Agreed, all he’s trying to do is get his peers paid. Can’t be mad at that

That was definitely a crazy situation

ADCC is dog shit to the athletes? haha Ok. You must be new here.

Is that the guy who swept Michael Pixley and didn't get the points? I was rooting for Pixley but that Deep-Half sweep deserved a score.

@@dagus834 yea that was him

@@aplus1080 considering you train for years pay your own way all those years to go to as mny trials as you can which you also pay to enter. To then win trials, be entered into the "top" Bjj competition in the world, and leave with nothing unless you win, and even when you win the guy playing the drums next to you just for a walk out on the finals, or the person announcing names makes more then you, yes they are dog shit to majority of the athletes. These are essentially the best professional BJJ athletes on earth and there is not that many of them and 99 percent of them get paid nothing. But Mo still wants to pay 2 mill to rent out T-Mobile when Thomas center seats the same and cost 20k and is right down the road. It is an ego thing and the athletes that actually make the competition what it is and give the most are on the back burner

Good Points!

On it my friend. You can possibly help make a change!

I fully appreciate your line of reasoning, but judo is an olympic sport that has national funding. And JAPAN?! There isn't ANYWHERE that level of institutional support for bjj. I agree it would be great if we get to that point, but as of now, bjj is a purely private sport driven by love. The consequence of this is that there is minimal money available. Craig has valid criticisms but he's focused on the here-and-now while Mo is focused on the future.

@@aplus1080 you never get funding overnight. You get by making the sport grow and being popular & exciting. And eventually, down the line you might get funded or sponsored or whatever. But if you keep paying 10,000 bucks the winner regardless of the growth and revenue, you pretend to help and hinder the very people that make up the event. Craig didn't just criticize : CJI is on, you are paid $10,001 to participate, you leave with a million if you win. Tackett is participating and I can easily imagine everyone leaving out ADCC behind until Mo is forced to make serious adjustments. That's a real good move in the right direction for the future Not what Mo does UPDATE: Just saw that Fion Davis join CJI also

Well said

Agree.. but a business person would say he's losing money.. how long can he do that ? I want to see craig succeed

Pulling off ONE event where you pay fighters more than ADCC is not the triumph you think it is. ADCC has been going for 25 years. Anyone who is THIS concerned, should just volunteer to help Mo secure sponsors and funding for fighters. That would be dope as shit.

@@aplus1080is actually is a triumph because fighters will have more leverage not to fight for stingy organizers ever again. Adcc will either up their pay or suffer. I think what Craig is doing is genius.

It helps that Zuckerberg has given him $1million upfront lol 😂

Down the line is not stupid. There isn't money to have 1) legitimate exposure and 2) give the athletes big paydays. There are competing costs. Gordon has said for years that the athletes need to do their part to expose themselves and Craig has been exposing himself for years now. But STILL, the money just isn't there. Craig's primary criticism of ADCC is that they chose the wrong venue and could've used that money to pay the athletes more. That's a pretty weak criticism and really does reflect the gap between short v long-term thinking.

@@aplus1080 competitive hotdog eating pays out more money than winning ADCC worlds. Are you seriously arguing that that's more popular and there's more money in that than BJJ? And they're paying for crap that's objectively bad. The woman from Pride screaming the athletes names for an hour was torture. And she definitely got more pay than any athlete. So do the drummers. Hell, it seems that literally everyone involved in ADCC Worlds is paid more than the athletes.

There's money for sure.....you saw the crowds at the last one.....and they have sold out t mobile arena and tickets can't be cheap.........some of that money needs to goto the athletes

Grappling is not big enough like mma. Adcc is not a league. Theres no belts being put on the line constantly. There's no championship fights all year long for different weight categories. It's one tournament. Agreed the organizers could pay the fighters more if their margins are in the green. But they won't pay anything comparable to a league sport. It's not the same as a league sport that plays anywhere from 20-150 games a year with billion dollar TV deals. Billions in sponsors. Constant exposure and marketing opportunities. Unions and cba's. Comparing grappling even to the ufc doesn't make sense. Very different. Dana is right about fighter pay. Either youre good enough to be here year after year or you're not. Just making the ufc roster doesn't mean you made it and should be taken care of financially no matter what. Win fights or someone else will. Fans need to connect with fighters emotionally because only a tiny percentage of fans watching mma actually understand what's happening technically(Danaher quote). There are too many martial arts being used in mma who understands all of that. Even coaches understand only the martial art they teach and not every martial art in use. Boxing coach understands combat Sambo?? Ufc needs characters or its dead. Fights alone with no drama are not appealing enough to everyday people. Grappling matches alone are a boring spectator sport. I'm sorry but it's true. Especially when the fighters decide to not engage until the very end. Different rules for different tourneys. Not exciting enough. Not drama filled. That 15 minutes to pass guard was so exciting and spectacular. NOT. It's too slow and technical. Unless Craig is planning on holding monthly tournaments that pay a 10,001 show up fee rather then holding a one off tourney proves nothing in my eyes. A couple people will get a big payday. If you're injured then kick rocks. So sorry. Not that many people will make money from it. It does nothing to increase fighter pay, all it proves is someone can hold a 1 time event with the right sponsors.

@@gsmarchand not to be rude, but are you even listening to the arguments being made? We're not comparing Jiu-Jitsu to MMA or the UFC. We're comparing it to COMPETITIVE HOTDOG EATING!!!!! That's definitely way less popular and still pays more than Jiu-Jitsu. And it's just watching someone eat. Definitely boring as hell to watch.

For ONE event ONE time with NO FUTURE. Sure. Maybe.

@@aplus1080 🤷‍♂️ We'll see I guess.

It’s all about mindset. Craig is exposing how greasy and shortsighted Mo is 👏🏾

Absolutely. Winning ADCC will boost your seminar and instructional numbers massively, but that doesn't mean the athletes shouldn't be paid as much as financially possible.

There is only Worlds and ADCC. "Athletes need to boycott the olympics!" Sure. They could.

@@aplus1080there are some athletes who never do the Olympics and out-earn ones who compete in them regularly though…

What is sport washing

Thank you!

@@jiu-jitsu-lab You might want to add some punch with some graphics for values. Like 1st is 10k side by side with the video cuts or whatever. Good effort on this topic nonetheless.

OneFC is a financial joke. The fact it still exists is a testament to laundering more than legitimacy.

10,000 for first prize while tickets to get in cost 5,000 a piece is ridiculous.

You make a good point

I know what adcc is because Craig Jones competed in it... Joe Rogan gave me Eddie Bravo Eddie gave me EBI... EBI 14 gave me Ryan vs Jones... following Jones I discovered adcc my first adcc event i watched adcc 2022

Brother, this isn’t a hobby for a lot of people, it’s a professional sport. And like in other professional sports you get paid at the highest level… high school footballers don’t make money either but college and professional do..

I’ve been a Craig fan since 2017 when he almost broke Gordon’s arm and gordon somehow weaseled out of it

Bootlicker. Company I work for as an apprentice trained me therefore when they severely underpay me years later I should stay cos they ‘made me’. Not how the world works bro

That hand isn't feeding him or the other athletes well. That's the point.

@@zenithperformancefitness6897 Yes it has. After he competed in the ADCC he's name and career has taken off substantially enable for him to do all the things he has done to feed him self and his entourage. It's great he wants to do he's own thing and event, good for him but boycotting the event that made him is kinda lame. Think about all the people that paid for tickets, flights, accommodation, etc... He could of done a better event than the ADCC with more price money. but no, he's piggy back riding of the ADCC to have impact. He's a business man, and he only cares about him making $$ not about the athletes, gyms, fans or the sport. (Great business move though)

Nonsense. Craig has become so famous due to the B-team you tube channel and coaching prominent UFC fighters. The vast majority of ADCC winners are unknown outside of the word of BJJ.

Ah Yes, that is why Yuri Simoes is one the most popular grapplers around

is that sarcasm or an invitation to rnc you?