Craig Jones's Million Dollar Fight with ADCC

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Ай бұрын

Craig Jones, one of the most popular Jiu Jitsu athletes in the world is making waves as he calls out ADCC, the premier grappling event in the world. He's looking to get a substantial fighter pay increase, but ADCC and their organizers claim they can't make it happen. What do you think?
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@wilwn
@wilwn 29 күн бұрын
Craig is a legend for attempting this
@Officialdjwilson
@Officialdjwilson 24 күн бұрын
Agreed, all he’s trying to do is get his peers paid. Can’t be mad at that
@alfiesolomon3531
@alfiesolomon3531 Ай бұрын
The reason Gordon ( or even Nicky Ryan) has nothing bad to say to Mo is because he has been good to them in the period of the pandemic and the recent ADCC. It's quite easy to track back the posts on IG to verify that. Plus Mo is giving 100% leverage to Gordon so he will not spit in the soup. But that doesn't mean Gordon is doing a favor to the sport or the community by protecting Mo from criticism, he is protecting is own leverage. The hero that was made to save the sport that ought to be Gordon ( according to John Danaher in an interview with Ben Askren) is really Craig in the end. He is the only one criticizing the sport at all scales. From the little Guru instructor abusing the students to the low pay and low popularity of JJ or rulesets that hinder the growth of JJ, Craig is the one actively doing something about it, behind all the clickbait gay jokes and whatnot. If Mo doesn't take a stand to help these athletes who compromise full time their body to make that sport popular, Craig is doing something with the "BDCC". It's hilarious but i hope it succeeds. Picture this : Satoshi Ishi was saying that he was paid and covered medically for being a judoka full time when he was in Japan. But if you are an JJ world champion, you can barely afford to pay for your surgery in the US. So really one should ask themselves : on what healthy bases are we hoping to help this sports grow?
@jiu-jitsu-lab
@jiu-jitsu-lab Ай бұрын
Good Points!
@matthewjalomo8511
@matthewjalomo8511 28 күн бұрын
On it my friend. You can possibly help make a change!
@aplus1080
@aplus1080 26 күн бұрын
I fully appreciate your line of reasoning, but judo is an olympic sport that has national funding. And JAPAN?! There isn't ANYWHERE that level of institutional support for bjj. I agree it would be great if we get to that point, but as of now, bjj is a purely private sport driven by love. The consequence of this is that there is minimal money available. Craig has valid criticisms but he's focused on the here-and-now while Mo is focused on the future.
@alfiesolomon3531
@alfiesolomon3531 26 күн бұрын
@@aplus1080 you never get funding overnight. You get by making the sport grow and being popular & exciting. And eventually, down the line you might get funded or sponsored or whatever. But if you keep paying 10,000 bucks the winner regardless of the growth and revenue, you pretend to help and hinder the very people that make up the event. Craig didn't just criticize : CJI is on, you are paid $10,001 to participate, you leave with a million if you win. Tackett is participating and I can easily imagine everyone leaving out ADCC behind until Mo is forced to make serious adjustments. That's a real good move in the right direction for the future Not what Mo does UPDATE: Just saw that Fion Davis join CJI also
@dano1307
@dano1307 25 күн бұрын
Well said
@Harps555
@Harps555 Ай бұрын
Craig is 100 percent right ADCC is dog shit to the Athletes. Personally I think the reason that Adam Bradly didn't win west coast trials was purely because Mo was a judge and made them not give him the points for the sweep just because he is mad that he is getting called out for what he is doing.
@jiu-jitsu-lab
@jiu-jitsu-lab 29 күн бұрын
That was definitely a crazy situation
@aplus1080
@aplus1080 26 күн бұрын
ADCC is dog shit to the athletes? haha Ok. You must be new here.
@dagus834
@dagus834 26 күн бұрын
Is that the guy who swept Michael Pixley and didn't get the points? I was rooting for Pixley but that Deep-Half sweep deserved a score.
@Harps555
@Harps555 26 күн бұрын
@@dagus834 yea that was him
@Harps555
@Harps555 26 күн бұрын
@@aplus1080 considering you train for years pay your own way all those years to go to as mny trials as you can which you also pay to enter. To then win trials, be entered into the "top" Bjj competition in the world, and leave with nothing unless you win, and even when you win the guy playing the drums next to you just for a walk out on the finals, or the person announcing names makes more then you, yes they are dog shit to majority of the athletes. These are essentially the best professional BJJ athletes on earth and there is not that many of them and 99 percent of them get paid nothing. But Mo still wants to pay 2 mill to rent out T-Mobile when Thomas center seats the same and cost 20k and is right down the road. It is an ego thing and the athletes that actually make the competition what it is and give the most are on the back burner
@danieldiaz9948
@danieldiaz9948 Ай бұрын
If Craig pulls his event off, then he’s right. If he doesn’t, then he’s not. It sounds like Craig has been able to raise enough money to offer $10,001 to fighters just to show, so it’s looking like he’s right that ADCC has been shafting its fighters or has been poorly managed.
@Kevin-ll5vu
@Kevin-ll5vu 29 күн бұрын
Agree.. but a business person would say he's losing money.. how long can he do that ? I want to see craig succeed
@aplus1080
@aplus1080 26 күн бұрын
Pulling off ONE event where you pay fighters more than ADCC is not the triumph you think it is. ADCC has been going for 25 years. Anyone who is THIS concerned, should just volunteer to help Mo secure sponsors and funding for fighters. That would be dope as shit.
@jbb8261
@jbb8261 24 күн бұрын
@@aplus1080is actually is a triumph because fighters will have more leverage not to fight for stingy organizers ever again. Adcc will either up their pay or suffer. I think what Craig is doing is genius.
@rufioswitch2132
@rufioswitch2132 21 күн бұрын
It helps that Zuckerberg has given him $1million upfront lol 😂
@cthulhu-jitsu7404
@cthulhu-jitsu7404 Ай бұрын
The argument of the reward for ADCC being down the line is stupid. This is the same thing as people saying they will pay for an artists work with exposure. The payout might be down the line, but you have bills now. And the comparison to the Olympics is also a bad one. Athletes competing there have huge government support and it's basically treated like a full time job. They may not be set for life, but they are taken care of during their term.
@aplus1080
@aplus1080 26 күн бұрын
Down the line is not stupid. There isn't money to have 1) legitimate exposure and 2) give the athletes big paydays. There are competing costs. Gordon has said for years that the athletes need to do their part to expose themselves and Craig has been exposing himself for years now. But STILL, the money just isn't there. Craig's primary criticism of ADCC is that they chose the wrong venue and could've used that money to pay the athletes more. That's a pretty weak criticism and really does reflect the gap between short v long-term thinking.
@cthulhu-jitsu7404
@cthulhu-jitsu7404 26 күн бұрын
@@aplus1080 competitive hotdog eating pays out more money than winning ADCC worlds. Are you seriously arguing that that's more popular and there's more money in that than BJJ? And they're paying for crap that's objectively bad. The woman from Pride screaming the athletes names for an hour was torture. And she definitely got more pay than any athlete. So do the drummers. Hell, it seems that literally everyone involved in ADCC Worlds is paid more than the athletes.
@andrewleonard3809
@andrewleonard3809 23 күн бұрын
There's money for sure.....you saw the crowds at the last one.....and they have sold out t mobile arena and tickets can't be cheap.........some of that money needs to goto the athletes
@gsmarchand
@gsmarchand 23 күн бұрын
Grappling is not big enough like mma. Adcc is not a league. Theres no belts being put on the line constantly. There's no championship fights all year long for different weight categories. It's one tournament. Agreed the organizers could pay the fighters more if their margins are in the green. But they won't pay anything comparable to a league sport. It's not the same as a league sport that plays anywhere from 20-150 games a year with billion dollar TV deals. Billions in sponsors. Constant exposure and marketing opportunities. Unions and cba's. Comparing grappling even to the ufc doesn't make sense. Very different. Dana is right about fighter pay. Either youre good enough to be here year after year or you're not. Just making the ufc roster doesn't mean you made it and should be taken care of financially no matter what. Win fights or someone else will. Fans need to connect with fighters emotionally because only a tiny percentage of fans watching mma actually understand what's happening technically(Danaher quote). There are too many martial arts being used in mma who understands all of that. Even coaches understand only the martial art they teach and not every martial art in use. Boxing coach understands combat Sambo?? Ufc needs characters or its dead. Fights alone with no drama are not appealing enough to everyday people. Grappling matches alone are a boring spectator sport. I'm sorry but it's true. Especially when the fighters decide to not engage until the very end. Different rules for different tourneys. Not exciting enough. Not drama filled. That 15 minutes to pass guard was so exciting and spectacular. NOT. It's too slow and technical. Unless Craig is planning on holding monthly tournaments that pay a 10,001 show up fee rather then holding a one off tourney proves nothing in my eyes. A couple people will get a big payday. If you're injured then kick rocks. So sorry. Not that many people will make money from it. It does nothing to increase fighter pay, all it proves is someone can hold a 1 time event with the right sponsors.
@cthulhu-jitsu7404
@cthulhu-jitsu7404 23 күн бұрын
@@gsmarchand not to be rude, but are you even listening to the arguments being made? We're not comparing Jiu-Jitsu to MMA or the UFC. We're comparing it to COMPETITIVE HOTDOG EATING!!!!! That's definitely way less popular and still pays more than Jiu-Jitsu. And it's just watching someone eat. Definitely boring as hell to watch.
@jax2442
@jax2442 26 күн бұрын
I dont doubt that Mo is working on making Adcc better, but look how quickly Craig Jones was able to make this beneficial for the athletes in just a matter of months. It might not be as complicated as Mo puts it out to be?
@aplus1080
@aplus1080 26 күн бұрын
For ONE event ONE time with NO FUTURE. Sure. Maybe.
@jax2442
@jax2442 26 күн бұрын
@@aplus1080 🤷‍♂️ We'll see I guess.
@jbb8261
@jbb8261 24 күн бұрын
It’s all about mindset. Craig is exposing how greasy and shortsighted Mo is 👏🏾
@IndagatorAD4
@IndagatorAD4 24 күн бұрын
6:48 Funny Craig is somewhat exaggerating the living situation but if you go back to that old Eddie Bravo video of when he had just beat Royler…the pay ain’t been good for a LOOOOONG time folks. Great video btw. Helping get these athletes some exposure or at least helping get the argument about pay ironed out.
@juggernautjunky
@juggernautjunky 23 күн бұрын
Great video. More a tangent on the argument that Craig Jones somehow "owes" ADCC, I do feel like a lot of people forget that EBI was a large reason why the original DDS crew became so popular. Gary Tonon was a frequent grappler in major BJJ competitions, but EBI being submission only, and allowing leg locks, completely upended the BJJ competitive landscape when it came to viewership. He became an overnight sensation, then Gordan became famous after he stepped in for Gary and submitted Yuri Simoes who had just won ADCC. Gordon then went on to submit Keenan Cornelius in a no timelimit match and became redhot. Though Craig did gain notority for submitting Leondro Lo, he stardom really broke out when he almost submitted Gordan Ryan with an armbar at EBI.
@piratechauvelin
@piratechauvelin 24 күн бұрын
Gordon saying that the legacy and post-adcc pay is worth more than just the payout for the event is all fine. But what makes the event what it is, is the combined effort of a mat filled with the people at the top of their game. Without all their combined effort the event is worthless, they should be paid accordingly.
@felix-bk7ne
@felix-bk7ne 23 күн бұрын
Absolutely. Winning ADCC will boost your seminar and instructional numbers massively, but that doesn't mean the athletes shouldn't be paid as much as financially possible.
@andrealcantara1437
@andrealcantara1437 25 күн бұрын
2 million dollas arena... get a 1 million dollar arena, increase athletes pay, done
@fazer12779
@fazer12779 Ай бұрын
Athletes just need to boycott the ADCC, then they’ll need to up the prize money or have no content!
@aplus1080
@aplus1080 26 күн бұрын
There is only Worlds and ADCC. "Athletes need to boycott the olympics!" Sure. They could.
@jbb8261
@jbb8261 24 күн бұрын
@@aplus1080there are some athletes who never do the Olympics and out-earn ones who compete in them regularly though…
@liamrkds
@liamrkds Ай бұрын
Lets not forget that these middle eastern countries been sportswashing for a while now. Not saying its right or wrong, thats a more complex question. But if you sports wash boxing and soccer for billions of dollars, 10k for 1st place sounds like a con, for the thousands of competitors that try and make it. Jiu Jitsu is state funded in UAE in the millions of $$
@bakedfortgod8241
@bakedfortgod8241 24 күн бұрын
What is sport washing
@user-wk4ee4bf8g
@user-wk4ee4bf8g Ай бұрын
Seems like ADCC has had time to figure out the funding for better fighter pay
@wowisoffline
@wowisoffline Ай бұрын
I like what your doing, I liked the video and you got a great subscriber count! Some hopefully constructive criticism; improve your audio recording and volume mixing. The microphone sounds inexpensive which I can understand you may not be in a position to afford an upgrade. The music was a little too loud compared to your voice when listening from my phone speakers.
@jiu-jitsu-lab
@jiu-jitsu-lab Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@clueless1011
@clueless1011 Ай бұрын
@@jiu-jitsu-lab You might want to add some punch with some graphics for values. Like 1st is 10k side by side with the video cuts or whatever. Good effort on this topic nonetheless.
@h4b2_k66
@h4b2_k66 28 күн бұрын
Craig is a Australian Dagestani lol
@war13omerta66
@war13omerta66 24 күн бұрын
Yes ADCC is the Olympics of our sport and well done for Mo and the team for doing what they've done for as long as they have, but Craig is taking the sport to a new level and fighters can compete for some real money and make a living from this, instead of side gigging at fucking burger king or selling their asses on only fans.
@amart23
@amart23 Ай бұрын
he does make a good point...if you want the sport to grow, pay them more. look at pgf. it will take off. thomas and mack arena??? dude, your talking about TONS of cash...theres not even that many competitors...pay these athletes. crazy
@yohanscold2149
@yohanscold2149 24 күн бұрын
Yo broski good video, the audio was a bit off, but that censor is fucking insanely obnoxious. Keep it up tho dude
@Disciple808
@Disciple808 Ай бұрын
And this is why OneFC exist.
@aplus1080
@aplus1080 26 күн бұрын
OneFC is a financial joke. The fact it still exists is a testament to laundering more than legitimacy.
@treyjohnson9407
@treyjohnson9407 Ай бұрын
How do you have so many subs with only 2 videos?
@Mr.Zanderson
@Mr.Zanderson Ай бұрын
Nice Reversal shirt!
@dimpap9659
@dimpap9659 27 күн бұрын
I predict the demise of ADCC as grappling's most prestigious event if those in charge continue to simply exploit their athletes. ADCC is the Olympics of grappling sport not only because it is the most prestigious but also because you can't get anything other than the medal and a lot of fame. Let's be honest, the idea that all grappling sports can compete against each other is great, but since only BJJ is represented and all other grappling disciplines don't even bother to compete, I think it's easy to get the position that ADCC currently has quickly to lose and be forgotten. I believe that leagues like PGF or WNO or ONE are the Future. This isnt some Onetime Event a year, its constant entertainment.
@SpencerHeckwolf
@SpencerHeckwolf 20 күн бұрын
Blood sweat and tears? More like blood sweat and gear.
@Mac-zl4po
@Mac-zl4po 8 күн бұрын
His name isn't Creg. Wtf. It's Craig. Cray-g. Say his name right.
@LK959
@LK959 24 күн бұрын
Yeah pay is dog water but all this is going to do is make another PFL. A large roster of wasted talent, contracted at way too high of rates for pay and most of them will end up sitting out their best years because no one wants to pay them to show up
@Heavygrenadelauncher
@Heavygrenadelauncher 23 күн бұрын
Go Craig! This is a good thing.
@Gabi_Garcia_is_the_GOAT
@Gabi_Garcia_is_the_GOAT 27 күн бұрын
It’s true why do these athletes get nothing
@Officialdjwilson
@Officialdjwilson 24 күн бұрын
10,000 for first prize while tickets to get in cost 5,000 a piece is ridiculous.
@berzerkfury1459
@berzerkfury1459 Ай бұрын
Grappling industries should be paying you $20 to fkning compete. Every grappling comp should pay you something not you paying them to compete
@andrew4031
@andrew4031 23 күн бұрын
Does anyone else think this is Launderd money
@buckmills4159
@buckmills4159 Ай бұрын
The only reason people know who Craig jones is and he is able to make money from instructional, sponsors, of, ect…is because he came out of nowhere with a great performance at adcc. You don’t make money at the local naga tournament. It’s just a chance to compete. You don’t make much money at adcc because it’s a chance to showcase your skills versus the best in the world and a stage for attention. That people are making money off of a hobby they love should be amazing in and of itself
@jiu-jitsu-lab
@jiu-jitsu-lab Ай бұрын
You make a good point
@gracemercy5825
@gracemercy5825 26 күн бұрын
I know what adcc is because Craig Jones competed in it... Joe Rogan gave me Eddie Bravo Eddie gave me EBI... EBI 14 gave me Ryan vs Jones... following Jones I discovered adcc my first adcc event i watched adcc 2022
@ericmulka
@ericmulka 25 күн бұрын
Brother, this isn’t a hobby for a lot of people, it’s a professional sport. And like in other professional sports you get paid at the highest level… high school footballers don’t make money either but college and professional do..
@jbb8261
@jbb8261 24 күн бұрын
I’ve been a Craig fan since 2017 when he almost broke Gordon’s arm and gordon somehow weaseled out of it
@phat111
@phat111 23 күн бұрын
Bootlicker. Company I work for as an apprentice trained me therefore when they severely underpay me years later I should stay cos they ‘made me’. Not how the world works bro
@srenpedersen6558
@srenpedersen6558 Ай бұрын
You keep going to show your still the best. So ppl will keep buying what you are selling.
@adriandavodavo3427
@adriandavodavo3427 27 күн бұрын
Craig is who he is because he has competed in the ADCC, if he's not happy he con move on to other arenas or MMA or do his own comp. ADCC has always been like the Olympics of grappling. And like Olympic champions they make their money after competing and wining in them. Don't bite the hand that feeds you!
@zenithperformancefitness6897
@zenithperformancefitness6897 27 күн бұрын
That hand isn't feeding him or the other athletes well. That's the point.
@adriandavodavo3427
@adriandavodavo3427 26 күн бұрын
@@zenithperformancefitness6897 Yes it has. After he competed in the ADCC he's name and career has taken off substantially enable for him to do all the things he has done to feed him self and his entourage. It's great he wants to do he's own thing and event, good for him but boycotting the event that made him is kinda lame. Think about all the people that paid for tickets, flights, accommodation, etc... He could of done a better event than the ADCC with more price money. but no, he's piggy back riding of the ADCC to have impact. He's a business man, and he only cares about him making $$ not about the athletes, gyms, fans or the sport. (Great business move though)
@jamessouthorn8121
@jamessouthorn8121 25 күн бұрын
Nearly all bjj events at the highest level run at a loss
@aplus1080
@aplus1080 26 күн бұрын
This isn't rocket science. THERE IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY COMPETITORS $100,000 FOR EVENTS. EVERYONE is doing their part in trying to built the sport, but we're just not there yet. Mo is the man. His desire to put ADCC in a legit venue means less money to competitors in the short term, and that sucks, but it's for the sport's long-term interest.
@loveandoneness.n.e.t
@loveandoneness.n.e.t Ай бұрын
He's got it completely backwards. If it wasn't for the big stage of adcc he wouldn't have all that other income. What a doof
@003halmr
@003halmr 28 күн бұрын
Nonsense. Craig has become so famous due to the B-team you tube channel and coaching prominent UFC fighters. The vast majority of ADCC winners are unknown outside of the word of BJJ.
@megaRv24
@megaRv24 26 күн бұрын
Ah Yes, that is why Yuri Simoes is one the most popular grapplers around
@eddiebanuelos9160
@eddiebanuelos9160 28 күн бұрын
YOU DONT HAVE TO COMPETE
@nikzombi
@nikzombi 24 күн бұрын
is that sarcasm or an invitation to rnc you?
@jsilva6316
@jsilva6316 23 күн бұрын
If it wasn't for ADCC, there wouldn't be such a platform for any jiu-jitsu athlete to make a living. Look at the legends of the sport. Most of you critics are just white belts that need education on who really needs props for paying athletes when they were competing for a cheap medal. Give respect to ADCC
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