Yes but house or flat rent is much more expensive in Toronto. You can find flat for two people in Zagreb for 300euros... Its big differences... Also car insurance is more expensive. Health care(primarily) is free in Croatia, including free dentist. Only utilities are cheaper in Canada, but since flat internet is more expensive there and the phone comes to the same. Problem je što u Hrvatskoj 90% ljudi ima plaću manju od 1000euros... Often with that salary they have to support unemployed family members and retirees who have small pensions ... When it all adds up and subtracts, it’s much better to work and live in Canada. Croatia is only good for those who can work online for a Canadian company or for Canadian retirees who come to live in Croatia in retirement.

@@matrix_x_ health insurance is not free at all. A very big part of our wages is subtracted for universal state healthcare and it covers only basic healthcare and for everything else you have to pay additional health insurance. But globally our healthcare sistem is much cheaper then in the rest of the world. Excellent doctors have much lower wages then their colleagues worldwide. The fact is that we spent on/in our healthcare more than we can afford it.

@@ivanaarambasic4369 I am talking about basic health care. Its free. Dentists are also free. Its should be same in all world. Obama try to do that for poor people in USA and almost everyone attacked him. In Europe, American capitalism is called "dirty capitalism." This name comes precisely because citizens are not provided with free access to schools, colleges, health, dentistry, sports ... For most citizens of the world, it is inconceivable that someone cannot be cured without money. It is against all morals. Such persons, who do not allow it, should not be called believers or moral persons.

@@matrix_x_ I explained it to you that it is not free because I got my paycheck every month reduced for 16.5% and it is not optional, it is obligated, went to the dentist or not. Btw. basic healthcare covers healing of only 5 front teeth.

@@ivanaarambasic4369 Its practically free in Croatia. Nobody pay basic helth insurance and care. Its comes from Tax what employers pay for workers... Unemployed people also do not pay doctors and dentists. They only pay a co-payment of $ 2 per examination if they do not have additional insurance that exempts co-payments, and costs about $ 15 per month. This is negligible. Just one visit to the dentist in Canada or Ireland costs about $ 120, and in our country it is free, ie it costs $ 2 participation. Personally, I don’t think the unemployed should pay even that $ 2.

Sa 3000-4000eura plaće ni ovdje ne bi bilo loše živjeti :)

Exactly.

But has probably less inflation, and you can work remotely. If you do work remotely, Slavonija region is far less expensive to live in than Zagreb or coastal area. Similar can be said for Canada. Toronto vs some small town somewhere, if you can work remotely, you can compensate a lot.

but that's why the service is quite cheaper check how many $ per hours the serviceman gets there

@@KrunoslavStifter Groceries cost basically the same in Zagreb as in the rest of the continental Croatia. They are a lot more expensive on the coast, and even more so on the islands, though, because they want to get as much money from tourism as possible (a bit of the higher cost on the islands is due to them being harder to reach physically, though).

@@withthelightsout8518I guess that is more or less true, and I suppose Zagreb is probably closer to Osijek, because of supermarkets, but you can find cheaper vegetables and fruits during season on "pijac" or what would be the English term.... farmer's market or something like that. I live here near Osijek so there is additional option of going across border to Hungary. Some things are lot cheaper and some are not, but since I have about the same amount of driving time to Osijek than to nearest town across the Border its another option for buying cheaper groceries. Before Covid, going across the border to Serbia was also option, because groceries in supermarket were cheaper, and all the locals near border went there. Those where the main customers of those supermarkets near border. Not sure how many such options exist the more one west goes, but at since Eastern part of Croatia was neglected for so long by the goverment, people had to find ways to compensate. If one works online , you can make decent money and still have lower expenses for food and shelter. Also gas in Hungary is cheaper so going there once a week or month, still pays off. Get a full tank of gas, plus trip for less money than filling it up locally.

won't agrre on that, 8000 kn/month is still not good enough. If you want to buy a new car it costs around 120 000 kn. You want renovate house? 150-200k depending on house size, maybe even more. You want to buy house or apartment? 300 000 or more kunas. good luck paying all that in your lifetime with just 8000 kn/month.

state employees pay the same taxes as everybody else

@@domagojbatinic1526 no you dont, you dont earn, you get paid from our money, no private sector no money. every year less and less, at the end you can eat paperwork

It is impossible to do economic reform in Croatia, all this is carefully designed so that those in power have more for themselves with the reform they would only harm themselves and would have less money for themselves, Croatia is a very corrupt country unfortunately!

THE PPROBLEM in Croatia is corruption and nepotism on all levels, and such a big money and power cravings can't be fed without 25%VAT. And that tax is only a part of the all taxing picture.

@@ivanaarambasic4369 and that problem starting to become problem of middle aged people and boomers. Next generatons are not born regarding economical and health situation, and those who were born are left country with families and children

Average is realistically 5000kn

Thanks Barbara! ❤️

I would also recommend Čakovec, Varaždin, Koprivnica and Osijek when it comes to continental cities. Varaždin and Čakovec are located in the northern Croatia while Osijek is eastern. Austro-hungarian arhitecture of continental cities is a real gem.

I hope you get to make your dream come true ❤️

I don't want to deflate your bubble but many parts of Croatia getting empty because young people moving to Germany, Ireland in search for better life. But if you are financially secure you can get everything.

we've been working on our dream for a long time. and we are aware that you can't just emigrate. you have to do a lot for it if you don't have a family there. but what is life without dreams and goals? From nothing, comes nothing. we know that it will certainly be a few years before we can take this step, but we are sure that we will take it.

Where are you from? Anyhow, best luck to you and your family :)

If you have foreign source of income then you could live well in Croatia, if you plan on Croatia's economy to support you (to get a job here in a private company), I would advise firmly against such decision, many younger and middle aged people are planning a way out of here and into the western Europe, and they're doing it for very good reasons, salaries and standard of living for average people here is low

Hahaha definitely!!!

Croatia isn't just Zagreb. You have no idea how poor is rest of country. Sea is excloded from this, they have tourism so they live well.

@@lordred7462 Nemoj pretjerivati. Da, siromašni smo u usporedbi s zapadnom i sjevernom europom, ali u usporedbi s većinom zemalja južne i istočne europe, imamo solidan standard. Da ne nabrajam većinu azije, afrike, južne i centralne amerike itd.

@@Imperiusism Prijatelju...posjeti Slavoniju,Baranju,Baniju,Kordun,Liku...Zaista je mizerno tamo.

Very welcome! :)

I'm really pi..ed off by many of comments here. First, Canada is considered to be among top 10 richest countries in the world. SO WHAT, do anyone think that high amount of money itself is enough to secure hapiness??? Well, someone from Tibet who is living normal life is probably more, much more satisfied and happy (with his/her less than 100 US$ salary) than average Canadian having 3000+US$, as he is calculating how to buy new iPhone (although is not necessarily needed), new car (although is not necessarily needed) and so on........, get a better job, more money, etc. World is spinning around spending, because it is explained to many ignorants (and I was among them some time ago), that we all need all what is presented to us (for our happiness) in magazines, TV, etc.well IT IS NOT. So back to Canada (and it is very good example of arrogant politics), Montreal is my favourite Canadian city, as there is a still big influence of Europe tradition there (it is far away from real excellent laid-back Croatian life, but there are caffes around and that 's good) in contrast to Toronto or Vancouver. So english speaking part is trying to 'conquer' french part (due to that Quebec still have very strong independent activities) like they did that to indigenous people (original owners of Canada) few centuries ago. Major part of Canadians or Americans still don't have real (like Croatians) sense of belonging, they easily moved from one side to other or even from one country to other, without much hesitation. In Croatia and other 'traditional' countries sense of belonging is very high, without flag in front yard. To be traditional is not necessarily good for economics, but is for sure good for good traditional life. And how Canada, USA, England, Spain or France and few others become rich? Answer is explanation to most comments here. Have a nice and safe life, all the best from Croatia.

@@igorsinovcic2769 slažem se s tobom. Je si li ikad živio u Kanadu ?

@@nemanacemu2024 Nisam, ali sam bio nekoliko puta (kraće ili duže ) na poslovnom putu u različitim gradovima. LP

Put this way and Canada is much better.

@@TechBizShopp Ofc...

Excellent comment puts purchasing power into perspective (and thank you for doing the math:)

🥰 glad you're finding them helpful!

Yes but she said one way ticket across town. so for zagreb it would be 20kn and for Toronto 16kn. again more expensive here

I feel equally enslaved in Varaždin, a provincial town in north, in which prices of apartments (let alone houses) have grown to such level that it is needed to get a life long bank loan just to pay off an average 2-room apartment, like there arr no other bills and costs to pay, I unfortunately lived my entire life here working in private companies since 2009 and it is by no means blessing and a pleasure

@@ivan00001983 Preseli se gdje je bolje, nije Varazdin jedino mjesto u HR. A ako zivis i radis jednim obicnim smrtnickim zivotom 9-5, ni u Kanadi a ni u ostalim zemljama na planeti ti nece biti puno bolje. Mozda ces imati 20 kvadrata veci stan i par godina noviji auto, ali to je to, ostalo sve isto, ili mozda cak i gore, ovisi gdje si. Pricam iz iskustva. Ako si tu odrastao poznavajuci grad, regiju, sistem zivota i ljude, mislis da ce ti bolje biti u Kanadi gdje ti sistem zivota nije nimalo poznat i nemas pomoci od bas nikoga? O zakonima i da ne pricam. Sve dok ne shvatis da je rezim 9-5 svugdje isti, selidbom na isti neces nista promjeniti. Jedini nacin bi bio da zaradjujes u jednom trzistu, a trosis u domacem kao sto mnogi i rade, ali i to je upitna kvaliteta zivota. Shvatio sam ovih zadnjih godina da ljudima kao mi nije potrebno fizicko pomjeranje, vec promjena razmisljanja za izlazak iz 9-5 sistema da bi rijesili probleme. Ako imas 5-10 godina da gubis na immigraciju, prilagodjavanje i ucenje nove sredine, da ti bude 20-30% bolje, zelim ti svu srecu! Pozdrav iz Sl. Broda

Dario as a Croat born in Canada, I couldn't agree more with you. You are correct sir!

Yes, 4 kn lasts for 30min ride. Usually it is enough to reach from New Zagreb to center, but not in the rush hour.

and in croatia there is property taxes, only differently called "utility fee / komunalna naknada" the same thing, another name

@@tihomirrasperic no , the utility fee is what I mentioned “ take away “ for garage , recycling and bio waste

@@cancroat-darylporter4881 the "utility fee/ komunalna naknada" is not garbage collection, it is the tax you pay to the municipality / općini garbage collection is "utilities / komunalije", a very similar name, but a completely different thing

I live in Canada and have been in Croatia many times. The problem in Croatia is that most of the country is the working poor. They have to work themselves to death to go ahead. My cousin in Zagreb has the same job as I have in Calgary. My net pay is 7 times higher for the same job. You cannot really compare the two countries easily as Croatia can fit into Nova Scotia by land size. The cost of services in a massive land area country is many times more. Both countries have pros and cons. Unfortunately, I see many Croats digging through garbage bins in the big cities of ZG and ST. Capitalism has a cost in both nations. Both have “no go” areas as I have experienced in ZG. Toronto is the most expensive city in Canada. Even Canadians cannot afford TO. Enjoy life in both countries. Pay and live. Cuvaj se.

@@michaelpanic281 Please tell me where are NO GO ares in Croatia. This is LIE and you want to equalise insecurity, which is not COMPARABLE, and in USA is even worse. About salary, let say you are honest and don't lie, so what, why don't you live in USA as salary there is at least 20-30% better than in Canada. Money is not giving happy life, but you know that, you just want to have decent excuse why you have chosen (are living in) Canada. I was travelling throughout Mexico, Canada and USA, quite extensively (due to work) and believe or not MEXICO is far, far, far better (best) for living than USA or Canada, but due to cartel problems it is not safe, and in Mexico even the poorest are smiling with full heart, in USA and Canada even richest are smiling with calculator in brain and poor don't smile at all. When you cross from Mexico to Texas it is shockingly sad (off course not all people in USA or Canada like that, but it is my perception). Money is not making you happy in long run, everyone knows that. There are many poor people in Croatia, but most of those so called poor have their own apartment, and using Canada rules they will not be considered poor at all, but here most of them are getting state help without obligation, first to sell own apartment and then to ask for help. Off course there are some really poor with nothing, but in this case there are shelters, very few (in comparison to 'rich' Toronto) are lying around and begging for something. If you have normal living standards in Croatia and normal living standards in Canada, Croatia is by far better please for leaving and raising kids and enjoying life. Stay safe in Canada, I'm very safe in Croatia. As I said many years ago, I'm drinking wine, because I enjoy it, in west most are drinking because they are sad, looking for way out (specially on Fridays and Saturdays). Lijep pozdrav i želim puno zdravlja i sriće Vama i obitelji.

Actually there are no-go areas in Croatia, but these are such slums that they are not even on a average person's "roadmap", I am talking about certain Roma people's villages, like those in northern part of the country, in Međimurje, e.g.: Piškorovec, Držimurec, part of Pribislavec... You cannot go in there unless accompanied by a local who can guarantee you safety...

The Queen of England probably knows these answers. Since Canada is owned by the Queen. As well as the US, New Zealand, UK and Australia.

@@ToMbA_La_BoMbA The US is actually not owned by the Queen of England lol we have nothing to do with England anymore

canada has massive resources per capita, oil, ores, wood, massive lands, croatia in comparison only has tourism with the beautiful coast and climate, but nothing else, so its easy for canada to be rich

@@MostIntelligentMan That's true, as long as we recognize that all that land was stolen from natives. Canada also has a very favourable geo-political situation by comparison. But let's not forget that Croatia could have been much richer today if the pre-existing industry wasn't privatised and liquidated during the early 90's in order to make a select few rich. To this day we're still reeling from that blow and rampant corruption.

@@NotAyFox privatization is the only way that works, it only fails if its done like in russia where private company becomes full monopoly, croatia has no industry and will never have, because all industry is in china as rest of world cant compete with prices, if croatia wanted to be rich only way is trough high tech development, which not gonna happen as weather is to good to sit on computer all day, thats why north countries will stay the richest forever, but croatia has better life thanks to the weather

That's everywhere due to inflation....can't have free money floating around and no value....you print more, you pay more.

Oh my goodness, that's super expensive!! Thanks for sharing! Crazy how bread is so expensive!

Which part of Australia are you in? Im in Brisbane and a loaf of bread is $1.50? Chicken is $9.99 a kg. I find Australia extremely cheap to live, milk is $2 a litre and you can buy a house on 600sq for $350k. Fuel is around $1.50 ltr give or take as it fluctuates either side.

@@gerafam I'm in South Australia.. Adelaide, from what I've heard we are more expensive here,more taxing & the prices I refer to are in Coles,there may be some plain brand loaves of bread that are cheaper but I'm referring to the most popular brands they are all in that price range. It's crazy ..

@@crankiemanx8423 that sounds outrageous to me, I've never heard of that. Even a nice loaf of bread here would only be $3.99 🤷‍♀️ not sure how anyone survives paying $8 a loaf of bread 🤕

If you can afford a home near Ban Jelačić Square, your children will have access to everything they need without a car.

@Mia Krunic thank you so much for commenting and for giving great things to be mindful of. We can't wait!!!

Croatia is in general very family friendly. Do you prefer coast or inland? I would advise against Zagreb, the city is financially in the red and too crowded for my taste. If it's just living, than Samobor, Krapina or Varaždin would be better. If you prefer the coast, Crikvenica or Novi Vinodolski is a good choice (I avoided larger towns because they're more tourist destinations and can get expensive).

@@Cyricist001 Thank you for your thoughts and tips! We will have a look into all of the places you have mentioned. Would love to be not more than 2 hours from the coast (max) as close as possible with it still being family friendly, affordable and plenty of things to do and work opportunities! Close ish to an air port would be great too as we will travel to surrounding countries too.

@@gerafam Max 2h from the sea, access to an airport, family friendly, affordable and with things to do. Hmm, that would favor more the coastline than the interior. My suggestion would be to focus around the Krk-Rijeka airport then. That would be towns like Novi Vinodolski, Crikvenica, Lokve, Fužine. The other option is around the Pula airport, like the town of Fažana, though it's further away from the rest of Croatia than around Krk-Rijeka airport.

Yeah 1300 seemed WAY too high.

@@Antonio_Serdar it's probably higher if heated by heating plant (toplana), i heat on earth gas and have my own heater boiler (zemni plin, etažno grijanje)

Its not too expensive, but salary are low, and we have lots of long time unemployed people...

Stisnes 3 tockice gore u desnom uglu videa I nađes prijevod koji zelis.

Hrvatski

Yes 5000-6500kn take home

Average salary in Croatia is 930 eur.

Agree, this is just cost of living which doesn’t mean anything cuz we don’t know average salary in each country.

Salary is mentioned closer to the end.

@@RoyalCroatianTours i still don’t know how much is it.

@@RoyalCroatianTours Unfortunatly not close to reality.. majority of Croatian citizents have an average of 3 500/4 200 kn salary. In Zagreb a little bit more. It would be best to earn in Canada and live in Croatia 🤣

Its all about purchasing power (how much can you get for your salary in your home country) A Canadian earning a Canadian salary living in Canada has a higher level of purchasing power than a Croatian living in Croatia and earning a Croatian salary. On the other hand a Canadian with a Canadian salary (or pension) living in Croatia has a very good level of purchasing power because they are essentially using Canadian dollars (converted) to buy goods and services in Croatia……

Ovo je jedna od boljih usporedbi, jedan lijepo ukraseni oslikani prazni tanjur...

Don't worry about that, Zagreb is full of green where ever you go and every block basically has it's park for children ( swings, glades, wooden houses ect.) and a lot of space for riding bikes and skates, especially in New Zagreb. My kids absolutely adores park by the Bundek lake in New Zagreb. Welcome!

@@ivanaarambasic4369 Thank you, Ivana!

Aim for Jarun, Cvjetno naselje and Središće. These three neighbourhoods are my top choices now that I have kids. After those I would look into anything in Novi Zagreb, these are planned neighbourhoods with plenty of parks and other amenities that a young family might need. And the prices are more affordable than across the river. Avoid living downtown, it's old, run down and cramped.

Go near Jarun lake, it's got a huge track around ot to run or skate or drive a bike on. It's close to everything, schools, kindergartens, trams, buses, parks, shopping centers and everything.

Will you post more stuff about masons on your channel?

And electronicks

Gas is even cheaper in the States than in Canada!

@@RoyalCroatianTours I guess thats because they are having lot of oil, here in Croatia we have almost no oil in nature

Thats because of the taxes, more than half of the price of gas goes to the state.

@@sego6277 we don't have as much gas and oil as Canada, but we have i think 80% gas from our own fields and about 20% petrol, so its not true that we have almost none

Again with this comment. It is the exact same thing everywhere. The average Canadian salary is most likely not 23 000 kn, these kind of statistics lie, but they are the only thing you can use in these kind of comparisons. She also specifically said that it was in Zagreb. Based on my experience the average salary in Zagreb is not far off from that, although a little bit lower.

@@Antonio_Serdar Well, it does get complicated. The title is COST OF LIVING IN CROATIA vs. CANADA. I agree with you that this is probably the only way to do the comparison. What would happen if we were to leave Zagreb out, and try to arrive at average salary? Better yet lets leave out high paying executives from the statistics. If you include them you get a wrong picture. Most of domestic and branches of foreign companies are located in Zagreb and they have executives with high salaries. I do understand what "average" means, but I can not agree that average salary in Croatia is 8000+kn.

@@Antonio_Serdar a zaboravljas da su u nas auta bogatstvo za kupit a Antonio? I to prosjecne skovace, stare cak. Sta, zaboravljas i gorivo da je skoro duplo jeftinije u Kanadi, a manje vise svi vozamo aute. A zaboravljas mi Antonio i da je tehnika elektronika, skuplja masu u nas nego u njih. Ali je hrana 50-100 posto! skuplja u nas nego u njih?! Zanimljivo kako je rekla autorica videa....cijena jaja je u biti ista ali razlika je samo, pazi samo..sta eto u Kanadi dobijes pakiranje od 12 jaja a u HR 10. I to je isto po njoj? Lol. Btw...pola namirnica nije nabrojila, vec samo one neke koje joj paraju oci, eto kruh i jabuka duplo skuplji, vauuu, horror. Al se zato nije puno odnosno ni sekund zadrzala da komentira bolesnu razliku izmedju placa u Kanadi Toronto i Hrvatska Zagreb... a to je dobrih 2.5-3 puta veca placa. LoL. Ekspresno je nastavila na drugu temu, statistiku. Kad upalis YT i vidis thumbnail ovog videa ono dobijes dojam vauuu HR je raj, cijene su tooop, kakva Kanada itd. Klasicna fail spika iz ne znam kojih razloga al dobro.

most of foreigners live in Zagreb's downtown, have academic degree and work well paid jobs probably for outsides company's or have their own. So for them Croaita is heaven on earth. They goes to luxury resorts at sea during summer and to skiing during winter and have good live here. But they know nothing about general life in Croatia, to them Croatia is Zagreb and seaside.

@@lordred7462 Agree 100%

savings in Croatia lol.

Dođi u Nizozemsku ;D. Ja i brat smo u istoj situaciji bili, sad za 2 godine bez problema kuća. I to obični posao, znači ništa specijalno. Znači svaki mjesec mogu uštedit 1000 do 1200 eura :D nakon svih troškova. Zvuči nerealno.

@@HladniSjeverniVjetar vjerujem, ljudi kod nas moraju u dozivotno duznicko ropstvo za stambeni kredit - a masa ih ni nema uvjete za st.kredit zbog preniske place, vjerujem da se vani to moze bolje rijesiti ili bar ranije otplatiti

Didn't know that. Thanks for explaination

@@RoyalCroatianTours Ogranicenje brzine u drugim regijama rade razliku...naprimjer, ako u americi imaju puno manju dopustenu brzinu sto je istina, a u europi jedan Autobahn koji ponegdje nema limita brzine, onda nema potrebe da im sarafi ili sigurnosni remen ima istu kvalitetu ili velicinu kocnica itd...Zbog drugacijih pravila su velike razlike u kvaliteti samog vozila, a u Europi su u puno segmenata kvalitetnija i zato skuplja ( jedan od razloga) isto tako americki auto treba ispuniti europske standarde koji nakraju dizu cijenu....

@@PedjoGT Mislim kako to nije glavni razlog, a i nije istina da su automobili mnogo različiti. Porezi i trošarine u SADu su mnogo manje nego u Europi, a pogotovo u Hrvatskoj. Ista stvar je i s gorivom. U Hrvatsko je gorivo skupo jer 90% cijene nije samo gorivo, već trošarine i drugi porezi..

@@matrix_x_ Bas mi je jedan projatelj bio na specijalizaciji koja je usko vezana uz automobile i sokirao sam se koliko ima razlika i zbog cega su sve razlike u cijeni...znaci ni sarafi nisu isti

​@@PedjoGT Kad bi imao posao i stan u Kanadi i 4000dolara plaću ne bi mi to smetalo :)

Canadians (and Americans) usually talk about their salaries expressed in gross amounts (before taxes are taken out), unlike Croatians who mostly refer to their earnings as net earnings (after taxes).

High classes, yes.

90% ljudi ima ispod 1000eura. Mnogi su na minimalcu koji je ispod 4000kn. Prosječne mirovine još su manje. Postoji velik broj dugotrajno nezaposlenih. Premijer se hvali smanjenjem nezaposlenosti, ali to je samo varka jer je od ulaska u EU Hrvatsku napustilo skoro 500000 ljudi, mahom nezaposlenih. Neka usporedi broj zaposlenih u RH 1990. i 2021. pa će dobiti mnogo realniju brojku.

Da, o čemu ova onda brlja?! Ispada da živimo sa 8500 kna mjesečno.. Ne znaš bili plaka ili se smija

@@ivana4113 Pa ona je dobro rekla, ali to je neprecizna statistika. Plaće u Zagrebu možda i idu oko 8000kn, ali taj prosjek dižu plaće političara i menadžera koje idu i po 15-25 000 kuna. Neka ode u Konzum i pita blagajnicu ili skladištara kolika mu je plaća. Bilo kako bilo, ja bih bio zadovoljan i kad bi svi u Hrvatskoj imali 6000kn plaću, ali kad ne bi bilo nezaposlenih ljudi.

@@matrix_x_ what u doing in Croatia?

Takva vrsta jaja. Imaš i ljubičasta jaja.

@Alfonso Bossi - Chicken breeds determine the color of their eggs. That's all.

8200 is official data. But it is unrealistic because the most wealthy people with the highest wages in Croatia lives in Zagreb. So they raise the median.

Yes but she lives in Zagreb, so she knows the prices