PRetty much this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l8-mesRjpqm3c40.html

The Germans knew what a missile was, they would probably figure it out pretty quick.

"Guided artillery" would probably be the best explanation in 1940 that they could conceptualize.

​@@theiceman447 But not in Dunkirk Time, V1 and V2 not available at that time

@@theiceman447 The point is not just knowing what a missile is and what it can do, but if there are any countermeasures against them. Modern missiles are obviously vastly superior to the technology of the time, there would have been no way the Germans could deal with missiles that had far superior speed and guidance systems. If modern munitions time travelled to World War II and we built so much of them and used them, there would have been no way the Germans wouldn’t have sued for peace in a matter of days, if not hours.

@@deterdettol Problem would be the Amount available. I'm reading enough Alternative History Stories like the Axis of Time Series from John Birmingham and the Problems begin when the Stockpiles run out. Modern Weapons are not easy to manifacture if you have to invent the Technology. The Tools are not there. If you out of modern Tech you must use old Tech adapt to the new.

All resources pivot to Germany after that

I suspect the judicious use of what would be "shock and awe extreme" against the Germans around Dunkirk would put an end to the engagement since German commanders were smart guys and they'd have retreated fast once they understood the situation.

​@@marcppparis hello, im god.. if i would return with it, i would won entire ww2 and cold war

aka the drone problem.

How would you deal with the battle of Britain? Depending on the date, the Germans would have a lot of materiel that could still cause civilian casualties

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Then he gets shot by an 88 shortly after and is forced to ditch the plane later because he forgot about the fuel leak

It appears I am the laughing stock of the internet.

@@grimreapers The internet doesn't forget. You inadvertently put pressure on yourself by saying that xd

I've been watching lots of DCS videos lately (need to get a HOTAS setup so I can enjoy it myself). The one question I've always had for these guys doing dogfights is, how often do they have to reshoot a sequence because they collided on the merge?

>Ignoring the nuclear weapons of course I don't think we'd have to, since no MAD

@@raggum1052The US would never have used nuclear weapons during WWII on a enemy city… oh wait.

US CVNs don't carry nukes. The French one does though.

​@Dawnbandit1 never in their history? They were neither confirmed or denied to have carried nukes but President Clinton removed them all (if they were ever there).

​@@Dawnbandit1quick fix for that 👹😈

"Cluster bombs are evil!" . So is war.

​@@kevincaruthers5412true! It's bad for the climate apparently! 😅

@@multitimmytiger2 It's balanced out by the population reduction. War is good at reducing population. ;)

This would totally be a mission for cluster bombs

@@multitimmytiger2Whoah I’m gonna need a fact check on this 🤔🤔

In 1944, Germany spent 75% of their GDP on military, not counting the fact that nearly 1/4 of their production came from slave labor. In comparison, the US spent 43% of their GDP on the war. If that was today, it would be equivalent to Germany and the US spending 3.06TN and 10.94TN USD per year on military, respectively. In comparison, WORLDWIDE military spending in 2023 was 2.4TN USD, with the US making up 916BN of that. WWII war economy was nuts. Imagine the US spending 11x what they're spending on military today.

Good thing you included the 72p.

@@paulvsmith I mean that would've been a deal breaker for me, I draw the line at 1,846,181,472.71 Euros.

Also probably knowlige The DDGs and KEs could be used for ASW and hunt submarines CVN would probably be used for the N part to help the Manhatten project

Yep. B61's Time for Regime Change. Go ahead and wrap up WW2 and Cold War while you're at it.

Per US doctrine and SALT II, surface ships do not carry nuclear armaments. The naval nukes are handled by the boomers.

Reallt that thing happened during a very sort period of time between 1945 and about 10 years later. What happened since is mostly smarter tech.

@@matsv201 that's part of why the hypersonic thing talked about today is considered such a big deal

@@Chiberia Hypersonic tech has been around for a long time. Lockheed has had plans for them for decades. Problem is that after mach4/5 you get plasma forming around the missile making it impossible to guide it. It has to slow down below that speed in order to actually hit anything so it won't be traveling mach 10 for it's final approach to a target. Plus if something is going mach 10 it can't maneuver at all, it'll be going in pretty much a straight line. It's a pretty simple math problem to take it out with a missile defense system. Hell in the 80's the US shot down a satellite with an F-15 and a satellite is going a hell of a lot faster than mach 10. My guess is that's the reason the US decided to prioritize development of stealth missiles ahead of hypersonics. Hypersonics are really just a buzz word for media.

@@Chiberia i would say.. its really just a point in it if its air oxidized.

@@Chiberia not really, hypersonics are cool, but definately not the complete gamechanger of even early missile tech. Russia has been tossing what few they have out in vollies and most are being intercepted by even s-300s and the patriots which both are like 40 years old at this point. vs, being a ship bristling with AA guns, as airplanes have been a big deal for a while now. then, out of nowhere, a "plane" going 800mph just slams into you and explodes, AA fires for the couple of seconds they can see the tiny object on the horizion, but radar cant track it, so its just visual fire. and the turret rotation is far less than the speed of the missiles. hundreds of shots ring out in the few seconds they can fire. but every one misses. Today, even incredibly fast missiles can be spotted and tracked far before the effective range of AA systems. If the crew is good, then they can most likely still intersecpt the missile. Even if the AA missile is vastly slower than the hypersonic. hypersonics are great for a country like the US where all the fighting since ww2 has been against out of date soviet hand-me-downs, but in a near peer conflict, volume of missiles will always outtrump superweapons. A cluster missile firing like 8 warheads for the same cost as 1 stupid fast missile will possibly oversaturate air defense way easier

We used them with F/A-18's as well from the same carrier CVN-71 I was on.

The Germans hadn’t even invented radar yet in 1940

That would be impressive given that V1 wasn't deployed until 4 years after Dunkirk, the Germans hadn't even faced the Katyusha yet much less Tomahawk and Hornets

V1 wasn't a thing back then nor was it ever use against armies

He isn’t saying this is the smartest usage of a modern carrier group in WW2 He’s answering the question “How would a carrier group fare in Dunkirk?”

park an AWACS and a couple of superhornets at like 45,000ft. No german plane could catch them at that altitude, so they'd be able to operate with impunity lasing and deleting targets in a rolling barrage from Belgium to Berlin. You could also just run the carrier group at like 35kts sustained from the channel to Jutland just to fuck with the pursuing kreigsmarine destroyers. Imagine serving on the fastest ship in the kreigsmarine only to watch as a ship 4 times the size of the Bismarck does laps around you at like 45kts.

They would fall into the sea off the end of the carrier and the mission would therefore be quite short. If you had to fly them across the channel carrying a lot of stores, they'd be quite vulnerable to interceptions from 109s, they are really only 250 knot aircraft at low level when carrying a lot of weaponry

Probably not too hot, it's slow enough that BF109s and FW190s would be able to catch it without any of the dogfighting agility. If its speed is comparable to prop planes then that means that German AA firing solutions could lock onto it which they most likely couldn't do with supersonic fighters. Obviously, it's all pretend but A10 only thrives in undisputed airspace and would honestly probably suffer. Though against any German tank model, the gun would shred, especially against early war tanks. Compared to nowadays where its gun is worthless against tanks.

They would fly from the British Isles and maybe refueled on route.

"educational"

They don't operate off carriers

These guys cannot fly a 15-E worth a tinker's damn.

A Final Countdown campaign would be SOOOOOO AWESOME!!! I’d watch that every dang day.

@@jamespaladino2784 I was just thinking about this! Persistent assets, cause as much damage as possible with those limited assets, decide what missions would be the most influential to the war, etc. I'd love to watch that.

Especially against to 88mms.

Think of him saying f#ckers, it wasn't about manufacturers...

He is saying Focke wulf. That’s how you’re supposed to pronounce it in English

If you gotta be friendly-fired, SM-6 is a good way to do it.

They wouldn't need to take out everything. Just establish air superiority and hit command and control, logistics and transportation centers. If they coordinated this with the British and French troops, the Germans wouldn't be able to put up much of a fight.

Tomahawks use INS and terrain mapping for guidance as well. Unfortunately DSMAC (terrain mapping) uses data loaded onto the missile before flight. This data comes from recon satellites, and is processed prior to loading on the missile, so it wouldn't work either.

Well maybe the satellite was brought back with the USS Gerald R Ford in the time machine

I was thinking about this too. You expect to have so much information. Take a trip in time, now you are so limited.

They would do nothing since there would be no GPS

​@@thomasesrthis is all under the assumption GPS was functioning. None of the carriers stuff would work without GPS. The planes would fly, but anything that isn't unguided wouldn't.

Unbobtainium 🤣🤣 Imagine if they had spongebobtainum, or unobtainium!

@@helmetfire5973 You gotta set Spongebobtanium to W for Wumbo, or else it doesn't work

Even germans should never trust germans.

And the allies would not be gaining the same tech. Not to forget they all know what Hitler was doing and did and most likely those who came back in time would tell the allies everything if not show them what Hitler did by any media or history book on the ship The first thing I think would happen is several cruise missiles would be visiting key targets in Germany in research, development, military leadership and so on. The Allies would adopt to and history already shows Germany key weaknesses in recourses. Oh and also your forgetting the Russians and well Allies gaining the knowledge of the atomic bomb. Along with nuclear reactors on those carriers.

bro the nazis couldt reverse engineer almost any of the tech on a carrier wtf are you talking about

@@AltF4OuttaHereyeh I’m not sure why this guy is smoking. The technical expertise to even know what the hell a microchip is when you see one, let alone actually managing to get your hands on one, is decades away. You’re asking a caveman to figure out how to replicate a shotgun

niether side could replicate the tech

I'd love to see that too but it would look like their D-day video. It is a good one. I recommend watching it highly.

*Barbarossa It was code-named after Frederick Barbarossa ("red beard").

@MaxIsStrange1 YEAH That's the name I was looking for. Thanks m8

@@jacobbeckley5292 No probs. I don’t like going “erm akychually…” but a surprising number of people just take what they read in comments sections for granted and go on to repeat the same thing elsewhere so I sometimes do correct stuff. What I mean to say is that I hope I didn’t come off as an a-hole 😅

@@MaxIsStrange1 You fine my deer boy

oof, that's a biggie!

Read the trilogy axis of time by John Birmingham. It describes the near future scenario almost exactly like this, but the initial emphasis on the Pacific theater

@@misterrpicc1887 thanks m8! I'l do that :)

The French fought? 😂

The French had soldiers?

@@Bob6800a The gemans were so scared of the french military they went around them instead of fighting them.

@@svensvensson2724 yeah I just thought they all got boarded up at the Maginot line

They were not included as the server would crash.

I'll only get access when we all get access.