What a refreshing response. :) I need to pin this!

@@DouglasBeaumont Thank you! I really think a lot of people could learn from this if they really understood what it is you are doing here. Regardless of differences in belief, being unkind is not helpful to anyone. If we are really the "Bible Christians" we purport to be, then we should remember that what we do should be done in love. However, this is really a good lesson for anyone who claims to follow the teachings in the Bible...Protestant, Catholic, or otherwise. When we take the Bible and verbally beat people with it, we damage our testimony of who we claim to be. It is not edifying to anyone and certainly doesn't glorify God. It becomes strictly an intellectual pursuit driven by pride and arrogance. It doesn't matter whether what you are saying is true or not if you are just going to be a, for lack of a better word, jerk about it. So, I really very much appreciate what you've done here because it really does shine a light on a major problem that people often don't seem to recognize in themselves. Thank you for being willing to hold a mirror up in front of our faces... because that is exactly what you've done with this video.

faith produces works which can be evidence of your faith not works saving you Jesus, sacrifice is sufficient

Why apologies? When you show bible verses, it's not to blast anyone it's because we're defending God's word and showing the way to salvation.

​@lois2997 It's not free ? Jesus paid a great price, His life.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.😎 where does it say works

“Not every one who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. MATTHEW 7: 21 "Does the will . . . " Does is a verb. An action word. Action requires effort. Effort equals work.

@@jeffscully1347 John 1:12 "But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God." John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life." John 3:18 "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God." John 3:36 "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him." Acts 16:31 "And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household." Romans 10:9-10 "because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved." Romans 10:13 'For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”' Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast." These verses show very clearly that it is through belief in Jesus Christ that we are saved.

@@TheChadPad "And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God", to affirm the need of good works for Salvation does not mean to deny that Salvation is given by God, but in the whole Scipture is clear either that He requires from us obedience to His Will and sanctity of life to receive it, or a deep and sincere conversion if we confront an inminent death, like the case of the 'good thief' crucified besides Christ: Luke 23:42-43. And, on the other hand, what part of "whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life" (John 3:36) is not clear? To obey Christ is to live according to His Commandments: "And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? ... Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother". Mc 10:17-19 If those are not 'good works or deeds' what are they then?

@@nonfecittaliter4361 what John 3:36 means is that if you do not obey the Son, you obviously do not believe in the Son. It is making a dichotomy, opposites, out of the two states. One, you believe in the Son and have eternal life. Two, you do not obey the Son, and you do not have eternal life. You can’t sincerely believe and remain in your old ways. The Ephesians verse says “not as a result of works.” That is very explicit. The works are a result of the belief, for without the belief, our good works are like filthy rags. Jesus didn’t come down just to get us into the afterlife. He came down to set us straight here on earth. So when he told that person to follow the commandments, he could not have meant that their salvation was a result of their good works. That would contradict Ephesians. He was telling them how they are to live, which truly is experiencing eternal life. I think we’ve all experienced a different way of living after accepting Christ Jesus, one free of suffering, no? To me, that is experiencing eternal life here on earth. That experience will carry over with us through death. So we are saved by believing in Him, as that person did, upon which Jesus instructed him to follow the commandments, because of course he would. That was part of His purpose here on earth, to instruct us. Could that person have experienced holiness while breaking the 10 commandments? No, so He instructed him to follow them. He was in no way teaching him how to earn salvation. No one can earn it, as none of us deserve it. That is how I fit these verses together. I still hold that we are saved upon believing in Him, as these verses have stated, but then works naturally come from that. If they don’t, one doesn’t believe

So, not "alone". Congratulations, you're Catholic. ;)

Don't leave out v10. _10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them._

Welcome home!

@@parrisroy Fun fact: a personal attack is not an argument, but a logical fallacy. I'm a Protestant too, but man you literally just proved his point about Protestants being vehemently anti-Catholic

y'all say we go to hell cause we're not catholic

I would do more research, when you listen to Catholic apologists you enter an echo chamber where what they say supports their wrong understanding of Scripture. Educate yourself, read the New Testament, the Letters from Paul, watch good christian videos and be ready with open mind to acquire new understanding, Catholicism is not education, it is indoctrination.

@@joycegreer9391 I have tried to have nice and comprehensive discussions with many people who think like you do. And have been a complete waste of my time. You have no interest nor humility to hear the other side. Your bias is first. So, keep your opinión to yourself and have a nice day.

A single verse of the Bible is God's words. How dare you say we cannot base it on God's Words.

@@frankielee5623 saint peter himself tells us that some things in the scriptures are “hard to understand.” I’m Christian but you CANNOT base something off of a single line of scripture. Imagine if I wanted to justify abortion and I used psalms 137:9 “blessed is he who throws your infants against the rocks.” If I tried to justify baby murder with that single verse you’d call me a lunatic or a moron. And you’d be right to do that. Basing something off of just a single verse is awful theology

"I can do all things through a single verse taken out of context."

First, what do you mean by protestant? What exactly is your definition of that word? Was the thief on the cross next to Jesus a protestant? And, where were his works shown to allow him into paradise on that day, as Jesus promised? Were all first century Christians protestants, or Roman Catholics? That is, before all of the Christian sayings were invented, like Sola fide, etal? Or, did the first century Christians simply follow what the scriptures said?

Thing is the prist would tell you what the word was, you did not have written word onlyclergy. And they have stuff in ther library that they still wont let puppets like you near.

@@archiehendricks6093 um...no. that's not how this works.

The nice thing about being Catholic is I understand BOTH verses.

The Lord Jesus Christ has warned us to "Take heed and beware of the leaven of the pharisees and the sadducees"

​@@DouglasBeaumontso you are just bragging about our labels of denominations just like what the Pharisees and Sadducees also brag about? Like "Hey I'm a Catholic, I'm Protestant, so I am better than you and smarter than you blah blah"? Reply to the real topic, it is the Scripture. Aren't we all united in Christ? So why not discuss it like the Christians in the Acts 15?

​@@mickomagallanes1185as my dad used to say is heaven you must earn or is it a free gift? So many whether protestants or Catholics would say you have to earn it. Then who gets the credit? We do. We are dead in trespasses and sins and are good works don't change that. Jesus must live inside by faith. Works are for sanctification. Justification is where Jesus take our sins and we are given God's righteousness. A true believer is sealed with the Holy spirit of promise. We can call God ABBA not in repetitions but just like we would talk to our Dad.

We dont earn it but we must fight to enter in. The work is to believe. To be faithful. This is not a meritorius work, it is the condition set by God.

The absurdity of a church that's probably existed for 15 minutes using a Bible the Catholic Church gave them with doctrines of God they understand because of Catholic Church Councils is difficult to overstate. :)

@@DouglasBeaumont AMEN! A while back I decided to come up with a kind of unique timeline of sorts to show how Protestantism is so very late to Christianity. Most Protestants I've ever engaged seem to have the feeling that Christianity began with Martin Luther. They simply cannot comprehend (or allow themselves to admit) that the Catholic Church goes back to the beginning, with Jesus establishing His one, holy, catholic, and Apostolic Church against which the gates of Hell shall not prevail. So I did the calculations and came up with the history of Christianity compressed into one year (some of the major dates): >> If all of Christian history was compressed into the time span of one year, the Catholic Church would exist on Day One; January 1 (AD 33). >> The Bible would appear on Day 68, March 8 (AD 397). This is after 19% of all Christian history had already occurred. Between 15-18 generations of Christians lived their entire lives without ever knowing there would be an actual, canonized Bible. >> Martin Luther great heresy would take place in the evening of Day 273, September 30 (1517) This is after 75% of all Christian history had already occurred. Luther invented his own church 1,484 years after Jesus established the Catholic Church. >> The King James Bible wouldn't be published until Day 294, October 21 (1611). This is after 80% of all Christian history had already occurred. This is 1,214 years AFTER the Catholic Church produced the first Bible. "To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant" ~ St. Cardinal John Henry Newman; former anti-Catholic, Anglican priest who, after researching the Early Church Fathers discovered the Catholic Church is the Church founded by Jesus, and converted to Catholicism.

So funny because a Baptist pastor made me search for the eucharist because he told me catholic crucified just every time. 2020 pandemic hit and I researched and became a solid on fire catholic. I wondered in protestants churches because I didn't know what my church taught and listen to all kind of nasty stuffs from protestants and of course the priests scandals didn't help. From what I know now, as fr. Chad 🇹🇩 said" no man behaviors should shake your faith"

In your research, have you come to the understanding that the RCC teaches as dogma that the eucharist is the actual body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus. Basically it teaches that the elements become God Himself. Do you understand that when you kneel before the elements you are worshipping them, and before actually receiving them you are made by the priest/church to acknowledge verbally that you confirm that elements as God . Do you also understand that if these elements are not Jesus you are worshipping something that is not God and that is idolatry. People choose to not take part in this not because they wish to deprive themselves but rather to stay faithful and and obedient..... “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. “You shall have no other gods before Me." Exodus 20:2‭-‬3

@@mack6429 You do not rely truly on scripture, you rely on YOUR interpretation of scripture. Therefore it is your tradition that is guiding your beliefs. Solo Scripture and solo faith are a contradiction. 1) Sacrament of Baptism: Mark 16:16, 1 Peter 3:21, Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16 and Colossians 2:13, Romans 6:3; Galatians 3:27. 2) Sacrament of penance: John 20:19-23, james 5:16, acts 3:19, 1 John1:9, Proverbs 28:13, Mathew 3:8 3) Confirmation (Sealing of the Holy Spirit) acts 19:5-6, Ephesians 4:30, John 2:20, 2 Timothy 1:6, acts 8:14-17, Ephesians 1:13 4) Eucharist: Mathew 26:26-29; Mark 14:22-25; Luke 22:14-20,Corinthians 11:26, Acts 2:42-43, John 6:48-50. Matthew 16:18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

The Catholic Church has always said that converts make better catholics.

Then Catholic priests doing wrong against children really have a problem, I hope God will forgive them .

Don't Judge ! Define " the better Catholic " .

@@tomkusz3741 A better catholic bows lower to the ground befor graven images. The best catholic bows so low that his face is pressed to the ground so hard that his nose starts to bleed.

No matter which side of the road your on, thats a good one. ☝️

No one teaches you're saved by works and I've got a whole video on why Eph. 2:8-10 doesn't threaten the Church at all! :)

Your interpretation might contradict the Church, but the Bible doesn't. Find me as clear of a contradiction with Catholicism as James 2:24 is for Protestantism. I'll wait. ;)

@@DouglasBeaumont I don't understand how James is contradicting protestentanism. For me it's pretty clear. James gives an example how faith and works concept should be understood. If a man comes to you hungry and you say, "go, eat well", then perhaps you don't really care for the person. Because if you really want the person to have food, you would have provided the food rather than just saying him to eat. That means, your goodness is only on your lips, it's not coming from your heart. If it comes from heart you would rather help him have food. In that scenario if you say you are good person because you suggested the person to eat, then it can't be accepted. This is the example that James used to help us understand how faith works. When you put your trust in Christ, you become a new creation (2 Cor 5:17). Your identity in Christ changes. His love will be poured into your heart (Rom 5:5). If we love him we will keep his commandments (John 14:15). And his commandment is to love others (John 15:12). Love is kind and not self-serving (1 Cor 13). If that agape Love is in your heart it will definitely show up in actions - either thru manifesting itself towards others or towards God. If agape Love is shown towards man, then that love helps him, rebukes him, corrects him, prunes him, grows him, save him from hell fire. If that love is shown towards God, it will obey Him like what Abraham did and Rahab did. In the case of Rahab, she did the will of God by standing by Israel that is by stading with the Lord. Abraham did the same. This is just the manifestation of their changed heart. James says that when desire is conceived it gives birth to sin (thru action). Using the same principle, we can understand if Faith in God is conceived Works are birthed. These works are situational again. You can't say that you will offer up your child to become righteous like Abraham did. It worked only for Abraham. It will not work for us. You can't say that you will welcome some Israelites in your home and become righteous like Rahab did. That only works for Rahab. The same thing is true for every one. When God works in one's life, it is the Lord that brings change in us. It's the lord that guides us to do certain things. Some people may return 4 times of the money they robbed like zaccheaus, some people might simply burn all the idols of their former religion, some people might have to lose their family, some people might give up on watching movies, some might stop flirting with women. Again, the work that comes forth after having faith is different from person to person. And definitely as he walks in the Lord he will have more light on the nature of God which would lead him to become more and more like Jesus being perfected in all the ways. This is all about James was talking. It has nothing to do with sacraments. He is not saying "do good works to be justified". He was saying, "If you have faith you will definitely have good works. But I don't see that good works that is produced by faith. That's why I can't say you have faith". Protestants believe exactly the same thing. We believe in the faith that works thru love. We believe faith can't be alone without love. We believe love is not just a noun but also verb. We beleive that our actions have the origin in our faith. This is where we differ with Catholics. Catholicism says, if i understand correctly, that works can exist without faith. That is why it teaches that even atheists can go to heaven. But we beleive that good works cannot exist without faith. In other words, if the good works are not proceeding from agape Love, they are not considered to declare a person righteous. Having said all of this, James is not contradicting protestentanism position. On a contrary it helps us understand faith even better. To simplify, we believe that faith causes works, unlike Catholics that beleive that works can stand apart faith. In Catholicism you can produce works without faith. But for us, such works which proceed from an un-repentant, un-regenerated, un-changed heart has no value. BUt Catholics value these works. In other words, we try to maintain quality rather than quantity. It's the heart we focus on. I dunno about Catholics. The "faith alone" here James was talking about was not Sola fide protestants believe. In Sola fide we believe that faith will go with works (Jam 2:22). But in the "faith alone" that James was referring there was no regeneration, no repentence, no change in the heart, no new creation formed. We see such people in India who are born to a Christian family. They call themselves Christians because their parents are Christians ( according to Indian culture, religion is an inheritance). James addresses such people who are not born again but simply claim themselves Christians and declare that they have faith. Addressing such faith, James says that that kinda faith doesn't work. That's dead faith. Protestants say Amen to that. The faith that protestants teach have born again experience, repentant heart, hate towards sin, holiness, becoming a new creation, becoming more like Christ, growing in the spirit, obeying the Lord etc... Such faith we believe definitely produce work. However, we don't believe that because of that works we are saved but because of our faith in Christ we are saved. James wasn't saying to keep on working to get saved. He was simply saying to let the faith manifest thru works so that he may know that they are saved. He was expecting the works to be an evidence of justification, not as a means of justification. If this is understood then everything will be pretty clear. But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith without works and I will show you faith by my works. James 2:18 NET bible.com/bible/107/jas.2.18.NET My logic is pretty simple. I can have tears in two ways. I can cry or I can act. Just because I acted on screen doesn't mean I really cried. For me when Catholics say that we need to work to get saved, it sounds that same to me. They are adding solution in their eyes eltting the tears fall from their eyes, assuming they are crying (as it appears on the out side) and getting comfort that they are being saved misunderstanding James. But protestants say that we need to genuinely cry and the tears should come out Of repentant heart. Those tears that come out of a genuine cry has value. Only those tears tell us that we are repenting. That's what we beleive. Using the analogy, I want say that if crying is working, it seems to me that Catholicism is encouraging the church to put solutions in the eyes and somehow look like crying. But protestants think otherwise. I know I have repeated a lot of times the same thing. I know it's a long reply. But I feel I want to show my understanding in multiple forms so that I would nOt be misunderstood or rather it bringS some more clarity on my world view. Finally, Sola fide of protestants and "faith alone" James addressed were different. They both sound same but their characteristics are different. Considering the characteristics we can say that as protestants we mean faith differently from what James was addressing in this chapter. Just because two cars are red doesn't mean they both are same. Their company, model number, number plate given differentiates one from another. Like wise just because you see faith alone in protestentanism and in James doesn't mean both are same. I think this is called fallacy of equivocation. BY SAyiNg Sola fide we mean a different thing. By saying faith alone James mean a different thing. WHen James was not targetting what we as protestants beleive how will it demolish protestentinism?

@@DouglasBeaumont Pride goes before a fall.

@@KingMswatiIII Vatican II is not the catholic church. It is a false counterfeit. It is meant to destroy Catholicism because we are in apocalyptic times.

The video maker asked the viewer to follow the traditions of catholic Church. Traditions belong to the world but you, him & me will have to leave the world at any moment. Why? This is not our permanent place. The world is largest womb, we are going to go out of it. Out of womb only children should come, not devotees. Catholics, religious, ideoligical & so on. We are sent as children should go as children or it is very dangerous. Child is a person who has the life of his or her father even after mother's womb. Or wil be an aborted, too dangerous. Child from the largest womb, is a person who has the LIFE of Him who is CAUSE for the womb even after the womb. Or will be an aborted, with all senses, but be stinky. So he or she be kept in flames. Stink leaves not to put off flames. The LIFE is at the distance of our calling in to make us children. Do not be deceived by this video maker. He lives without purpose of life.

Amen. I am converting this year after years of being a protestant

Me toooooo

Rome will fall like Constantinople. This Pope is the last one.

@@tj3kidos DON'T take this as an offence. I'm an agnostic. But I'm thankful that Protestantism exist. I can't imagine the Catholic church leading the world. It's too rigid. The enlightenment wouldn't have occurred without Protestant churches' emancipation of free thinking.

@@tyh3120 wrong, the gates of hell shall never the Seat of St Peter

And that was before the holy spirit our helper was given. Book of Hebrew : By faith& By faith &By faith, All these, kjv

Charles, that is so awesome to hear! That is the journey my husband and I are on now. We hope to join the church by Easter vigil next year.

@@joycegreer9391 Thank you Joyce. You and people like you are why I got smart left the false gospel of the prods and returned to the true church started by Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. God bless you. I just said a prayer for your immoral soul and will remember you in my prayers if I ever think of you again.

@@CatholicNana Thank you Pattie. I wish you well. I go to the Easter Vigil because it’s a beautiful mass and it is so awesome to share the joy with the catechumens. God bless you and your husband.

@@joycegreer9391 😂 “that deception” was the faith of the earliest Christians and the only church Christ established while on earth … you are hilarious!

@@joycegreer9391 lol you are truly hilarious! You obviously don’t know what you are talking about “there’s no salvation outside the Catholic Church” is a 2000 year old premise. Please read! Saint Irenaeus (died A.D. 202): "[The Church] is the entrance to life; all others are thieves and robbers. On this account we are bound to avoid them... We hear it declared of the unbelieving and the blinded of this world that they shall not inherit the world of life which is to come... Resist them in defense of the only true and life giving faith, which the Church has received from the Apostles and imparted to her sons." (Against Heresies, Book III) Origen (died A.D. 254): "Let no man deceive himself. Outside this house, that is, outside the Church no one is saved." (In Iesu Nave homiliae) Saint Cyprian (died A.D. 258): "He who has turned his back on the Church of Christ shall not come to the rewards of Christ; he is an alien, a worldling, an enemy. You cannot have God for your Father if you have not the Church for your mother. Our Lord warns us when He says: `he that is not with Me is against Me, and he that gathereth not with Me scattereth.' Whosoever breaks the peace and harmony of Christ acts against Christ; whoever gathers elsewhere than in the Church scatters the Church of Christ." (Unity of the Catholic Church) "He who does not hold this unity, does not hold the law of God, does not hold the faith of the Father and the Son, does not hold life and salvation." (Patrologiae Cursus Completus: Latina, Father Migne)

So right! It is not a denomination. It's being CHRISTIAN. We r all one in Jesus'

Way before that- There were divisions in the First Century that Paul wrote about.

@@donnatullio6270 you're catholic not a Christian.

@@merial7, Cathic, Christian, Baptist u name it. We r all followers in Christ. In Heaven it is not abt denomination..

@@donnatullio6270 Not all Catholics will get to Heaven, but in Heaven there are only Catholics. In other words, there is no Denominationalism in Heaven. Jesus and St. Paul taught that we should be one and agree on EVERYTHING.

You can argue that or the fact luther removed verses and altered the composition of Canon books, and protestants will still say lies!!!

Yes let’s unite for Christ! The end times are here! Let try to bring Jesus to the 6 billion lost!

@@jmdsservantofgod8405 I'll never join and follow the pope. I'm free in Christ alone in him will I follow I'll hold to my Duch Reformed Calvinist Doctrine. I'm a Born-again Evangelical Christian man filled with the Holy Spirit.

More to come!

Amen, Sister. In the Book of Acts. Peter and Silus

Yes whole households were baptized , and just what were the requirements to be baptized? -just as Jesus died for our sins, was buried, and rose to life again (see Romans 6:3-5). Jesus commanded His followers to make disciples and to baptize them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (see Matthew 28:18-20). Baptism has no saving virtue in itself. Jesus is our only Savior. But those who love Him will follow Him in baptism to signify their decision to accept Him as their Savior. According to the Bible, what are the prerequisites for being baptized? 1. Confess your sins. The Bible says of John the Baptist: “Then Jerusalem, all Judea, and all the region around the Jordan went out to him and were baptized by him in the Jordan, confessing their sins (Matthew 3:5, 6, NKJV). We need to acknowledge that we are sinners and confess our sins to God. If we do, He will forgive us (see 1 John 1:9). Ever heard an infant confess their sins? 2. Repent of your sins. When Peter preached to the people in Jerusalem on Pentecost following the resurrection of Jesus, many of them were convicted by the Holy Spirit and asked Peter what they should do. He replied, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins” (Acts 2:38, NKJV). Ever heard of an infant repenting of their sins? 3. Believe Believe on Jesus Christ and accept Him as your Savior from sin. When Philip met an Ethiopian and told him about Jesus, the Ethiopian wanted to be baptized. Philip told him, “ ‘If you believe with all your heart, you may.’ And he answered and said, ‘I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.’ . . . . And both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him” (Acts 8:37, 38, NKJV). “He who believes and is baptized will be saved” (Mark 16:16, NKJV). so how many infants have you heard express their belief in our savior? next query you should look for in scripture is baptism by full immersion as sprinkling is never found in scripture and the bible is what God has written for us for example of how we are to live. 2Tim 3:15-17

How do you know there were infants in the household? In Acts 10 everyone in the household hears Peter’s preaching and receives the Holy Spirit before baptism suggesting that everyone might have been old enough to understand preaching.

@@rds9872 Come on. Let's be serious. Let's say it was not an infant. Are you trying to tell me there were not at least a child between them? A household is composed of a mother, father and kids. You know it my friend lol. So you're trying to say it was all adults in there? How do you even know that too?

@@ricardocineus3799 Of course there were children. Children can hear the gospel, believe, and get baptized. Even at 2 or 3 years old that can be understood in a basic sense. The controversy is over infants who can’t understand and there is no reason to believe there were any present.

Doesn't sound very Protestant to me. Welcome to your journey.

@@jmon1272 i am tho lol... I'm part of an evangelical church

Also if by saying "welcome to your journey" you're welcoming me to catholicism, I would humbly say I do not intend to go catholic, or be strictly part of any denomination for that matter. In fact I would love to see protestants continue what the reformation wanted to do, and that is to perform a sort of, well, reformation to reform the Church and bring it back to biblical. More than anything I would love for the Church to stop pointing at each other calling each brother and sister a heretic, rather come together at a round table and have an intellectual discussion, to have a fellowship to achieve broader and deeper knowledge of the sacred texts, more than anything I would like for The One True Church(not protestant, catholic, orthodox, or any denomination for that mater, rather each and every individual who is saved by, has a relation to, and follows the teachings of Christ) to be united as a one body bearing abundant fruits for The Bridegroom

John, the Catholic Church has undergone many, many, many reformations in its history... much like the round tables you describe. As more of an orthodox/traditional Catholic, I fully agree that the current and past abuses in the Church require such a reformation. "The reformation" that most folks are familiar with (Luther) was essentially a breaking away versus a true reform. A kind of "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" so to speak. Although the Catholic Church has always been in need of and conducted reformations, I believe that it is the one true and most importantly apostolic Church... albeit far from perfect. Perfection comes much later in all of our stories. Also, no disrespect in my comments on your "journey"... I'm firmly on one myself and am convinced Catholicism is the correct path for my personal journey. Maybe yours as well :)

"If we separate these things completely from Christ then they are all meaningless." Yes, and no Catholic does that.

1054 was a split, a Schism, it was not a "reformation" and it was NOT anything close to protestant.

Keep coping, pal.

@@erikriza7165 - not for the POV of the Eastern Church. 1517 was merely a doubling down on the error in 1054.

based on which authority, right?

Madam, it is precisely the learning of history that led me to the Catholic Church. I support your love of the Word of God and I think both of us would agree that the Bible is inerrant, inspired, and God-breathed. My initial path to the Catholic Church started with a simple question, “why are catholic bibles bigger”. Several hours worth of intense research and study later led me to the disturbing conclusion that they didn’t add books, the reformers removed them. The deuterocanonical books were part of the Septuagint which the early Christians read. They were part of the canon and confirmed in numerous early councils (Rome, Carthage, Nicea to name a few). They were even included in some of the early protesting bibles.. but later pushed to the back and as of around the late 19th century were left out altogether. Yes, there are numerous questions protesting Christians still have (Mary, the papacy, Mary, purgatory… Mary..) you see my drift. But the major cracks in the Protestant armor lie with: 1.) historical veracity of the Catholic Church 2.)Obvious reality of the real presence of Jesus in the Eucharist (Gospel of John, chapter 6). Once you open the door to the history of Christianity.. and by history I mean pre-16th century… you will be staring into the face of mother Church

@@joycegreer9391 Mr Colizzo responded excellently. the Catholic church always followed the Septuagint, the Greek Version of the OT that Paul and other apostles quote from in the NT. it contains exactly the same books in the OT as the Catholic bible now does. It was Luther, who read St. Jerome's doubts on those 7 seven books, who threw them out (with no authority whatever). What most don't know is that he also threw out James and the Book of Revelation, to his everlasting shame...only Phillip Melancthon put them back in

@@joycegreer9391 this is full of inaccuracies...it was Ignatius of Antioch, who was thrown to the lions in 107 Ad, who first called the univeral Church (the Roman Catholic Church, started by no man like Luther, or Wesley, or Calvin) the Catholic Church. Here is his commentary on John 6: 7 They hold aloof from the Eucharist and from services of prayer, because they refuse to admit that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins and which, in his goodness, the Father raised . Consequently those who wrangle and dispute God’s gift face death. They would have done better to love and so share in the resurrection. The right thing to do, then, is to avoid such people and to talk about them neither in private nor in public. Rather pay attention to the prophets and above all to the gospel. There we get a clear picture of the Passion and see that the resurrection has really happened. 8 Flee from schism as the source of mischief.

@@joycegreer9391 this is straight ignorance, you haven't studied history, I said Paul, not Jesus

Yes I've noticed that too. A lot of wasted energy trying to settle things thay have already been settled.

Right, and they all have this notion that "the more you stick to the literal text, there more you are correct" so they hold silly views which we can prove wrong with modern science. But this puritanism is doomed to fail as it refused to grow and learn

This is an underrated comment. Love it.

Well said!

They are not Protestants, and not Spirit filled most likely. Because one who is reborn will never fall totally back into a works based gospel who teaches people that they are justified through God's law hence good works, and stay there.

@@halilalexanderzeverboom6872 In the final judgement God is seen taking into consideration of the works done. For example he says, I was hungry, you did not feed me, I was sick you did not visit me etc. It is clear He assesses the work of every man. In the end of the Revelation the Lord says, I am coming soon, and I will reward every one according to his works. Some people rely on St Paul to drive home the idea that faith alone is needed. But it is not so, if someone goes through his epistles carefully, he can find that he also insists good works as part of seeking nobility and eternity. This is why St James says faith without work is dead. One can mangify his faith only through work. Our Lord also says, it is not he who calls me Lord, Lord who enters the kingdom of God, but he who fulfills the will of his Father. Faith can be manifested by work alone. What is your stand about the Holy Eucharist? If you consider it only as a memorial service, I have to make a strong point against that. If you are interested I shall.

@@sebinantony6983 The judgement in Matthew 25 speaks about a judgement incase of alle the nations who survived the day of the Lord/great tribulation. It says the nations from all corners will be gathered. And they are judged based on their works, especially their attitude to the Jews during the great tribulation which will be the most worst time ever on earth. I don't believe this text can be used to support the thought that reborn christians will receive eternal life based on faith + works. Why do i say this? Both sheep and goats are suprised and confused when Christ said I was hungry and you gave Me food, I was naked and you clothed me etc. The sheep on this occasion aren't representing reborn believers but unbelieving persons from the nations who survived the great tribulation. They are counted as sheep because of their attitude to believing Jews in the great tribulation. If the sheep really were reborn believers how could they be surprised about what Christ said to them. They would know as christians that God asks those things of us, but they did not. I don't believe any gospel which mixes justification and sanctification incase of earning eternal life. Incase of the Eucharist, i believe that we keep de Lord's Supper in remembrance for His broken body and His shed blood for the forgivness of our sins. He told it to us Himself to do it in remembrance to Him. The problem to me is often that Orthodox place church tradition above the authority of Scripture. This leads to many errors, but the biggest one for me is a gospel of legalism where in the deepest core is teached that a christian is saved by faith + works, hence, saved by keeping God's law. This is not the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

You know the pope is the Anti-Christ and Mary you have is a Whoe !

@@matthewstanger1423 Mary is the woman mentioned by God in Genesis 3:15 and from Mary, Jesus was born by the Holy Spirit. If you call Mary a whore, you are questioning the birth of Jesus and thereby the Holy Spirit. Jesus has said any sin against the Son of Man will be forgiven. But the sins against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven either in this age or in the age to come. Here, you have specifically sinned against the Holy Spirit, and according to the word of Jesus, your fate has been sealed by yourself.

Yep, Roman Catholics add to Scripture routinely.

@@quinntjenkins the Catholic church made the Bible

That makes no sense whatsoever. You're hitting at a straw man.

@@dnzswithwombats There's no straw man in what he posted. He posted the truth.

@@wms72 Complete straw man.

The Roman Catholic Church is not Christian it is called Marians..

@@walterdaoilen4140 😂 you are hilarious!

@@walterdaoilen4140 No matter one’s opinion of the Catholic Church, which had a Reformation. The Eastern Orthodox Church, the Coptic Church, the Syriac Church, the Armenian Church and the Ethiopian Church never had a Reformation. Also, is it not interesting that ALL the “Reformers” were Catholic-Martin Luther was a Catholic Augustinian monk. John Calvin was a French Catholic who NEVER taught Limited Atonement. Urlich Zwingli was a Swiss Catholic and John Knox was a Scottish Catholic. All the Eastern Churches use the Septuagint for their Old Testament Text. These include the so-called Apocrypha, or as Catholics call them, the Deuterocanonical books. The Protestants use a Hebrew Bible that came along 250 years after the Jewish translation into Koine Greek in 247 BC by Hebrew Scholars. The Protestants-including Luther, retained the Apocrypha. The KJVs published in America all had the Apocrypha until English Protestant removed them circa 1830. The Geneva Bible of 1560 retains the Apocrypha. The Catholics kept them because Jerome kelt them in the Latin Vulgate. Christ Jesus is 100% divine and 100% human. His human mother’s name was Miriam (Mary in English). Jesus, from the cross, saw to it that His earthly mother was taken care of when He-Jesus-assigned the care of Mary to Apostle John. Be not so quick to disparage the Mother of our Savior and Lord because the Father selected Her above all women and He was conceived in her, the Virgin, by the power of the Holy Spirit!

@@armmkm where in the Bible bro that Jesus called mary his mother?

@@walterdaoilen4140 Hi Walter. I am sure you have read these many times. Matthew 1:18 (KJV) Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Luke 2:16 (KJV) And they came with haste, and found Mary, and Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger. John 2:2-5 (KJV) 2 And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage. 3 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine. 4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come. 5 His mother saith unto the servants, Whatsoever he saith unto you, do [it].

Good thing no one teaches that good deeds alone can save us!

@@DouglasBeaumont yet Catholics believe the sacraments are required for salvation and many, Mary is the way.

If you are saved then you are your own judge. Christ is our judge. 2 Cor 5:10.

@@eddardgreybeard TO AN EXTEND WE JUDGE OUR SELVES YES.. BUT THAT WE JUDGE BY THE WORD AND NOT A CHURCH SYSTEM.. OUR WORKS IS AN EXPRESION OF OUR FAITH AND LOVE WE HAVE FOR GOD AND HIS CREATION = OTHER PEOPLE IS INCLUDED THERE RIGHT.. AMEN.. also, there is a scripture that says the Saints will judge the earth... BY THE WORD WE DO,, WE SHOW THE ERROR IN OTHER BELIEF SYSTEMS AND THAT IS ACCOUNTED AS GOOD WORKS BUT IS ALSO IN A WAY JUDGING OTHERS.. BUT ULTIMATELY IT IS THE WORD THAT JUDGES AND THEREFORE CAN NOT FALL AWAY AS HE SAID IT WILL NEVER.. ALL TO BE DONE IN LOVE RIGHT.. BUT MANY MISS THE CORRECTIVE ATTRIBUTE IN A ACT OF LOVE.. We don't correct others errors to look smart / better more intellectual than others, it is to correct the error so they can be saved or edified as it should..

@@user-bm6xu1mi8l Why does it seem like you missed the point of my comment by a country mile?

@@eddardgreybeard just seems so.. i agree and edited what i see the Scriptures say with what you said..

@@user-bm6xu1mi8l we are convicted by the holy spirit

But Catholics don't hold onto tradition? They literally say tradition is Sacred and put it on par with scripture.

What scripture are you reading? My bible has Mary making sin offerings and calling Jesus her SAVIOR among a million other anti-Catholic things.

@@KingMswatiIII But popes are infallible when it comes to faith and morals. If there was even one blatant contradiction on those, it would call the entire papacy into question. Luckily, that's an easy thing to dig into!

@@KingMswatiIII Those are great verses too. The true gospel is all over the new testament. Catholics just need to read the bible! (And stop pretending that Catholic masses are giving them enough)

@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr Yes, see 2 Thessalonians 2:14. Protestants hold on too traditions that are not in the bible like faith alone or scripture alone.

They don't really have "faith".

@@CatholicDefender-bp7my are you aware that catholicism actually mandates sin - according to God's Word?

@@CatholicDefender-bp7my Satan has millions of people worshipping Mary.

You WROTE: "In the context from verse 14 to 26 of chapter 2, James is not saying that we are saved by works." My response: What "context" do you mean? And why is that "context" is the correct context? You WROTE: "He is bringing the connection between faith and works, showing that true faith leads to works as a prove that the faith is real." My response: James 2:20-23 states clearly "Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works; and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness"--and he was called a friend of God." You can see that James wrote " *faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works* " . He didn't wrote that faith leads to works, but faith is active with works and is completed by works. Therefore James concluded in verse 24: "You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone." You WROTE: "We need to check it out from other apostolic scriptures to get it clear (what causes salvation, works or faith?). For example, in Ephesians 2. 8-9 it is clear what is the "cause" of salvation between faith and works: ..."For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - not by works, so that no-one can boast" (Ephesians 2.8-9)." My response: This argument doesn't prove Sola Fide nor disprove it. We Catholic totally agree that salvation is a free gift from God given by grace through faith. We also admit that we do nothing to earn that gift. But we believe that we have to do good works to keep that gift. For example, let's say I give you a free book, and you have done nothing to have that gift. Now the question is, can you lose that book? The answer is "yes", if you throw it away, or forget where you put that book in, etc. Ephesians 2:8-9 doesn't give us the information that when we have the salvation from God, we can lose it or not. In addition to that, the verse says "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith...", NOT "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith *alone* ...". Paul was talking about the time when the Ephesians was once saved (the phrase "you have been saved" is in past tense), and that time salvation was "by grace", "through faith", and "not by works", but he didn't say that from then on works don't play any roles in salvation. You WROTE: "Many other texts like Romans 3.28; 5.1-2; Acts 16.31; 1 Peter 1.9 and so on confirms salvation as the outcome of faith in the Savior - Jesus Christ." My response: I have checked all those verses, and the only one mentions the outcome of faith is 1 Peter 1:9, so I will only discuss it (Btw, the other ones also don't prove Sola Fide). Here, I have two notes for you: first, this is not a full sentence; second, you are dropping words from the Bible. Let's look at the full sentence 1 Peter 1. 8-9: "Though you have not seen him, you love him. Though you do not now see him, you believe in him and rejoice with joy that is inexpressible and filled with glory, obtaining the outcome of your faith, the salvation of your souls." So what the Bible actually says is "the outcome of *your* faith". You have dropped the word "your", which I assume because you think "your" here is whoever reads this letter including you and me. This assumption I suppose comes from the fact that you cite a portion of a full sentence. If you read the whole sentence, it is clear that "your" here refers to the the ones who "have not seen him" yet "love him", who " do not now see him" yet "believe in him and rejoice with joy that is inexpressible and filled with glory". Those people Peter was writing to have not seen God, but still believe in God. Because of that faith, they are saved. However, we have no information given by Peter that from then on, they will need to or don't need to do any works to keep that salvation. Peter also not mentioning people who have not seen God and not believe in him, or people who have seen God and not believe in him, or people who have seen God and believe in him. Those possibilities are left open by that passage. Moreover, Peter wrote "the outcome of your faith", NOT "the outcome of your faith *alone* ."

Why does the Trinity not appear in the Bible?peace///

Stealing Gods title there I see , Portelli . We are commanded in the Holy Bible to call NO MAN Father for we have our Father in heaven . You have no fear of God , and are therefore devoid of wisdom and love for your Creator .

@@malcolmscrivener8750 sadly it's the Protestants who have no fear of God, often calling Him a friend etc.... And for you to follow Luther rather then the Holy Church that God Himself established 2000 years back just proves your ignorance. We Know that Only God the Father is the God of the Holy Trinity. We call a prist a Father out of RESPECT because he is the Alter Christi during the Holy Mass touching the Body Blood Soul and Divinity of our Lord and Savior in the Holy Eucharist. The Eucharist our Lord established 2000 years ago. The Eucharist you Protestants, still in protest against God's Holy Church, reject......Sadly

@@marzena3396815 I’m afraid you have swallowed the lies hook , line and sinker Marzena . Alter Christi means another Christ which is what we are strictly warned about in the Bibles description of the last days before the return of the Lord Jesus Christ . Read your Bible for yourself and ask Him for guidance to escape satans church .

@@malcolmscrivener8750 Christ Himself said - "Do this in remembrance of me "

@@malcolmscrivener8750 You are no doubt referring to Matthew 23:1-12, when Jesus tells us to call no man “father” or “teacher.” I suspect that you don't have any objection to calling a man "teacher" though, because you don't see that as a distinctively Catholic practice. Nevertheless, when Jesus speaks in Matthew 23:1-12, He is clearly using figurative language to emphasize that all legitimate authority and truth ultimately come from God. We are not to take these passages slavishly literally. Throughout the Bible many men are called fathers and teachers. For example, the father Abraham is referred to in Isaiah 51:1-2, Galatians 3:29, Genesis 12:2, Genesis 17:3-7, Genesis 18:19, Joshua 24:3, Romans 4:11-13, Galatians 3:16, John 8:39, and John 8:56. In addition, St. Stephen and St. Paul call the Jewish religious leaders “fathers” (Acts 7:2 and 22:1). St. Paul calls the Corinthians “my beloved children.... for I became your father in Christ Jesus through the Gospel” (1 Cor 4:14-15; also see 1 Thess 2:11, 1 Tim 1:2, and Tit 1:4). St. Paul became their spiritual father because he cooperated with God in giving them spiritual life, just as biological fathers cooperate with God in giving physical life. Catholics call their priests “father” because, like St. Paul, priests cooperate with God in giving spiritual life to their flock by preaching the Gospel and administering the sacraments. By the way, Orthodox priests and some Anglican clergymen (despite being Protestant), are also called "father." Christians of all stripes call earthly men fathers and teachers all the time. Is your dad not a father too? Do you not celebrate "Father's Day"? When you were in school, did you have a problem with referring to your instructors as "teacher"? If you are a male with children, are you not also a "father" and a "teacher" to your children?

@@joycegreer9391 It's universal in belief and doctrine. Unlike protestantism with its multiple conflicting beliefs and doctrine.

To the church of Ephesus. To the Church of Jerusalem. To the church of the Galatians. To the church of Corinth. So one would have to have tradition to come up with " Catholic church the church the Lord Jesus founded" because it's not found in scripture. So does one need it to come up with : purgatory, assumption of Mary , sinless Mary, merit of Saints, indulgences, a pope.... Friend scripture clearly reveals there is only one church in a location (any other church would be a second one not ordained by God) and it has no name (any other name is also not ordained by God or His word) save the name of the location. And their is only one universal church and scripture calls it " the church of God" not the Catholic church. Believe the gospel of Jesus Christ and love being accepted by him on account of His shed blood alone, not by belonging to a human invention with its dictates and threats which are powerless to save anyone. The message of the gospel, believed saves . Jesus saves those who believe in Him and trust in his death burial and resurrection: "by which ye are saved." ( Believe this promise) By which...the gospel...ye are saved. Only His righteousness is acceptable to God and we have His righteousness imputed to us as a free gift. We are only accepted in the Beloved and not our denominations or our good works. Be blessed

you are getting an incomplete and false teaching my friend...strive hard to do more reading and not what he is feeding you

1. False - you only lose Paul if you misunderstand him like Luther did. 2. So opbvious that Jesus lost nearly all his disciples and never explained? Doubtful. 3. Standard "what about the thief on the cross" retort answered here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/opeIjayJ0ZutYnk.html That's enough for now.

Oh wait.... answered here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/opeIjayJ0ZutYnk.html

Because of reading Trent they read James White. ;)

You have a great wife

Pranab my wife Theresa was a protestant too and she became catholic by herself.

Find me the verses where Jesus says it's okay to pray to Mary, because I'm pretty sure when he showed people how to pray, he went directly to the Father. As for repeating the "Hail Mary", Jesus also said in Matthew 6:7 to not use vain repetitions like the heathens do...but considering that he also said to not call any man "father" and you guys call the Pope "Holy Father", I don't think you care much about what Jesus taught...

don't waste time sir. come to Jesus.

Mary is a sinner needing Jesus Christ like us all. Mary is nothing more than the way Jesus can into the earth. Stop this fool 😒

dont struggle my friend...the lord doesn't want you to. Its made that even kids can understand. Read the whole verse completely, before and after the verse this man given and understand fully in the spirit. He is giving you half of the pie here, and on purpose

Don’t Catholic doctrines are wrong.

@@landygreene8523 ... except he just showed you, using the Bible, that they aren't.

@@DJ_BROBOT "Its made that even kids can understand." Which is why this video is so great. It's simple and easy to understand.

@@LMC444111 Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.

I read your commentary. I liked it. Unfortunately, “proof-texting” seems to be the cause for many errors that people fall into. Martin Luther added the German word “allein” to his German Bible. Heretical groups, beside Protestant groups, do the same (e.g. Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons). In my studies of the Eastern Orthodox, the Syriac, Armenian, Egyptian (Coptic), and the Ethiopian, I see similarities and some dissimilarities with Catholic teachings. For example, all these hold Mary in high regard. All these also hold the Eucharist in high regard that outshines the Protestant “memorial view of Urlich Zwingli. And so, being a former Catholic, but also having a kinship with many good Catholics and also realizing that there are a number of correct teachings in the Catholic Church, I note that those who put Protestantism against Catholicism are usually uninformed on what ALL the Eastern Churches teach. Salvation is taught as a process not a simple one time intellectual assent to who Christ is. Does not the Devil and the demons, intellectually know who Christ is? Yes. However, they choose not to follow Christ Jesus. Many so-called Christians display their religiosity, but they fail to live a life that is truly repentant. As one quick example, a Sunday Church attending Baptist married man I know, claims to be saved while simultaneously having an affair with a women from the praise team! That is not so wonderful! However, I wish I did not know that he is a wife beater. His abused wife eventually divorced him. He still attends the same Baptist Church every Sunday. I am not being judgmental, just looking at people’s claims versus their actions. If Noah believed-and was “saved” but did no work in building the Ark for 120 years, his testimony would have been drowned in the rising waters. Just as Rehab took action, so too, Abraham, who believed and moved and went (he did work-ok-not for his salvation, maybe as a result of it OR he did works to save himself and his family. Either way, action was required beyond intellectual assent. “Once saved always saved” may be true for a true believer who acts on his faith and follows Jesus. However, it may not work for those who are self-deceived by intellectual assent that has no works-which is the point James makes in his Epistle. You cannot have one without the other. Many use the proof text of the thief who believed and was saved. Here an Eastern Orthodox priest/teacher points out that Jesus died at the 9th hour (1500 or 3:00 pm). The two thieves did not die until it was almost sunset. It is a sim to leave a man upon a tree and the sunsets! Therefore, these two had their legs broken to hasten their demise, otherwise, death by asphyxiation, can take hours or even days. Point here is-the believer talked to the crowd as he hung on the cross after Jesus told him that “Today, you will be with me in paradise (“Paradiso” Grk). Therefore, the work that flowed out of this saved man was his testimony to the observers and his fellow crucified thief, that this was the Messiah. Yes, his testimony was a work of salvation no matter how one rationalized of it was because he was saved or if it helped his salvation-either way, Jesus knew and had already pronounced that today this man would be with Jesus in Paradise. Unfortunately, while many banter back and forth over who is more right-Catholics or Protestants-in Europe, thousands of Christians were killed by the Seljuk Turks and later by the Mohammedans. Coots today are being killed in Egypt and the Catholic-Protestant debate seems unconcerned to their academic debates. History records that Catholics have billed Protestants in the name of God and religion as viewed and justified by their owns yes. But history also recorded that the Protestants did the same thing in Europe and elsewhere. Urlich Zwingli decided to mix earthly politics within spiritual religious matters. He helped starve Catholics living in Catholic cantons of Switzerland with a food embargo. This led to riots. Zwingli died as a result of his participation in one of these riots. Jesus taught: Love your enemy, do good to those who seek to harm you. Zwingli forgot that and paid the price. More than one Catholic Pope had standing military armies as the political power of Rome fell, the Catholic Church, being the only stable institution left in Rome, filled in the political void to the chagrin of earthly wants that subjugated the heavenly mission of the Church. Peter was told to pit away the sword the night Jesus was arrested. Will Catholics and Protestants bury their swords? I doubt it. The debate continues. Are we not all made in the image of God?

@@armmkm You studied a bunch of false religions. Where did that get you? Jesus is a man, not a religion. Protestant is a word made up by the CC. It refers to people who dont subscribe to the catholic way. There are only two kinds of people in the world......the saved and the unsaved. Catholics are just as unsaved as the "prots". Both think they are saved. Everybody thinks they will go to a better place. How do i know all this? I was born again, not because im so wonderful. God just reached down and took me. I wasnt looking for it or even knew about it. Jesus said that you dont see the born again. You walk right by them and dont know who they are. Plus, they are far and few between. They dont have a flag, a costume or a headquarters.

The Main Belief For A Protestant Is That There Is No Word Higher Than The Word Of God.

@@robblancaster4214 Hi Rob. I sort of agree with you but there is much more to the story. Before there was a New Testament the Church was up and running. In Acts 15 we see the original church based at Jerusalem. Then there is a church established at Samaria by Philip. Next we read if the Church at Antioch where Barnabas and Mark came from and later Paul would be a missionary from that Church. Obviously, there was a Church at Damascus. This is why Saul of Tarsus (Paul) had papers to arrest Jewish-Christ followers in Damascus, Syria. The Didache (more correctly called “The Teaching of the Twelve” preceded the Gospels. This is why they are not referenced in the first-second century oral instruction that later was made into a book. Mark or Matthew, either one, was not written until AD 30-40. Assuming AD 35, as a rough approximation, this means the Church had no written New Testament Scripture to read. Paul’s letters came much latter-Thessalonians being his earliest writings. The Early Church relied heavily on the Greek Hebrew text; the Septuagint (LXX) as we know it. More properly, they knew it as The Book of the Seventy.” This 237 BC Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible was done by Jerusalem Hebrews. The Septuagint included the books the Protestants removed in 1830 AD. So much for fidelity to the written word. These are still included in the Bible used by the Orthodox Church, the Syriac Church, the Orthodox Coptic Church, and the Orthodox Ethiopian Church. Jerome kept them when he wrote the New Latin Vulgate which replaced the Old Latin Vetus Latina Bible. Martin Luther included them in his German Bible Translation. The Great Bible included them. The Bishops Bible included them. The Geneva Bible of 1560 included them. The King James Bible (1611) included them. Why? Because it was the Bible of Christianity and of the Jews for three centuries prior to the Birth of Christ! Notice, Christ never attacks them as fake. Nor do the Apostles. The Early Church Fathers quote them frequently and on par with the rest of Holy Writ. And, the Catholic Church kept them too! Protestants in England around 1830 decided to remove these books. It should also be noted, the Church has a right to interpret the Holy Scriptures because they helped it become written and circulated. So who should have authority to interpret it? The church who wrote it (Greek Church-Orthodox) or the Protestants, who rebelled against the church of Rome? This gets into trader respobse versus authorial intent, but that is an argument or debate for another day. Interestingly, the Reformation Fathers we’re all Catholic. Calvin, Zwingli, Knox, Luther was Catholic and an Augustinian monk. Compare the history of the Western church in Rome with the Eastern Church in Constantinople-notice the Eastern Church has never had a Reformation. Granted, there is a small split between the Eastern Orthodox Church versus the Oriental Orthodox Church over the issue of Christs nature-is it 2 natures in one (one human and one divine) or is it a new hybrid of the human and the divine commingled? Either way, these are very close to each other and both churches are in communion with archbishop. All Orthodox Churches view the Catholic Church as the first protesters because Rome went off script when it self elevated their bishop above all other bishops. In the entire Eastern church, bishops (Episkopos) are equal. Then the Church of Rome changed a creed without eucumenivsl reasons-the Filioque controversy. And it just kept getting worse with indulgences in the Middle Ages and the over veneration of Mary. Protestant leader Urlich Zwingli got caught mixing religion and politics as he -a Protestant- set out to starve Catholic Cantons in Switzerland. This is the guy who propelled the “memorial view” of the Eucharist denting any metaphysical change to the bread and wine. He got killed by rioters. Did not Christ teach “love your enemies?” Did not Christ instruct Peter to put away the sword the night Jesus was arrested. Therefore, I agree the Catholic Church has issues that are not Scriptural. But to uphold the Protestants as guiltless angels is also incorrect. Protestants did more than there share to distort Bible teachings. This lead to constant wars between Catholics and Protestants-who both killed each other in the name of God. And while Protestants snd Catholics were fighting and killing each other, the Armenian Christians were being slaughtered by the Seljuk Turks and years later, by the Mohammedans. Sola scriptura is a two-edge sword-as Scripture must be correctly interpreted in context-and that is not as simple as some think. When one group interprets differently from another-who is there to appeal to in order to resolve the conflict? Many this is why today, we still have a Catholic Church, an Orthodox Church, an Ethiopian Church and a Coptic Church-because they are closer to the original than the Protestants. Maybe this is why the Protestant Churches keep splitting into more and more denominations-250+ at last count! So where is the Church spoken of by Christ, when He said, the gates of hell would not prevail against it? When Christ uttered these words and when they were recorded later- By Greek speaking Christians-there was no Protestant Church anywhere on the face of the earth! The original centers of Christianity, in historical order, were: The Church at- 1. Jerusalem 2. Antioch 3. Alexandria 4. Rome 5. Constantinople These are the historical repositories of Early Christianity. Protestantism did not exist in the days of John Wycliffe who wrote the first English New Testament in 1382-84 in Lutterworth, England. The Protestant revolution started before 1517, but most use Martin Luther’s October 31, 1517 posting if his 95 thesis upon the Wittenberg Castle Church doors as a benchmark for the Reformation. Why the 31st of October? It was ALL SAINTS EVE. The next day was All Saints a day (11-01-1517), the third most revered Christian holiday in the Christian calendar after Christmas and Easter. It was on Holy Evening, that Luther nailed his papers to the church door at Wittenberg. Happy Halloween !!

@@robblancaster4214 Good evening Rob, I enjoy chatting and exchanging ideas. We can be secure in our own beliefs. I enjoyed you initial comment. My response was probably a bit too long-theology is not a subject of a few words. To share a thought I have maintained as a Catholic, as a Messianic Jew, as a Baptist, as a Presbyterian and as a Methodist: God’s Word is divine and is profitable for study, teaching, and initiating. Christian’s hold a God centered worldview. Now how well we live that out--that is another issues all together. For me, as obtuse as it sounds, the Bible is not about “religion” per se, but It most definitely is all about “relationship.” The relationship we have on a personal level with God individually and the relationship we maintain with our fellow man corporately. God sees all. Your turn. 🕊✌🏽Peace. Shalom.

You simply cannot pluck a verse, out of context, to create a belief system that is contradicts another verse or core belief. You just babbled and made no sense

CenterPorch NP how did you get saved , ? and what scriptures did you read that brought you to the catholic church. ? because I don`t believe the Holy spirit would lead anyone to the apostate catholic church with its unbiblical dogmas and doctrines and false Gospel of work base salvation

You do realize that Catholicism is a denomination, and ALL true believers world-wide make up the TRUE, and only, Church.... Paul spoke against denominations if you care about truth!

@@faithalone2171: But how can it be true if truth brings enlightenment yet the Catholic "church" caused centuries of *darkness,* now called the *Dark* Ages? It was the Bible-based Protestant Reformation that ushered in the Age of _Enlightenment_ back in the 1500s. What does that tell you? (Which one is from the Prince of *Darkness,* and which one from the _Light_ of the world?)

@@TexasBlues-ip6sv are you a christian or a muslim?

@@TexasBlues-ip6sv Paul was the apostles to the Gentiles . and the last apostle . and God inspired him to write most of the letters to the Churches , stop calling God a liar . he inspired every thing that Paul did Paul says that the Church which Christ established is His body of saved believers and when some one gets saved they are added to the Church his body Acts 2 : 47

Hello, I'm not sure whether you are aware but the verses you provide are 100% Catholic teaching. There is no contradiction at all. Catholics teach that we are fully saved BY GRACE and not of our own doing. For example the Catechism states: CCC 153 When St. Peter confessed that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God, Jesus declared to him that this revelation did not come "from flesh and blood", but from "my Father who is in heaven". Faith is a gift of God, a supernatural virtue infused by him. "Before this faith can be exercised, man must have the grace of God to move and assist him; he must have the interior helps of the Holy Spirit, who moves the heart and converts it to God, who opens the eyes of the mind and 'makes it easy for all to accept and believe the truth.'" CCC 154 Believing is possible only by grace and the interior helps of the Holy Spirit. But it is no less true that believing is an authentically human act. Trusting in God and cleaving to the truths he has revealed is contrary neither to human freedom nor to human reason. Even in human relations it is not contrary to our dignity to believe what other persons tell us about themselves and their intentions, or to trust their promises (for example, when a man and a woman marry) to share a communion of life with one another. If this is so, still less is it contrary to our dignity to "yield by faith the full submission of... intellect and will to God who reveals",26 and to share in an interior communion with him. As you can see it is only possible by God's grace to even have Faith, this is official Catholic teaching. The official Catholic teaching is also clearly displayed in the following verses of Phillipians 2:12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed-not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence-continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, -> WE have to work out our salvations (meaning we DO WORK for salvation,) St. Paul commands us. 13 for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose. But we cannot boast, because even so it is God's work in us, we require His grace. Put simple it is like this: 1. God's grace is required for our salvation 2. God provides this grace to all people: 1 Timothy 2 : 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 3. We work together with God's grace out of our free will. Note that if you pull out step three, and deny us to have free will then the result is a problem, since God WANTS all people to be saved. If our will (wanting) is 0% in effect here, and it is God's will for all people to be saved; how comes there is even a single person in hell?

Well, thats sttled if the word said it.

@@sotem3608 maybe but Protestants teach christ blood is only way to be absolved, not by pope. Plus history has recorded catholic prist charging for absolution, sorry christ blood did that, and by faith it is a free gift.

Luther should have heeded your warning!

Hear, hear!

Yes! “For you are saved by grace through faith, and this is not from yourselves; it is God’s gift -  not from works, so that no one can boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared ahead of time for us to do.” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭2‬:‭8‬-‭10‬ ‭CSB‬‬

James is literally saying that the justification is ALSO by works and not by faith alone. The works play a part in it. It's exactly the verse Doug is talking about in the video.

CORRECT: Paul, who wrote 2/3 of the new Testament was clear that we were saved by Grace through Faith in Jesus Christ. INCORRECT: Sola Fide

Amen !!! God is LOVE and he who loves is of God. Faith comes when we learn about God and LOVE trumps faith....see 1 Cor. 13, " If I have faith to move mountains but not LOVE = I am nothing."

Thank you!

Well said friend. I tell protestant’s only Jesus can found a Church NOT sinful men! There’s ONLY ONE CHURCH the ONE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC CHURCH founded by God himself Two Thousand year’s ago on the infallible Rock of Peter. Again there’s ONLY ONE CHURCH that’s it! Watch the warning or illumination of conscience by Christine Watkins. Then The Papacy can NOT be destroyed. Then Don’t call protestant’s Christian. The Bible is a Catholic book the protestant Bible is an incomplete and corrupted Catholic book which I’d recycle. God bless.

This highlights the problem when Catholics attempt to critique Protestantism. You lump them all into one entity as though they all believe the same things, then critique them. It fails in this instance because there are Protestant denominations which a very high regard for tradition. To say that Protestants as a whole reject tradition is a straw man, if ever there was one.

@@paulthiele3102 I never stated they all reject tradition. That would indeed be a strawman... My claim is that all Protestants claim tradition submits to Scripture. In practice, this actually means tradition submits to an interpretation of Scripture, not Scripture itself. The individual is ultimately the authority in this situation.

@@thelatineright777 No!

If only God had inspired James to actually write that instead of what he did inspire him to write.

Right, but Paul doesn't use the word "only/alone". So, despite the fact that he's ruled out any possibility of works being salvific, that doesn't count somehow. (RCC logic)

He cannot, he doesn't understand the scriptures.

This commentary from Matthew Henry on Galatians 1:6-9 is very interesting. Verses 6-9 Those who would establish any other way to heaven than what the gospel of Christ reveals, will find themselves wretchedly mistaken. The apostle presses upon the Galatians a due sense of their guilt in forsaking the gospel way of justification; yet he reproves with tenderness, and represents them as drawn into it by the arts of some that troubled them. In reproving others, we should be faithful, and yet endeavour to restore them in the spirit of meekness. Some would set up the works of the law in the place of Christ's righteousness, and thus they corrupted Christianity. The apostle solemnly denounces, as accursed, every one who attempts to lay so false a foundation. All other gospels than that of the grace of Christ, whether more flattering to self-righteous pride, or more favourable to worldly lusts, are devices of Satan. And while we declare that to reject the moral law as a rule of life, tends to dishonour Christ, and destroy true religion, we must also declare, that all dependence for justification on good works, whether real or supposed, is as fatal to those who persist in it. While we are zealous for good works, let us be careful not to put them in the place of Christ's righteousness, and not to advance any thing which may betray others into so dreadful a delusion. (Galatians 1:6-9) I marvel that all of you are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that all of you have received, let him be accursed.

If you thinks so I don't think you understand than what that means

@@ronaldfelix1000 No no, it really does shoot itself in the foot

@@ronaldfelix1000 I'm Catholic period

The thief on the cross had a work. He fulfilled the law in Leviticus 19:17-18 to love your neighbor and rebuke their sins.

@@matthew953 you ignore the fact that there was no 'sacrament'...oh, well, that would destroy your narrative.

@robetheridge6999 I'm not a Catholic. I'm just not disengenuous, so I can clearly tell we need to be obedient to be saved. If you break the 10 commandments with pagan feasts like Xmas/Easter and not keeping the Sabbath, you'll go to the lake of fire.

@@matthew953 so, you're not disingenuous, you are just ignorant. Neither celebration is pagan. Regardless, scripture is clear that salvation is a from believing with the heart Christ was risen from the dead and confessing with the mouth that He is Lord. It is also clear that denying the Holy Spirit is the sin that condemns man to hell.

@robetheridge6999 Yes they are pagan. Bunnies and eggs and Christmas trees have nothing to do with the Messiah. Christ tells the end days churches in Revelation 2:14 to stop eating food sacrificed to idols. It's talking about the pagan feast days they do. So stop listening to liars telling you that God is worshipped in completely pagan ways. You are supposed to worship him how he commands you. Deuteronomy 12:30-32

Excellent exegesis & rebuttal!😇🙏🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

This is all fine, but it's still interpretation of a verbal contradiction which means it is belief in an interpretive "tradition" and not simply what Scripture says. Catholics understand this and that's why we don't claim to follow "Scripture alone." :)

@@DouglasBeaumont Now the Bible is God’s revelation to mankind, it is not a children's story nor a science book. There are going to be things that we don’t understand, but it is a spiritual book and we can only really begin to understand it when we have the Holy Spirit guiding us. For example in the book of Proverbs it says not to answer a fool according to his folly, and then a few verses later it tells us to answer a fool. This may appear to be a contradiction but it is not. Sometimes you need to keep quiet when dealing with a fool and sometimes you need to speak up, it is important to be able to discern which. The real issue behind this problem is one of axioms, by axiom I mean the foundational believes we have when we interpreted the world. These beliefs are not proved but just accepted. It is interesting when listening to people who have different axioms, for example Richard Dawkins has an axiom that “God does not exist” and no matter how close he gets to proving creation when he explains complexity of the natural world he can never make that step. He even goes as far as to say “it looks like it was designed, but obviously this was just the process of evolution other millions of years, so no need for God”. So here we share the axiom of belief in God, but I have an axiom that the Bible is the inherent word of God and so the final authority in all matters. Having read the bible for many years I could present you with many much more difficult passages, which I can not even begin to explain, but I, because of my axiom, just put them in a (big) box of ‘i don’t understand’. I don’t worry about not understanding because I don’t think it’s important as regards to salvation. I don’t think I am missing your point or miss understanding it, I simply don’t agree that I am not just reading this passage plainly, in the light of the rest of scripture.

@@DouglasBeaumont It seems that you are basing everything on a translation, without considering the true underlying Greek text. Interestingly, you complained about proof texting and then went on to base your argument on proof texts. It really does come down to proper exegesis and interpretation based on accurate hermeneutics.

@@johnwilliams1459 How interesting. I'm not sure that what you said solves anything much.

@@joycegreer9391 and you proceeded to make no actual refutes along the way...I mean you could've fooled me

@@joycegreer9391 again If it's wrong I'm expecting a refute Like that's how an "argument" works 🤣🤣 You just saying "oh WelL It'S wROng" isn't an argument to displace anything stated hence the point of asking for your refute Just calling someone wrong is not a good way to come to a proper understanding of our points of view and do show our best way of loving others as Christ would have wanted

Read 1 peter 3v21 about baptism in its context. Read John 6 and see the context. The verses Doug quotes are out of context. The message of the bible revolves around the death and resurrection of Christ. Believe this and that is food for eternal life, not physical food. Jesus said what goes int the mouth goes out the draught. James is just saying if you believe Jesus rose from the dead you will do good rather than evil automatically. The context of what James says is in connection with Rahab believing in the God of Israel, and automatically she received the spies, as a direct result of what she believed.

@@rsk5660 how does 1 peter 3:21 actually change anything? Also no one said anything about the Bible saying anything else besides believing in Christ but you're missing what Christ said you would do if you believe in him Even the Ethiopian minister was baptized by Phillip when he converted add were many others so I'm very confused what was out of context in this video Can you be more specific because I'd truly dislike if you're just trying to pick and choose verses Side note Jesus uses the Literal gnaw when talking about his body being the bread of life and also uses it again during the last supper when telling the disciples to do it in his name and memory of him

@@ghosttheprogram6973 Sometimes when working for a firm, a worker has to wear a uniform. The uniform shows that the worker works for that firm. He is first told that he is employed, then he puts on the uniform. "when you were baptised you put on Christ". When Abraham was circumcised, it was because God asked him to. He was already a friend of God. Circumcision did not bring him into relationship with God. It symbolises the relastionship. Baptism symbolises the relationship we have been brought into when we first believed in Jesus death and resurrection. Cornelius received the holy spirit and was in a relationship with God before he was baptised. A birth certificate says you were born on such a date, but it is not your birth. I'm making a difference between symbols and the real thing. So, in 1 Peter the word figure is used, which could be an indication of figurative language rather than literal. In John 6 Jesus says these things are spiritual. So, he is talking about eating his flesh and drinking his blood in a spiritual way rather than literally. So, at the first supper, the Lord was there in his literal body, and said about the bread, this is my body. I think he was speaking symbolically. When David's friends came back with water from the well at Bethlehem, (1 Samuel 23v17) David would not drink it and said "is not this the blood of them that went in jeopardy of their lives" The water symbolised that the men had risked their lives to get it. The water was not literally the men's blood. Would it not be ridiculous to think the water was literally blood. By knowing these old testament stories, we are then equipped to understand Jesus. To gnaw, just like drink or any other literal word can be understood metaphorically. Jesus does not have to say, this is symbolic of my blood. It is assumed we are to be using our common sense. David did not have to say the water is symbolic of the mens blood, you are supposed to work it out. God does not treat us like toddlers. I was not saying we should not get baptised, I was saying it is symbolic. Hope this is clearer.

Therefore; Sola Fide is false. Deeds and faith go hand in hand

There you go!

Christians follow the teachings of Christ, the word of God who tell us "faith comes from hearing and hearing by the word of God". The only written word of God we have is the bible. Why would one rely on people that came after Christ and the apostles when we have their word. Catholics are free to follow early writings, Christians will stick with God's word.

@@sammygomes7381 both Catholics and Christians prioritize the Bible as the main teaching. But all of us use the Bible plus interpretation since the Bible is not clear on everything, I rather have the interpretations of the earliest church fathers than protestants 2000 years later.

@@nicoparisi8036 Is a protestant one that protests the Catholic church?

Glad to hear it

The bible created the church, not Luther

@James Monroe He didn't start my faith or play any role in why I assemble with other believers (literally "church")

If Protestants had a verse this clear backing up their view and Catholics tried to wriggle out of it the way like this we'd be laughed out of the discussion. I wonder why, if this is so clear, that Luther didn't figure it out. The nice thing about being Catholic is whether this verse refers to initial or progressive justification, the Church is still right.

@@DouglasBeaumont It should be clear enough, we are saved by Grace and not by works. Works are the "fruit" of salvation. I either heard or read somewhere a saying that goes "We do good works not to be saved but because we are saved and they are pleasing to The Father".

So they are required if you're saved? ;)@@katanatac

@@DouglasBeaumont Works will flow from the born again believer as a natural part of the new birth, just as God's law is written on our hearts at the new birth we follow them without even having to think about it just like breathing. A believer that doesn't do anything for The Kingdom should question/examine themselves as Paul said to see if they are in the faith.

The Catholics changed God’s 10 Commandments so I wouldn’t be so proud. Changing those commandments mean you don’t follow God’s word which is a rebellion to God. That is a very dangerous road to go down

@@iamcoffeemug9350 you are saved by grace, the ten commandment were giving to show how good you had to be if living by works but in Jesus it is by faith and grace nothing more ,he paid for it all

@@iamcoffeemug9350 You can’t possibly be serious… this comment is by far the dumbest comment I’ve read in a long while.

@@iamcoffeemug9350 the Catholic never changed the commandments of God this is just paranoia

Better proud to be in Jesus

It's the same word here as in St. Paul. You either did not watch or did not understand the video. I granted - more than once - that Protestants could apply a theological interpretation to these verses that would not contradixt their theology. But that is exactly the problem for Sola Scriptura Protestants. If a direct contradiction can be theologies away, then the real authority is the interpreters theology. This, ironically, is exactly what Sola Scriptura is against. Feel free to try again!

Nah Doug, I did watch the video to the end. And by the way, I am not a Protestant. No label. I just threw this commentary in to get a reaction from you. The problem that many other Christian denominations sees in the Roman Catholic Theology is it's self-proclamation of being the ONLY one that correctly interprets the Bible and furthermore, Roman Catholic formulation of its doctrine of theology derived from its own interpretation of the Bible, are declared true and correct, and therefore, anyone who do not accept it is anathema to them. After all the Council of Trent was meant exactly for that, to declare the Roman Catholic Church the true church founded by the Lord Jesus Christ. Mind you, it's self-declaration. And I don't need to try again Doug you can wallow in your self-belief that you belong to the true Church founded by the Lord Jesus Christ and be puffed-up into believing that you are a "defender of the faith" which is how most Catholics fancy themselves nowadays, and totally ignore the precedence of Scriptures over man's doctrine and really believe that the Roman Catholic is "shoulder to shoulder" with the Bible and to declare that's why Catholics do not rely on Scriptures alone and proud of it. Let me put it in simple terms Doug for you to understand. The Roman Catholic says that the Bible is it's sole source of truth, interprets it and formulate its doctrine, then says; " well now, I am equal with you." Reminds me of someone who said; "I will be like the Most High." So you see Doug, your fate is in your faith.

I’d like to respectfully push back on your suggestion that Paul is rejecting the doctrine of salvation by faith in 1 Corinthians 13. That verse, about having faith to move mountains but no love, in context, is referring to the spiritual gift of faith, not saving faith. In a similar fashion, in the same passage, he also says that you can speak in the languages of men and angels (referring to the spiritual gift of speaking in tongues), but if you don’t have love, you are as useless as a noisy gong. The point of these verses is that you should seek to love others as the priority over seeking specific spiritual gifts such as faith, speaking in tongues, prophecy etc. After all, the point of these gifts is to edify the church body as pointed out in the following chapter (1 Corinthians 14). Therefore, we are defeating the purpose of these gifts if we aren’t using them in love. Again the point of this passage is not to address salvation doctrine as he does in other passages, such as the means by which we are saved (saving “faith” alone versus “faith and works”needed to save.) Rather he is providing guidance on the attitudes they should have regarding spiritual gifts, which should be centered on edifying other believers in the spirit of love. In short, this passage was not intending to address the means of salvation. To be charitable, there may be other scriptures that might lead someone to believe in a works-based salvation, based on their own interpretation methods, but this is clearly not one of them.

@@ElleeZee289 It is written, "There are three things that abide: faith, hope, and love, and the greatest of these is love." If faith without love could save a soul, then faith would be the greatest of these gifts.

@@andrewpatton5114 I’m not really following your train of thought or how you could extrapolate that from the text.

@@andrewpatton5114 again, here in this passage “faith” is not being referred to as the saving faith that is the focus of this video. Faith, here, is a spiritual gift in which the Christian has the gift to believe the extent of God’s will and power to do extraordinary things such as the example, “move a mountain” earlier. Paul is clearly prioritizing love over faith, here. I’m not sure if we are in agreement with this as a starting point and your extrapolating from there? Or if your comment is about the probability of the gift of faith being “the greatest” is some other hypothetical context? Sorry, maybe you can clarify if you would like.

Not to complicate this discussion further but one thing I think we will likely agree with is that saving faith, though id say not spoken about here, is pretty extraordinary. 🥰

It's not about preferences. There is only one truth. Most Holy Family Monastery for more insight on this.

@@stephanusghibellino yeah Jesus didn't found that cult.

A famous actor said I was raised Luteran and My mom used to Say we are catholics that don't want to do the hard work 😅

One difference is that Catholics believe in Transubstantiation, while Lutherans believe in Consubstantiation.

Thanks, you too!

Once you realize the necessity of authority in the faith, Protestantism becomes seriously problematic. Thanks for watching!

I think we use that word "faith" loosely, i.e. "Catholic faith" "Protestant faith". My faith is in Jesus Christ. Believing without seeing.

I do not need any other proof of what awaits me upon death. I’m a sinner and know that my Savior/Jesus died on the cross to save me if I confess my sins. I would never be able to go to heaven if not for him. I only put my faith in him. We as humans cannot think like God thinks.

@Myles Kage Welcome to purgatory fires!

@@DouglasBeaumont *If the authority is corrupt. Than it is not of any value. Think about it this way. The Pharisees were corrupt. But they were the authorities in charge. Jesus rejected their authority since they went against scriptrue. So we are to follow Jesus. Mathew 23 : 23-31 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness. Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, Tnd say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. Matthew 15:7-9 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Mark 7:7-13 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye. So which is the Higher authority? Men in charge. Or Jesus? Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. 2Timothy 3:15-17 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works So if a tradition says the Bible is wrong. You would follow the Tradition and not the Bible?

Glad it helped!

I find it sad that so much of Protestantism seems to rely on anti-Catholic bigotry.

Protestants think unless a person is a protestant, he can't be saved. Having faith is not enough. A person must be a Protestant besides trusting in the finished work of Jesus for salvation. When asked what is faith that saves a person, these protestants will say faith is trust in the saving work of Jesus Christ on the cross; faith is a believe that Jesus died on the cross for your sake and had paid the penalty for all your past, present and future sins. You just have to believe in this and appropriate the free gift of salvation.

Excellent point, Brother! In Catholic-Protestant debates, this point has be highlighted. I make sure to tell my Baptist friends that their Protestant breathen believe in infant baptism AND sola scriptura, so it MUST be in the bible. And it is, but they don t want to accept it. Very sad. Pray for them!

100% I would have more respect if they had the same hate for all 'infringements' of their own Protestant denominations, before they accuse Catholics! But nope, their agenda is garner as many brainwashed people with a standard pamphlet of Romans and Galations passages. And where they sometimes choose to be literal vs where their pastors put any interpretation to a story is just 😮‍💨