Also, in another documentary I've seen long ago, they said the dolphins would stop using the name once it's owner has died. They weren't really eager to respond if the name was called artifically by humans. This was about captive dolphins, though I don't see a reason why it wouldn't apply in the wild as well.

dolphins are more intelligent than humans. humans are easily brainwashed, they poison/exploit each other, they do odd things like stick plastic in their bodies to look better. they are the only species that potentially enjoys torture.

@@standardtuning4guitars423 I mean dolphins do odd things like using eels and dead fish for pleasure and sadistic things to each other I won't go into. Animals all do odd/bad things. We are animals as well so of course we are included in that.

yeah but it serves no purpose. dolphins wouldnt care what we ate last night. humans might be able to use it to train them to become weapons but that is not in the dolphin best interest.

Yes, we are getting closer. This is important because we will need to understand strange languages in order to be able to communicate with aliens from outer space. Plus, dolphins have a lot to tell us.

So close of making an individual profile of each of them which contains everything they talk about so we can target them to buy useless shit they think they need and for which they'll have to enslave themselves to us in order to afford it. A bright future is in front of them...

That is such a good idea! I'd love to know the challenges to that.

As far as I can recall, earlier studies used fancy(*) tape recorders and slowed down the playback. Not seven octaves, though. More like three, i.e. 1/10 speed. Today we can do frequency shifting in real time, without the slowdown. I'm pretty sure they have dabbled with that. But they have not quite developed the directional hearing/recording needed; the sound picked up by the hydrophone is rather cluttered. *) Regular tape recorders don't record ultrasound far beyond human perception, if at all.

Yeah, those dolphins definitely talk sh*t with one another. Some of those whistles and chirps were pretty lewd.

Press pause foo!

See my student's PhD dissertation at hdl.handle.net/1853/53968

you are an idiot... and you as well as millions before you have fallen for the hype that has been denied by Nation Geographic themselves...It was promulgated by nature conservatives for decades Since the movie Flipper we have known its a scam

Well, then it is cool if it is real!

Came across a cool ad today from Pipdeckshq, in which the creator of the posted insight which seemed very relevant to communication within and even across species. He said in the ad, “What’s the simplest way to tell a story? Let me give you an example. Imagine you’re walking through the Artic. Imagine it’s cold and snowy and your feet are crunching through the ice. And then you see a Polar Bear and the Polar Bear sees you. And you understand the story not by working out the nouns and the adjectives and the sentence structure. You understand the story by running a little movie in your head with the polar bear in it. That’s why we say to people ‘oh I see what you mean’. “ (And whales and dolphins also see through echolocation too!) He continued… “But when you’re working, sometimes you’ve got to talk about stuff when there’s no movie. Sustainability or Strategy or Diversity.” (And perhaps whales and dolphins have their own things they talk about). He continued “What’s the movie? And here’s where the Movie Time tactic comes in really handy in Story Teller tactics” (items he’s selling) “because it gives you the ingredients you need for a movie. So the first one is action. Stuffs got to be happening somewhere with someone. The second ingredient is emotion. If you want us to remember something, give us the emotion.” In summary, I thought this story insight by this creator was relevant to communication learning in species because maybe sea creatures communicate/remember similarly, though using a lot more auditory data, spectrum, and processing? Don’t know. In their whale/dolphin talk (some of the sounds could potentially be stories/movies right?) It might still carry the same principles of action (stuff that’s happening to some sea mammal, somewhere) plus emotion. Also I was thinking the amount of information potentially conveyed in a short sonic burst or whistle or squeal or long distance specific signal might contain a whole lot more information than just a symbol or name. Maybe we humans are hearing the equivalent of a human sentence compressed into a second, because they can process audio data so much faster, right? And maybe the increased spectrum also means highly refined ears / jaw resonator / processing of subtleties. Because I saw there are some animals that recognize different animals and their states almost instantly and can convey this in their calls. And as humans like to sing for fun, I’d imagine some of the different messages could also be different convections of emotion depending on delivery, intonation. etc. How would a whale know when to identify when a human sings vs speaks for example, say from an underwater recording? What emotion was the human conveying in the song? Perhaps we could draw conclusions about their communications similarly. I thought it was cool that you mentioned that dolphins/whales can even send noise cancelation beams. And that some food could make them high haha. Cool cool! Under da sea! 🤪. Thank you!

There a difference between a dog communicating that you should stay away, by barking and an actual language.

How do you make the (purely) mechanical device produce a very specific sound on your command, without using electricity? They have an underwater speaker. A speaker is a device that, essentially, transforms electrical signals into vibrations, that are broadcasted in the medium around it. And at various frequencies of their choice, yes.

This is not how sound waves work.

I think they are in the transitional shift as we are from third to fourth density. They are existing in both third and fourth density and are collectively shifting as humans are. Gaia is amazing. (fifth dimension, fourth density. similar meaning)

These days, I suggest looking at the North Focals. When we started making Glass in 2010, I suggested the best transparent optics that I knew would work for the project (invented by my colleague Mark Spitzer). Industry has had 9 years since then to improve.

@@thadstarner4413 Wow just checked these out, much cleaner versions of Glass. Plus google just acquired the startup so can't wait to see the synergy! Question though, Focals 1.0 is being discontinued, is this because of integration with a new Google Product (Glass 2.0?) or a new North Focals 2.0?

Maybe not but I'm sure its not from lack of trying.

Mark, this suggests to me that you have a very limited understanding of the depth of studying language and its models - especially for them to be studying from the very beginning. Also consider that the speakers are working to present years of information in an hour to an audience of varying backgrounds and experience, working to make it somewhat intelligible to everyone. Even if there are lots of similarities in what was presented between these talks, I imagine that pausing to reconsider for just a moment would be plenty to keep me from making a disrespectful comment like your own.

Yes, we have made some progress. We have discovered certain combinations of vocalizations can predict different types of visual behavior, such as mother-calf reunion, foraging, play, etc. See my student's PhD dissertation at hdl.handle.net/1853/53968

@@thadstarner4413 Thank you oh so much for sharing !! Although I doubt I will go over a 100 page thesis, one of the questions that popped in my mind as I heard Denise's TED was whether machine learning could be used to catch similarities and patterns that the human eye can't. Again, thanks from an aspiring neuroscientist :)

@@thadstarner4413 love this work! To my ear, the TONE of the communication seems clear. The aggression vocalizations sound like "smack talk" to my ear. Have you tried having volunteer humans listen to one of the 4 types of vocalizations & try to figure which catagory they would fall in? Fascinating research, as a fellow Georgian & lover of many species, I applaud your work!

well thats what they're trying to figure out. Can we find a way to communicate with a different species and find out how smart they actually are. Will dolphins understand human concepts that were developed over hundreds of years of science that are mainly relevant for living on land? Probably not. But we cant know until we "ask them" essentially. Maybe they even possess knowledge of things that we dont understand. we keep thinking we're smartest, because what our species figured out is the smartest we ever heard of/seen. I dont think they expect to find anything specific with them and I think thats the right attitude actually. An open mind is essential for this, because if you have a specific expectation in mind you might overlook things. Trial and error; try a method, see what happens and where it leads us. Its up to the scientists to be creative with it, I'm not a scientist, I dont know shit, so all I can do is say a bunch of pseudo-intellectual phrases. What I do know is that the potential of communicating with another species who also lives in the ocean (a part of the world we know barely anything about) is unbelievable and could open up a whole new world of knowledge for us, so it should definitely be looked into more.

Intellect of other species can not be judged by human standards . Humans went down the road where we are now because of the circumstances we were at . We needed to build , and we had opposable thumbs to make tools to conduct experiments and study science . They might do a lot of stuff on intellectual level that we don't even have the name for . It's like saying Chinese/Indian/etc don't know how to cook because they cook differently . The biggest problem is that people are so egocentric they consider themselves the measuring unit of everything.

I agree, and kinda disagree. Well I think in that point it is merely about opinion. My "scoring" for a society (beside the social life on individuals and the way they communicate) is in exploring the universe. I think exploration isn't something unnatural, we explore universe and exploit its features to improve us mentally and physically. Science had different meaning over time - from having advantage in the battle to curing people. Now, dolphins can't explore universe in the same way we do, because of their physical capabilities, they just haven't hands and feet to sit in the laboratory and analyze some cells or build particles accelerator to discover secrets of the universe and use them for own purpose. So in that point you can ask, do they really need such things to live good life as society? No. Individuals and society can exist also without such technological advances. Now about dolphins. What can be the most interesting thing is that they might have huge memory capacity to store huge amount of information what we can't do (well our brain isn't that limited, but maybe they can store much more than us and access to that information on some very different neurobiological way than we do) or they might have a feature of sending encoded images to each other. That would be really breath taking. - If that would be true, then the question is - can they send just some 2d/3d copies of the world or can they send even their thoughts as an image or set of images which will be rendered as video in their brain? That would be interesting to see how this happens in their brains. But. I must say, that it is really cool (in scientific way ;)) to see how it works, but we are already moving to the same stage of the technological development with our smartphones (we still can't connect our brains (I'm a bit afraid of it, because i really don't want to download some malware to my brain :D)), but maybe in the next 50? 100? years we will find out how we could connect our brains even more than we already have done by using internet. So, it's definitely interesting to see some more upcoming news about progress in exploring dolphins, because we might learn something from them and improve us. So I'm not neglecting that there might be something interesting, but I'm trying to be more sober and realistical. Btw i think it was a great idea to get this guy with these google-glasses to this team :D (i read somewhere that he leads some research group on google). You see how profitable (in scientific way!!!) was this symbiosis of math and biology.

From how I see it, language isn't something all animals can do in the scale of humans and dolphins. Signals isn't language. Language is something that has to be taught in a social environment. Most animals don't seem to stick around to teach a language. A arachnid for instance, just lays eggs and leaves. Who is teaching them a language? No one, it's pretty easy to conclude they don't have one. The thing is with dolphins, you can see that they live with each other, and grow up in a community. You can see the mother teaching things, telling them how to speak different words, showing them how to converse, and how to have proper manners, just like humans do.