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I think the award for the best flight has to go to Simba in his boat. It was particularly impressive due to the fact that on the way to target he actually landed and took off again about a thousand times, and he did the entire flight with his 'haul out' cradle still attached. Well done that man!

That zeppelin must of had a huge radar cross section 😂

The advantage of a biplane is you can land at any speed to avoid a sam network as full speed and landing speed are the same! A missile gets close land to avoid it! A triumph of inadequacy!😄✌️❤️🇬🇧

I have access to an all-wooden rowboat, but rowing for over 100 miles in the desert would be a Herculean task.

Well Cap addressed my concern of no area jamming and I seriously thought Growlers were available on DCS but guess not. Area jamming needs to be included ASAP for realistic strikes, especially from NATO aligned countries that dont attack without it.

when is the next carrier command 2 video coming out

Cap - "We are on the deck right now" A-10 pilot - "what you doing up so high?"

I have pillow with s-400 picture, I beat it punching every day

Could the S-400 prevent Pearl Harbor? The WWII planes' defeat says probably, but maybe the shear number of Zeroes could overwhelm it.

You made me uninstall the whole Far Cry series, so I can play DCS once again. These videos are so much fun. They remind me of the time we were defending the harbor in Navyfield weekly. Brittania rule the waves!

When he said public figures, I thought he meant having some politician go out and say something along the lines of "...tear down this site." 3:42: Just throw Cap in the back of a lifted, souped up F-150, weld an MG to it, and send him in with plenty of Nos. I'm sure he's good enough to make it work. 20:24: Ah, yes, the 9Z9999A Zemlya. The most lethal weapon to have ever existed. 25:47: And the Zemlya again. 26:54: And again. 28:25: Kill #4 for Zemlya 31:21: Its just a normal compass. It'll only work in straight and level, unaccelerated flight. 32:49: WWI engines were lubricated with castor oil. The engines sprayed it all over the place. The pilots were in open cockpits. And castor oil is used as a laxative. Put two and two together. Here's how you beat a Russian S-400: Show up with a hot woman, with a lot of vodka, with dozens of suitcases full of $100 bills seeking to...uh...make a deal.

The type of engine used on many WW1 aircraft was called a rotary engine. They were build similar to radial engines, except that in a radial the pistons cause the crankshaft to rotate, and in a rotary the engine block itself rotates around the crank.

Re. two questions raised by Cap in the vid: @13:30 Re. the "curving" of radar waves vs. light in the atmosphere. This is due to the variation of the index of refraction of water vapor in the atmosphere as a function of altitude. This refractivity effect of water vapor is negligible at optical frequencies (ie. visible light), but is observable at the relatively lower frequencies used by radars. At these frequencies the decrease in the index of refraction of water vapor with altitude results in an increase in the effective speed of propagation of the radar wave, thus a wavefront will travel faster at higher altitudes, and will travel slower at lower altitudes. The net effect is the wavefront "bends" downwards, hence the radar wave "curves" downward. (Refer to Merrill Skolnik "Introduction to Radar Systems", chapter 12 "Propagation of Radar Waves", section 12.4 "Refraction") @19:30 Re. human body RCS. There are several studies that the entire human body has an RCS between around 1 sqm to 0.001 sqm depending on frequency. For example at 1 GHz (i.e. L-band, or around the frequency of the S400 CheeseBoard search radar) the human body has an approximate RCS of 0.01 sqm. While at frequencies between 2-3 GHz and between 4-5 GHz the RCS is on the order of around 1 sqm. At around 9-10 GHz (i.e. getting close to the frequency of the S400 GraveStone track radar) the RCS drops back down to around 0.01 sqm. Of course, a human head sticking out of a cockpit would have an even smaller RCS than the whole body.

TALDs could be effective, even given the 60km range, because they don't have to make it all the way to the target. If they are launched at 105km out, that's 55km where they can suck in interceptors. Launching a TALDs wave prior to the main strike should burn some missiles and make launch sites unmask.

"If generation 5 stealth fighters don't work, it's time to move on to the X-Wing and TIE Star Wars starfighters."

at that height your flying in those string bags, I be looking land mines LOL

"In the Shadow of Earth's curvature" triggering all the flat earthers hard :D

Love this. I think someone should shoddymod a Horten Ho-229. They were all wood except for the engines. Model the control-surface pulley ropes as sinew and I think you might just sneak within MinMissileDist. If the air-inlets were redesigned to be those soggyrhombuses like on the F35 and Su57 and lined the inlet with carbon paper of some other period-correct RAM material, the 229 might give it a go. Ooh, I know: Stealthy bombs aren't stealthy if they are hanging off the wings. To use the existing airframe and still have a stealthy performance as a bomber, fill the landing gear/tires with tannerite and put little plunger switches on the landing gear frame so they won't arm prematurely. Herr Air Marshall doesn't mind if his pilots land on a skid, ala the Komet 163... just slap some palate wood under there and land the first batwing toboggan. Come on. Give a Ho a chance!!

SA 400 over performs in DCS, you could say that about the stealth aircraft. I don't think you can gauge it's effectiveness in Ukraine, as Ukraine does not fly that many sorties and we do not know how many SA 400 are deployed or were to. I note a growing trend were NATO overestimates Russian weapons to get more money and then downplays them through the media. You have to be careful analysing anything coming out of Ukraine. I saw an article in a UK tabloid claiming a stinger shot down an su34 during a low level pass but the Ukrainian troops had Verba manpads and said they used a verba. No doubt the stingers are effective but to draw conclusions you need all the facts.

I have a feeling this will be awesome :D

If you want a really crazy radar... look up the "woodpecker" which I believe is not far from Chernobyl and no longer usable. The physics for that one are amazing.

Ah ha ha, thanks for the doing the WW1 planes, that was pretty cool.

Marinated itself into the ground - omg too funny!

The explanation for the curving or radar over the horizon is due to a phenomenon known as refraction (waves bending around the edge of a solid barrier). Radar waves from an emitter of lower frequency (and longer wavelength, wavelength = wave speed / frequency) curves or refracts better at the edge than those of a shorter wavelength, and so longer wavelength radars (such as search radars) can refract better around the curvature of the earth than the shorter wavelength of tracking radars. Tracking radars tend to use shorter wavelengths and higher frequencies, because the shorter the wavelength of the radar, the more accurately you can localise the return signal's position in space. However, a longer wavelength radar tends to be less susceptible to scattering and attenuation from stealth technology. A search radar return might tell the operator that something is out there, but without the returns from a tracking radar, it might not know exactly where it is. There are limitations to what can be done, as the physical dimensions of the radar system (particularly antennae and waveguides) need to be of a scale similar to the wavelength (more accurately half of the wavelength - a waveguide can only support half-wavelengths at or less than it's longer cross-sectional dimension. Above this, the propagation of the wave is strongly attenuated or absorbed. This is called the waveguide cut off), so shorter wavelength, lower frequency radars need dimensionally larger components, which lead to designs such as the giant "Woodpecker" antenna that one of the other commenters mentioned for the old Soviet early warning radar.

“… a little bit frustrating…” I feel you there cap

I was hoping the Warbirds would have been a little more viable, because then you could try a modern analog for them. The A-29B Super Tucano would be like flying a warbird but with modern weaponry. It would also get clapped just as hard as the warbirds did, though, I suspect.

How many S-400 battalions are in this scenario? In a typical conventional conflict with Russia, the average S-400 system would be comprised of at least 8-10 launchers, where each system at most contains 2 (commonly just one) battalions. Unless you’re attack Moscow and they’ve consolidated all their anti-air assets, you’d be hard pressed to find more than 3 battalions co-located in the same AO

More cowbell! I mean more cows. Cow bombs, air-launched cow missiles, hypersonic cows…

The longer wavelength of radar (microwaves) allows it to follow the curvature of the earth whereas the shorter wavelengths of visible light don’t curve so much. Radio waves are even longer and they curve even more; they will even follow rivers. The radio beacon detectors in aircraft can give a false heading if near rivers.

I feel Simba should be renamed Timba (timber) when he is flying the yacht This would be the ideal task for the blackburn buccaneer, the only reason that they couldn't fly lower is because the ground got in thee way.

Great death sequence - I spat beer Cap!

Cap was thinking, "The sand, it’s coarse and rough and irritating… and it gets everywhere." while 2 meters off the deck in a WW1 aircraft inbound to the target.

I wonder if older gen super sonics could outpace the algorithms and cause them to lose solution and self-defeat, don't know if that's how it works, but it seems like speed really effects the firing solutions.

Man that suck's, you guy's were so close. I was rooting all the way. So ok, I know this is crazy but how about all wooden gliders being released from a high altitude? I know, how would you even get them there, but you guy's are the experts and think great out the box. Good luck with the next one.

Mosquito, in full de Havilland DH-98 Mosquito, British twin-engine two-seat mid-wing bomber aircraft that was adapted to become the prime night fighter of the Allies during World War II. The Mosquito had a frame of wood and a skin of plywood

Outstanding!

Over 30 years ago, the USAF played with an F-15 with wood wings for stealthiness. It didn't work too well I guess, because the only one fitted with the wings sat in a hangar at Sheppard AFB.

@Cap a thought on the deploying of "spec ops scenario"... what if the brief called for you to fly an aircraft capable of deploying the special ops unit within a certain range of the target, and dropping the units off to theoretically perform a ground assault on the S400, allowing you to call it a "hit".

I just got done watching Top Gun Maverick and I can not wait for you guys to recreate the main mission as well as the dogfights.

That's just what the B2 test pilot said to us: "Falling off your bed when you are flying low really doesn't help."

So the best way of dealing with this is to get a WW1 biplane out of a museum, land 10 miles off-site, get out and walk in with a machine gun and finish the job? what a brilliant hollywood movie that would make!

That F-35 cockpit looks NOTHING like the real one. Even battlefield somehow got that pretty accurate

Poor Violet she was either going to die by an S 400 or the tail gunner gunner in simba's boat.

The Mosquito was the only WW2 era plane to be made of wood.

Park an EC-130H Compass Call stand-off jamming aircraft in the area. I've heard stories about them blacking out entire ranges at Red Flag and being asked politely to 'bugger off' so that both sides systems start working again 😁👍

That was a Michael Bay quality crash in that I-16 Cap

The way to beat an advanced IADS Network is force it to expend all the ordinance on cheap expendable targets... like high-time F-16s that are ready to be scrapped out anyway. F-16s fly-by-wire system makes them the easiest old fighter jet to convert to an expendable drone. With a dummy pilot in the cockpit, they'd be indistinguishable from real strike aircraft even at close range.

To add to the Growler suggestion, there is a Super Hornet/Growler mod that sits atop the normal F/A 18C module for DCS. I for one would absolutely love to see you guys do something with the F/A 18F (My favorite model of the F18)

I-16 is incorrectly modelled, the quality of the cabin glass is way too clear and the engine is not spitting oil on it.

Wikipedia makes no mention of ir detectors but does say Pantsir is capable of totally passive operation. Normally it's missiles are radar guided.

Where is Carrier Command 2 series i have been waiting all week for it!

I recently asked if you have any videos of older / outdated aircraft attacking more state of the art planes bases ect... you never answered but thats not an issue. Happy to see something along those lines pop up !!! Normally yall smash in your videos i wonder if you all ever bite the bullet and do a video thats a pain to win 🤔 😅

+GrimReapersAtomic *I'd bet my money on the F-35 alpha strike, had I dollars to wager.* The WW1 birds, invisible down to on or about the same range as the F-35's, will be torn apart by either the 57E6-E SAMs, each of which is (for practical purposes) basically an R-74M on a booster, or the 2A38M autocannons (30x165mm) carried on the antiair radar trucks. I cannot rule out MANPADS battalions packing the 9K338 (ASIC: SA-24 Grinch-A) as a last line of defense.

Again, if using public data, the Nebo-M radar would see the F-35 at 50 miles (flat terrain). This is because of physics - stealth shaping on fighter-sized targets is useless against VHF frequencies and the F-35 can't carry the weight of enough radar absorbent materials (unless they invented some physics bending, super lightweight coating - in which case they'd coat every asset they have with it). That said, an F-35 can still destroy the S-400 with a GBU-39, launched from 40 miles at 36 kft (provided the Pantsirs don't shoot the munition down)... but the F-35 gets shot down by the S-400 before it can escape ('cause it's slow). Unlike the F-22, which can actually escape.

You only need a pretty slow Bayraktar TB2 to take out both S400 and Panzir.

For the next ww2 warbird vs modern guided missile video try the Hawker Hurricane. A wooden construction fighter like the Mosquito that should have a small rcs.

Not sure but I think the old blimps were painted with Aluminum paint. So they would light up a radar screen.

I'm not sure how well it is modelled in DCS but when it comes to the radars of the S-400 they are not particularly well adapted to detecting a stealth target especially a small stealth target the Big Bird is NATO F band (IEEE S Band) The Cheese Board is NATO E Band (IEEE S band still) and the Grave Stone is NATO G/I band (IEEE C amd X band) for its search and illumination modes respectively. The end result is all three radars operate at the frequencies The F-35 is best optimized to be stealthily against. Both the F-22 and F-35 are optimzed for the 2-60GHz range through their RAM and physical shape. Once the radar wavelength becomes larger than the shapes can redirect however you are stuck with just the RAM and it too is less efficient at absorbing a longer wavelength. The B-2 meanwhile due to being significantly larger is much more stealthy in the face of long wavelength radars. By most accounts the B-2 is more stealthy on A band radar than an F-35 is on F Band radar. RCS does not mean everything. At closer ranges this becomes largely irrelevant so yeah the S-400 absolutely should have seen you at maybe ~25nmi To detect small stealthy targets (small being fighter airframe not rcs) you want a low band radar something A-C band. That's why the Tall rack system has an A band (VHF) antenna. Some solid candidate systems if this behavior is modelled correctly Rezonans-N 59N6 Protivnik-GE P-19 Ideally the modernized Kasta 2E2 version 5N69 Big Back (actually a D band so not as good but is a monster transmitter so it has a fair shot) 1L13-3 Nebo SV... All Nebo variants are usable but this one is the least likely as it is 80s vintage 22Zh6 Tin Trap 55Zh6M Tall Rack VHF antenna 55Zh6M Tall Rack L Band D Band (IEEE L Band) Antenna 55ZH6-1 Nebo UYe Oh and a human will show up on radar. Since we are mostly water we, as well as all living things, are nearly as reflective to radar as metal

I don't know if the WW1 planes and zeppelin were really necessary...but it sure was entertaining. :)

So at the briefing I noticed two things. 1 is the total probability of having enough grunts or just really good grunts on the ground being the solution. 2 I didn't see any mention of a guided bomb being dropped from 110k feet at Mach 3.2 😂. For real though grunts on the ground would be the solution one way or another I think. Whether they did it themselves or gave the targeting. Too bad nobody has any there officially. I guarantee you if uncle Sam or the good old queen and country HAD to take out that Sam site it would be quick work 👍

Technically you can give the BK's a target waypoint on the fly using the ground radar display, but trying to operate that thing while weaving between treetops and dodging missiles seems pretty doomed.

Re Ground Units to attack the SAMs, You'd probably have to do it in ARMA :)

Thought Cap you would have interjected when the airship was hit and crashed with the immortal words Oh the humanity!!!!

You know it's really weird that in VR the pilot heads are missing. Creepy that when you look over at the mossie navigator and there he is, minus head and neck

Cap, it’s the propeller that causes their radar cross section, most of the propellers have leading edge metal protection from FOD and it’s pointed at the radar at almost 90*, think about having a glow stick and spinning it around fast, the little strip might as well be a solid disk of metal 6-8 feet across, same with high bypass turbofans. Also, size doesn’t matter to radar, the beam that hits you is a straight line, the shape of the object will reflect the same amount of radiation if it’s 2 feet or 200 feet across, since the receiver is miles away and tiny changes will send the radar all over the place so as long as the shape is the same, the radiation return is the same regardless of size.

Drone and UCAV swarm.....a really REALLY big one.

When you do The Air Ship VS AC-130 it'd be cool if you include The Boat Plane in a couple fights! Zeppelin and Boat Plane VS AC-130 lol you should try and hit the AC-130 with bomb's from the Boat Plane!😆👍

I don't think the F-35 being completely invisible is accurate, but I do think their RCS is low enough to execute a successful strike on an S-400. It's more or less what they were designed to do. Do SEAD and other strike missions in threat environments older non-stealth aircraft can't survive in.

Also, Top Gun: Maverick out this weekend! I'm going to go see it Saturday. Excite!

I reckon the mosquitoes might be OK if if flies low enough bot the WW1 kites being wood and fabric and so slow will have a better chance.

Hey Cap, probably not in DCS in regards to jamming. But could you do something like the Vulcans in operation Sky Shield in the 60s? Where the main force of bombers are fully on a jamming and confusion mission to protect to main bomber? Likely the s-400 would be smart enough for this type of attack but would an interesting attack of jamming capabilities vs s-400.

Violet drinking to many mojitos in that mosquito

What about a squadron of attack helicopters? They can fly super low and REALLY take advantage of terrain. Also, can you have stealthy spotters that light up targets for the attack helicopters to launch missiles at from nearby cover? Does DCS support that sort of thing? (And don't some helos have their sensors up on a mast so the rest of the helo is behind cover? All you need is a halfway decent hill or building or reasonably dense stand of trees and it might work? (Have never played DCS but played a ton of GUNSHIP and LHX back in the late 80s).

The thing is that you could probably do this and just use like a handheld gps and satellite phone and have the navigation pretty much what most modern planes have, lol

i think zeppelins filled with helium and equipped with modern awac radar, attack missiles, anti missile and c-ram would be super effective in war today

Great video cap 👍 But remember that no stealth aircraft in the world is gonna be completely invisible to radar. Specially modern systems like S-400 can easily detect stealth bombers over a range of more than 50-70 miles or even more😉

13:24, it's because of the much larger wavelength!

Now we need to know Cap's rcs xD

If wood planes were actually stealth, then we wouldn't have spent billions on making metal planes stealth. There would be a weird combination of both modern and old planes in today's airforces. I'd imagine, wooden drones would be made too. So yeah, wood's obviously not worth making planes out of. But hey, if I'm wrong, bring on the wooden drones.

Hmmm, are there any drone mods for dcs?

"You are the last starfighter" 😂

How deep is the magazine for the S-400? The USAF strike seemed to feature a Hollywood Six Shooter level of missiles coming from the S-400s.

Cap, you don't have to get within 60 miles with the decoys. The IADs has no idea what range or target the decoys are attacking. The IADS would respond well before 60 miles, well launch them at 100 miles and send them in waves to overwhelm the site, because they are going to shoot at the closest targets first.

are those s-400 part of dcs or community made?

ww1 and certainly ww2 planes should have quadripled numbers so you should go in with at least 20 planes next time. Get some volunteers lol

I think if you replaced the rigging on those biplanes with kevlar you might be OK. The steel wires probably work like antennas and give an RCS 10x bigger than the plane 😂 Also I'm pretty sure they used a dope containing aluminium powder on those airships so...

Cap, are there no ITALD’s in the game? When I was in the Marines, we would use TALDS and ITALD’s on the F-18’s. I was a 6541 aviation ordnance technician so I got to play with all the cool weapons the birds would use.

All those guy wires on WW1 airplanes might make them quite visible on radar but I'm guessing they'll be dead meat for the guns if they get past the missiles.

Remember that winwing technology is your ultimate hardware solution :) 159

If I understand the red Barron's plane was either on or off , no throttle control.

For future attacks, B-52's with cruise missiles all targeting the northern most SAM site. This will draw all attention but might keep some sites from firing because they are too far away. Then the B-2's sneak in and drop their missile/bombs then run away. This bomb load/missile attack against the western most sam site. Jets come in from the north, HARM the northern most sam site and western most same site. Then proceed all in to the main target, all Harm at once, get in and bomb. Should time this with the most of the cruise missiles and bombs from B-2. Concentrate all attacks against those two sam sites which push their radars and missile launches further back.

yes i think the pilot does reflect radiation. watched an interview with an engineer on the f117 program those triangle shapes on the edges of the cockpit glass he mentioned that its to deflect and prevent radar from entering the cockpit and reflecting back from the cabin and the pilot

It’s a great day!

The mosquitoes collided on takeoff? That sucks .

it would be nice to see what a Horton 229, or a YF 23 would do in a scenario like this

That last couple of miles! I thought Cap had it made, inside that S400's minimum effective range...and then smoke & flames and what appeared to be a rather talentless Boy Scout Woodburning Demonstration....😂😅🤣

"Use tractors" hahaha

0.00000...1m2 RCS values can be real in the lab, but certainly unreal in field. These numbers are probably the best they could acheive for specific angle and radar frequency on brand new jet.

Quick question, i can only find the F35 mod for version 2.5 and it doesnt work, is there a new version maybe? If no what am i doing wrong that it doesnt work?