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Many people are worried about the F-16MLU's ability to stack up against russian jets, but thats not the reason Ukraine wants them. NATO's arsenal has always consisted largely of air launched munitions for ground strikes, instead of ground launched. For every ground launched system like HIMARS, NATO countries will have 5 different ones from the air. Its a struggle but has been successful integrating some of those into Ukraines legacy aicraft (MiG29 with HARM, SU24 with STORMSHADOW). But giving Ukriane F16MLU's or obsolete Tornado's will give it a ready to use launching platform for practically every air to ground strike weapon in western inventories. From Storm Shadow, to Small-Diameter glide Bombs, to JDAM-ER, Paveways, JSOWs. But also HARM and MALDs.

Glad most of the guys are back. Watching the German Fly shenanigans is always entertaining. Ditching the plane rather than landing in Russia was hilarious.

I think the Russian Su 35s will carry not only the P 77 1 but also the p 37 which have a range of about 150 miles

Don’t the F16s have the data-link so that the forward aircraft can send the radar views to the rear planes?

Glad your covering the F-16 but I don't think either side will focus on dog fighting or targeting each others Jets. In fact I'm pretty sure Ukraine would try to avoid this.

F16 along with the possible weapons they can carry will be the upgrade. Targeting of HARM and other guided munitions. Coupled with longer range SAMs like SAMP/T will help. Also will be able to shoot down drones etc. I think air to air isn't going to be a thing. What the F16 and the ADM-160 MALD will do is create dilemmas for the russian AD.

Just goes to show that a modern F-16 with a good pilot is still one hell of a hot fighter. The prototype YF-16 first flew 49 years ago. Kudos to the original design team: Robert H. Widmer and his General Dynamics team of engineers.

On your airframe life and G limits, I actually had a chat with a crew chief of an F-15 ANG unit here on the American west coast and he said that these F-15C’s are beyond 10,000 hours now, and are prohibited from pulling more than 8G. He said last week one pilot pulled 9.4G and the jet had to go through a full inspection and was cleared a day before the air show.

Great video on differing plane capabilities, Cap - bonus points for Fly's great comedy throughout

Birderino was on form for this one!!! Incredible flying sir!! I've been out of town for the last couple of days with family up in the mountains, and we didn't have wifi so I couldn't watch the last few days, but watching this mission was a refreshing a part of coming home!! Great flying as always Grim Reapers!!!

What MLU-version is this? The danish F16’s are tape6.5, and have used aim9x and HMD for more than a decade, and aim120D since 2018. I’m afraid you got this dangerously wrong.

The range of the better Amraam made a huge difference. That said the range game will change again if you give the Flakers the R37m. You should put drop tanks on the F16s. You almost always see them flying with two, sometimes even 3 tanks.

As others have pointed out, neither side is really interested in a pitched high-altitude BVR fight right now, due to SAM saturation in the theatre. The Su-35s would be in a lot more trouble during this fight if Ukraines SAM net was giving them a headache. Would be interesting to see this fight redone entirely on the deck, with a flight ceiling enforced by Patriot and S-300. In theory, it could rob the Su-35 of it's range advantage.

Good to hear Fly back, along with Cap (obviously), Simba, Grumpnik, and Damp, he’s a favorite of mine!

Thanks for the interesting video, it really highlights how tech has changed over the decades and why even a small edge in tech can really matter.

The commentary for this one was freaking hilarious! Well done guys!!

Just an FYI the MLU F-16 also operates the AIM-9X. Example: Belgian Air Force on QRA

lol. The SU-57. It is so stealthy no one can even see it

Hi just recently found your amazing channel and subscribed , love the content and humans to :) your all so skilled in the sims ,thanks for the content love watching

I think seing how well the vipers could operate, when facing against modern russian air defences, would be interesting now

I love some of the comments. You gentlemen have NO idea how much fun the actual F-15E really is! I wish there was some way I could relate the experience to you. It's one helluva machine that can do everything it was designed to and do it very well!

These guys are the best! Serious intel on the specifications.

Radar. It all comes down to detection and identification ranges.

Will we see a video on the IRIS-T SLM vs Iskander/Kinzhal that would be intresting as the SLM has a much bigger range and with a much better Radar, than the IRIS-T SLS already shown here? Also its the variant UA operates so that makes it even more intresting.

The Dutch and Danish F-16 MLUs differ mainly in the radars, the Danish have APG-66(v)2a, the Dutch have AN/APG-68(v)9. Otherwise they are very similar. But we must not forget the fact, which cannot be selected in the simulation, that the MLUs were continuously modified by local Danish companies for the improvement of electronic warfare and modified by upgrade "Tape" packages. Dutch and Danish F-16s can also use the AIM-120C7. Ukraine will definitely not get 40-year-old technology. And the essential difference is that the existing Ukrainian MiG-29 and SU-27 are blind and cannot use fully-active guided missiles.

Love your videos

Was thinking that one way a Pilot might Augment Plane's Radar might be to use the (possibly) higher Range of his Smart Munitions... Dunno if possible, but worth a think✈🚀💥 Love watching y'all "play".. If I were younger and still had the dexterity in my hands I might consider this as my next Sim Game👍👈

Growling Sidewinder also does this kind of matchup pretty often. Another place to check it out. The pilot is important.

Quiet an unrealistic scenario. As you said, the F-16 will most likely be used for A2G and have situational data from both ground radar and AWACS. Maybe try a different scenario that involves storm shadow and MALDs. See if the Su-35 can keep up.

Do you remember at the start of the war how reluctant everyone was to make videos like this? I remember not even wanting to go on the sim because of how horrific it was. I just find it bizarre how desensitized we all are to it now and how normalized war has become.

We'll probably see a Ogden war situation were the danish and Norwegiab am models will be used for sead, anti shipping, and bombing runs. While the dutch c variants will act as air to air fighters.

Love flies never surrender. Straight into the sea 😂

0:14"Alright boys we did it!"

Love the Red October reference.

I do wish you guys would realease your version of the BLOCK 70 viper ;)

F-16 go brr.

I love these analyses of hypothetical real-world scenarios

Did you all model the DRFM jammers that the SU35 might use against aim120s?

Lol I have a video going live in 30 minutes of the F16C vs SU27 in a BVR. I guess we had similar ideas today

Request for future scenario: Ukraine F-16 SEAD mission against Russian ground air defense.

Hello! From Ukraine, with love ^) I also playing in DCS and my favorite aircraft is F-16. I hoping we will see this plane in ukranian sky vey soon. For us need 48 airplane as F-16 and ofcourse many maverick and GBU ^) Thank you for supporting us. Thank you for Patriot and other items %) Glory to EU!!! Glory to USA!

you could use r37m and r77m combos mate

How do the rockets maneuver? Do they have gimballing engines or are they rotating the grid fins (not simulated in DCS)?

Can someone answer this: Why do these F-16's have non-symmetrical load outs?

It would be really cool if someone else could record their POV and maybe put it on the second channel or something. For example, I wonder what this looked like from Birds POV.

would love any video of a modern chinese or russian air to air missile working. i will wait otherwise, great video

The F-15Es out of Okinawa have anti shipping missile load outs. They can load 5 JASM/LRASMs and 4 AIM 120s.

@32:00 I think that you all were intending to discuss the MiG-25, not the SU-25, big difference in planes.

Nice

Doesn’t feel right to be this early😅

What about datalink with an AWACS on the f-16 side?

How far back from the frontlines are the Russian CAP flights? Currently during this war

Fly, Cap , Matrix, Violet amongst my best Grim reaper's

I always thought this, but if you look at the SU27-25 etc....They have an F-16 front and a F-15 wings and back basically

Was told that the F-16s can fly using hydrogen fuel which produces little heat signature. If true this is very interesting

Interesting thing about the MiG 25, only Russian jet to ever score a kill on an American 4th gen fighter

I doubt these A models are upgraded to software tape M6.5 as a lot of real-world AM/BM are. These are basically the 1989 version of the F-16 MLU.

I didnt know Tommy Chong was into DCS.

Hey Cap. As a suggestion, even if the Europeans offer F-16 Block 70s, I would re-do this scenario but with the Russians firing the Vympel R-37 from >150km away. So, you're going to have the F-16s going defensive 50% earlier after which the Su-35s will be able to release their R-77-1s - which can be launched from >110km. The Ukrainian F-16s won't stand a chance because you just know that the American aircraft aren't advanced enough - and far fewer in numbers. It's going to be a "Bakhmut in the air".

I really don't think that the Russians have that many Advanced Adders for there Su-35. OH love to see a single Raptor agents a wing of russian bombers

Imaging without any f-16s been arived Ukrainians still deter russian occupants with mig-29 / su-27. Good confirmation that it's not the plane, it's the pilot.

0:41 did anyone also think the f16 and flanker have similar shapes from the top? just at half the size

How accurate is the assumption that the Russian Su-35s are well maintained with everything working properly? I wonder about that.

Good technology demonstration

The ecm pod should have made more of a difference plus chaff.

don't the interceptor rockets have a limited apogee and once come down can't go up again? I mean can't one just pitch their plane down low for a bit then straight up fly vertical for and have the rocket fall beneath them as the rocket fails fail to regain the now higher needed altitude of the plane after a certain point ?

So is survival now more about the radar and the missile and less about the aircraft and pilot?

I love your sense of humour guys! But all good and neutral analysis of probable outcomes. Let hope they don't reach this level and find peace before all these possible scenarios happen.

Does anyone know if any of the European countries with F16s use Meteor missles etc.?

Isn't Russia's Air to Air Squadrons comprise of like 15% SU-35s, 15% MIG-31s. 15% SU-27s old variants, 20% SU-30s variants and the rest 35% MIG-29s, which they don't seem to use anymore, but still in inventory. Most of the time, wouldn't Ukrainian Aircraft encounter legacy SU-27s, SU-30 etc with old legacy R-27R/T, with the odd but rare SU-35s and MIG-31s long range interceptors? From footage, OSINT sources the majority of SU-27s are still using legacy missiles, with the newer SM variants having only 2 R-77s mounted from pictures.

Since theres so much sams in ukraine, both sides are flying close to the ground so the missiles wont have that much range anyway and dogfights are likely so the A variant might be a good plane for the job. Also, F16As are the easiest to bargain for since America doesn't have much use for them anymore, might as well let the ukrainians use em.

Awacs? Surely they could help level the playing field for those legacy F16s.

33:30 the real question is, does it have the anti-sattelite missile it once used?

Top video 👍👍👍👍👍

Any chance ch plans on modeling the Sam-T?

The F-16A reminds me of when Britain gave USSR their old Spitfires in WW2

i doubt Ukraine will Use their new F-16's mainly as a dogfighter, i mean i think they will get into a few of them but not all that often, also these are bots so it is not entirely accurate (but i know the A-MLU models are not able to be controlled by humans in DCS, also until anti air systems are taken out they will likely fly low for the time being

One interesting thing to note. Last year the Ukrainians managed to shoot down a Su-35 in Ukrainian territory. That wreckage got picked up and sold off to the US Military. Word is the radar in that Su-35 wreckage was relatively intact. If the F-16's being given to Ukraine have jammers on board they'll probably have been given a software update to help with those Russian Radars.

Very interesting video. Obviously the tech difference is vast, but I think the one guy definitely showed that an excellent pilot can do well against many bad pilots. Of course had the Russians played it smart and just kept the Ukrainians outside their range it would have been a complete and quite perfect massacre.

Is there a version of this with Gripens?

where did you find the su-35 mod at?

Match idea. Block 70 F-16s vs. SU-57s.

Can we get some S350 in the Russia vs Ukraine scenarios?

Just "proves" the older F16's are NOT the answer. Thanks GR!

Why not? Mig 17s shot down an 8 F4 Phantoms during the Vietnam war. It should also be noted that a Mig 17 shot down an F8 Crusader, the plane everyone calls "The last gunfighter," but _the F8 only used guns for two of all of its kills_ , with all of the rest being from the primary weapon, the AIM 9D sidewinder. So much for being the last gunfighter. It was never designed to be a "Gunfighter" it was always intended that it would be a missile fighter, and the war record shows that this is exactly what it was. The last US Gun kill was in the 1990s when an A10 shot down an Iraqi helicopter.

Can we do a 2022 AFU versus 2024 AFU? As in pitting all the tech they started with in February 2022 against what they will have beginning with next year? It'd be cool to see 80s Mig-29s in an S300 SAM net fighting F16As in a Patriot/NASAMS/IRIST net. '22 AFU could use their small collection of ballistic missiles to conduct SEAD, compared against HARMs with a smaller protective SAM net. There's probably a way to get Storm Shadow and western armor in the scenario if you wanted. And there was enough captured Russian equipment and Ukrainian equipment losses in 2022 to tweak the scenario so its somewhat balanced andyour pilots still have fun.

Good lord I forgot just how massive the su-27 fighters are compared to the f-16.

Wichtig wäre die Berücksichtigung der schwedischen frühwarnflugzeuge

12:00 I mean it is the other way around with tanks and anti-tank weapons etc for Ukraine, so...

In round one, the Vipers scored a few kills but got swatted like flies. In round two, the Vipers pulled off a pyrrhic victory. The SU-35s probably would've fared better in round two if they were packing some R-37s.

Bender is on the team?

What if all the planes just turned around when all those missles where sent? Couldn they just out run them and run the orcs out of missles?

13:15 watching Fly-By-Wire - he was in no trouble... he was just in a "target rich environment"!

Su-35s went down because the first enemy missiles came from 30 miles - at that range, even old missiles are pretty deadly.

What we'd like to see are scenarios where the F-16A can take off, fly a mission where they launch a few HARMs and maybe hit a target of opportunity or secondary target with laser-guided or JDAM bombs...all flying low and fast and avoiding potential SAMs and then landing again. No one is imagining or worrying about Su35s or Su57s dogfighting with them. The fact is, Ukraine's been flying sorties with ancient MiG-29s that are WAY worse than MLU F-16s since the war started, and have been surviving and being successful. How much of an improvement would MLU F-16s be over those MiG-29s?

video idea f16a shooting hypersonic missle and taking down the brigade.

30:04 legit made me laugh.. 🤣🤣🤣

FLY is back - yay! 😊

Cap. Congrats on the bambino 👶🍼 . Could you take a look at a more realistic scenario for the F16a ..Could be find themselves in or used in , bit like your earlier bomber interception with SU-35 CAP and QRA further out allowing for a bit of shoot and scoot, maybe also have bit of patriot cover in the rear. Or close air support, or using the HARM with SU-35 in CAP or QRA. thanks and great work.