Unfortunately, that is so true. They don’t protect the ones that need to protection but yet they’ll take away children that don’t need it. Something is wrong with the system. Some Foster care, parents abuse the children too, they do nothing about that too😢

Frequently, nation wide

Actually worse. They then put the children in foster care with a rate of abuse higher than the normal public.

That's EXACTLY what they do .

Yes, now you understand how it works.

Yep, & they - CPS/DCFS - damn well know that by them waking that 3 yr old in the middle of the night & taking him, he will have SEVERE trouble sleeping all his life, PTSD, & most likely a very hard time healing from the trauma of that.

It does And needs to stop

NO PAPERWORK.

@@playhooky I’m a veteran NOT HAPPENING u will not be leaving with my child?! NO PAPERWORK?! DEFINITELY NOT get off my porch!!!!

Reminds me of trafficking

I stand for the placenta because I came in hell Jesus style and my teachers didn't even believe I was related to my brother or sister unfortunately it doesn't even matter in our situation because there is only room for one woman's attitude per house regardless of birth style considering Timothy's daughters were all set to walk the streets with broken noses and I bought my daughter a house because she wanted to be a teacher not a plumber like her mother was forcing on her. Women get all the feelings or support so I was destroyed once for not allowing my daughter to be used as a Ritalin guinea pig and when everyone was worried about my step sons penos size I was worried about his osgood-schlatter.

The children have MMA for a representative

Science says overpopulation is the issue therefore the vagina is the biggest weapon of mass destruction on the planet.

Do you know why? Down here in Texas they’re forcing the kids into Seggs work. The ones that look healthier can make more money

So true

Yeah. Except there will be no consequences for the perps, who will continue the same pattern.

I hope all involved get JAIL TIME

Yep..good luck to them

Apart from Justfied Externants CIrcimstances were there is Direct Evidence & Serious concern for other childrens welfare as in the Frank Childrens case.. there was no Warrent or paperwork but their was the Physical evidence & testimony of R,F the boy who escaped!! And Cops did enter & Search Jodie Hildebrants house due to life & death & concern for other childrens welfare.

That’s a trans child that is in danger! The state is doing the right thing! Lock the parents up now! 🏳️‍🌈🇺🇦🇵🇸🏳️‍⚧️

Actually, that is what qualified immunity does. It's really difficult to hold an individual with qualified immunity responsible for his or her actions.

Boy you know if itd been a government officials kid that immunity stuff would slide, they'd say you have the obligation to yourself and the community to not act on illegal orders. soldiers don't have to obey orders to kill they just have to understand that their beliefs can land them in prison. if a commanding officer gives you an order that's illegal its your obligation to not follow that, this is an over used trope but the nazis were just following orders they said, doesn't mean its ok...

It’s qualified immunity not blanket immunity. The qualification is that it’s something done in the commission of duties. Going rogue and taking a child without paperwork or orders is outside of their duties.

@@emem2863 No, actually it isnt, but they like to make you *think* it is. these people could have shot those cops legally.

@@DellikkilleD Most people who shoot a cop coming into their home end up in prison, even when the cops don't announce themselves or show up at the wrong house.

They had the right to use force. Those cops were exactly kidnappers.

It was stupid to open the door. It was even more stupid to talk to them.

The laws in most places allow DCFS to come, without a warrant, litterly bust into your home and take the kids with no cause other than their suspension. They have the authority to violate constitutional rights and are protected from arrest or lawsuit under qualified immunity, which basically protects public workers like police, fire, ems, ect from being sued for actions taken during the normal course of their duties. DCFS hides behind laws designed to protect first responders like the cowards are.

​@adrielburned6924 open the door, not really an option, they will get in one way or another and do have the authority to do so. Talking to them, yes. NEVER speak to DCFS without a lawyer.

I feel nothing for them OR their kids. Why exactly did they let it happen to begin with????

They don’t care about the children. They put them in danger. It’s kidnapping!!! They laugh in parents faces bc they get to do whatever they want. I’m sick of them!

This is just horrifying, so sorry! Those precious first months together destroyed.

Why did they test you in the first place?? Sounds like a scam to me. They are trying to make money off of taking kids away from good parents

100 “child attracted” demons ( cant say the real word sadly” that take babies and small children to use them Since they cant tell the stories of what they went through or who did it to them

Dear God this is sickening. Im so sorry this happened to you and your baby.

Right?! Nabokov’s Bend Sinister should be required reading for all Americans.

They do not care. Something else is going on here and it's about money and punishment.

Indeed!!

No doubt they'd grow up with mental issues from it

Poor parents? Nobody uses common sense anymore? The 3 year old had an almost healed broken rib! Imagine how much pain he had, and the parents didn't take him for a check-up? I thank the police they acted! Possible that the parents don't know how it happened so I'm not claiming child abuse but this is definitely child neglect!

@@timmytee734 You are wrong. These look to me like loving parents. If a rib breaks and snaps back into place there is not necessarily any pain. That happened to a friend of mine.

@@Messier45_Pleiades It's not possible to not to have pain with a broken bone. Our body is designed to have pain. It's a signal for you to pay attention. What do you mean by 'snapped back'? If it was broken to that degree, there's no way he could had walked like everything is normal. Also grown ups don't jump, run and roll on the floor like 3 year olds! I'm sure your friend was in pain but ignored it. He can do that as a grownup. But not taking a child for a check-up? I applause the police to act. They should have done it with a warrant though.

@@timmytee734 You are wrong, but I'll leave it at that.

Unfortunately,empathy and, discernment are not easily “trained “ into people. Especially people who would work in this horrible fashion…a truly awful thing to have happened!

And why not face the charge, prove legally that you were in the right and restore your reputation instead of claiming immunity and running away from the situation which just makes you look more guilty?

@@ivaneames4354 Qualified immunity means agencies are held responsible for the orders they give. But since there was no warrant, it doesn't apply in this case.

Cause there criminals

Well they don’t have immunity, in fact a certain ruling party enjoys immunity almost exclusively lol

With all the human trafficking and child smuggling that has been rampant..it makes you wonder…

@@annieberardino8732A Georgia state senator and her husband were murdered for her investigating human trafficking in their state’s CPS. So, yeah, it exists. Probably more often than too many of us can guess.

Kidnapping and child trafficking. They literally gave the child to "emergency foster parents" which in this case is just giving a kidnapped child to a stanger for 0 reason. Also known as TRAFFICKING.

What is this “qualified immunity” …?

@@letiziapassanisi9967 qualified immunity is an immunity provided to state/government officials so that when they break the law and are prosecuted, it basically says if what they did was reasonable or ought to be seen as generally reasonable conduct they should have immunity from civil court claim. Illegally raiding a home at 1AM to steal children without court order is not reasonable. It was highly illegal. Felony level crimes were committed against this family.

​@@letiziapassanisi9967 I'm glad you asked. It's a little hard to explain, and the law in this area is a bit complicated, but Qualified immunity is a legal doctrine invented by the Supreme Court that prohibits lawsuits against government officials for violating your constitutional rights unless a federal appellate court in the same circuit has _previously_ ruled in a previous case with identical facts, that the exact behavior by those government officials was unconstitutional. This doctrine allows cops and other government officials to get away with the most outrageous behavior simply because such behavior hadn't previously been disapproved by a federal appellate court in the same circuit in which the current case is pending. The cruel irony is that the worse the police misconduct, the more likely it's protected by Qualified Immunity, because it's less likely to have previously occurred and therefore less likely to have been specifically prohibited by a prior federal appellate court ruling. As a result, you have cases like _Jessop v. City of Fresno_ (2019), where several police officers were accused of *_stealing_* over $225,000 in cash and rare coins from a homeowner, and the resulting lawsuit was thrown out because there had not been any prior appellate court rulings saying that *_theft_* by police officers in the course of searching a person's home was unconstitutional. I kid you not. This is what's wrong with Qualified Immunity and is why it needs to be abolished. It's unjust, un-American, and it defies common sense. The Cato Institute has a series of informative articles on Qualified Immunity, if you're interested. Just do an internet search for "Cato Institute Qualified Immunity". Then contact your congressperson and senators and tell them to abolish Qualified Immunity.

@@letiziapassanisi9967 Qualified immunity is a judge-created rule that protects government officials, including police officers, when they are sued. The doctrine holds that officials who violate other people’s constitutional rights can only be held responsible if there exists a previous court decision, with very similar facts, that resulted in other officials being held accountable. 😁✌️❤️ In this case them not law enforcement but u get the idea

​@@letiziapassanisi9967 It's a court invented idea that government employees have to be shielded from accountability for violating rights, if those rights havent been clearly established, because otherwise they would be paralyzes from doing their jobs out of fear of accountability..... which is a tacit admission that it is literally impossible for them to do their jobs properly

Timothy, Mathew and Daniel couldn't survive the Jesus trades so they resorted to killing the men for a paycheck from Elon.

Men

I stand for the placenta because I came in hell Jesus style and my teachers didn't even believe I was related to my brother or sister unfortunately it doesn't even matter in our situation because there is only room for one woman's attitude per house regardless of birth style considering Timothy's daughters were all set to walk the streets with broken noses and I bought my daughter a house because she wanted to be a teacher not a plumber like her mother was forcing on her. Women get all the feelings or support so I was destroyed once for not allowing my daughter to be used as a Ritalin guinea pig and when everyone was worried about my step sons penos size I was worried about his osgood-schlatter.

@@applesocks89 you don't have any of those

Good watches have capacitors not batteries unfortunately God is for lithium miners to blame for California falling into the ocean 🙏.

Yep, like the huge bunch of kids that got abused by their parents and when finaly it came out were put in foster care and some were abused there... as i remember one worker told one of the abused kids "what are the odds you got abused by your parents and your foster family? Be greatfull and shut up".. maybe not those words, but you get what i mean.

Without proper paperwork, it is *NOT* legal, they just happen to wear uniforms or have jobs where they think that they do not have to follow due process. Those cops should have told the worker(s), no paperwork, we aren't backing you, and if you try, we will arrest *YOU* for break and enter and attempted kidnapping. You know, due process, enforcing laws, all that stuff that is *SUPPOSED* to happen.

More like illegal kidnapping.

If they didn't have the court order to take the kids then it wasn't legal kidnapping. Also the case was open and they were investigating. Which is what should happen. But you have to wait for the investigation to finish before you're taking people away..

Laws are different in every state. In Utah, for instance, if there are "exigent circumstances" you don't need a search warrant. Believing a child is in danger would count as that. My opinion is I would rather they err on the side of child protection, but I haven't followed this case to know enough about it.

I'm in Canada, but it is the same. They took my exes kids (before we were married) over made up stuff the judge ate up with a spoon despite catching the social worker lying in court, gave him a verbal minimal warning and carried on listening to his made up stories. Meanwhile, the guy next door had his kid by the throat off the ground against a wall in front of a worker, and all they did was offer *more help* and let it continue. Oh, I forgot to mention, I was even accused of child sexual abuse and was interrogated for hours with the lawyer having to remain in the hallway. Eventually, we offered a polygraph, and after a long wait, it turns out they didn't even have enough so-called evidence to even make up polygraph questions!! The one officer *still* had to make parting shots about the file never going away. Moron...

my mom got her degree in social work and after doing her volunteer time in her final year she finished up her degree knowing she wasn't going to use it. She had worked with dept of children's services for a few months getting to know things and she realized this was not what she wanted to be involved with and that was back 25 years ago... can't imagine what its like now.

I really hope they have a great lawyer. They need MILLIONS. I want to see these people living in a mansion after the abuse and harassment they got.

It’s by design. They’re not there to help

Don’t know. They don’t kids who are abused. Or even parents who are transitioning kids. Which is also abuse.

That's America for you.

He was not injured he had fever and the chest x-ray showed an old healed rib fracture.

They did NOT take the child for care when he was injured.

​​@@krisbaker9427your comment makes no sense he wasn't injured they don't know how it happened they did not abuse him. You're part of the problem if you believe that.

and the parents lied about they did not know about it.

"Supposedly"

We dont have common sense we've slowly been more and more enslaved and dont even notice till our number is called

This was a hard one. If child died in custody on parents that night you would say why didn’t DCF take the kids.

@@cgpcgp3239 I completely agree I just think that there’s parents out there that are completely incompetent that just slipped through the cracks. I sometimes feel like they focus on the wrong parents

​​@@cgpcgp3239but why did they wait till 1:00 am??? If its emergency, why did they not come earlier that day?!

And parents. Imagine needing to always be on the alert because monsters want to hurt your children. 😢 I thought as humans we conquered the world to keep our children safe.

It’s straight up communistic

Someone was probably diddling them

cops don't give a rat's ass about the law.

No one. There were no orders signed by a judge in this case. That's why the parents are suing and why the police and CPS workers do NOT qualify for immunity

Good point. If either of this parents had pulled out a gun when they answered the door like the average person (because who knocks at 1 am accept robbers.) They probably would have been shot by the police. 😢

@@lillianroselfhopefully they would survive and collect a very very fat settlement

I know...​@lillianroself

@@lillianroself This is how things used to be in slave nations. America doesn't have citizens anymore. It has subjects and government with the only in-between being the top 1% of earners. (On the bright side atleast you can still buy freedom if you keep your head low and reach that 1% mark.)

That's America for you.

Girl I’m a GROWN WOMAN and I’ve fractured my foot just tripping on stuff on the floor. Broken bones are a part of living life.

@@randomperson5817 it definitely sucks!! This baby who was 4 months old who had the broken rib, there’s a chance the child can be suffering from brittle bone disease. Just picking up someone, just moving the body can and will snap bones. Ribs are more common fractures in babies with this with arms and legs right behind. The parents next step would be making an appointment with their child’s pediatrician to see what is going on, and get some blood work done as the child could be lacking some sort of protein or another form that can cause his bones to fracture.

It's always the people that crumple like wet paper that are the loudest about what they'd do to government.

Thank you... my thoughts exactly.

And after a long standoff you get arrested or get shot, and you don’t see your kid anyway.

Agreed. When I was still in K-12 more than 30 years ago, there were several obvious cases of physical and emotional abuse going on that I myself as a 13-17 year old reported to the police yet nothing was done. In two of those cases, the child in question ended up seriously and permanently injured before the police intervened and I was interviewed by the police as to "How did I know that there was abuse going on?" I didn't mince words: The physical abuse was obvious because the kids had 'strange' bruises on them that they said came from 'falling down the stairs' (a red flag when anyone says that) and the emotional abuse was obvious because the kids were always acting like scared rabbits thinking that someone was going to hit them.

Don’t let them take your second amendment.

Time to shut them down!!

Keep him away from the knives ... just in case

Qualified Immunity doesn't apply in this case. And it's a good thing because it means agencies are held responsible for what they give orders to individuals to do.

They didn't even actually have qualified immunity because they acted without authorization.

4 States have already ABOLISHED QUALIFIED IMMUNITY. IM IN ONE OF THEM WHO NEEDS THIS SHIT SHOW OF CPS STOPPED!

DCF and organizations like it, along with law enforcement agencies are nefarious. Americans have allowed and embraced this because of their great interest in and "concern" for minors.

You are absolutely correct

Unfortunately, sometimes the doctors are just as tied up in the law. Years ago my dad examined a little kid and found he had what is well known as a toddler’s fracture, nicknamed as such because it happens ALL THE TIME to kids in the toddler stage. But since the parents didn’t know what happened and their excuse as to how it probably could have was something that absolutely WOULDN’T cause that kind of fracture, Dad was forced to report it - much to his ire and frustration. He didn’t want to, he knew it was nothing, but his job was quite literally on the line if he didn’t and it pissed him off. Dad actually testified on the parents’ behalf in court, got the whole thing thrown out. Waste of everyone’s time he said, and I agree

@@pikabolt5196 Your Dad sounds like a great man and I wish we had more like him in the medical field. However, many today are bought off and owned by pharmaceutical companies tied up on our own tyrannical Government and no longer care about the people.

Yup!!

No, the hospital staff did the right thing -- it's not their job to investigate possible child abuse, but to record health records and report possible abuse to the relevant authorities to be investigated. Obviously someone dropped the ball in this case, but just because the government investigators put their foot in it doesn't mean that the private hospital should take the fall for them.

@@MM-jf1me I strongly disagree. The medical field needs a massive reform anyway.

The younger u are when u have separation from parents (abandonment, rejection is easily perceived by fetus in utero & pre-verbal children bc their entire life depends on mom) the harder it is as u get older. Rejection can become a constant theme. I FIRMLY believe the overreach of child 'protection' services & the devastation caused by family court system is an intentional manipulation designed to cause trauma. A traumatized society is much easier to control. Traumatized ppl want to be rescued, want to feel secure. They want MORE laws & they'll even give up the right to their own bodies, look what happened in 2020.

Yes.

nah

@@user-pp8ic9jo7n alright buddy I’m coming for you next 🧛‍♂️

They took my granddaughter from school without telling her why. Put her in foster care without the family knowing anything. Haven't seen her in a year. Now ready to terminate her Moms custody. They now said she is a he. Many other lies. I believe they are going to traffic her and no one is helping. I'm going insane from all the court hearings. I'm not past doing something to stop the insanity of these people.

😢🫂🙏

i' am so sorry for your cousin. I'm praying for her piece of mind and an angels backbone with the perseverance of a warrior. In Jesus name. Amen

It's EVIL..

They lie to everyone!

@Eanwe, I do not understand why DCF decided to take the parents' children away when they did nothing wrong. So, could you explain this to me? Thank you; I greatly appreciate it. Also, is it illegal for DCF to take your child(ren) at 1 a.m. without any prior notice or paperwork?

Yes it is more EVIL THEN IVE EVER KNOWN. TIME TO FIGHT BACK FOR THE KIDS.

Four States have taken Qualified immunity away from the ones who Abused it. Police , social workers etc...Colorado is one state.

VERY good point. The medical professionals didn't check the kid for any underlying causes that may make his bones more fragile, or pain responses did they? The medical staff IMMEDIATELY assumed it was the parents without doing their job of looking for health complications of the child. 😢 Sad. Kid could be living with a debilitating illness and not know it yet. 😢 Super sad. Lady takes her kid to the hospital to understand his health better, instead hospital staff did not do that job, but instead start the process to separate your family due to misinformation based on assumptions, and a lack of information. I'm not sure what's more sad, that this happened to this family, 😢 or that the hospital staff stopped doing their job of helping individuals with their health to separate families like this. 😢😢😢

@@lillianroselfoften its a geneticist that figures it out

That’s what I was thinking. This child needs a good diagnostician to figure out his medical problem sooner rather than later. But after this experience, the parents will be reluctant to trust doctors. I don’t blame them for considering abuse as a possibility with an unexplained fracture, but it’s certainly not the only possibility, and it sounds like they considered no options except for abuse.

@@amystern123it couldn't be nothing, just a freak thing, but an underlying condition definitely needs to be looked into

Doctors need to be trained on what a shit show calling CPS can become for the parents. Think twice and think thrice before doing it.

If only it was so simple. They don't need a warrant to take your kids, and your refusal to consent to a search gives them probable cause to do the search anyway. It's absolutely messed up.