CR Touch vs BL Touch - NEW Creality Auto Bed Level Sensor Review

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Creality 3D is launching their OWN version of an Automatic Bed Level Sensor called the CR-Touch. So the obvious question is, Is the CR Touch BETTER than the BL Touch? Or maybe, What are the Differences between the CRTouch and the BL Touch. Find out in this video as I show you the Creality CR Touch and compare it to an official ANTCLABS BL-Touch.
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0:00 - Intro
0:30 - Disclosure
1:00 - Unboxing
2:54 - Mainboard Requirements
3:25 - Installation
5:15 - Firmware
7:12 - Comparison to BL Touch
8:36 - Size Comparison
9:27 - Head to Head Testing
11:45 - Pricing
12:15 - Conclusion
13:34 - Outro
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@SeanHodgins 3 жыл бұрын

I always think I should add a BL touch of some sort on my machines, but then I remember I manually bed level the machines like once every 6 months, if that. I think the glass bed helps.

@Nerlin 3 жыл бұрын

In a way they are over rated. If you do a good manual level, I think the only advantage of Auto Bed Leveling is it usually probes more points and compensates, but only on the 1st layer. I used to auto level before every print, but that is slow and really no need so I stopped doing that.

@timothymusson5040 2 жыл бұрын

They help if your bed is warped. Which glass should not be…

@dbackscott 2 жыл бұрын

@@timothymusson5040 ideally glass doesn’t warp. In practice it does, though. I had a glass bed that started out flat, but took on a slight “taco” warp within a few months. Addition of the BL Touch helped deal with that. I now mostly print to a steel plate with a smooth PEI sheet, and that’s working for me right now. I run the bed probing maybe every ten prints or so.

@Iisakkiik 2 жыл бұрын

@@timothymusson5040 My bed is so warped that even glass doesn't fix it.

@mattportnoyTLV 2 жыл бұрын

Except when it breaks. Which mine did after 2 weeks.

@MisterkeTube 3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Finally someone with pictures of the inside and it reveals ... an optical sensor! That alone makes this thing so much better than a BLtouch. No more interference from nearby magnetic items or electromagnetic fields. A lot less tuning required to get it to trigger consistently (because of the Hall sensor in a BL-touch). And the mechanism to deploy the pin seems much more robust - from the movies I saw I guess it needs to be actively deployed, so no more risk of the pin dropping by heavy shaking of the gantry. This looks like a winner to me ... except for the price maybe, but I guess it won't take long for cheap clones to appear and because of the less tricky technology in here, I think those clones will be way better than even an original BL-touch. This might get me away from building my own (servo + opto-sensor) probes ...

@MandicReally 3 жыл бұрын

Everything you said seems pretty accurate to me. The probe does need to be energized to extend so it fails safe (barring mechanical binding of course). As for testing while power cycling, if / when I get wiring to testing on other machines I’ll see about doing that. The price is a fair but more than a standalone BL touch but I’m already seeing these kits for the CR Touch with like $5-6 off coupon codes on Amazon. So seeing them around $40 isn’t far off I’d bet.

@kenopyowo 2 жыл бұрын

@@MandicReally So in your opinion should I get the BL touch or CR touch for my Ender 3 Pro?

@jimsinnovations2737 2 жыл бұрын

@@kenopyowo cr, I just went threw all this lol

@kenopyowo 2 жыл бұрын

@@jimsinnovations2737 ah shit i just recently got a bl touch. lets see how this goes. I haven't installed it yet, im printing the hero me gen5 first

@jimsinnovations2737 2 жыл бұрын

@@kenopyowo it's awesome make sure take Off that one z step on bottom

@GoodTimesNetwork 2 жыл бұрын

This video was filmed really nicely. The lighting, the camera work, the editing, everything looks super professional. Keep up the good work.

@turbochardged Жыл бұрын

I originally found you on TT. But i have to admit, this was a very professional and informative video. Honestly, i could see you doing this professionally for a living. Keep up the good work and I'll be waiting for new videos to appear.

@mattellis1239 2 жыл бұрын

you are honestly a lifesaver for giving us that software i have been searching for days lmao

@Kalvinjj 3 жыл бұрын

Niiice, you showed the insides and it's just how I understood it from their page: it's got an optical sensor on it, instead of the magnetic one. Love seeing the insides of stuff. Also the M48 was exactly what I was looking for. That's far more accurate than I was expecting (frankly the BL Touch also did surprise me, I thought it wasn't gonna be as high either).

@JasonSorenson 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I bought an E3V2 really early on and attempted to put a BLTouch on it right away. Fighting with firmware and not wanting to compile my own, I abandoned it. I struggled with manual bed leveling for too long and some nozzle clogs. Then my E3V2 became a nice dust collector for nearly a year. Anyway, this video inspired me to put a little effort back into getting it up and running. Bought the CRTouch, reverted from a direct drive modification and went back to a stock setup with this ABL sensor. I'm now printing really high quality prints again with ease and loving it. Thanks for the great video!

@TheTurbinator 2 жыл бұрын

Download the Jyers marlin firmware for the E3v2. It's like getting a whole new printer. Makes it seem like a an E3v11.

@TruFilmProductions 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheTurbinator Your right! Night and day difference. My Ender 3 V2 prints beautifully now. Jyers really did an outstanding job.

@shauninnc 3 жыл бұрын

Sir! Very well done! Oh my goodness. No kidding my son and I are 3 weeks deep into our new 3D printing hobby. We have an Ender 3. I Ordered the CR touch and tried to install it yesterday. First step was to watch the two minute Creality install video. LMAO Sir I said to my son “it looks too easy to be true”. First hurdle was an absolute struggle to figure out which dad gum frimware to use. The instructions from a neonates perspective are awful. Figured out the firmware and ran into the wall that is the Z offset. Oh man! I didn’t get too frustrated because I accepted it was beyond me at that point so I walked away for the evening. In my trouble shooting research I actually saw a thread that mentioned the Marlin Z Offset Wizzard but crawling then walking came to mind. I might give that a shot as I patiently await your Z Offset solution. I appreciate your work and I’ll compensate your time through purchases through your sites etc. Shaun

@unclesam239 2 жыл бұрын

First video coming from TikTok, great production value👍🏼 One of my new favorite printing channels out there. That being said I told myself from the beginning to ‘learn the hard way’ and forget the bl-touch; wanting to master manually leveling the bed before buying one. I felt like I had, so I purchased the CR touch after watching this video and I’m glad I did. First layers are nearly perfect every time and it takes some of the worry out of starting a print and wondering if it’ll survive 😂 only issue I seem to have with mine is the rattle coming from the metal touch probe as it prints, but I’ll live with it for now

@MandicReally 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I agree that is the best way to go. A Bed Level sensor is just a "nice to have" that supplements a good manual leveling. Supposedly they have updated the CR-Touch to deal with the rattle. My original one never really had that issue but I have one of the new ones too to see if it happens on the updated design. Just haven't had any time to mess with it yet.

@ImaginationToForm 2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad to see more competition of bed leveling sensors that aren't just copies of the BL Touch. I went with BL touch to support them though. If I need a sensor on a new printer I'll certainly consider the CR Touch.

@VastCNC 2 жыл бұрын

Loved your fabrication content, glad I stumbled on this channel!

@MandicReally 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for being here! Fabrication content will be ramping back up more in the near future too!

@rowlandstraylight 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, but I think the firmware story is everything. There's so much in the marlin firmware that makes life easier that Creality could ship if they could be bothered to put in the dev time. The marlin corners wizard, both in probe and non probe varieties is probably the most helpful thing I can think of that's missing, but it's been a while since I used Creality stock firmware. 0.04 accuracy is a full step of your z, you need a well sorted printer to benefit from less than that, and my experience of bl-touch and the better clones is they're mostly within one microstep and variance might be because the true reading is closer or further away from an exact step.

@terrorvizyn1043 2 жыл бұрын

I've seen a LOT of 3DP videos. I don't think I've ever seen this subscriber count (1.2k @ time of writing) and this quality of content. I also don't think I've subbed after watching 1 short video from a channel. SUBBED

@nubdefender3331 2 жыл бұрын

I just bought this kit for $32. I got a SD card with all the instructions pre installed on it, and setting it up was very easy. All 3 brackets are also included!

@kevinw7319 2 жыл бұрын

Where from?

@zeeshanahmad149 2 жыл бұрын

From Ali express

@nubdefender3331 2 жыл бұрын

amazon

@joosepvorno7938 Жыл бұрын

wich one? BL or CL?

@jmr 2 жыл бұрын

I really like the placement of the port on top. The metal probe is interesting and I like the general look.

@FreemanCreations 2 жыл бұрын

hey! i was your 1K! Dope, i enjoy using your nuke and keg barrel design!

@MandicReally 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for carrying us over the line! And glad you like the designs. 👌🏻👍🏻

@magmatri-studios 3 жыл бұрын

This is a pretty high quality video, you should have more than 739 subscribers.

@MandicReally 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. I'm plugging away at making more content, hopefully the subscribers catch out.

@prakesh2904 2 жыл бұрын

Well he is close to doubling that number now!

@michaelellis9210 Жыл бұрын

Loved the video and your testing method, and have the BL and CR Touch and am thinking of installing the CR and giving it a try. There is one additional comment on the differences between the BL and CR which may be a deciding factor for someone using the CR Touch, i.e. it doesn't require a leveling screw. The biggest pain point I've had with the BL Touch is the probe randomly deciding to not drop, and using the adjustment screw is hit-and-miss. Also when cleaning or replacing the probe on the BL Touch the set screw needs to be recalibrated, so not having to worry about the set screw fine tuning is a bonus.

@JerradMC90 3 жыл бұрын

I’m running tiny machines firmware with my cr10s with the bl touch. If I went with the cr touch would I need to flash with the creality firmware or is it plug and play once one or the other is already in place?

@edulpn 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, very nice in depth review, you helped me decide to get a CR Touch instead of a BL Touch! Just one question, my CR Touch has a rattle, vibration noise, when my printer moves the print assembly in the X axis. I tracked it down to the actual probe metal tip, if I just touch it stops rattling against the plastic body. Have you had any level of rattling noise on your tests?

@ThePsykosk8ter Жыл бұрын

Just purchased in 2023 kit is the same... same issues I am having issues seeing up firmware and offset! Thanks for this review

@firemarshalljon4349 2 жыл бұрын

So glad i discovered your Chanel

@Lozzie74 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the detail. The part about “z axis offset” really helped me. I didn’t know what this meant. I installed my CR Touch and got usable firmware that works with my touchscreen on my Ender 3 but I had almost no success with it, I suspect because I didn’t do the z axis offset. I’ll retry my CR Touch with this info.

@hmenioascanio7184 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video bro. Fast, Short and direct. Keep the same way to teach. Thanks.

@redavatar 2 жыл бұрын

Well the CR Touch has two things I like about it that I didn't like about the original: the flimsy probe is gone and it doesn't look god awful anymore. The flickering led inside the white chassis just really looked out of place on any of my 3D printers/

@ianboard544 Жыл бұрын

I didn't like the lights because I have a camera with octoprint and it just lights up the whole frame - very distracting.

@Shootinfor6s 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir for this. Question for you, are you using Repetier Host, OctoPrint, or something else while running these tests and bed leveling?

@Naboolechien 2 жыл бұрын

Salut de France ! Thank you very much for your very accurate video for the installation of the CR Touch on a 3V1 Ender in 4.2.7. The provision of the firmware in 1.1.2 helped me well because the official on the website of Creality is a horror. Thanks again a lot, my old and faithful Ender 3 wonderfully walking!

@richardparkes9244 Жыл бұрын

Firstly thank you for confirming that it's a straight swap with the BL. Something that amuses me is how many install videos feed the big end into the board and mention the difficulty, but when I installed the BL I ran the small end out the other way and it was easy

@antonywright3778 Жыл бұрын

Found your video most helpful. I have just bought myself a CR Touch for my Ender 3. When I went to download the firmware I was completely lost and ended up reaching out to Creality for help. The file they sent me is for Marlin 1.1.2 2020-04-25. My mainboard is 4.2.2. Although it does operate the CR I am having a lot of problems with setting up the Z offset. It certainly does not contain the auto wizard you mention. So I was wondering if you could recommend a different file to download? One of the issues I have is after doing the bed leveling, the screen shows an error saying "Err To Far away" or something along those lines. So Im guessing that it is setting the z height to high as anything I try to print, the first layer doesnot stick to the board. I was hoping to figure out how to get the wizard you mentioned see if it helps with more accuracy. Thanks for the video.

@bot_jonah Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this excellent breakdown. I just replaced my original Ender 3 V1.1.4 board with a V4.2.7 and am working on setting up a CR Touch for the first time. As of Sept. 2022, it appears that the "2020-04-25" BLTouch Merlin firmware is still the most current copy. My only big complaint about Creality is exactly as you described. Their instructions and repositories are a complete mess. Every new Creality accessory I buy sends me to a different URL that is usually a dead link or entirely foreign (Chinese) page. I am very thankful for channels like this one that understand how to communicate information targeted toward the consumer/hobbyist instead of engineers/professionals. Even though I'll be done with this project today, I'd still like to request a video on tuning Z-Offsets in this scenario as you mentioned. It would be extremely helpful to people like me who don't tend to mess around in the controls/firmware very often because of how much niche and conflicting information is out there. I think people will be making these upgrades on the Ender 3 series for many years to come and your presentation style for this would be incredibly helpful and appreciated! Thanks again for your effort and sharing your wisdom with the rest of us!

@thomasheisler Жыл бұрын

thanks, i got a couple old a8 plus's i'm about to retrofit and think this would be a good addition to the design

@brumpsstuff8088 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I have the CR Touch and I'm finding that the test squares at the back are showing signs that they are a little too far away from the bed. However all other squares around the bed are perfect, when looking through a magnifier. Any suggestions welcome.

@slicedpage 2 жыл бұрын

I give up on using a feeler gauge or paper. Doing it for nearly four years, enough is enough. Time for ABL thank you for the most useful and above all helpful tutorial.

@skaaads Жыл бұрын

man i really like the tunnel u have in yo ears :D interesting position ngl als great vid, i have my ender 3 pro for 3 yrs now and barely used it after a while, currently im getting back into and getting some upgrades. even tho i probably wont get autoleveling since my printer is still almost full stock, i have alot of other stuff to upgrade :D

@ryanv640899 2 жыл бұрын

So I had the same issue with the CR touch install process with the provided instructions. MY board is the 4.2.2, is there a recommended firmware to use for this?

@MobileDecay 2 жыл бұрын

Creality has a newer updated firmware on there site now for the cr touch. It seems to be a more up to date version of Marlin with way more features. I tried cfw but it didn't let me adjust the z offset at all. The only issue I have with creality's firmware is that I can't adjust the z offset with baby stepping.

@Bubu567 Жыл бұрын

If you plug into the printer, you can send a specific z-offset, if you need something in between. I have never needed more resolution myself. The gcode is M851. So if you need a z-probe offset of -2.521 you send 'M851 Z-2.521'

@mikebarry7017 3 жыл бұрын

I bought the CR touch because of this video! Works great after I worked through the nightmare that was the z offset. The directions were..... not good. You should do a video on calibrating it:-) I'm excited for the ender 3 v2 display to be natively supported by Marlin. Might get to use that magically Z Offset Wizard you speak of.

@MandicReally 3 жыл бұрын

I started working on a Z Offset video today after quite a few folks asking.

@firestormjr1 2 жыл бұрын

@@MandicReally video released?

@MysteryDuels 2 жыл бұрын

@@MandicReally video released?

@roccofilippi1418 2 жыл бұрын

Link to the video? Please. My S1 will be in Thursday. I'm starting from nothing. Lol. Can't find anyone local that does this yet.

@socaljzx Жыл бұрын

@@MandicReally Any update on this release of the video?

@megan24videos 2 жыл бұрын

I've ran an Ender 3v2 and now a CR10v3 with the BL and CR touches and I haven't ever seen the benefits of either. Am I wrong in thinking it should act as a compensation for a warped bed? For example, I've got a Snapmaker Original and there's no way to level the bed itself, but you go through and adjust the four corners. Granted, the bed is a 4" square, but you adjust the corners and the machine compensates for any high or low spots on the bed... Am I wrong in thinking the BL and CR's should do the same, essentially? Or am I doing something wrong? Cause it's super frustrating when you've got a warped bed and no way to print anything outside of the middle few inches of a 12" build plate.

@KetansaCreatesArt Жыл бұрын

Thank you, one question solved in this video. I have another question - Can I attach v2 motherboard inside the older CR 10S pro?

@andyspoo2 Жыл бұрын

This is how a review should be done!

@274stefann 2 жыл бұрын

great video. with my ender 3 the correction works the wrong way round. do you have a solution for that? that would be great

@caseyhutcherson1307 2 жыл бұрын

I recently purchased and installed and they did update the kit. I still had an issue with the firmware that i downloaded from the site. After loading sd card my screen was blank. I ended up trying the firmware that came on the sd card they sent and after trying a couple the ender 3 pro version load and flashed properly. I ran some mobility tests and was found i had a loose wire on one of the stepper motors. In the process of troubleshooting that i tried the other firmwares i download and they loaded and flashed properly after that. I’m not sure what i did wrong but it’ll seems to be working now. So far I’m really liking the CR Touch. I wish i had found this video before i attempted the install though!

@justinlabarge8178 2 жыл бұрын

You should probably have shared the standard deviation for the m48, the average is good, but a repeatability once of 0 and once of 0.002 would average out to 0.001.

@zk_6312 Жыл бұрын

I opted for the CR Touch mostly because of the probe sturdiness and I liked the look. I found it difficult to install the cable and had to take it off my 3d printer in order to plug the cable in. Also, on the cable I received the blue and red wires were swapped though luckily they were swapped on both ends so it did not affect the operation. It works well though the mesh is not centered on the build plate. Probably because after I installed the Micro Swiss Direct drive, the nozzle homes off the build plate now.

@mtraven23 2 жыл бұрын

just found your channel, gotta say, I like your style. Good focus on detail, but kept it moving. Looking forward to seeing your other videos. how do you make those bed visualizations? For years I've been looking at the raw data like matrix code & my bed a 22" round, so its a lot a data

@mikihay 2 жыл бұрын

Old versions of bltouch used to come with metal probe. But they moved to plastic as the metal in the probe would expand and measure longer in heated situations

@noway8233 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 3dtouch, the oin looks like metal, but its not, well its plastic with a metal cover...i think thats its was yuo saw

@jjanes0918 7 ай бұрын

I am running a Creality CR-X printer and it has a BL-Touch currently installed on it the main board is the creality v2.1.1 and due to mishap I had I am replacing that board with a Creality v2.2 board since the BL-Touch was operating fine, do you think the CR -Touch will work it can be mounted in the same location which is on the right side of the hotend and I still will have to get the correct firmware and because of what you mentioned I am a little leary I really like the aspect of the metal probe instead of the plastic one. In subsequent Bed levelings I get a difference that I feel falls out side of the range so am looking for a better way or product

@jarekthefiredragon9362 2 жыл бұрын

So it works with the Merlin wizard or do I have to use the creality one? And if so then good but how do I upload the Merlin program onto the printer itself because that is something I need to know as I haven’t done this at all. Also can I just change the code to enable the settings in merlin by just clicking it and so on? I’m not great with code

@hughkeir3828 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Alan, Is there a way to apply the print bed map back so the first print layer is optimised?

@MandicReally 2 жыл бұрын

A properly configured firmware should automatically do that if you run a G29 command before each print. The instructions with the CR Touch tell you to set that up in your slicer. Or if you don’t want to run a level every single print (I recommend it tho) you can run a M420 S1 command to used the last saved mesh data. Then you’d have to manually run the Level procedure from time to time to update that.

@kalixtshawxo 2 жыл бұрын

good video. seems a very fair comparison and rating. First time viewer of your channel. I have a BL Touch on an Ender 3 Pro that seems to be flaky every now and again. just stopping during a pre-print check and definitely stopping infrequently when doing a full bed level. Seems to have been fixed by putting a zip tie around the BL Touch just above the connector holding the cable to the body. seems like it might be a bad connection when the hot end is moving around and the cable would move. Thinking about replacing, and may do a CR Touch instead of another BL touch.

@lanypuspasari1868 2 жыл бұрын

i am planning to install bltoch or CR touch on ender 3 v2 with a v4.2.2 board running klipper FW. do you have any recommendation for me to choose CRtouch or bltouch.

@whirloffire 5 ай бұрын

Best video totally sold me on it I am putting it on a Promega creality core-z I'm working on

@GrizzlyBizzness 2 жыл бұрын

Is there any chance you could compile the firmware for the 4.2.2 board? I have had nothing but trouble with any of the creality releases and tried doing it myself with 0 luck as well. TIA!

@GreenAppelPie 2 жыл бұрын

Pre production? I got mine a couple of weeks before this video from Amazon for a few bucks cheaper than the bl touch ($34). I fed the lead through the loom from the pcb side, it’s easy. I downloaded and installed the Jyers firmware and totally recommend it. Good review!

@JayzStudio 2 жыл бұрын

What did you put it on ender3?

@Zulfrah Жыл бұрын

Can you put the firmware they sent you back in the description? The current firmware on their website doesn't work for me. I can't go below 0 on Z offset.

@charlesrestivo870 2 жыл бұрын

Really enjoy your videos bit off topic Do u have tpu profiles for ender3v2 that you use ? Tks for listening.

@borsburne1 2 жыл бұрын

gettin one soon because of this review

@Smedleydog1 2 жыл бұрын

I bought a cheap knock off BL touch and kept having issues with it dropping the probe when the nozzle went to do the prime at the edge. So I bought a genuine BL touch and it did the same thing. When I updated Cura the problem went away. Neither ABL sensors have any issues now. I don't know about accuracy, but the $24 cheaper works just fine.

@shullhunter7073 3 жыл бұрын

Currently in the process of installing a bl on my ender 3v2 and the firmware isn’t working. I have the 4.2.2 board with out the adapter. Any recommendations?

@MandicReally 3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean by “Firmware isn’t working”? Does it not have Auto Bed Leveling features in the firmware? Firmware went to black screen and won’t boot? The sensor isn’t functioning properly? Sorry I need more info to be of any help.

@AdamWiseman11 3 жыл бұрын

Does this only work with Creality-provided firmware and boards, or can we use it with BL-Touch enabled Marlin firmware on an SKR Mini E3 v2?

@MandicReally 3 жыл бұрын

Despite them being entirely different sensors the Firmware views them the same way. So yes you can use it with a BTT Board and just configure Marlin as if it was a BL Touch. That is how I compiled my own firmware for the 4.2.2 board. I haven't installed it on my machine with the SKR Mini E3 in it, but the Firmware should not care at all and the port wiring is the same.

@PtR-ec1wz 2 жыл бұрын

@@MandicReally that means that you can simply replace the bl-touch with the cr touch? too lazy to open up my printer now. and i do want to replace my bl touch as the stick got warped due to a non sticking print...

@MandicReally 2 жыл бұрын

@@PtR-ec1wz you should be able to, yes. I’ve done it a couple times. On my Elegoo Neptune 2 it didn’t work, for no reason I can discern. But everywhere else I’ve tried it’s been fine. (Creality and BTT boards.

@ronmyts5712 2 жыл бұрын

Hi just watched your video very good info. I am just wondering can it be used on the CR-X model ? Also do you have a video on how to use it. Thanks

@davidvalens3337 Жыл бұрын

do you have a pin out based on the color of the cable for the CR Touch. i would like to use the CR touch with a different board.

@TopofTheHill3D Жыл бұрын

i have the ender 3 v2 and i tried to get the CR touch to work for over 10 hours to no avail. i have the 4.2.2 board and thought i had the right firmware but i still havnt gotten it to work.

@monono954 2 жыл бұрын

Quality work here.

@hugoramos496 2 жыл бұрын

Bl Touch or CR Touch uses the same firmware? I have an Creality Sermoon D1 and as the bltouch firmware is now online I would like to know if I can buy a CR-Touch or I must have to buy the BL-Touch

@brenly__2247 9 ай бұрын

been a couple years, still isnt clear: do i remove the Z axis stopper or not? some say yes, some manuals say no. troubleshooting this install is tricky.

@TheOystei Жыл бұрын

would you have changed to the cr touch if the bl touch was the last sensor you tested on the machine, or was it just "it's the one thats on there, no reason to change"?

@paulmaher1705 Жыл бұрын

I just put the direct drive upgrade on my Ender 3. I'm assuming the CR Touch fits just the same?

@PWNHUB 2 жыл бұрын

11:17 The visualizations require a known 100% accurate control to be of actual value against each other. Otherwise you would have conflicting images w/ no real understanding of which is correct. However, the accuracy values, and those images you've shown basically say the 2 are within margin of error of each other.

@MandicReally 2 жыл бұрын

The point of including the visualizations was that in the absence of a known good value, all we could do is compare the readings between the two to see if they were reading similarly. The visualizations show they are. As you noted, I did provide more data than JUST the visualizations though. Yes they are arguably just margin of error from one another, that was largely my point here. I wasn't trying to tell folks "BL TOUCH IS NOT ACCURATE!" just show whether Creality's offering is comparable. Many people automatically assumed the CR Touch was a cheap knock-off off the BL Touch that would not be as good. I set out to see if that was accurate and found it was not. This isn't meant to be a scientific study of the effectiveness of a Probe Type bed level sensor, just a comparison of two against each other. Arguably in this instance the BL Touch IS the "Control" as it is the most widely adopted Touch Type probe on the market.

@Merc-ws9zh 2 жыл бұрын

Mine is rattling like crazy. I read somewhere there is a screw on the inside you can tighten to stop the rattle is that correct?

@armani007E55 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Can you link me to the stl for the bottom left covers. I haven't been able to find a decent that fits good. tks!

@stuartgray5877 2 жыл бұрын

Will this work on a CR-X Pro? I have been having trouble with the BL touch and stopped using the printer entirely because of it.

@haroutiounarakelian2520 2 жыл бұрын

HI MandicReally nice comparison, love the fact you opened it up, on a side note have you shared the e3d mount for the replicator anywhere ? :)

@MandicReally 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I haven’t released that design yet as I haven’t completed my build. I don’t release designs until I’m satisfied they are ready. I will absolutely do so when I’m ready. I really need to build that machine and get it running, so sooner than later I hope. I’ll definitely post videos and announce when it is released. 👌🏻

@haroutiounarakelian2520 2 жыл бұрын

@@MandicReally cool will keep a lookout :)

@ReviewThisTestThat 2 жыл бұрын

You said both your machines are 4.2.2 but the firmware they sent you was 4.2.7 only …. A bit confusing. Do you have the compiled marlin software available at all?

@satmax8576 2 жыл бұрын

I like my CR Touch. However, my PiCam is mounted the the box covering the gantry stepper motor and the CR Touch is big enough that it hits the PiCam bracket before the limit switch... that was the only problem I had. I just relocated the camera. Haven't had any issues with the CR Touch.

@gzaros 2 жыл бұрын

So, which Marlin firmware for a CR Touch and a 4.2.2 board? Link? I'll even take the Creality firmware for the CR Touch to start. Thank you!

@noway8233 2 жыл бұрын

Alway use the last Marlin , just download, change it to yuor own options , compile(vs code),and run

@JJones-gw9vy 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, great video. Could you tell me how you can get that warped-bed map at 10:58? Ive been looking for a way to see what my bed distortion is. Is this a software on the PC?

@MandicReally 2 жыл бұрын

You have to use a combination of some type of "Console" printer control (Such as via Pronterface or OctoPrint) and web programs that produce the map. I think there is an OctoPrint plugin as well that can do it within the OctoPrint platform. This is the one I used in this video: lokspace.eu/3d-printer-auto-bed-leveling-mesh-visualizer/

@JJones-gw9vy 2 жыл бұрын

@@MandicReally Thank you for the reply. I'm checking it out as we speak.

@mayamanign Жыл бұрын

Hey there, would this work plug and play on my Longer LK5 Pro? Thank you for the video

@christianfuhrmann5647 2 жыл бұрын

I got a bl touch sensor for my ender 5 pro but I can't seem to figure it out. All the forums I go to say to adjust Z offset but it's nowhere in my settings

@ronis12 2 жыл бұрын

Does this work with the ender 3 v2? Maybe you said it in the video, but I didn't hear it.

@jasonwilcox6521 2 жыл бұрын

I have the Big Tree filament sensor on my ender 3 v2 and it was a pain for me getting the firmware correct. If I decide to install a CR Touch will I have to mess with the filament sensor firmware again or will it be fine? I'm assuming when downloading new firmware everything gets replaced?

@MandicReally 2 жыл бұрын

Everything gets replaced unfortunately. Did you compile your own firmware for the filament sensor? If so adding auto leveling shouldn’t be any more difficult than that. Plenty of guides online for doing hit.

@stevehind7318 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice video, an informative and comprehensive comparison. Sub'd the moment I saw your Vegan Power tshirt too ;) Keep up the great work bro

@LucidFX. 11 ай бұрын

can this be used on other printers other than Creality? I ask because i have one on the S1 Plus and it is great BUT i don't see myself dismantling just to test :)

@user-sn5yv9ke8f 9 ай бұрын

I bought an ender 3 s1 from microcenter as my first printer because there was a deal and was only $200, it comes stock with a CRtouch and i love it, i manually tram then run abl, with PVA glue i get a nice flat first layer every time

@PointZeroOne 2 жыл бұрын

My BL Touch just bent its pin for the second time and is now failing. Thanks for your video I'm getting the CR-Touch now.

@geekguyilm 2 жыл бұрын

So I have a CR-10 v2 and had a horrible time with leveling. I purchased a BL touch and thought the instructions were horrid and never attached it. Ultimately this killed my desire to print. This was probably 2 years ago. I got the bug again but instead bought a CR-6 se with auto bed leveling and this has been a night and day difference. After seeing this, I will probably purchase a CR Touch and try to resurrect my CR 10 v2. Thank you!

@sunpeter8260 2 жыл бұрын

Nice! I like the BLTouch much better than the EZABL. I was going to replace my EZABL on my other Ender 3 with another BLTouch, and with your tests, I know I have a better option. I'm basically choosing for the better look more than better accuracy.

@MandicReally 2 жыл бұрын

I like that physical probes stow away further from the print. I worry about curling parts with the PINDA sensor on my Prusa machine. I’ve had a few bridging sections get messed up on the Prusa and I think that’s why (though I didn’t witness it).

@producdevity 2 жыл бұрын

Do you also have an affiliate link for the CR Touch on Amazon? Creality somehow takes 30 days to ship to The Netherlands...

@johnfarace7396 2 жыл бұрын

So even though it's got the same connectors you still have to flash firmware? I have a cr10s pro v2 and I've never done firmware. Would that make the printer better?

@MandicReally 2 жыл бұрын

You don’t have to flash firmware to switch from a BL Touch to a CR Touch. You only have to flash it for a machine that didn’t have a sensor before, as I setup here. If your BL Touch is in good working order, you’ll see no benefit switching to the CR Touch. If your BL Touch is acting up it may be a good replacement is all.

@ruddyrid 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, Thanks!

@cnc3-in-1 2 жыл бұрын

OK, I"m pretty new. I mean I have printed some pretty complicated car parts I designed in Fusion 360, but I am still really new to 3D printing... SO, you mentioned being able to factor in bed warp (after you did some probe test with some software..h ahhah I said I was new)... Do you have a video explaining how this is done AND is there an auto bed leveler for the CR10-5S ? As my parts are too large to print on any other printer and I have a CR10-5S ???

@trevornelson7524 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Definitely worth a sub :)

@chrisashdown1484 2 жыл бұрын

Just buying the new 32bit board and BL (CR) from Creality, and wonder about this talk of Marlin software, would it be best to install that or just live with the software supplied on the board as not technically minded and if so how do you install Marlin

@MandicReally 2 жыл бұрын

Marlin is the firmware the printer runs on. Consider it sort of like the Operating System of the printer. Creality machines (and boards) ship with a Version of Marlin. It’s just never the latest version or having all the features enabled. They play it safe as to avoid bugs of latest releases. I don’t know why they don’t enable more features though. So all that to say, you should be fine with what they provide on their site. Configuring firmware requires minor coding in VS Code and gets complicated fast. It’s totally doable but it seems very daunting.

@PaganWizard Жыл бұрын

I have an Ender 5 Plus with a 32 bit 2.2.1 main board, will the CR Touch work with my printer??

@toddbarber7590 2 жыл бұрын

Mine came with a SD card. Here in March of 2022. Is there pre loaded with the firmware?

@coronitaflotante 2 жыл бұрын

after flashing my ender 4 when i wanted to use the auto home feature it said auto home failed pront halted reset and now cant do anything any sugestions