In the Chapecoense accident, the pilot was the company's owner. The company had problems paying before refueling and was financially unstable. I believe the pilot was avoiding the MAY DAY to avoid the investigation that would certainly discover the nonstop in Bogotá and probably stop its flights.

I remember as a young pilot being told a cautionary tale by a Marine major. A few years prior he and another lieutenant were transiting from Florida up the East Coast in a Huey. They were carrying an internal fuel bag so that they could fly non-stop. Whenever they reached a low fuel state they would turn on an electric pump to transfer fuel to the regular tanks. At one point he reached down to turn on the pump and found that it was already on, and he realized that they had forgot to turn it off the last time they refilled the tanks. Their extra fuel had been vented from the overflow vent. As luck would have it they weren't too far from an Air Force base so they contacted the tower and requested to land and have a fuel truck meet them at the end of the field. The tower asked if they were declaring emergency fuel to which he replied that they'd rather not. The tower allowed them to land and a fuel truck came out. However, one of the base safety officers also came out and had them fill out a refueling report. He and the other pilot spent months worrying and waiting for the report to come back to their command. It never did. His advice: Own up to your mistakes so that others can learn and to save yourself many sleepless nights.

"We are Marshall " is the movie to watch to see how the town/team recovered.

On October 2, 1970, about six weeks prior to the Marshall University crash, 31 passengers - 14 of whom were Wichita State, football players - were killed in a similar airplane crash in Colorado. The cause of the crash was determined to be pilot error - controlled flight into terrain.

If LaMía had declared Mayday for fuel upon entering Medellin airspace, I wonder if they would have lived. Either way, you never gamble when the curb is 25,000+ meters down.

The second one really agitated me. Refusing to refuel when you know the plane has the bare minimum to approach your destination. What did they think was going to happen?!?!?

RIP to everyone in the first crash (shocking how brutal it was despite having occurred only a small distance above the ground), and to everyone EXCEPT the pilots in charge in the second crash.

It's kinda sad watching this channel and seeing how many accidents would've been prevented if not for flight crew arrogance.

Again, total pilot incompetence cost lives.

Thank you for remembering the Chapecoense tragedy, it was something very sad and hard for all the soccer fans on the southern side of the American continent, South America mourned that accident. Great recreation as always. Greetings from Argentina.

We are Marshall. Everyone in the Tri-state knows someone or a family affected. There were a lot of factors, the weather, steep terrain, the nearby and confusing lights of a refinery and lack of ILS. This flight went almost directly over my home a few miles away. Whenever I fly into HTS I think about this tragedy.

I remember the Chapecoense tragedy. Read all about it and watched lots of news and documentary on it. This happened to a Brazilian team, I'm from Brazil. Such a horrible tragedy! 3 players survived. The reserve goalkeeper, lost part of both legs, and a defender, he made a full recovery and went back to playing and this other player, he eventually recovered but not enough to return to playing.

Shocking decision making by the pilots. TFC, thanks for the video, the second crash was very hard to watch and listen, running out of fuel because you took a chance and changed flight plan is hard to understand.

My dad almost walked on the Marshall football team in 1969, but opted to stay closer to home and attend Madison College (which later became James Madison University) where he played football instead. Scary to think about.

So sad! They were so close to home. So close to the airport and then this horrible tragedy!

As horrible as the Marshall disaster was, I have to point out that the crash of Sabena 548 (which killed the entire 1961 US Figure Skating World Team) is the worst sports disaster in American history. It took six decades and a global pandemic before US Figure Skating allowed an entire team to fly on the same plane-in the latter case, the charter to the 2022 Beijing Olympics.

I worked on the film, We Are Marshall, as an extra and am about 30 min east of Huntington. It still hangs in the air there.

On average there are three to four general aviation accidents with one to two fatalities in the US EVERY SINGLE DAY. This is a gold mine of content. Those who recognized this (such as Hoover over at Pilot Debrief) are putting up extraordinary numbers, as channels that cover the same incidents of which we are all too familiar watch their numbers continue to fall off. And they wonder why.

There was another college football team lost in a plane crash in 1970. My dear high school friend, Richard Stine, and 28 other people from Wichita State University died in a plane crash on their way to play Utah State. There were two charter planes carrying the team, coaches, university officials, state legislators and others to the game. Richard was on the "gold" plane, a Martin 404 twin engine propliner. Other team members and staff were on the "black" plane which arrived safely in Logan Utah. The gold plane crashed into a Colorado mountain near Loveland pass. It was called pilot error. The plane carried 37 souls. 29 died immediately, two more died later of their injuries.

I remember flying Southern a few times in the very early 70s to see family and friends in Yugoslavia. My family would fly from TLH-Orlando-MIA to connect with National to London. From London to Belgrade on either PA or BEA. SO was a popular carrier out of TLH back then.

Please make a video about the Oklahoma State University young team killed in a plane crash in January of 2001. I think it was disorientation because of the snow storm. I believe several team members were killed, a sports announcer whose wife was a flight attendant.

It's hard to understand how many of these fatal crashes are caused by pilots inconceivably ignoring standard protocols. It makes me wonder how much of this goes on and puts so many members of the flying public at more risk than they ever realize. The Marshall crash was just stupid. I think the pilots simply forgot there was an MDA restriction and they just blew through 1200 feet right into the ground. The LaMia flight is more concerning. They gambled and lost without any concern for the passengers. Gambling on "Can we get there flying right to the edge" is something a commercial pilot can't do. You want risk your life flying your Cessna on fumes, go right ahead but leave me out of it!

I took a deep dive into Southern Airways 932 (partly in turn from the original video, and partly from Southern 242 as a whole) and was quite surprised by the way these pilot acted. You would think that the conditions they found themselves in would make them aware of there surroundings, but i guess get-there-itis did what it does best, distract.

The piloting in both of these incidents is beyond irresponsible. Completely avoidable if protocol was actually followed.

Im from Brazil and i love this channel

Crazy and so sad as always. Thank you for your amazing work! May I ask you to create a video about the crash of Lokomotiv Yaroslavl's hockey team in September 2011?

On December 13, 1977 a DC3 aircraft crashed shortly after take off. It was carrying the University of Evansville basketball team.

TFC, I’ve been with your channel since 2018. I appreciate your video style and how you explain things. I took your older video style and used it for my channel, hope you don’t mind. :)

The song "DOA" by Bloodrock was supposed to be about the W VA plane crash.

Small nit "flight crews must execute a missed approach if the visual reference has not been obtained on reaching the MDA" its a minimum descent altitude. The other would be the decision altitude or DA. MDAs mean you can follow the altitude until you reach the missed approach point or MAP, usually located at the runway threshold. This is why MDA approaches are often called "dive and drive approaches", because you descent to the MDA, then toodle along for a while looking for the runway.

Great vid, love this channel. I would love to see the Munich air disaster in 1958 6 February. Manchester United Busby Babes rip!

I remember when Flight Channel first covered the LA Mia flight in an earlier episode years back..

So the second flight was doomed the day they certified the captains pilots license. The aircraft had 4 engines. They could have easily shut one down to save fuel and probably even 2 in an emergency.

The Marshall crash is still rather odd to me as it would seem that visibility was SUPER poor as they couldn't even see the ground let alone a lighted runway...........

Your work never fail to amaze me, keep it up dude.. good job👍

Vectores, vectores..... How sad!! Bad decision

Pretty sure the first video is a remake. Been a lot of those on here recently.

The sports crash that comes to mind first for me is Sabena Flight 548, when the entire 1961 US Figure Skating Team was lost on the way to the world championships.

Such tragedy... and for the 2016 flight, for ZERO excuses...! Great job TFC.

TFC is re-running incidents when there is a bunch of new incidents occurring on 737 MAX aircraft lately.

What about Wichita State? 1970 plane crash carrying their football team flying to Utah with a similar situation. Crashed due to pilot error. All passengers died.

the incompetence of these pilots is beyond understanding

They made a movie about it: "^We Are Marshall". I was at Penn State at the time. The crash sent tremors through all college football teams and student bodies.

I suspected the first one was about Marshall. If you want to see a detailed "documentary" of the incident, watch the movie We are Marshall. I don't understand what either set of pilots could have been thinking to do the things they did, especially the one in Colombia. It was absolute insanity to fly nonstop when they knew the plane wouldn't make it. Stupidity should only be painful to the stupid. The innocent shouldn't have to be the ones to suffer, and that goes for the Marshall crash, too.

Here’s the thing. I guess we should stop bothering him to try to make new episodes. We could be stressing him out so much.

Even a small kid will understand if you tell him that if the runway is not in sight don't go below MDA and initiate a Go around. The Captain and the First Officer did not understand this elementary aviation rule and took their lives as well as the lives of a entire football team and their fans and associates.

Our Marshall brothers, sisters, cousins that were lost still haunt us. WVU fans wept for those lost and still to this day.

Nice explanation of approaches for the 1970s.

I attended Marshall University from 2011-2016. Every November 14th, the Memorial Fountain is turned off until the Spring Semester. During the 2013 football season, Marshall wore special decals with the #75 in remembrance of those who perished in November 1970. We are... Marshall.

The landscape around Bogota and Medellin is extremely undulating with steep hills, dense aforestation and almost no flat ground whatsoever. There is absolutely no area to ditch an aircraft, especially at night. They really were doomed, due to the captain's poor decision. Also, Bogota is located at 9,000ft altitude, so flying at 15,000ft doesn't give much room for error.

Both accidents resulted from evident instances of inadequate piloting, insufficient training, poor decision-making, and limited experience. Minimum Descent Altitudes (MDA) are established for critical reasons. Pilots, upon spotting potential visuals below the MDA, should still opt for a go-around and adhere to missed approach procedures. It is imperative to follow approach charts meticulously; they are meticulously designed and planned with specific intentions in mind. Tragically, these incidents led to unnecessary loss of lives due to the pilots' incompetence and reckless actions, which are incompatible with aviation standards.

Two sportsball tragedies. The second one provided no surprises as it concerned the blatantly poor decision-making of the foreign aircrew.

WE ARE!!!

It's unbelievable to me that the pilots did not take on adequate fuel. Nothing like running out of gas and losing your electric at 9,000 feet. I knew about the Marshall plane crash but you enlightened me to the cause of the accident. I can't imagine flying blind in rain, cloud and fog with no visual or electric markers to navigate by. Both cases are extremely sad God bless the first responders, the families of the dead and the survivors.

I think the title of this video should have been "Deadly Touchdowns"

wonder if the picture on 1:18 is the people actually who got on the plane or is it the whole team? Is Nate Ruffin in the picture? Is he #40? (Survived because injured and not at the game or inside the plane ,he would be an advocate for building another team so as to continue Football at Marshall. The crash site is supposed to be very near a cemetery where my mother's sister,sister's husband and two infants that died at birth from my mother's sister are buried

Please make a video about the 2021 Colorado Mid-Air collision

In the second episode, they didn't land in Bogota because gas at Medellin was 5 cents per gallon cheaper.

Hey there, are you able to do AAL 587 in MSFS?

Can you make a video of the British European Airways Flight 609 6th feb 1958?

Once again, ego will get you killed.

I think south american airlines who fly quad jets have a really bad habit of informing ATC about fuel emergencies

huge pilate error!!! Ashame we don't have cockpit recordings. Just some note, please correct: " did not ARREST" the descent, and replace it with "did not stop" Arrest is used for different things.

is this the Football team referenced in the movie Beetleguise?

Better to have fuel and not need it than to need fuel and not have it. A disaster in the making.

Would like to see a video on the Munich disaster please

TheFlightChannel, can you do Southwest Air Lines Flight 611

I think I'll refrain from ever flying charter.

Gees, How many houses are crammed in to Huntingdon, shocking..

When you Really don’t want the needle at “E”.

These were the first bird strikes when the birds were in a nest. 🐦

It reminds me of the time Kobe Bryant crashed that helicopter into Lynyrd Skynyrd’s plane and Buddy Holly died. 😞

Can you do Egypt air flight 804?

“We are Marshall” movie starring Matthew McConaughey is an excellent movie!!! Sad… I have watched it many times; but I always make sure I’m in the mood for it😢

What the heck are boosters?

Houston, we have a problem! We played Russian Roulet with our fuel supply and now we are Toast🤐🤐🤐

can you do the witchita state crash please😊

I beg u do bek air

So basically, two dvmb@55 pilots kill their px’s. Off topic, I just love to hear Colombian women talk, love that accent.

We have a used all the fuel problem

This a reupload, come on

"Flight crews must initiate a missed approach if visual reference has not been obtained on reaching the MDA" - This complete nonsense. You are confusing MDA with the decision altitude on precision approaches.

Never fly with a discount or small airline plane.

But pilot diversity is much more important than pilot knowledge….

All these old videos make me wonder why anyone flew back before they really figuered out flying tech in the 90s.

wow. ok

I hate flying yet I keep watching these vids which make it worse for me. lol Think at this point I'm just validating my own resolve to never want to put my life in the hands of pilots. If they fuck up like this I'm guaranteed to die. At least in a car, I can make own attempt to save myself from an accident.

The channel is great, but you need to slow down with those subtitles, it's too fast and there's no time to read, I have to stop the video all the time.

This is why I only fly airlines that have professional pilots - unlike the clowns flying that second aircraft. Absolutely unbelievable how they reacted to an ensuing emergency and continued to let it develop.

Being poor is bad for your health

I'll just swing over to Google to look for the facts you left out about Flight 932. Were there any survivors? We're not told. Sloppy work.

Do we really want to start hiring our pilots based on quota now?...

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7/11 was an outside job

Ma i controllori di volo e i piloti stessi dovrebbero comunicare solo nella lingua inglese, perché usano la madre lingua ? X tutte le vittime dei due incidenti Riposate in Pace 🙏✝️🌺

That football team hit the field pretty hard that evening.

😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

Most of the latest episodes are like clickbait, just reposting old episodes again under different titles.

RIP to Marshall and Chapecoense players 😞

There was no landing. Thus, this aircraft didn't "crash just before landing." It crashed "on approach" or "on final."