And you can also bet that my butt is coming out of the house to see what in the world is happening on my freaking yard, instead of hiding in the house and never coming out….. That was crazy to me. Defense had me impressed. The way Jackson dismantled Flamatti’s testimony was awkward, shocking and amazing to watch all at once.

@@LanaK83that part!!!

exactly

But what if you had bruises on your face? A cut lip. maybe? Your knuckles all bashed in, you had little to none sleep, and you couldn't believe what you did a few hours ago? Would you go outside and meet the police you work with??

Edge of the lawn near the road after someone on the scene had said what the cause of the victim’s death was in her confession. ⚖️

Oh, I know it!

Exactly this

I think it’s not written down because it was so obvious. If everyone sees it’s raining no one bothers to write down it’s raining. No one expected her to suddenly say I did not do it! I think it’s more interesting why she didn’t say “THE ALBERTS did it! Please investigate that house and everyone in it.” She said nothing of that sorts which makes me wonder why she didn’t….. if she knew it was them!

She wasn’t there. She has no idea what happened. He was 100% in that house. Her statements can also be interpreted in terms of her, leaving him there at the house while she went home.. if she hadn’t left him, it wouldn’t have happened. She’s blaming herself for something that she didn’t do.

If the investigation & everything else was legit, above board and honest, I would accept those comments but with all the issues, no way. There is no way I could convict someone based on that investigation

Why?

@@jennyraphael5843 because if such an important statement like I did it or its my fault was heard by someone in authority it would be recorded in the notes. It wasn't in the notes because it wasnt heard.

​@@malachy9400absolutely

Other residents standing out there heard her say it as well as paramedics. People who don't need to make notes.

Who suggested that Karen said that if it wasn’t documented ?

They kicked his ass and blamed her basically

Where are all the polygraph videos

Great movie!!!

Great movie!!

Hahaha medical professionals do not collaborate with something like this dipshit

Lol, the conspiracy on the other side is just as strong, meaning someone who ran her BF over might get away with it

Yes ma'am it is

If it was, you'd think they would do the right thing and stand up for John... He was a cop too. This isn't the thin blue line... This is corruption

Thick blue line

In both cases this is KR. Her car is the knife

Lol

especially if he's my buddy!

Also, I forgot to document anything ever said on scene ever and no one can fact check me ever. Sorry I guess

I’m thinking she was just spinning her tires in the snow.

​@@MonthieNo4excellent point

prosecution claims the vehicle travelled over 60 feet before striking him. it sounds like your story makes more sense than theirs!!

Just started following this case. Does this “24 mph in reverse” come from the computer in her car?

You guys must be absolutely terrible drivers. Probably mostly women, haha. Maybe Karen didnt mean to. Just another accident contributing to bad women drivers. but reversing in a lexus going a mere 24mph even in snow, is really not difficult, at all.

Mcade went into the house whilst they were on the roadside at 6 am to wake her sister (Mrs Albert) apparently and THEY STILL didn't come out !!!! Fishy !!!!!!

I think it would be very doubtful that the cops/first responders didn't know who lived at 34 Fairview. A simple search in and LE vehicle would have revealed that - and who wouldn't know of the Alberts? He was 'up there' and any officer would know that. So... the question is, who decided no one should approach the home? The obviously had to bother some neighbor for solo cups and a leaf blower.

John's body was already in the hospital. The policeman had everyone's name Remember, they werent treating it as a murder when they found his body, unfortunately.

Some of these “experts” they have on are really dim

This woman was accusing him of cheating with everyone around so I bet she thought he was cheating with a woman in that house and hit him. That's how abusers work and her messages show that's what she is.

@@madsdee7803 Right… because they always call and leave angry voicemails AFTER they run the person over. Couples argue and fight. The person that’s actually suspicious is the homeowner who sold that house that’s been in his family for generations after he dug up the basement floor, filled his pool in with concrete, and “re-homed” his dog. Not to mention his gf searching “how long to di3 in the snow” at 2:27 in the morning

Yep noticed that too.

These guest 'experts' are ridiculous. I'm sure they give them talking points 20 minutes before showtime - they probably know as much about the case as I do about them! Nothing.

Absolutely! She played on Karen’s emotions.

Yes. That's possible too.

That's been a core hypothesis to this for quite some time now

Also encourage those interested in this case to do a lot of research, you won't be disappointed. This is a big one.

They didn't know Karen would be coming back to look for him...laying out by the street to blame a snowplow?

Or the remodeling or the rehoming of family pet. Cop dog none the less. Cops never get rid of there k9 partner.

Nope

And who fills un their pool with concrete before selling it. Come on who cements a perfectly good pool to lower the value of your house. Its all so obvious.

Sold it for less than its appraised value during a seller’s market. Very bizarre.

And got rid of the dog

Very good point, I hadn't thought of that

Very true!

Hopefully they thought of this

Who says she was at home?

At 12.41am on 29 January 2022 Karen leaves a voicemail on John's phone and a garage door can clearly be heard closing in the background. So she was in fact inside John's house at that time. Where ADA Adam Lally get's his timestamp information is anybody's guess. It seems he is just making it up to suit the alleged nararative and agenda, just the same as some of these so-called witnesses are doing.

​@@madsdee7803not who but what says she was at home. EVIDENCE! That diligent people hear being offered and presented.

@@lucas_knight Good catch!

then they put him in the front lawn in front of the street in plain view? right right sure bro

I think they were drunk/pumped on coke and panicked, and thought that would be a good place to put him. Hide your movements by a Ford Edge, no lights on, middle of the morning - who's going to see? Ring camera across the street? Nothing on it - according to another cop. What could be suspicious about that?

@@enzoinfinity1the cop’s gf Jennifer even texted “how long to di3 in the snow” They didn’t investigate inside the house and the cop sold that house that had been in his family for generations, only after he ripped up the basement floor, personally filled his pool in with concrete, and re-homed his dog, but can’t remember who he sold it to… what else do you need??

There weren't any footprints from the house to where the body was found. So how can he be placed outside without footprints? And how would they know to frame her? No one knew her tail light was broken. And why would they want to step her up? Who is she? A nobody who has a defense team that spins the evidence like they always do.

⁠​⁠@@shamina1908There was a heavy snowfall that night. He was found with 6 inches of snow on him so tracks would’ve been covered. Her tail light wasn’t discovered broken until AFTER they towed her car and had it for 90 minutes before they reported having possession of it. Only after that did they find pieces of tail light on the property. It would also be smart to pin it on the girlfriend that was having arguments with him that night. They always look at the intimate partner first.

The dog chewed it up…

Wouldn’t she still be inebriated only a few hours after the “hit”?

@@GrizzlyUrsusArctos Maybe? why is that relevant though?

🧐great point!

Right... where is it?

And ball cap and belt. Still missing to this day!

He didn't have a coat on when she dropped him off so it's not missing. He wasn't wearing a coat.

No way your delusional anyone knows they hit some one dipshit

Wait what?!

@@2centswanted113they claimed to have video of it from I think the beginning. But no one has ever seen it. So where is it and why haven’t they released it yet.

Only one answer to that question.

I thought the chief’s camera “wasn’t working” that night?

@@NatyB4342wow! How convenient

How many people in history have been hysterical and screamed they did something and all the pieces lined up who coincidentally didn't actually do it... I mean pretty much never. If anything how many times has someone accidentally confessed and then tried to recant or come up with a defense that didnt land 10+ years in jail minimum and end her life... Pretty much every day.

@@rocsti5402 does it matter? This trial isn’t about history. And like I said, I don’t honestly have an opinion on her innocence or guilt. I think the prosecution’s case is BS.

Agreed, but we are only at the first hour or so of finding the body. KR will be screwed as the pros continues

​@@rocsti5402how many people have had domestic arguments and never killed the other person? How many people have threatened harm or ill fate on someone and acted on it? I know myself and plenty of others who have been investigated for making wishes of harm or ill fate to others, as cops did to Karen. But they were not investigated like myself and others I know of.

@@julybliss4440 but in this case someone is dead.... How many people never had an argument and then killed the spouse for no reason? Almost never. Theres always tons of fights and escalation before something happens. And usually inevitably something does happen, either divorce, injury or death, in many cases it just hasn't happened YET. But feel like your ignoring everything else to cherry pick things to find a narrative thats shes been framed. I'm waiting for the evidence and my mind can be swayed either way. Is that the case for you, or have you already decided before the trial has barely begun?

I thought they were working on him on the way to the hospital? If he was pronounced dead at the scene, then there should be photo’s! This case doesn't add up at all, and I can't see how the case has even gotten this far!

He died from sepsis. Sepsis occurs from bacterial infections. There was bruising from the tredmil but no open wounds. Therefore, falling from the tredmil didn't kill him. Yes, the father was abusive. But sepsis is often fatal and damages the whole body. The mother was told he had sepsis but refused treatment and did not tell the father.

@@georgieeve2026 Jamie Schron, an assistant Ocean County prosecutor, told the jury in her opening statement on Tuesday that but for some bruises, Corey's health was fine when his mother returned him to Gregor on the morning of April 2, 2021. A medical examiner ruled his cause of death to be blunt-force trauma, she said........However, the child's vital signs were fine and the doctor found no signs of infection, Aung said. His blood work was within normal ranges, the doctor said............ The Monster team is saying sepsis and pneumonia, Probaly all lies trying to save that monster, cuz he has money and the world today seems to care about Monsters more than regular people..... Blunt force trauma killed the kid, I think the Dad beat him up soo badly, he killed him... we will have to wait and see how it unfolds and once all the fact are out... i could be wrong, were all just going off of the news were recieving..

@@georgieeve2026 She did not take the kid out of the hospital with sepsis, That wouldnt even been allowed, they would have fixed him then and there if that was his problem and not agreed and allowed him to leave.... If he has sepsis, you think there gunna let her take him home, and you think shes gunna wanna take him home?.... They let her and the boy go cuz other than bruises and scratches and marks, he was in a good condition and fit to leave...

@@georgieeve2026Nobody is claiming the treadmill injuries were fatal. That incident is a separate child abuse charge from the murder. They were two totally separate events. The little boy was at the ER the night before and had a chest x-ray and blood work. No signs of infection and lungs were clear. He certainly did not go from a clear chest to pneumonia so advanced it caused sepsis and sepsis so bad it killed him in 24 hours. That absolutely did not happen.

I would say she was only to that house the night before and didn’t know how to get back. That could be a good reason

@@joemulcahy5168 Established. They had to get directions a few times.

Exactly

She's guilty more than 1 medical professional heard her confess that

@@davidking6986 lol...more than one medical professional!... well ok no need to have a trial, you have got the goods!

@@davidking6986 but none of them told investigators during questioning? That's super suspicious. The police didn't even write that in the report. Super suspicious.

@@davidking6986So because more than one medical professional heard her say that but I believe only one wrote it in official reports and others that claim something like that magically come up with it at different times in front of different people.. you are now convinced she's guilty? I wouldn't wanna see you on my jury

First thing i noticed 😂 imagine

I’m thinking she was spinning her tires in the snow. Faked out the odometer and sensors that thought she was going that fast. Sure, if the ground had traction.

Exactly. Where is the shoe? This is big for me also!! His shoe didn’t just walk away.

@@MonthieNo4that suv was all wheel drive…..she had traction!

misogynistic much??

Well said. Agreed 100%

I can’t even imagine… but I believe truth would prevail 🙏🏽

Totally. I wonder why they believe it- have they said?

@@erkaderka3571 I tried to read up a couple days ago, and it’s just basically that they believe the police and the police’s evidence. Maybe it’s easier to blame her than believe John’s colleagues and friends would do something so horrible. To be honest, it didn’t really seem like John’s sister-in-law thinks Karen is guilty. Something about the vibe of her testimony. She probably felt she had to be loyal to her husband’s family. She seemed most sad about losing a best friend to me.

I think they know about her falsely accusing him of cheating and see how she struts around the court, smiling and winking at TV cameras and they know she's an abuser who thinks she's conning her way out of her consequences.

That did come across as problematic and then the attorney almost overly states how innocent she is, didn’t look good.

No reasonable doubt IMO. No footprints in the snow, her messages, her history of accusing him falsely of cheating and there he's dead outside the house where a woman they know is (and he was before he left). Her saying those scratches look like dog bites when they look like fingernails. She did it because she's an abuser who thought he was cheating.

yeah but she decided to be passed out drunk and drive. Everyone agree that if you drive drunk you should be criminally charge if you hit someone. thank you.

Yeah she going down because of her hatred and deceit she already confessed it

I disagree - as she admitted she’d hit him, she’d known she’d hit him but continued home and left him. May be she had expected him to get up and ring her ….. ⚖️

I agree it was an accident. Though her actions after have been truly deceptive, utter denial, and BLAMING friends and family

Her messages to him show she would not have been doing CPR on him other than to look innocent. The scratches on his arm look like fingernails and not dog bites either like she tries to claim.

Apparently the FBI, CIA, entire Boston PD, state of Massachusetts, Russia, North Korea, I’m guessing the mob.. Crazy how KR & JO had no inkling how much he was hated & still wanted to hang out with these people. You’d think if everyone wanted him dead, they’d have used a much easier method than dog attack & beating during a snowstorm, knowing he and Karen Read would fight and she’d drop him off…cia prob installed a wire somewhere in her car prior to the bar.

It doesn't necessarily mean they hate her, just covering their own ass if they were responsible for his death!

Today we have confirmation they were all there when she "proclaimed" it based on their own testimony and dash cam

@@2centswanted113 Not possible for every first responder to hear everything said all at the same time, hence those who didn’t hear her confession. If this ‘conspiracy’ exists, why don’t those who didn’t hear it lie and say they did? Justice for Officer John O’Keefe - he’s the victim here, not the defendant ⚖️

@@dawnb3194 exactly so why are they giving testimony on something they can't remember. 1 testimony changed. An officer recanted. 1 never heard it at all. Another claims she said something else. Another gets cross examined tomorrow. You don't want justice your a blue line bot who is okay with scape goats. John O'Keefe deserves justice but he upheld our justice system and you spit on it by making up your mind before the trial is over

​@@dawnb3194to me kr has the same kind of attitude that Troconis had during her trial!! When I first heard and read about kr and the victim's death ,the facts were simple and I believe she is guilty!!

That dash cam conveniently don't pick it up🤦‍♀️

Probably in the house they never searched because they covered it up, that shoe would be in the lawn or street somewhere. They never bothered to see if those are dog bites and they had the dog put down after this happened, all coincidence 🤔