I honestly have Thor. He has way better feats

I'm giving this to Thor. He has far more experience and greater durability.

Guts from Berserk vs Etrigan From DC comics

@@newbornviking9721 I like this idea.

This match up was awesome but what about my mom and dad in a court custody battle?

That is kinda sus I love it

Don't worry, you're not alone

Sounds like something Deadpool would say

hahaha you done?

Is u gay bro

What about Luke Skywalker Vs Artoria Pendragon

@@Leontrophic682 i drawn Deku x Tohka lmao

Yeah cause nitpicking diffrent stories makes sense.. 😅 Goku at least has a stright line story and not varuhus diffrent storeies where he sometimes is Op and sometimes low powered..

@@Leontrophic682 Since when was this a thing?

Nope. Darth Vader vs Mahito is more iconic. Can't believe you forgot to mention it.

Minor spelling mistake ☝🤓

Superman has little to no personality in the dceu. Bros only emotion is being sad.

@filthywalffe2633 true but there are some other versions of Superman that are good characters.

​@@filthywalffle2633 What do you mean? He was happy around his mom, and when he took his first flight.

@@AngelloGomez-nh6cc definitely, I agree, but dceu Superman is a robot

"Creation-Feats and Destruction-Feats go hand in hand" Hahaha, wtf

When you just want to write good fanfiction but people only care about the fight scenes

@@lolstalgic9602 you understood the deep meaning

Not even toaa 😂

Odin lied... He knew of hella, celestials, Zeus lighting bolt, and infinity stones. All are above it.

@@gergernzero6904 when does Odin ever tell the truth

Odin didn’t lie about hela😂 no one asked or found out her existence to question it.

@@treythegreatwhite It implied in "no equal" ...

FUCKING THANK YOU! So many of these channels try to say that because someone dodges an attack means they are moving at the same speed when that isn't at all the case.

I didn’t even watch the Superman part yet but he’s giving the benefit of doubt because Superman is relative to flash in speed who literally traversed timelines

​@@swagkashithat's what these guys do. Try to highball people in order to make the fight more even, so neither fanbase loses their minds. Reality of it is that thor was getting blitzed by quick silver. Who is about 2-5x faster than speed of sound, in the MCU. However, thor has very good travel speed feats, as a result of his weapons. Kinda like how a pilot can travel 1k times their actual speed. But they'll never be able to fight at that speed

Finally someone understand 😂 damnit

Except most the examples he showed have them reacting at the same or after the projectile is fired

It's more reaction and reflex than actual movement and attack speed

@@jcvandyck3537 the thing about that is that reacting to a light speed attack doesn't scale you to that, sometimes you just see the attack coming and block before it actually attacks you

Exactly if superman can move at the speed of light than those wildebeests in the safari that dodged him can move even faster according to this logic

​@cbte4452 I mean, saying he can move at that speed doesn't mean he is going to do it at all times does it?

@TheBombasticFatRat your right. I just put it like that because that's how to creator was scaling speed. For example he said quicksilver was faster than mjolnir but couldn't dodge bullets even though mjolnir clearly isn't always traveling at full speed

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​@@ChuckAre we forgetting that a star, the thing that nearly killed thor would power up Superman. If the battle went into space, this fight easily goes to Superman. On earth, it could go either way, although i do think the speed difference gives Superman a hyge advantage. Also, i truly do believe Superman is more durable and can potentially dish out more damage.

​​@@cw9468that's still a really insane durability feat for thor. because that's superman hax. It's like saying ice living in a place of -9999 degrees when's that's his hax. Thor did wasn't has power if he had storm breaker he would've survived way longer. Superman also struggled to survive a nuke even he's in weakened state. Same even thor thor a blast of power stone, a bad beating for thanos and still survive minutes unlike superman surggle to survive a nuke. So thor takes durability

ONLY because he acrually had MUCH more experience using his powers and was categorically stronger and faster that Zod due to being on Earth longer while Zod was literally learning his powers during the fight.

@@justinanderson2460 He wasn't stronger or faster. They were equal physically. If being on Earth for 33 years made him stronger, he would've had no problem with Faora and Nam-Ek, but he did. Clark also never used the full range of his powers until the movie, so it's not like he had much experience either.

​@@kanyerahming I thought he was struggling with them because he was holding back?

@@Zaacdrums Why would he hold back? They were endangering Earth and he had to stop them, and there was zero implication he held back anything. He wasn’t fully confident he could take them down either, based on Faora’s statement. Sure, he’s not actively trying to kill them, but he’s not pulling punches either.

@@kanyerahming if your not trying to kill someone. Aren’t you actively holding back. But I watched the scene again. I don’t think he was holding back. He just can’t fight for shit

Nah I'd punch

The strongest main superhero of DC vs the strongest main superhero of Marvel. This fight will determine which one of them is the challenger.

Superman is the definition of the Strongest

Not at all that was literally the story Zack Snyder wrote and was going with until WB did him dirty that's why he released it

He has the feats to, though

@@kanyerahmingno he doesn’t 😂

@@epsyfn he can consistently react to light speed attacks and scales to characters who do. How doesn’t he? Superman doesn’t have feats like those

@@kanyerahmingyour trolling right?

@@someflayd7451 no, I’m legitimately serious. I can’t think of a single speed feat Superman has that’s above Thor’s, unless I’m missing something

Being the most overpowered in their world doesn't mean that they'd be the same in a different story.

Thor isn’t winning against Superman

@@demongod6878 What if he does?

@@ether2275 Judging by the 80+ years of Superman's history and around 60 years of Thor's history, Thor ain't got anything on Superman I mean if u read the comics Thor doesn't even go to a fight without his belt of strength Megingjord, same in the movies

@@Faster_than_light_x This has nothing to do with it.

Lmao

He already did this matchup tho-

plus he used himself as a shield instead of moving them far.

Bro before he caught those bullets he was well rested and in the carrier chilling before he saw Hawkeye in danger, he wasn’t exhausted or tired, he wasn’t just fast enough…. We can also see the scene when Hawkeye shot the glass quicksilver was standing on in the avengers mansion, the bullet wasn’t statued or anything, it was moving in exactly quicksilver time, moving at the speed quicksilver moves. And that also tallies with the fact the director Whedon said quicksilver was just as fast as a bullet… so of course it’s clear he couldn’t outrun bullets

@@AOTmultiverse I don't remember him being on the hallicariar

@@Spmnls so he died a hero

@@AOTmultiverse I don't remember him being on the hallicariar before running at Hawkeye to save him

"Creation-Feats and Destruction-Feats go hand in hand" Hahaha

@@slevinchannel7589 There is no creation feat there? A star blasted Thor’s chest, a moon landed on the Avengers. Both durability

Yeah that same neutron star would power Superman up lol

@@nerdcorner2680 pieces... not the whole moon. if the entire moon hit the planet they are all deadl

@@mmanzanozr1 so superman gets powered up by all suns now......................?

My pleasure!

When has Kryptonians having a magic weakness ever been addressed in the DCEU? I swear everyone thinks comic logic always applies to the movies for some reason even if the universes are different

@@kanyerahming in BVS Wonder Woman‘s sword was able to cut off Doomsday‘s Arm who was far stronger than Superman at that time. I don’t think Amazonians have access to a type metal that could pierce Kryptonian skin. Wonder Woman’s sword as well as her shield, lasso and gauntlet are imbued with magic.

@@connorhawke4373 her sword is just that sharp, I don’t think its magical. Her lasso def is tho.

@@kanyerahming nah that’s the sword of Athena and it‘s definitely imbued with Magic

@@connorhawke4373 when was that stated though? not disagreeing

Superman is definitely 5 x stronger physically and he's way too fast. I don't think thor can even hit him once before the fight is over

@@PPPPPPPPP135 he’s not sorry Thor shown way better strength feats in movies tho after holding open a STAR!!! that’s the sized of a small planet

That is cope

Superman will absorb the Star's rediation and get even stronger bro

​@user-ro3ju8ds9i I like how you are saying this guy is coping when i have seen you under so many comments trying to argue with people on why Superman wins. You are the one that is coping. Also, you say that Superman can get stronger in the sun like Thor would just let him. And you dont even know how long it would take for superman to get as strong as thor using that method. So please stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

@@gamingtoast7974 bro the video even backs me up wtf are u talking about😅

@@gamingtoast7974 I said Thor being durable because of the neutron star feat is irrelevant because superman would get stronger from it if superman was in a similar situation with the neutron star ...😄 how is that cope ..superman gets stronger from solar radiation .Thor wouldn't even know it's making superman stronger coz he doesn't know anything about superman ...by the time he realizes it it would be too late

Oh please. It would be a good fight in general but Clark would lose more than he would win.

Superman loses horrible. Thors way stronger and more durable also faster travel speed and overall power

​@@mythicaltyrant7476 bruh 🤦‍♂️

@@PPPPPPPPP135 get mad at the feats not me

@@mythicaltyrant7476the feats say Superman would no dif Thor instantly 💀

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The beginning of justice league alone gives wonder women a feat above Thor she defeated ares who defeated darkseid sups came back not fazed by an attack by someone who defeated doomsday powered up? Crack came back or it never left 🙄

@@JeZuse777 nope.did you pay attention to his video.thor has a higher AP,raw power and durability than super man but not a massive gap, which puts him above Wonder woman.The Darkseid that was injured in battle was not at his peak.

@@JeZuse777 just because she defeated Ares does not make her above Thor. power scale Ares properly with feats

So mcu fat old zues is op got one shot by Thor but a young ares taking out a billion year old darkseid is him being young ha ha stop it. Because ain’t no more power ups Superman get it the fight when he would defeat darkseid and the powered up steppinwoulf didn’t even fazed him. Thor is not seeing Superman my guy.

@@JeZuse777 shh, watch the video properly and keep your opinions to your self

Thank u for this sound reasoning

Agreed

Thanks!

Travel speed

Thor only managed to do that because of Zeus's thunder bolt.

that's the bifrost enchantment that acts like a portal. anyone that enters it is getting sent the speed of whatever. it's not even individual combat speed.

Travel speed and combat speed are 2 different things.

@@JasonNuhuhe still has it😂 and it’s talking about movie Thor.

Glad you enjoyed it!

But the question would be is Thor's lightning even magic? I don't think MCU has actual supernatural magic, just highly advanced scientific manipulation and technology. One could also argue Thor's lightning is normal natural lighting simply summoned by means of magic.

Henry Cavill's Superman can achieve Mach 27.5 so no it’s not close

@@Vdrater that's supersonic, not superluminal like Thor proved to be

@@JeSsE10mCcOy11 he doesn’t consistently move at those speeds superman fights constantly show him moving at those speeds

@@JeSsE10mCcOy11 he can react to those things but he can’t move at those speeds consistently

@@Vdrater you said that Henry Cavill's Superman was only supersonic fighting speed. So explain your inconsistency again?

Which is most likely aim dodging light beams

@@justindai8401 light speed beams aren't mftl+

Yes, yes he can

​@@AuroraBoostno he can't, sup is way too fast

@PPPPPPPPP135 Sup is fast but it's not gonna stop Thor's thunder from striking him if he gets near him. I'm giving the edge to Superman but the fight can literally go either way

Yeah, why wouldn’t he be able to?

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If he didn't, Carol would have been able to catch up to it.

@@ChuckDon’t photons move slower in an atmosphere than in the void of space ?

@@Chuck Other than the usual “for the story”. If Thanos had the capability to throw any object at relativistic speeds, none of the fights would’ve lasted as long. It’s likely that he was just closer to the van, or maybe Carol wasn’t flying fast, just incase she couldn’t stop in time

​@@Chuckbro no ...

​@@valou-scalingLight in air is 1.0003 times slower than light in a vacuum, which slows it all the way down from 299,792,458 meters per second to 299,702,547 meters per second. That's a slowdown of 89,911 meters per second, which looks like a lot but is only three ten-thousandths of the speed of light. Not much difference at all

This guy is an obvious Marvel fanboy..He spent the majority of the video championing Thor and brushed over Superman feats lmao..This channel is even a Marvel fanatics channel

​​@@drsupreme1971He just doesn't want to upset his Thor fans. Sup clearly wins

Mjolnir literally travelled from space to earth in seconds and breaks the sound barrier repeatedly, and actually does have light speed reaction feats. He’s clearly not nowhere near Mach 1.

@@drsupreme1971he does this for speed feats in all his videos nothing new bro clearly a marvel die hard

That'll be down the line!

@@Chuck YES YES YES YES

its kinda obvious that superman wins in comics, would be an interesting video though

@@dexays. I'm not going to even argue I'm just going to seem surprised

Hell yeah I can't wait ​@@Chuck

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Context is does not support this argument. Do more research.

@@justinanderson2460 care to explain?

​​@@Battle-Enjoyer324+ Sure. Several things. For starters, the DCEU Snyderverse movies go out of their way to create spectacles of damage and destruction to present the character's feats and power in a clear and overt manner. The MCU by and large, only do this when necessary. The entire style of of the movies and how the feats are presented are different. So there's a meta element before we even get into the lore itself. Speaking of, Zod and Clark were fighting the way they were in a no-holds barred, fight to the death, clearly going all out and Zod in particular was making a point of causing great destruction (or caring very little about it). Thor vs Loki in Avengers meanwhile was 2 brothers fighting each other in a glorified squabble. Neither wanted to kill the other and not only was Thor weakened in Avengers anyway, he was holding back immensely. This very video showed the source so I won't quote or cite it again here but in Thor 1, Thor strikes the ground in Jotunheim so hard that it destroys and utterly collapses an area that is 100 times the size of the Grand Caynon. With 1 single blow. The ENTIRE CITY Zod and Clark were fighting in would fit in an equivalent area many, many, many times over. Moreover, Jotunheim is massively larger than Earth and the area destroyed by Thor was referred to as a continental shelf. Thor also broke the Rainbow Bridge in Thor 1 with 10 swings from Mjolnir during his fight with Loki. The Bifrost is capable of containing and channelling energy that can destroy a planet as that is precisely what Loki was gonna use it for. Jotunheim no less which is (again) multiple times the size of Earth. Yet Thor shattered the Bifrost in 10 blows. 1 blow in Ragnarok. This is the same Thor who's fight with Loki was "contained to the top of 1 building". As I said, Thor was much weaker in Avengers but he also made a point of explaining to the Avengers and Coulson that he was ashamed that his previous appearance on Earth caused much destruction so it's clear he is holding back while there as well. Since (again) we KNOW he is capable of MUCH more. Iron Man was also getting stomped and even against a weakened Thor, the only thing he did was ruffle Thor's hair a little - even after a massive power boost that Thor himself gave Tony by accident. Thor was so never trying to fight Hulk properly either. Instead trying to talk and reason with him the whole time. The point here is that the context of the fights are massively different. You're argument is based off of them being comparable when that's just not the case. Much of that context can be summed up by (as much as rhis phrase gets erroneously thrown around these days) Thor was holding back massively most of the time. It's also completely unarguably that Steppenwolf could beat Thor. How on Earth did you come to that conclusion?

@@justinanderson2460 well the thing is, what we see and what is presented is what we have to go off of feats wise. If you saw no other feats of 2 men and one destroyed a wall with a punch but the other didn’t, the one who destroyed the wall would look stronger. MCU has more ridiculous anti feats such as Thor needing 2 hits to defeat an Ultron bot, or Thor and Gorr fighting against a car and not breaking it. I can’t recall such low showings for DCEU Superman As for the Clark/Zod fight, Zod wasn’t holding back but Clark was. He didn’t want to kill Zod. The problem with considering Thor weakened in Avengers, is that he got the jump on Iron Man and Hulk. So, pretty much evens out tbh. I don’t remember feats of TDW or AOU to put Thor above his Avengers 1 feats. The Jotunheim strike seems outlierish. Thor literally could have one shot Sokovia, Thanos army, etc if the feat was consistent. Maybe Jotunheim is physically weaker than Earth. Aquaman, Cyborg, Wonder Woman 3v1 couldn’t beat Steppenwolf. Cyborg’s blasts can casually cut down several buildings. Damage output similar to Thor’s lightning. Aquaman and Wonder Woman have similar striking strength as Thor when it comes to how far they can launch someone. Steppenwolf stayed conscious after Superman punches but Thor got KOd by some Hulk/Thanos punches. Steppenwolf armor couldn’t be pierced by WW or Aquaman weapons but Thor and his armor get pierced by seemingly every sharp weapon used to attack him.

Thors feats blow superman out of the water. Thors literally stronger, more durable had more power and attack potential. Not even close

He wouldn’t tho

Yeah he would

Beast

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Tyler superman wins. That guy is on another level than mos superman

@@Zaacdrums Definitely agree.

Thank u

Bad argument. And it’s out of character for Superman to decapitate anyone

@@kanyerahming yes it is out of character for Superman

@@kanyerahming dceu superman ....it's in character ,he snapped steppenwolfs horn with heat vision. ...He broke zods neck

@@kanyerahming Thor is really just carrying a weapon superman can one shot him with ..its kinda sad

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Black Adam is Weak bro in the movie

@@PYRATE31 definitely not, though they did downplay DR. Fate

What a nothing statement. Almost as bad as "I think they would just be friends"

@@johndiddilyjoe6258 What a bad counter argument that you have nothing to add to the discussion. What a nothing response

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bro... he escaped the singularity of a blackhole that targets Kryptonians specifically. He was lightspeed in the first movie when he was several times weaker. Luthor's Doomsday also fires heat vision attacks that Wonder Woman and a nerfed Superman easily react to after it has been fired. Definitely FTL, what DCEU did you watch?

​​@@revenantronin8377that was not a black hole, it's proven in the movie "It's like a black hole but not actually one" Superman managed to escape because of it collapsing. And Superman kept up with a flash not going at full speed, Superman Is 75% sol which Is relativistic and he's travel/reaction speed should scale to His combat speed. thor at a regular basis can react to His hammer that went from the ground to the sun In seconds In His second movie which Is massively faster than light, he Also reacted to the destroyer's Odin force beams which are confirmed to be beams of light, Thor Also escaped a blackhole confirmed by the VFX team In Thor 2. Thor Also reacted to Quicksilver and was the only one moving In His pov, to later chuck Mjolnir at him. Thor's at least 15% sol and has faster than light In travel/reaction speed. This Is enough for him to keep up with the Man of steel despait being slightly slower. Also Doomsday's beam reaction Time by WW was mostly aim dodgin, Superman only reacted to it once, but the HV it self isn't the fastest.

he overhyped both. Many of the reaction feats are just characters seeing an attack and dodging/blocking before it starts.

@@davidemanuelarroyoportacio9499 Mjolnir's speed fluctuates. It's not constant. Him dodging destroyers beams can also be explained by aim dodging, the destroyer isn't exactly subtle in charging it's beams. If thor was moving at all in quicksilvers pov, it was very very little, quicksilver went out of super speed for a second and thats when thor threw mjolnir.

​@davidemanuelarroyoportacio9it was 499

And the neutron star looked like it was blue -- That would double Superman's power

Natalie Portman a baddie

@@Chuck true she got anakin skywalker and thor odinson

​@@dionysisnance4204She is the greatest woman across fiction

@@mandalorianhunter1don’t forget spider man and mysterio too 😂

I mean, IW Thor isn’t stronger than IG Thanos, he just overpowered his beam. He doesn’t scale to the snap or anything. But yeah, the Russos statement is wrong.

@@kanyerahming Overpowering an infinity gauntlet beam that has the power stone included in said beam(that overpowered Captain Marvel who is as strong or stronger than Thanos in EG) being overpowered by Thor spells to us that he is stronger than both Thanos’. Nothing is well explained or provided to tell us or show us that a raw Thanos is stronger than a Thanos with a complete gauntlet.

@@logankimp5563 ??? When did I say base thanos is stronger than IG thanos And no, it doesn’t, bc the IGs full power is in the snap, not the beam. The beam didn’t burn the gauntlet, the universal-wide snap did, clearly showing a power output difference.

No😂

​@@ChamupaJayasingheyes😂

@@PPPPPPPPP135 prove

All this talk counts on Superman holding back

Thor fans are delusional honestly ..like the proof is right there

Thor destroying part of Jotunheim is better than all of Clark’s feats

Did u watch the video😂

I dont think we watched the same video bro

​@user-ro3ju8ds9i Chuck literally stated thor wins more times than not. Are you an idiot?

Nah superman negs

Where is the decimating from 🤐🤐 Kurse at that time was way stronger n durable than Sup bro it's not even close ... Hela, Thanos outscales bro . Maybe Hulk will be ok

@@PYRATE31superman possess invulnerablity means almost no weapon can penetrate his skin, and no one is more powerful than Superman on earth under yellow sun, just watch MOS so much destruction and Superman doesn’t have a scratch on his suit, also Superman punches generate shockwave, even a single punch was able to destroy krypton ship

@@Superboyprime0 what U smoking bruh 😂😂😂 Stormbreaker can cut clean no dif

@@Superboyprime0 it's a king's weapon dude that's all it needs to be

@@PYRATE31 you should know more about Superman then, even if it can cut it, Superman just takes Stromebreaker from Thor and cut his head before he even realise, now go cry

Superman cut to half😂

Light in air is 1.0003 times slower than light in a vacuum, which slows it all the way down from 299,792,458 meters per second to 299,702,547 meters per second. That's a slowdown of 89,911 meters per second, which looks like a lot but is only three ten-thousandths of the speed of light. So firstly, what they said is valid, but the difference is not much anyways so you get your point as well

@@crossfire6558the point was that they claimed light IN GENERAL was slower than actual light in the MCU. Not even the vacuum claim. The statement was braindead and is another reason OPM fans are amongst the worst speed scalers.

Nope DCEU Supes solos MCU Thor.

@@DahGabriel-gk2cr nope

@@DahGabriel-gk2cr nope. Thor is stronger he lifted moon size rings as shown in infinity war, the vfx also stated they are indeed moon size. And they have been calculated to be larger than anything soup man can do. Zach synder already stated he can't even lift a continent 🤣. So he's stronger, attack power In thor 1 he shook a planet in jotenhium as stated by the movie directors. And he performed the same feats in age of ultron, and durability wise he tanked Power stone. And reality stone at full power which as gonna casually destroy the universe💀 also mjolnir is faster than superman in travel speed, and he can react ag light speed when he fought destroyer he easily reacted to his beams were confirmed light speed so rip. Thor out classes plastic man with feats over and over again cry harder.

@@mythicaltyrant7476 When did Zach ever confirm that Superman can't lift a continent when it is literally stated in his movie that Superman is stronger than a planet, do you realize how dumb you sound. Supes solos that god of jokes.

@@mythicaltyrant7476 and no Thor fangay mjonir is not faster Superman 🥴. Dude resisted the pull of a black hole to the phantom zone which is beyond space and time.

Eh debatable

Superman only “owns” flash when they are Together because any time the flash is with the Justice league he gets nerfed to high hell. The flash out ran instant teleportation across the universe, I’m sorry Superman is not moving that fast, that’s a highly inconsistent argument. That’s like saying Thor is stronger then the hulk because on one occasion he knocked out a weaker then normal hulk.

@@justingabriel1765 there was no weaker than before hulk and Thor was getting beat by iron man and Steve. Wtf did you expect? If supes was there. He would one-shot both. And that's an assumption made out of nowhere. Where the fuck is it said that flash is weaker with the league but faster alone?

Terraforming planets is nice and all but thor literally countered a blast from the power stone, something that could destroy planets with ease.

@@_BlackWolf177 it’s not an assumption it’s literally what’s on the screen and page. Flash when he’s in stories with the league just does not do the things that he does by himself. In the injustice movie dude was killed by a saw balde. Like he could have phased through it, ran into the room and checked it 3 times over before any machine in there could know he was there. It was so ridiculous. There should be no realistic way that the guy who can run fast enough to travel through time, and out run instant teleportation, should be slower then Superman. That’s utterly ridiculous. Just like people who complain that there’s any realistic way Batman beats Superman, but there’s comics in which it happens and everyone can acknowledge that it’s ridiculous. I’m not saying Superman wouldn’t beat Thor and then yeah I’m not dumb, but I think your reason as to why he’s faster is ridiculous. Flash thinks in super speed, to the point that he actually has to slow down his brain to have a normal conversation. He could essentially do what Metro Man did in megamind and move so fast that everything around him is so slow that it looks like time “stopped”. You tell me then how that guy is slower then Superman without it being the classic case of needing to nerf characters when they meet to not make them too OP. It doesn’t have to be stated officially its right there where the flash is just uncharacteristically dumb or not as fast as he usually is.

@@justingabriel1765 why are you bringing the injustice movie? Read the injustice comics or play the injustice game. In the comics and game, flash literally beat superman at some time. Superman dared not to mess with him. And superman beating flash is a good feat no matter how you put it mate. But I do respect what you said tho. Writers have nerfed flash at some times.

In uar silly dreams