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Comic avengers, W. MCU, Debatable.

Ironman would solo the verse

@charlesilenotuma , I was working on this video since last week. It'd also be impossible for me to research, script, record, edit, and upload within like a day from him uploading his video.

​@Chuck what about darkside vs viltrumites

LMAOO!

Somehow Hawkeye always survives apocalyptic scenarios

i laughed very hard loudly 😭😂

EXCELLENT WORK. CHUCK VS VIDEO

@@nicolasbolas2247 he IS a superhuman compared to us regardless of him being a "normal human" in our eyes. same with black widow

Fax

It is what it is

Because it was trash.

What did she do

@@AkaiKnight She reignited a dying star

Well idk. If they can make weapons with a frequency to hurt the avengers ears they could have a bit more of a chance.

@@seancollins6572maybe cap and Thor’s combo could work?

​@@seancollins6572 I can see Hawkeye having an arrow with that frequency

I don’t know. Cap is tactically amazing and he is also worthy of wielding Thor’s hammer. So he could be useful.

Hawkeye has been crucial to the Avengers victory.

For real. In the Comics Hulk is essentially immortal and has infinite healing and power potential.

World Breaker vs Viltrum

Agreed. From the fighting battle beast does with the viltrums all it should take is for hulk to get hit enough that he goes full berserk and just starts ripping them in half. Alot of them focus on their overpowering strength so it would take someone more tactical like omniman to take him down or throw him into space.

@@dazamm8872 they are pretty calculating. They just never face an equal threat in the comics so they don't need to use tactics. Example the final battle (except battle beast but that was a one on one fight to the death so)

Comic Hulk probably solos the viltrumite.

Like bro a tag team of comic Thor and Hulk would decimate the Viltrumites

​@@pigglesgoomshby7249 There doesn't even need to be a tag team. Hulk alone or Thor alone is enough.

@@davidnewhart2533spiderman victims ngl

​@@TheirPreacher Ngl they are spiderman victims if you think about it

Hulk would one shot the verse

Comic hulk would beat the entire planet at the same time

One thunder clap from Comic hulk and there done

It sucks bro

Comic Hulk takes a step and destroys the Viltrumites and their homeworld.

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In comics it's beyond overkill. Thor alone could probably solo the entire verse in base form. Movie Avengers vs Viltrumites could go either way.

@@slavicemperor8279 Comic avengers smoke the viltrumites but MCU version is getting torn apart.

@@davidknowsbetter8495 nah because of hacks

Iron man alone solos

They absolutely would lol they’d be their own worst enemies otherwise…and they KNOW that…so they’d play nice…while it suits them 🤔

This makes me think about the Ang Lee Hulk, and how he does grow stronger. If I recall correctly, he doesn’t have better feats than MCU Hulk, but I wish that ability was utilized more in the movies.

MCU Hulk got beat up by Chitauri soldiers.

Scarlet Witch would probably solo the entire Viltrum empire ngl

You say "doesn't even have World Breaker State" like it's some casual thing. It isn't. WB Hulk is at MINIMUM the 4th strongest incarnation of the Hulk out of 20 or more different versions and it took an incredibly contrived series of events to get him to that power level over a long period of time.

​@@thorthegodofthunder9150Scarlet Witch is a game of dice. If she can cast her spells fast enough, she might solo all Viltrumites by herself. But she might just get speedblitzed by one too.

Viltrumite gets no diff by Ironman

@@lilsavage337comic wise yep Movie wise as he would get slammed by the powerful vitrumites like Nolan, conquest and most notably thragg

@@lilsavage337 bro there's an ironman equivalent in the viltrumite universe called robot and even he isn't shit against viltrumites.

Strongest Viltrumites literally aren't even planet level 😂 They'd get clapped so hard

@@siphosethumbaba7559 Then a stronger one called Tech Jacket who could only give them a nose-bleed

True.

And Wanda also couldn't react to Captain Carter and America Chaves in MoM💀

In that case, Wanda stole her energy so she lost her durability But yeah the scaling is super inconsistent they go from planetary and relativistic to sligtly superhuman

At least the scaling in the MCU. In the comics scaling is rather consistent, as long as you stay within the same universe/ series.

Because wanda absorbed her powers

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Not only vfx artists, but also Elizabeth Olson, AKA the actress of Scarlet Witch. I was kinda baffled when he quoted her as an authority on power in any way. Sure it might be her character, but that’s like saying that Morgan Freeman has a working understanding of what God is capable of since he played him in Bruce Almighty.

Cope, the guidebooks also back up FTL stuff like with Iron Man's repulsors and the black hole grenades. They might not be a main source, but they're an official source nonetheless. The wakanda files also infers Quicksilver can reach light speeds and that Ultron has laser technology like Stark's, which means that whoever reacted to and dodged that would also be in that speed tier.

@@Chuck I don’t disagree with you, I just think it was a silly fallacy. Particularly citing the actress like I mentioned above. It’s just a criticism lol, like pointing out your repeated misuse of “infer” and mistaking it for imply. An inference is a conclusion that you draw from an implication, which is something suggested and not outright shown.

​@@Chuck calling iron man ftl then showing him swinging a slow metal punch against thor proves otherwise I get it not being same speed for viewer but looking at what's happening it's clear he punched as fast as we would in a metal suit, he ain't ftl in physical combat he's Norman person speed

@@sukumuieywang8058 Scarlet Witch is mid af.

Omni Man defeated the guardians of the globe single handedly.

@@oXRaptorzXothor hulk & scarlet witch would too

​@@oXRaptorzXo Thor by himself solos invincible verse 😂

​@@oXRaptorzXo You're not seriously comparing a fish, a stretchy alien, a ghost girl, a worse Batman and Flash, and two strong but dumb people to the entire MCU.

@@snubabubba2745 Immortal and War Woman and Red Rush are probably stronger than most MCU heroes though besides Thor, Captain Marvel, Wanda, and maybe Strange

No. Reaction speed is noticing and processing a movement extremely early in its initiation. What you're talking about is prediction. They can be often confused. And can be used together.

@@Telarius it’s called aim dodge and precognition not reaction

@chaneladriana6829 Not what I'm even talking about you just got your definition incorrect. I corrected it, or your understanding.

@chaneladriana6829 What you described originally is prediction. Pecognition isn't prediction These are seperate. Prediction: is a raw numeral value or pattern in which you then can gain understanding of a behavior most likely to occur. It might not happen though. Precognition: is literally seeing an attack in the future, by paranormal means. Then you act in accordance. It's not a speed feat. But infact would allow someone slower to beable to combat someone far faster. Example: The Sharingan in Naruto. Has recognition. Despite Sasuke being knowingly slower up until he unlocks the 3 tomoe, once unlocked and gained recognition he can then keep up via seeing the events before they happen and start moving before they begin. In precognition you're not prediction. You know for a fact an action will occur. No guess. Reaction: Reaction speed is seperate from all those above. This is being the first to initialize, but also to comprehend and visibly interact with the movement from another. Aka, one person has a reaction speed of 0.20 ms. The other 0.30 ms. This isn't prediction, but instead a fast action taken upon knowing the others action has started. Aka, reaction. There is no guess, just speed and movement. There is no prediction, or precognition. It's raw input and results. Many of these can be mixed together but are seperate fundamentally. Aka, if you're using prediction to dodge a bullet, you arnt reacting to the bullet. Only to the enemy moving. You're then prediction on average where you think the trajectory of the bullet is going and try to move in that direction. However if you mess this up you cannot actually REACT to the bullets speed, so it'll hit you with no way to move. This dosent take as much speed as someone who could just react to the bullet and move.

@@Telarius read the scaling on wiki and don’t give me copy paste from someone else, I do scaling myself. I’m not some random on KZfaq who gets their info from quora.

Yes that really stupid, it not that hard to get out of the way by seeing where the enemy is aiming at

Exactly, if you see someone line up a shot on you, You're gonna dodge, so if you move out of the target before they fire them that isn't ftl, the beam would have to already be travelling and then be dodged to be considered light speed+

He also deflected the lasers... And that DOES take light speed reaction. Nice try.

Hulk would be manageable for them, Thor depends on teamwork. In reality if Viltrumites are as fast as they are the Avengers are just dead and theres no which way about it

Facts

Wonder what if it was just one viltrim vs 5-7 of the top avengers tony and cap are both dead instantly Thor would take a beating for a while. They might have a chance of killing hulk if he’s the first target overall.

They have literally no way to kill Vision that doesn't involve a surprise attack.

@@erebusvonmori8050i mean nolan killed green ghost

@@Ale-km3ux Yeah. He managed to startle a complete novice into making a mistake, during a surprise attack.

And Invincible universe scaling is consistent? Omniman survives a giant billion dollar laser from space but gets clapped by robots some nerd made in his basement with spare metal parts

​@@Palach624true. That was ridiculous

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Thank you. This type of power scaling is massive stretch

Yeah if it wasn’t telegraphed then it would be impossible to dodge. 😅 assuming your using your sense of sight to fight are react 😅

I like how he’s just accepting that these are all light speed projectiles when measuring their speed with analysis would likely prove that wrong 😅

@@Playingwithproxies Well, hes right about it canonically being stated to be light speed

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No

@@mylordsarentino4402 "No" what?

I think that due to her scaling above Captain Marvel, she should be able to exert far superior levels than Atom Eve.

Another thing to add to this is there is a big difference between matter manipulation and reality manipulation

Well sorry to disappoint you but the Avengers stomp

@@thefirstprime0124They don’t though. Not MCU.

@oXRaptorzXo since Captain Marvel energized a sun should tell you and Wanda being as powerful as she is basically maybe surpassing her and same with thor should be enough completely

@@thefirstprime0124the average viltrumite scales to planetary they wouldn’t stop shit

@UserNamedTenonto the average viltrumite isn't planetary Omni man isn't Average and same goes for Mark and the other Viltrumite and it took 3 of them to blow up one planet they arnt planetary

LMAO

They have literally no way to kill Vision, and any of the magic users can outright no-sell any Viltrumite just through the Mirror Verse.

They don't just dodge it, they even block or reflect it back.Thor literally hits back the Destroyer's beam numerous times.

@@ChuckI wouldn’t just take their word to say it’s a light beam the speed would be more like a bullet if you measured it baised on the video evidence

Yeah that’s mostly in the mcu unless it’s comics to comics then Viltrumires are royally screwed

There's a difference between travel speed and combat speed. By that logic even captain marvel is ftl and so is ikaris due to their space travel scenes.

@@laap007l8 if you watch the video he literally shows statements proving the viltrumites have combat speed and travel speed relative to each other. Either way nobody in the avengers is 3.3 billion times ftl. They get blitzed

@@toxicplayz8368 sorry for the late reply. sure, still doesn't change that top tier Avengers are too durable for viltrumites. Again, thragg can't survive in the sun, Carol can reignite a sun causally. The only thing MCU suffers is with inconsistencies but anyone who scales to captain marvel would be just fine. Like chuck said, alot of viltrumites would die trying to smash into the likes of thor and captain marvel

@@laap007l8 chuck also just said that the viltrumites are likely to have more stamina too. They can fight for days on end straight while being injured to the extent of missing limbs and etc. so like if the avengers can’t hit the viltrumites then that’s that. Also captain marvel is only that strong in her binary form, she’d get blitzed while she’s still in base or the viltrumites would just outlast tbh, no matter which way you look at it, low tier avengers get blitzed, and the higher tier avengers get outnumbered and eventually outlasted due to their vastly inferior stamina.

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But are the viltrumites a galactic or universal threat??

Cap. Any Infinity Gauntlet user solos Invincible. Did you see the shit Ultron was doing in What If Ep 6?

Delusional. Viltrumites aren't even strong enough to defeat Thor in 1v1. Let alone cosmic entities like Surtur, IG Thanos, Eternity, TLT, Dormammu, Loki and others. Actually, Invincible verse is so weak in comparison that Wanda with Darkhold alone would solo easily.

Omni man fought a phase ability and we know how that went

@@bnbnism I honestly didn't remember, but we know vision went beyond just phasing and was able to control density as well.

@@bnbnism a human who didn’t react to phase. She didn’t really do anything in that fight. And she should have just escaped immediately 😂 😅

@@bnbnism Yeah, he got a rookie to react on instinct. Whereas Vision is extremely rational and experienced.

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Comics version? Yeah they dog walk the viltrumites MCU version, might be a lot tougher

@@RainInTheSummer I’m no MCU fan but Thor just based on his durability feats in infinity war with tanking the full power of a dwarf star from the Dyson sphere forge already puts him at beyond mark and thraggs durability as they burned to a crisp in the surface of the sun on the surface. Not even a full concentrated blast from the entire sun. It doesn’t look like it but he also already has speed feats comparable to their warp speed. And any time he dodged a laser on screen it’s an instant light speed reaction time which is about the combat reaction time mark has. Thor alone claps based on superior durability and wider range of powers.

@@RiceCubeTech fair enough, I still think it’s close fight though

no

@@RiceCubeTech Mark and Thragg were being bathed in the sun while thor was just surviving its energy output so they aren't easily comparable and it those two feats are more about heat resistance than durability. Viltrumites have mftl+ reaction speeds, did you not watch the video. And arguably viltruites can reach large planet - dwarf star lvl's of power on the high ends. Which is relative or above thor.

no

​@@mementomori1553Yes. If we include Wanda and Strange who can warp reality entire Invincible verse is toast

​@@mementomori1553current mcu yes. Easily. Before infinity war I would have my doubts

But how about Thor being able to react to photons of light from captain marvel or hela reacting and dodging lightning from Thor??

I do agree with the whole light speed thing because imo the only people who scale to relativistic speeds is Thor, captain marvel, Odin, Thanos, some of the eternals and hela I might be forgetting a few tho

@yetundeadeyemi2436 I may be misremembering or completely forgetting a scene but I don't remember him and captain marvel interacting. In terms of Hella, my assumption would be she reacted to thor initializing a lightning strike, like lifting his arms up in front of him or hunching forward slightly. I always went off the assumption that thors speed feats came from the fact that his flight/mjolnir just propelled him forward incredibly quickly. Kinda like how iron man can travel at hypersonic speeds due to the power from his suit, but can't necessarily react to hypersonic attacks like a speedster could.

@@elijahshewell1176 if you want the best case of reaction feats watch Thor Vs the destroyer, keep in mind the beams he shoots are confirmed to be light beams from the Odin force

@@elijahshewell1176 also these things like lightning and mjolnir can travel very fast at short distances so even if the person is tracking the movements of the person light can travel very fast so u basically have to be somewhat reacting to the attack to be able to move as fast, that's why people like iron man I believe aren't hyper sonic

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