How NOT To Cheat At Sudoku!

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Today Simon faces the puzzles that defeated him last week. Even having solved it before it's still a completely barbaric puzzle! It's called Tatooine Sunset by Philip Newman and you can play it here:
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@fynnsternis6432 3 жыл бұрын

"Tatooine Sunset", also known as "We're nowhere near getting a digit" and "We need another swordfish"

@darreljones8645 3 жыл бұрын

I would've named it "Tatooine Swordfish".

@condor1234 3 жыл бұрын

no no no no no

@andremouss2536 Жыл бұрын

The empire didn't catch R2D2 there. But where is that cell ? Row two, diagonal two ? Neither they catch C3PO, that wold be column 3, parity Odd ?

@TheEricthefruitbat 3 жыл бұрын

The best thing about this puzzle is the swordfish for a digit that does NOT appear anywhere in the grid, IMMEDIATELY followed by an x-wing ON THAT SAME MISSING DIGIT.

@sebrofniloc 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting definition of 'best' that you are using there! 😉

@Tiger21us 3 жыл бұрын

That is indeed awesome. And mind boggling~ :0

@susanne5803 2 жыл бұрын

Now I'm officially scared ...

@christophejefferies522 2 жыл бұрын

@@inlumina_punctro You can click the link in the video description

@addicted2222 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely agree. This is incredible. The most beautiful and brutal classic sudoku I've seen.

@itsachickenwiththing 3 жыл бұрын

I admire the absolute restraint to require just one x-wing to solve a Star Wars themed sudoku.

@matttondr9282 2 жыл бұрын

But it’s an x wing on a digit not even present in the grid, located by a swordfish again on that same missing digit.. Wonderful! The one x-wing that truly counts 👍

@inlumina_punctro 2 жыл бұрын

Can someone indicate where is the PC software which allows you to use colors and numbers in different position? Is a pdf, or? I mean for PC, not for mobile. Thank you! Is it free, it costs?

@Mrkirkulator 2 жыл бұрын

@@inlumina_punctro its the CtC website/app - all the videos have a link to the puzzle in the description

@pardox28 3 жыл бұрын

This puzzle finally got me to understand swordfishes!

@benharkness8152 3 жыл бұрын

Yes same

@jonathangreene682 Жыл бұрын

Same, I finally get them now and also how they similarly relate to jellyfish. X Wing -> Swordfish -> Jellyfish. Is there a 5x5 one also? Maybe haha.

@Thedamped 3 жыл бұрын

This is the only channel on KZfaq that feuds with itself.

@mydemon 3 жыл бұрын

"Watch me one-up that bastard!" ;)

@negar1368 3 жыл бұрын

No no noooo we are nowhere near getting a digit! This is so much fun to watch

@c0d3_m0nk3y 3 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed this so much, I wish you could like it more than once!

@masheroz 3 жыл бұрын

@@c0d3_m0nk3y you can like it an odd number of times.

@moji8225 3 жыл бұрын

@@masheroz but does that give us a digit ?!

@masheroz 3 жыл бұрын

@@moji8225 depends, did you colour it orange or blue?

@moji8225 3 жыл бұрын

@@masheroz oh my god, i knew i messed up somewhere, it was all about the colors (´･_･`)

@glum_hippo 3 жыл бұрын

I am perfectly serious when I say: MORE videos like this please. This is a very nice contrast to your usual and equally wonderful videos. If I may suggest: make your show 95% live solves as usual and maybe 1 in 20 can be 'walkthroughs' like this one. Though I trust your instincts more than mine of course.

@zelassin 3 жыл бұрын

Well there’s a reason why this was supposed to be a patreon video. The goods go there

@ardemus 3 жыл бұрын

@@zelassin That really would be too bad. I was an early Subbable member, and got transferred to Patreon when they merged. I was there for a few years before they slammed my account with a series of unexpected charges. Customer service was far beyond bad. IIRC, I was using a side account with a low balance so they repeatedly over-drafted it, I wound up getting the bank to wave the fees because they were unauthorized charges, had to get refunds from the individual creators directly, closed my account, and swore off the company. The several scandals they've had since only confirmed my opinion of the company. Patreon simply isn't an option for me.

@AFastidiousCuber 3 жыл бұрын

All told, I think this is the fourth time this puzzle has been mentioned and the second time it's been solved on this channel. That's pretty impressive for a classic Sudoku!

@r0bw00d 3 жыл бұрын

Close. It's the third time, to my awareness.

@stephenbeck7222 3 жыл бұрын

r0bw00d Simon first mentioned he couldn’t do it but posted a link for others to try. Then Mark did it with bifurcation. Then yesterday I think Simon said he wanted to show the logical solve. And today is the solve.

@r0bw00d 3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenbeck7222 Hm. Simon mentioning it must have been in a video that I haven't seen. I only participate in the classic solves.

@stephenbeck7222 3 жыл бұрын

Looking back, Simon actually mentioned it twice before Mark’s bifurcation video. In ‘Top techniques for classic sudoku’ (Rimu’s classic), Simon showed this Tattoine puzzle on screen and said he couldn’t finish it. In the ‘Greatest puzzle arg ever’ (killer sudoku from DiMono) he updated that he had found the logical path that had taken him forever.

@AquaShibby3000 3 жыл бұрын

@@r0bw00d Oh, really? Just curious why that is.

@tillwiemer757 3 жыл бұрын

29:00 after going through multiple swordfishes he explains the X-Wing to wipe our tears away

@miniwizard 3 жыл бұрын

It would hardly be a true Tatooine Sunset without an X-wing hidden within the horizon to save the day.

@carlosrodriguezb 3 жыл бұрын

That was amazing. It was straight forward from the X Wing

@mrmonster3434 3 жыл бұрын

A puzzle worthy of M. Hercule Poirot himself. And to solve it, we must use "ze little grey cells"!

@BozoTheBear 3 жыл бұрын

exactly what i was thinking! :)

@akhos9876 3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Just yes.

@CootBusiness 3 жыл бұрын

That's weird because I've been listening to the Poirot theme while solving Sudoku puzzles. Is there some connection between the two?

@matttondr9282 2 жыл бұрын

Nice one 😂

@hauntedmasc 3 жыл бұрын

I mean... I rather enjoyed Mark's bifurcation solve, but this... this is truly extraordinary.

@HalfBakedLunatic 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah - stunningly good for both of them. Even with the bifurcation, the fact that Mark did it as quickly as he did was amazing - but this just blew my socks off.

@NicholasLayton 3 жыл бұрын

And extremely unnecessary

@andrewg3666 2 жыл бұрын

True, bifurcation just means your guessing.

@philipnewmansudoku 3 жыл бұрын

An easier way (IMO) to think about the swordfish at the start of this puzzle - and in fact, this is what the puzzle was built around - is to think about the geometry of the givens. Considering the "most useless" 5, for example, you'll notice that the columns (349) Simon picks out for the swordfish all have givens in the same three rows (257). Since the given 5s are on three *different* rows (348), the 5s in columns 349 must be in the remaining three rows (169). In fact, there are two such "3x3" patterns in the givens, offset from one another, and this is what leads to all the swordfish at the start. (The 279 swordfish are so fruitful because of the high degree of overlap - eight of the nine givens are found in one of the 3x3s.) It's important as well that all of the givens not part of those 3x3 patterns (all in row 9) are also offset from both - this contributes to the 2 and 6 swordfish at the start. "One of the most useless swordfishes" - In fact, you can solve it without using the 5 and 6 swordfishes at all. (There's a 3 swordfish at the end to find instead.) You can also use a jellyfish for the 1s rather than the swordfish/x-wing combo, but the x-wing around the sun is so pretty.

@philipnewmansudoku 3 жыл бұрын

And it's worth noting that Tatooine Sunrise is actually a tad easier by the metric of Andrew's solver, though whether it's actually easier is debatable. ;)

@negar1368 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Philip for this amazing puzzle. The symmetry was how I approached it and I should say the solve was much more elegant.

@philipnewmansudoku 3 жыл бұрын

@@negar1368 You're welcome, and thank you to everyone for the positive responses! I obviously thought the puzzle was good or I wouldn't have submitted it, but I'm stunned by the attention it has gotten the past few days. :)

@yigityargic2814 3 жыл бұрын

@@philipnewmansudoku You are a legend for creating this legendary puzzle. Well done!

@isakoolsson 3 жыл бұрын

I noticed that pattern when Simon made the first swordfish, because it made a second swordfish of 5s

@sarsoar 3 жыл бұрын

I noticed the 279's all over the grid too but came to it in a different way. But what intrigues me is the movies where tatooine is prominently figured is ANH in '77, phantom menace in '99, and attack of the clones in 2002.

@tyrgannusgaming6657 3 жыл бұрын

This is easily the hardest Classic I've ever seen

@Wecoc1 3 жыл бұрын

There are many that are way harder than this, but when they're that hard it loses quite the fun in my opinion. On Andrew's Stuart webpage (shown on the start of the video) there's a section called Weekly Unsolvable that not even the solver can solve.

@philipnewmansudoku 3 жыл бұрын

@@Wecoc1 Since you mentioned the "unsolveables", I'll point out that the pattern this puzzle is based on, with the 3x3 givens, is quite fruitful in terms of finding hard puzzles. Before I went on a fishing expedition, I found quite a few in that vein.

@kellymiller7986 3 жыл бұрын

@@philipnewmansudoku This puzzle is very hard, but it is also very beautiful. Thank you for making such an evil, wonderful, fair puzzle.

@andremouss2536 Жыл бұрын

The converse applies : this is hardly lthe easiest Classic (lol)

@Waggles1123 3 жыл бұрын

It feels like you guys need to include a negative pencil mark (maybe red?) in your software update. It'd be nice to note that a cell could be a 3, but it can't be an 8.

@JohnJillky 3 жыл бұрын

This, and more colors would be great, but I can understand if they want to keep keyboard number shortkeys connected to all of them (tho, I feel there could still be 2 more colors + make white just the delete/backspace)

@nendwr 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe that's what the B key is for.

@FirstLast-gw5mg 3 жыл бұрын

I found Simon's "negative pencil marks" very confusing and opted to just fill in all *possible* pencil marks instead. I was still able to follow along well enough and it basically put me on track to filling in all possible digits as he suggested, so I just went ahead and checked for swordfish on the remaining digits, found several that helped narrow it down further, and it solved from there. Then the only confusing bit was to remember that now corner pencil marks were actually all possible digits, so they were actually like center pencil marks at that point.

@omkelderman 3 жыл бұрын

YES! ive had multiple times on completely unrelated puzzles that I felt the need to mark a cell in some sort of way to signal to myself that it cant contain a certain digit

@michaelpeele5739 3 жыл бұрын

@@FirstLast-gw5mg After a few "obvious" numbers, I find myself just putting all of 1-9 in every cell and removing them. I also will see some x-wing, and I'm learning swordfish.

@libbilation 3 жыл бұрын

This is an all-time great CTC. Up there with the original Miracle Sudoku. Classic Simon turning sudoku-solving into an absolute thriller - though in this case more of a detective story! So completely wonderful

@ringoderbar1522 3 жыл бұрын

I got 4 swordfishes in 40 minutes, without knowing the concept of the swordfish. I see this as an absolute win!

@ArloLipof 3 жыл бұрын

When in a classic Sudoku puzzle, you hear: ‘that gives us a bit of a Sudoku relationship’ after 33:53 (!), you know there is a true genius at work. The sheer elegance of Simon’s logical reasoning here is simply magnificent.

@grenvillephillips6998 3 жыл бұрын

The thought of doing reverse notation is mind-bending.

@rickrice8660 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed ... and I don't get why he does that. I thought he said, at the finding of the pattern in columns 3, 4 and 9, that the 5s could only go in those two blue cells. So why not use center pencil marks for those 5s and corner marks for all the other possibles 5s in the other columns (or vice versa). Maybe it makes more sense as we progress ...

@asherhiggins2018 3 жыл бұрын

@@rickrice8660 It seems he has a sort of moral code where penciling in that way is considered wrong.

@Derekloffin 3 жыл бұрын

Wait, you already solved this and it still is a 39 minute video?! Well, no wonder I couldn't even make a dent!

@majascha3414 3 жыл бұрын

32:29 Simon: "I'm trying to work out what the next digit was. There are some cells here that are more resticted than you think." Me, realizing the cell he is hovering over (r4c4) is a naked single 6: Haha! For once I know what he'll do next! Simon: Oh, over there! That cell can only be 3 or 4! Naked single 6: remains unsolved for another 5 minutes, gets solved because there is no other place in the box for it

@Jackleber 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah! I just said the same thing!

@antalbojtos4413 3 жыл бұрын

"I was never prepared to bifurcate, so I never got anywhere" My heart melted for you, Simon. If you were a world-class solver, this channel might not exist, and that would be a huge loss for everyone. I thank you for not bifurcating.

@victorfinberg8595 3 жыл бұрын

But Simon IS a world class solver. There's more to life than winning competitions, and there's far more to being great than competing in competitions.

@diegobolso2005 3 жыл бұрын

Just the fact that he never said "now we are cooking with gas" is enough to understand how diabolical this piece of art is.

@rosebuster 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Simon. This way of solving is far more satisfying. Because it allows to appreciate the surprising beauty of this puzzle's construction. While Mark's solve doesn't make it possible to see any of that.

@ceevio_art 3 жыл бұрын

Very true, but Mark would progress to the next round in a competition, which I think was the point he was making in his deliberate bifurcation "if-then" solve.

@ArunIyerS 3 жыл бұрын

I am glad (and amazed) that Simon persevered through this puzzle and created the video. I cant even imagine how Philip might have even thought of designing such a puzzle. Incredible!

@VanpyroGaming0 3 жыл бұрын

Is this the one where Mark had to double bifurcate to solve it?

@TheGerkuman 3 жыл бұрын

Yep. Right on camera too. Was surprised it wasn't flagged as unsuitable for monetisation.

@OttoBittoSplatoon 3 жыл бұрын

Well, bifurcation was the point of Mark's video: he didn't even try to solve it logically, he just showed what he would have done in a competition to finish it more quickly

@vasilybulochkin4622 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have link for that?

@Luckingsworth 3 жыл бұрын

@@vasilybulochkin4622 litteralt yesterday's episode. Titled "how to cheat at Sudoku"

@vasilybulochkin4622 3 жыл бұрын

@@Luckingsworth k thanks! I've missed that episode

@SonicGamesPlayer 3 жыл бұрын

I've never thought that a classic sudoku can have such a beautiful logic!

@littleschnitzel8226 3 жыл бұрын

I have bad memories about this puzzle, this is the one I almost solved after more than one hour, missing only a few last digits, but no, accidentaly restarted it instead. I'm still furious about it, I tell you. :)

@r0bw00d 3 жыл бұрын

You're going to have shell shock because of this puzzle.

@melodywawichi802 3 жыл бұрын

30:46 for digit #1 i swear we need a top 10 list of the puzzles with the longest amount of time taken just to place a digit down

@zoltankalovics7910 3 жыл бұрын

actually at around 23:20, when he did the swordfish with the 8s, that lead to only 8 possible position for 8 in row 5, so even though he didn't put it in, it was already placeable nvm, seems like he missed one possible position on for it in r5c6 when he colored them in, so it could also go there, if I see it correctly

@sunriselg 3 жыл бұрын

In my first try of the puzzle it took me 55 minutes to place the first digit, then 7 to place the rest.

@nilsp9426 3 жыл бұрын

Let's call it: "First blood" as a hommage to the gaming world ;-)

@zelassin 3 жыл бұрын

Don’t forget this is not Simon’s first solve of this. Original time to place a digit could be much higher

@jddevos1 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for walking through this solve. I am trying to learn these advanced Sudoku techniques, and videos like this one really help me out. I paused every time you highlighted the swordfish possibilities to try and find them myself, and I cannot explain how satisfying it was when you confirmed them. Is there any possibility for a series on these techniques? Specifically, I really struggle with hidden pairs/triples/quadruples. Thanks again for the wonderful video.

@brandonsurowiec8789 3 жыл бұрын

Gave me tons of swordfish practice too. I now understand them sooo much better! Was super helpful.

@MrCharlieArgo 3 жыл бұрын

Gotta love the principles on my guy. Refuses to bifurcate knowing that means he will never become a world-class speed solver. Too much respect for the puzzle and the solver. Gotta love it

@marcohanig176 3 жыл бұрын

It didn't affect the solve, but I believe that at 14:41 you incorrectly colored a 2 in box 2-3. Same for coloring the 6's in column 6 at 15:56

@rogerstone3068 3 жыл бұрын

Yes: I saw the possible 6s mis-identified in the central box, and I was waiting all the way through the video for that to come back and bite him... but it didn't.

@marcohanig176 3 жыл бұрын

@@rogerstone3068 Finally realized that for a swordfish, the only marks that matter are the ones in the swordfish columns.

@bloodclaat 2 жыл бұрын

I saw that too.

@PKAdazGalaxiaz Жыл бұрын

is it solvable via swordfish if he didnt mistakenly color that box? I'm trying to understand how he would have used swordfish if he hadn't colored that 2. started learning 2 hours ago so there is lots I don't understand yet.

@yigityargic2814 3 жыл бұрын

When I got this puzzle, I pencil-marked literally every cell with all digits from 1 to 9 and went by elimination. In fact, I started doing this with every classic sudoku now. Although I had the clue that there are lots of swordfishes, I still missed the swordfish with 1s, because I was truly not expecting it.

@sunriselg 3 жыл бұрын

I also use that notation for most puzzles. For this puzzle that made the last bit a lot faster.

@andrew.pendleton 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting choice with the alternate notation. When I solved this when it was first posted, I ended up just doing center notation for all the possibilities for every cell, and then whittling away digits as I found swordfish, which worked fine but obviously took a little while (I think over two hours in total for me).

@sunriselg 3 жыл бұрын

That notation is what I did as well (and what I often do with more complicated puzzles). This helped a lot with with the end. In my first solve it took me only 7 minutes to go from one digit to solved.

@willemkossen 3 жыл бұрын

Could add red pencilmarks to the software for this reason ;)

@ragnkja 3 жыл бұрын

Willem Kossen That would be nice.

@thejeqff 3 жыл бұрын

That was so incredibly satisfying. Thanks for doing the logical solution path. I found the swordfish on 7s first, but couldn't find the others. Your method for finding swordfish patterns may make this one of the most helpful videos in the entire CTC catalog. Really fun to watch.

@araddadi2 3 жыл бұрын

Oh the shade of it all the drama of it all im LIVING for it

@Felixkeeg 3 жыл бұрын

This should be called 'high sea fishing' with all the swordfishes one has to catch

@snakeyesz 3 жыл бұрын

THAT WAS INCREDILBE! SIMON TO WATCH YOU LOGICALLY SOLVE THIS AND ALSO IM REALLY GRATEFUL FOR YOU EXAPLAINING THE DIFFERENT TECHNIQUES

@mbash7887 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you @Philip Newman for making this puzzle. Thank you Mark for showing us the "easy" way to do this puzzle. Thank you Simon for showing us the "right" way to do this puzzle. This is the coolest puzzle I've seen on this channel so far. "Wut a puzzle!"

@marcoe3676 3 жыл бұрын

I by no means could of got this far but i did notice during your 8’s swordfish there was actually 2 swordfishes on 8’s which immediately gives you the 8 in column 1. Which also happened to be at the time you said we were no where near putting a digit in yet. Other swordfish is column 5,6 & 8

@RedPandaLesbian 3 жыл бұрын

I immediately paused the video and came to the comments to see if anyone spotted that second 8 swordfish, glad I wasn't going mad!

@RichSmith77 3 жыл бұрын

As the constructor himself (Philip Newman) has commented elsewhere, there isn't, in fact, another swordfish in columns 5, 6 and 8. Simon missed shading in r6c6, which could also be an 8.

@RedPandaLesbian 3 жыл бұрын

Ahhh that makes sense too, thanks for clarifying!

@Ruddigore 3 жыл бұрын

10 out of 10 for this absolutely superb solve but I'm afraid you came in last place in the competition in which this Sudoku featured. So glad you decided to broadcast this solve for us.👍

@GauravBafana 3 жыл бұрын

The greatest thing is even with new software where simon can just double click a colored cell to remove the shading from all colored cells but he still does it manually and ends up finishing in an astonishing time while making it interesting. Really great work. Loved the puzzle

@kduhy4379 3 жыл бұрын

Have been following this channel for some time and have learnt a lot from you two, however, this puzzle and the different ways that you solved it has been fascinating. Thank you

@vilsbol 3 жыл бұрын

This - along with Mark's video from the other day on the same puzzle - has to be my favorite video of yours so far. I really enjoyed it, thank you both!

@bjornek2 3 жыл бұрын

As someone already said, it is always extra value in videos where you explain in detail like this. Very educational, Simon. Thank you, Simon.

@bartw8523 3 жыл бұрын

Wow what a great solve. Unbelievable that with all the techniques you can solve this sudoku. And that reminds me that someone who has made this must also be brilliant to see all the techniques behind this super great sudoku. I loved how Simon solved this puzzle. It was a pleasure to watch.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@ReactionVideoDotAvi 2 жыл бұрын

I've been watching your channel for a couple of weeks now and I'd like to thank you for explaining in simple terms how the swordfish pattern works, all the guides I've read while trying to up my Sudoku game have been far too complicated for me to grasp the logic and I finally got it with this video. Thanks Simon.

@nishanthn4927 3 жыл бұрын

This is legendary solving!!

@BinaryArmorOnline 2 жыл бұрын

This is actually a super cool style of video. I would love to see more videos where you're going through a sudoku for the second time and pointing out what exactly it is you're looking for when you're scanning the grid and how to notice it.

@arturodeloz 3 жыл бұрын

Wow! It was a joy to follow along with you on this journey to a Galaxy Far Far Away.

@triplea657aaa 2 жыл бұрын

I always love how you never resort to bifurcation and always go the logical route. Never change, Simon!

@Eftelingannie 3 жыл бұрын

I love seeing you solve it this way. What a great puzzle to solve it logically. Truly loved it.

@tarotcomPauloEvoLua 3 жыл бұрын

I’m very thankful for this marvelous class you’ve showed us !!!

@J4ckyCh4n 3 жыл бұрын

I normally don't comment on videos, nor thumbs up them, but I give this solve a 10/10 standing ovation

@Bobbieness 3 жыл бұрын

I am his wife and sat next to him during this solve. Can confirm standing ovation happened, followed by “I need to get my phone to thumbs up this video.” (We watched it on the KZfaq app on our TV.)

@ay5576 3 жыл бұрын

Yay!!! So excited for this I got so stuck and stopped. Thank you.

@jonbrowne8334 3 жыл бұрын

That is the greatest solve I have ever witnessed! Wow oh wow! I could follow to a point but it was very difficult! To all those people who have solved this puzzle I bow before you! This is beyond my current capability but I will keep o trying to master these puzzles! An unbelievable video Simon!

@sunriselg 3 жыл бұрын

First solve too me about 62 minutes (I knew I had to look for swordfishes), second solve was 21 minutes. Spoilers for the tightest solving path I found: 1. Swordfishes on 2, 5, 6, 7, 9, 2. 279-Triples and pairs 3. Swordfish on 8 4. 145 Triple in row 9 5. Swordfish on 1 6. X-Wing on 1 7. Place first digit 8. Solve the rest

@kelperdude 3 жыл бұрын

Cool. I've been waiting for this. I do okay on the standard ones, but this one was a beast to try.

@Mindseas 3 жыл бұрын

This solve was absolutely stunning, stellar work and crystal clear explanation! Thank you Simon!

@MarkTillotson 3 жыл бұрын

double stellar in fact :)

@gavinmcclenaghan7787 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, this is a satisfying solve. But I have to say this also gives me an equally great appreciation of Mark’s solve. The elegance of pure logic vs. the efficient and judicious application of brute force. More of these style comparisons please!

@Azayaa42 2 жыл бұрын

Holy moly this was seriously impressing and sooooo good to watch!

@patrickhazlehurst8472 3 жыл бұрын

You are a brilliant explainer of the logic Simon. Thank you .

@jerryknox4841 2 жыл бұрын

Finally, I understand what the use of colors is for. Years ago I downloaded a Sudoku app and it had colors, I did not know what to do with them and everything was so confusing, I deleted it. Thanks so much for letting me understand what they are for, I truly appreciate it. Oh, and great job on solving that puzzle.

@wanderlustwarrior 3 жыл бұрын

"The hardest naked single you will ever see!" Well at least he wasn't up in your face with it!

@girlindigo8 3 жыл бұрын

I love that Mark and Simon have different solving styles.

@alvaropallete 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much Simon, I could find the swordfish for 2, 5, 7 and 9, but not for 6, much less for 8, much much less for 1, and much much much less find the naked single at 30:45. I just suggest doing the shading by boxes rather than by columns or rows, it's easier to visualize and avoid mistakes (i.e. at 22:12 r6c6 is not shaded so that could lead to a swordfish with columns 5, 6 and 8, that would crash our puzzle later on). I bet this will remain as one of the flagship videos of the channel. I'm not only giving a like to it, but also saving it in my library 😁

@leagilbertson8920 3 жыл бұрын

This was amazing! And I finally understand the swordfish! Thank you!

@gspaulsson 3 жыл бұрын

Bifurcaton isn't guessing, it's the hypothetico-deductive method, aka science.

@masheroz 3 жыл бұрын

It's shotgun sudoku.

@DavidLalo 3 жыл бұрын

aka guessing

@hecatesowl8688 3 жыл бұрын

A hypothesis is an educated guess in science. Therefore it is a scientific guess lol.

@sinajakelic 25 күн бұрын

I keep coming back to this one. This must be the most impressive classic sudoku ever. ❤ thanks for a fantastic explanation.

@MatthewBouyack Жыл бұрын

Re-watching this almost two years later. Such a classic!

@Anenzoras 3 жыл бұрын

Aside from the crazy solve, I'm stunned by the facts that: - You need one X-Wing to start finding a digit; - That very first digit is 4 and I can't help thinking that the very first film of the saga is the episode 4 AND in which we see Tatooine Sunset.

@philipnewmansudoku 3 жыл бұрын

Ok, the episode 4 thing was pure coincidence, but I love it. :)

@Anenzoras 3 жыл бұрын

Oh wow, that's fortunate!

@philipnewmansudoku 3 жыл бұрын

@@Anenzoras Someone on the forum where I originally posted this took to calling all the swordfish "lightsaberfish" for thematic reasons. ;)

@rebeccanorth6349 3 жыл бұрын

Truly stunning solve! Everyone will have to up their game to match you now Simon...A*🤙

@eleirbag9937 3 жыл бұрын

What a lovely sudoku - and what a smart way of solving it ... I really loved it! Only waiting for Simon to discover the 79 pair (and consecutive 56 and 18 pairs) in box 6 made me kind of nervous /excited ... Maybe this could've shorten the path a tiny little bit (?). Really fascinating puzzle; wishing to see more of this kind! I haven't been able to solve this sudoku on my own - but I tried hard even including looking out for those helpfull patterns. In the end I "gave up" because I sort of lost the overview. All the more I had been looking forward to watch Simon-solving-without-using-"what-if"s ;-) Thanks a lot!

@jeffreytennant 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for demonstrating this solve. I think there are very few people who would have seen it all the way through

@saittou 3 жыл бұрын

who would believe that in such a desert planet you would find so many fishes

@Deuxice 2 жыл бұрын

this is just absolutely beautiful. not even the word beautiful can do justice to how beautiful this puzzle is.

@jsadvent8240 3 жыл бұрын

Logic is a beautiful thing, but life is filled with paths that are taken based in inspiration, educated guesses, and blind guesses. These can be beautiful, too.

@watcherofwatchers 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, but life is not a Sudoku puzzle.

@philipnewmansudoku 3 жыл бұрын

@@watcherofwatchers Life is like a box of Sudoku: filled with the digits 1 to 9, and sometimes fishy.

@jsadvent8240 3 жыл бұрын

@@watcherofwatchers sudoku puzzles are solved by humans and humans are free to use their gifts in that endeavor. That's part of life.

@Da6moose6 3 жыл бұрын

Simonism watch: BOBBINS: 0 :( Calling something useless: 1 Cooking with gas: 0 :(

@francoisduez601 3 жыл бұрын

It's different when it's not a live solving 😉

@Da6moose6 3 жыл бұрын

François Duez I agree lol. I enjoy watching Simon become frustrated.

@Nighthound 3 жыл бұрын

It took so long to cook Simon ran out of gas: 1 :(

@meepmeepinton 3 жыл бұрын

you forgot "Well that's absolutely useless!" When spending a while figuring out a digit and also "What is this cell? Well it doesn't matter"

@RatKillCat 3 жыл бұрын

Simonisms-I love it! The list can be expanded upon, especially in regards to the numerous variations of compliments Simon tends to give to certain creators and their puzzles (“gorgeous”, “brilliant”, “beautiful”, etc., oftentimes preceded by “absolutely” and occasionally followed by “piece of logic”). Adding those to the list could however make Simonism drinking games hazardous when it comes to the miracle sudoku videos. Funnily, Simon saying “bobbins” a lot has somehow slipped past me. As per the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon, I will probably start hearing it a lot from now on.

@Tiger21us 3 жыл бұрын

I loved watching this, I may actually understand the swordfish now. More video like this one would be nice :3

@neilramsey1368 3 жыл бұрын

After watching your expert explanation on swordfish and x wings I have a new appreciation of how to spot these solving techniques- Thank you

@trewernrowlands9464 3 жыл бұрын

Been checking religiously over the past few days for a logical solve!! I feel complete haha

@Kamiyurikai 3 жыл бұрын

Still a great solve even though its longer with all the logic but kudos to Simon as usual for the great work and entertainment you bring to each video 👍👍👍👍

@richardrule494 3 жыл бұрын

Easily the most impressive solve I have ever seen. Thanks

@gi0nbecell 3 жыл бұрын

I opt for calling chains of 3 or more swordfishes "bouillabaise".

@nothinmulch 2 жыл бұрын

I loved that you asked us to spot the swordfish and x wing in this one. It really helped me grasp the idea of them!

@DavidVanmeterDutch 2 жыл бұрын

Didnt know I could get that excited watching a Sudoku before. When he got the first digit, the 4, I shouted out and jumped up! Was a marvelous puzzle. Now, I learned swordfish and x-wing! So great!!

@nicholasiverson9784 3 жыл бұрын

When you get to the 8 swordfish after locking down 2, 7, and 9, there's a second 8 swordfish in the columns 5, 6 and 8.

@Piatato 3 жыл бұрын

The twin puzzle was amazing as well! Fun to solve after getting strategical ideas from this video. 😊

@Not3xactly 20 күн бұрын

This is one of those puzzles that I am totally fine leaving to folks like Simon to solve while I watch in awe.

@pietndala7394 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely stunning creation and limits of reason... wow ... I’m super impressed...

@fjr2go 3 жыл бұрын

Woah, very well done!

@glenagarrett4704 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not logical by nature and started Sudoku late in life. For me, it's always a marathon on difficult puzzles. Swordfish are incredibly difficult for me to recognize but your approach to this puzzle clarified them much better than any of the explanations on simpler puzzles I've seen. My goal is to gain logic skill, since I know for certain I will never be fast at these things.

@epeo22 3 жыл бұрын

This, coupled with Mark's video, is THE best video that Simon could have ever done to convince me that bifurcation is indeed absolutely necessary. I think that doing all this work makes sense when filming a video on youtube, but it's not fun at all, and in competition it's just absurd. Don't mistake me, I loved the video, it's fascinating, but I don't want ever in my life to do something like this by my own.

@richardhunter5734 3 жыл бұрын

This is one of the most remarkable videos yet in your series! More content like this please. I really like your web based app for its simplicity in entering candidates. Is it available in a format that allows the users to enter a starting set of givens?

@jimjimellell 3 жыл бұрын

I finally finished it correctly after 2 weeks and 3 failures. I did not use any swordfishes or x-wings, only Ariadne's thread and the "slot machine" technique (which I have been using for years but didn't know that it actually had a name).I liken solving this puzzle to chopping down a tree with a pen knife, simply chasing down 1 thread after another until I could eliminate 1 candidate after another. I also finished the companion puzzle Tatooine Sunrise and that seemed a little easier (only 2 days!) I hope you post a video on that one too. I also hope to see more puzzles by Mr. Newman. Brilliant!