CRAZY Cop Pulls Over Bikers... You Won't Believe What Happens Next

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Caleb Nelson

Caleb Nelson

10 жыл бұрын

Story:
We were 4 bikers on our way back from Flight 93 Memorial in Stoystown, PA. My friend and I get pulled over for crossing on double yellow.After waiting for citations for 10-15 minutes the other 2 bikers (my brother Ryan and other friend) walk up to see whats going on and just to wait with us. They stand off to side as instructed by the officer outside the vehicle (Officer Smith) After another 5 minutes or so of casual conversation among ourselves and Smith, he asks for ID from Ryan, who responds, "I am required to show you ID?" Smith responds, "I am a police officer." Ryan says, "I understand that but whats the reason." He responds by saying, "You came on my scene". Smith asks for his name which Ryan gives. At this point the other officer (Williams) gets out of the squad car and asks whats going on. Smith says that Ryan isn't showing ID and immediately the Williams says, If you don't show us ID right now we can arrest you, tow your bike, and then you have to pay bail. This is when my brother says, "someone get this on video". So I pull out my phone and the following occurs.
After the Video: They seize my phone and play the video, which has audio obviously. I am then arrested by Williams for audio taping them without their consent (Wiretapping Law), which according to the ACLU does not apply to officers doing their regular duties in public. So I'm arrested as well. Eventually my friend calls his police officer friend who talks with Williams. Then we are both released as long as we give them the video and delete it. So they continue to seize my phone to make us follow them back to the station to transfer the file. After not being able to transfer it due to software issues the Smith takes a video of my video with his iPhone. I am then told to delete the video so I stealthy slide to the next video, which Williams created while seizing my phone (he had no idea how to use a smartphone) and deleted that one. Now I'm sharing this ridiculous video of a cop on a power trip arresting innocent civilians after they visited a 9/11 memorial.
Court Case:
In the end my brother was found not guilty, because the judge had a feeling it was all about refusing to show ID. The judge did however scold my brother, telling him "you shouldn't have been there". During the court case, my brother was not allowed to present the video because the judge confirmed that the Wiretapping Law made the audio recording illegal and not admissible evidence in court. Also the officer, Williams was exaggerating details and making it seem as if my brother was disorderly and a threat to the officers safety. Williams said when they told the two approaching bikers to stand off to the side my brother kept approaching (lied under oath). Smith even proved this point when he gave his testimony and said when asked to stand off to the side of the road they did. Williams also said my brother caused a unsafe road condition by making them stop traffic as he was being arrested, which was completely out of his control because...he was already under arrest.
The onsite arrest was removed from his record as he was found not guilty.

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@noplannedparenthood
@noplannedparenthood 10 жыл бұрын
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
@twigboy148
@twigboy148 10 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad this video didn't get deleted. It takes seeing it for real to believe how ridiculous the whole thing was.
@sparksvidz565
@sparksvidz565 6 жыл бұрын
Old man looks like he needs to be in a senior citizens home lmfao
@headlightguy
@headlightguy 7 жыл бұрын
That old cop needs to be terminated ....imagine how many times he has violated somebody's rights due to lack of education
@eljackryan3681
@eljackryan3681 6 жыл бұрын
headlightguy that old pig needs to be put in jail
@deweyunknown3745
@deweyunknown3745 6 жыл бұрын
It’s not lack of education on pigs part, they know the law and they’re intentionally breaking it!!!
@cliftonbrockelman2773
@cliftonbrockelman2773 6 жыл бұрын
The older police forgot more about the law than any of you punks will ever know so shut up bitches
@jamesedwards6589
@jamesedwards6589 6 жыл бұрын
headlightguy you can't be arrested for not giving Identification if you haven't broken the law
@Blueskyz8
@Blueskyz8 6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 you made my day boss i cannot stop laughing😂😂😂😂
@jdrake33
@jdrake33 8 жыл бұрын
Wow. That looks like a career ending stunt on their part.
@Jo_Kuiper
@Jo_Kuiper 8 жыл бұрын
Play it! My answer would be: no, get a court order!
@davidnixon1697
@davidnixon1697 4 жыл бұрын
That cop looks like he should have retired years ago, he looks like he's in his 80's
@singin8324
@singin8324 7 жыл бұрын
where's the part where I wont believe what happens next
@tonylawlor8833
@tonylawlor8833 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, thats what I was waiting on, and then nothing.
@jonmelon9792
@jonmelon9792 5 жыл бұрын
hyped blurb, aka clickbait.
@TwiceStruck
@TwiceStruck 4 жыл бұрын
@@tonylawlor8833 actually it makes alot of sense, even you didn't believe U watch it until the end.
@HowardFarmer
@HowardFarmer 8 жыл бұрын
Instead of Shade Police Department it should be known as Shady Police Department.
@weareanonymous351
@weareanonymous351 8 жыл бұрын
Wow your so clever smh
@joshuafuller2536
@joshuafuller2536 7 жыл бұрын
C'mon Mann you're so clever! 👏
@morecowbell2181
@morecowbell2181 8 жыл бұрын
"You Won't Believe What Happens Next" - - - ???? Did I miss something.....
@CalebNelson90
@CalebNelson90 8 жыл бұрын
trolol :D I changed the title solely for views and it worked perfectly. They have gone up 390% compared to last month with the previous title.
@morecowbell2181
@morecowbell2181 8 жыл бұрын
+Caleb Nelson well it got me here lol so seems effective
@CalebNelson90
@CalebNelson90 8 жыл бұрын
:) haha have a great weekend!
@morecowbell2181
@morecowbell2181 8 жыл бұрын
+Caleb Nelson ditto bro :)
@daytona1212
@daytona1212 8 жыл бұрын
Yes...life.
@Kemoswavvy
@Kemoswavvy 7 жыл бұрын
That's the oldest police officer I have ever seen.
@tomcullen7116
@tomcullen7116 6 жыл бұрын
Your buddy wants you to go to jail so he can figure this out
@lachmonster7563
@lachmonster7563 8 жыл бұрын
*back at the police station* "hi i arrested this man for not giving id" "youre fired"
@sik59rt
@sik59rt 9 жыл бұрын
Video recording pigs does not violate PA's bullshit wiretapping law. Especially when they are in public.
@jamesrice7329
@jamesrice7329 6 жыл бұрын
What a brother. You showed those cops. With brothers like that who needs enemies.
@Lycan_24_7
@Lycan_24_7 4 жыл бұрын
Those cops lied to you and used the threat of jail to intimidate you. Wish I would have seen this video back when it happened.
@AgileCoast
@AgileCoast 9 жыл бұрын
"Stop and identify" statutes are statute laws in the United States that authorize police[1] to legally obtain the identification of someone whom they reasonably suspect has committed a crime. If the person is not reasonably suspected of committing a crime, they are not required to provide identification, even in states with stop and identify statutes.
@maflones
@maflones 9 жыл бұрын
AgileCoast 1 Idiot, the pigs demanded ID, which you never have to show.
@Joesworldttv
@Joesworldttv 9 жыл бұрын
AgileCoast 1 hence the words reasonable suspicion.
@danielpelletier2347
@danielpelletier2347 9 жыл бұрын
OK. All courts are adversarial. Who's rights has this man violated? Statutes are statutes and laws are laws. What evidence do they have to prove it applies to anyone just cause of there physical location. If courts are based on facts and evidence than what evidence is there to prove there opinions? Every bureaucrat spews forth there opinions and somehow its a fact. Well a badge and a gun and there willingness to kill us does not turn opinions into facts.
@robertroberts8651
@robertroberts8651 7 жыл бұрын
WHAT PISSES ME IF IS WE NEVER FIND OUT WHAT BECAME OF ALL THIS BS!!!!
@CalebNelson90
@CalebNelson90 7 жыл бұрын
it is in the description at the bottom. (court case)
@robertroberts8651
@robertroberts8651 7 жыл бұрын
Caleb Nelson thanks and I apologize! go trump
@CalebNelson90
@CalebNelson90 7 жыл бұрын
no problem. yerp, looks like he's got it.
@bbigrocker1
@bbigrocker1 7 жыл бұрын
Be careful what you wish for............
@jerseyjim8365
@jerseyjim8365 7 жыл бұрын
Robert Roberts you can read what happened by touching the little dark triangle next to the title of the video.
@freddiedejoint9932
@freddiedejoint9932 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a cop, unless there is probable cause and that’s meaning a crime, You do not have to provide ID , if they arrest you say nothing, the courts will dismiss it and you will sue for false arrest
@switzer76
@switzer76 5 жыл бұрын
He doesn’t want the other guy to give his id to the cop but at the end he says to the cop “you already have my id!” Great friend
@Joesworldttv
@Joesworldttv 9 жыл бұрын
How many mistakes did the officers make in this video, lets find out. #1: 1st Amendment violated. I couldn't tell but maybe a 4th Amendment violation. No miranda rights read while being placed under arrest. Yeah this is getting thrown out/dismissed. If I were you, I would sue, and go after both of those officers badges to have them decommisioned. Was there ever any reasonable suspicion, or probable cause to show you did anything unlawful?
@CalebNelson90
@CalebNelson90 8 жыл бұрын
Joseph Montalbano no...thats why were are arguing with them. when he says, "we can arrest you simply for not showing identification" then its a sealed deal. these guys operate over the law
@Noir_mvp
@Noir_mvp 8 жыл бұрын
How could it be illegal for you to audio record when it's literally protected by the first amendment?
@jimmiizzy6283
@jimmiizzy6283 8 жыл бұрын
What the hell is up with that wiretapping law being used to not allow the video in the court. I think and I hope that that has been thoroughly overturned by court precedent by now. In public, video and audio recording is permitted, at least it should be. Especially the recording of police officers on duty.
@jimifender22
@jimifender22 8 жыл бұрын
+jimmi izzy my understanding of the law is that audio recording is illegal in the event that you try to record private conversations...however, police while in the middle of their duties are in the middle of a public service, which by its very definition IS NOT considered to be private, thus police officers on duty do not have a right to/expectation to assume privacy, so unless I'm incorrect this video should have been admissible in court.
@chrish1993
@chrish1993 5 жыл бұрын
you do not have to show ID for no reason. What law did you break? Nothing.... Sue em all
@dallismiller6319
@dallismiller6319 6 жыл бұрын
If you crossed the double yellow line then you are a danger to the public and then you have the audacity not to cooperate. RUFKM? The road lawyer need to be arrested for interfering.
@coloradosquibnic7697
@coloradosquibnic7697 5 жыл бұрын
And the next call should be to the ACLU legal department
@zachiii258
@zachiii258 8 жыл бұрын
Incompetent police. No surprise
@blondzruleall5443
@blondzruleall5443 6 жыл бұрын
You should file a complaint and a lawsuit for them violating your rights and lying under oath in which damaged your reputation, costs you time and money as well as mental anguish.
@MotoMadness
@MotoMadness 7 жыл бұрын
Hey mate would it be OK to feature this in a cops vs bikers edit some time? Credited in the description and comments sections. Thanks, MM.
@TheBarnem13
@TheBarnem13 7 жыл бұрын
Title change requiered my friend
@brianseverance6490
@brianseverance6490 5 жыл бұрын
I know that cop on the left, that's officer Dunlop his belly Dunlop over his belt.
@MrMambott
@MrMambott 7 жыл бұрын
The old fella ,,True Keystone Cop right there lol
@joeyork9907
@joeyork9907 6 жыл бұрын
"I can arrest out right now." equals "I have absolute power over you." "You look like you're up to no good. Therefore, you're under arrest".
@landen99
@landen99 8 жыл бұрын
When you use the roadways under license, you must show that license on request to LEO for any reason and at any time. It is the law. Learn it, live it, love it; lest it burn you. You are not obligated to answer any of the LEO questions, including "are you recording?". Also, it is lawful in every state to record anyone in public without consent.
@stephenkeesee5263
@stephenkeesee5263 8 жыл бұрын
Not true. www.flexyourrights.org/faqs/when-can-police-ask-for-id/ "As of 2013, 24 states had stop-and-identify laws. Regardless of your state’s law, keep in mind that police can never compel you to identify yourself without reasonable suspicion to believe you’re involved in illegal activity."
@landen99
@landen99 8 жыл бұрын
Nice link. Now check out mine: www.txdps.state.tx.us/internetforms/Forms/DL-7.pdf See page 9 www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/TN/htm/TN.521.htm See Subchapter B 521.021 and 521.025
@stephenkeesee5263
@stephenkeesee5263 8 жыл бұрын
Andy Landen Actual legal precedent: “The application of Tex. Penal Code Ann., Tit. 8, § 38.02 (1974), to detain appellant and require him to identify himself violated the Fourth Amendment because the officers lacked any reasonable suspicion to believe appellant was engaged or had engaged in criminal conduct. Accordingly, appellant may not be punished for refusing to identify himself, and the conviction is Reversed.” Brown v. Texas, 443 U.S. 47 (1979). “It is clear petitioner was arrested and convicted for his refusal to answer Officer Jennings’ question requesting that petitioner identify himself. This is impermissible even in the context of a lawful investigatory stop.” Spring v. Caldwell, 516 F. Supp. 1223 (S.D. Tex. 1981), reversed on other grounds 692 F.2d 994 (5th Cir. 1982). “First, Officer Lowe obtained identification from each occupant of the automobile though he had no legal basis whatever for demanding them.” Lewis v. State, 664 S.W.2d 345 (Tex. Crim. App. 1984). “Moreover, the Supreme Court has previously dealt with a case in which Texas police officers demanded that an individual identify himself even though they had no reasonable suspicion that he had committed a crime. In Brown v. Texas, the Court [11] ruled that Texas Penal Code Ann. § 38.02 (a), as enacted by the Texas legislature in 1974, was unconstitutional because it allowed an officer to stop and demand identification of an individual without any specific basis or belief that he was involved in criminal activity.” Weddle v. Ferrell, No. 3:99-CV-0453-G, 2000 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 2659, 2000 WL 256891 (N.D. Tex. 2000). “Officers have the right to conduct an investigation of a driver following a traffic violation, but do not have authority to investigate a passenger without reasonable suspicion.” St. George v. State, 237 S.W.3d 720 (Tex. Crim. App. 2007) (holding that arrest of passenger for failure to identify not valid absent legal detention).
@landen99
@landen99 8 жыл бұрын
Stephen Keesee Let's say that you are correctly interpreting the ruling. If the law is not constitutional, then why is it still law?
@stephenkeesee5263
@stephenkeesee5263 8 жыл бұрын
It's not uncommon for outdated or unenforcable laws to remain on the books. Just for fun, check out some ot these www.legalzoom.com/articles/top-craziest-laws-still-on-the-books
@tardis808
@tardis808 10 жыл бұрын
Updates, what happend after this?
@rondohunter8966
@rondohunter8966 5 жыл бұрын
I sure hope they don't hire the lawyer behind the camera.
@A.C31
@A.C31 5 жыл бұрын
This is why you always have plenty of donuts handy.
@paulvancoevering6782
@paulvancoevering6782 8 жыл бұрын
found not guilty,but the judge confirmed that the Wiretapping Law made the audio recording illegal and not admissible evidence in court????
@paulvancoevering6782
@paulvancoevering6782 8 жыл бұрын
I it was a old ass judge that don't know the new laws
@paulvancoevering6782
@paulvancoevering6782 8 жыл бұрын
The AD is looked at by how meany times he wins, An dollars he rings in to the city. so he can move up to a bigger an beater city.
@giserkevermeulen167
@giserkevermeulen167 8 жыл бұрын
No the bikers are stupid or don't have a good lawyer.
@CalebNelson90
@CalebNelson90 8 жыл бұрын
He did not hire a lawyer, he fought his disorderly conduct with an onsite arrest and the judge agreed the only reason he was arrested was for not showing identification and therefore said he was not guilty.
@giserkevermeulen167
@giserkevermeulen167 8 жыл бұрын
Yea, a typical smart Ass who thinks you don't need a lawyer for cases that go to civil law level.
@duke-swtmate4154
@duke-swtmate4154 7 жыл бұрын
I always wonder what policemen really learn during their traineeship. It can't be the law of the constitution, obviously...
@margovallen
@margovallen 5 жыл бұрын
Officer Grandpa is running out of patience. lol
@margovallen
@margovallen 5 жыл бұрын
Before these clowns had your ID's.. y'all could've physically shut them down. Think I couldn't have gramps on his back wondering wtf just happened before he could get to his gun?
@chitownbangin
@chitownbangin 7 жыл бұрын
Wow then an illegal search and seizure of dude's cell phone to make sure no audio was recorded. Yeah, we citizens are in real good hands here in the US...
@southernragenga
@southernragenga 5 жыл бұрын
Right when its completely legal to videotape police or anyone and anything in public view. And can not be considered wiretapping because there is no expectation if privacy in public. These ass hats should have lost their jobs a long time ago.
@gordoha
@gordoha 10 жыл бұрын
Well, it will be a hassle but you have a 20-30K coming to you, less 10 for attorney's fees.
@SoullessProductions
@SoullessProductions 7 жыл бұрын
On the contrary I can believe this happened.
@santoandkim
@santoandkim 7 жыл бұрын
Michael Moretti The public dont hate them! Losers that want to make their job harder do! Like yourself. I hope you need them someday and you become a hypocrite!!! Get a life!!
@robertanthony9674
@robertanthony9674 7 жыл бұрын
They are the problem when they try to make someone a criminal and ask for ID when they have no probable cause ( meaning they do not suspect a crime has been committed ) and try to intimidate! I have had this happen when a cop pulled me over for no reason while driving the speed limit and used into a garage sale! The cop pulled in behind me, turned his overhead lights on and asked for my license and registration and proof of insurance. I gave it to him, he went back to his car and after about twenty minutes he came back and said, You know something like this can mess with your CDL. (comercial drivers license) I said, something like what? He had not told me why he pulled me over. Then he responded by saying, well I was going to give you a warning but now I am going to give you a ticket! And I said, A ticket for what? He still did not tell me why he pulled me over (which is required by law). After about 30 minutes, he came back with a ticket for improper use of a turn signal which carries no points and would never have any effect on a commercial drivers license. I told him I would see him in court. Then he tried to convince me not to take it to court. He is just another king shit cop that wanted someone to grovel and apologise for something they did not do in the first place! I wish I would have video recorded it! I will never kiss a cops ass just because he is on a power trip and has a piece of tin on his chest! This shit happens all the time and they do not get into any trouble for it! It is abuse of power and they should be fire and never be able to be in any position of power!
@bbigrocker1
@bbigrocker1 7 жыл бұрын
robert anthony You're right, I just had a state cop pull over my EMPTY CMV, for an inspection, Finding nothing wrong, puts me out of service for "unsecured" equipment. Here's where it gets interesting. He wrote, spare tire, dunange and straps, The truck has NEVER had a spare, It's a log grapple truck, NEVER had any dunnage and the straps are nylon. This is the nonsense we have to deal with. And despite that, you still have a host of people who will claim on a stack of bibles that cops are to be trusted.........YEAH, RIGHT
@tlee9484
@tlee9484 6 жыл бұрын
bbigrocker1 DON'T DRIVE THROUGH CAMDEN COUNTY GEORGIA. . your rights don't exist there. .....lol
@mrcookiemonster7805
@mrcookiemonster7805 6 жыл бұрын
santoandkim I've needed the cops plenty of times and they have NEVER helped. I don't know the country of origin of this clip, but you are only required by law to show your I.D. if you are being charged with a crime, and yes, traffic violations count. But, until you are charged you are NOT required by law to show your I.D. in America
@chazkel5196
@chazkel5196 5 жыл бұрын
Tell him you'll play it for the judge in your civil law suit.
@ORIGNALatomicpunk
@ORIGNALatomicpunk 5 жыл бұрын
You must produce your ID if you are operating a motor vehicle. If you're walking down the street and a cop stops you then you do not have to show ID. You can give your name and DOB unless you are suspected to have committed a crime.
@lazerusmfh
@lazerusmfh 7 жыл бұрын
He can't touch your camera!
@torgo_
@torgo_ 8 жыл бұрын
Um, if you're just walking around in a public place (and not suspected of a crime) then you don't have to identify yourself. However if you're driving a motorised vehicle (including a motorcycle) by law you must identify yourself. In fact isn't it illegal to be driving/riding without carrying a driver's license?
@CalebNelson90
@CalebNelson90 8 жыл бұрын
+Torgo from ACLU: Police may legally stop and detain you only if they reasonably suspect that you have committed, are committing or are about to commit a crime. This was not the case with my brother as he walked up to my friend and I (who had committed the crime). His bike was down the road past the tree line and out of vision. He could have been a neighbor checking to see what was going on...obviously they knew he wasn't because of the riding gear.
@torgo_
@torgo_ 8 жыл бұрын
+Caleb Nelson Oh, so he wasn't riding the motorcycle or anywhere near it? I guess that's different then.
@B33F22
@B33F22 8 жыл бұрын
+Caleb Nelson "obviously they knew he wasn't because of the riding gear" Well there you go, that's reasonable suspicion. IMO next time you should record like you did but debate it with a judge, not the officer. Just let them know you're complying under duress (a.k.a because they're threatening to arrest if you don't comply).
@CalebNelson90
@CalebNelson90 8 жыл бұрын
wearing riding gear is reasonable suspicion of a crime??
@davidca96
@davidca96 8 жыл бұрын
+Flacid Jack Reasonable suspicion of what crime? Uhh no, its not.
@BacktotheBasics101
@BacktotheBasics101 7 жыл бұрын
🇺🇸👍🏼 Thanks for standing up for your rights.
@root6683
@root6683 8 жыл бұрын
humanity at its best
@Norwegian733
@Norwegian733 8 жыл бұрын
If you delete a video, it will still be in "deleted pictures/videos" for 30 days... He would not know that. So by all means, delete -.-
@laurenceh6827
@laurenceh6827 7 жыл бұрын
Click bait. The only thing I don't believe, is that I wasted my time watching this.
@CalebNelson90
@CalebNelson90 7 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your time. :)
@johnnelson8956
@johnnelson8956 8 жыл бұрын
people wake up. know your rights. unless you are operating a motor vehicle you do not have to identify yourself unless the police have probable cause a crime has been committed. if you are a passenger you do not have to id.
@djaustin1544
@djaustin1544 5 жыл бұрын
Who the heck does the old man think he is? If you're not suspected of a crime you don't have to show them or tell them anything.
@michaelwalker1119
@michaelwalker1119 8 жыл бұрын
Must of been a slow day for them cops. No blacks in the area to shoot, so they pick on a group of motorcycle riders.
@LLCoolPass
@LLCoolPass 8 жыл бұрын
no its true its pa. pro bably a bad deer season
@youknow4657
@youknow4657 8 жыл бұрын
Race Baiting COCKSUCKERS !
@LLCoolPass
@LLCoolPass 8 жыл бұрын
+Rude Rickle squirrel season is coming
@joeblow5330
@joeblow5330 8 жыл бұрын
No shit MW. Funny but not so funny, you know!
@theblackghost9126
@theblackghost9126 8 жыл бұрын
+Rude Rickle I'm black and read (LLCOOLPASS'S)COMMENT AND COMPREHEND.. MASSA WOULD BE SO PROUD
@paulrollins604
@paulrollins604 7 жыл бұрын
"You could be wanted" "Are you video taping, are you audio taping. let me see" This clown is lost. Its not up to me to help you find out if I am wanted or not?? Its my camera and we are on a public way. I can tape anything hands off.
@SkeeterMcGraw
@SkeeterMcGraw 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Rollins That's when you say "no thanks" and let it roll.
@lonniestevens7963
@lonniestevens7963 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Rollins of course you are not going to help if you're wanted. Just show id an ride. You would not feel that way if you went home an found your family beat and hogtied. You would want them to do everything possible. That includes checking a ids in the area.
@auston781
@auston781 3 жыл бұрын
Lonnie Stevens sounds like you live in fear, I’d rather be free then, then losing our rights cause your scared of what ifs
@charleshobbs8679
@charleshobbs8679 6 жыл бұрын
just show them ID and go home...people always trying to make a stupid case out of nothing
@trevornesbit6676
@trevornesbit6676 6 жыл бұрын
How is that you won't believe what happens next when I saw that coming from a mile away
@wayoflifewayoflife2111
@wayoflifewayoflife2111 8 жыл бұрын
I can't believe he just took your camera at the end of it or at the end of your video wanting to know if there was audio on there I would have to say he was a little nervous I sure hope you guys are fighting that especially if that one guy was only walking and they never saw him on a motorized vehicle still none the less it's basically just an abuse and a power trip of the law they don't like to be told no I have to stop watching those KZfaq videos like this it's just terrible to see these cops act like this people that are supposed to be working for the American public power-hungry people with guns
@CalebNelson90
@CalebNelson90 8 жыл бұрын
agreed. It's a sad truth.
@chrismartin3618
@chrismartin3618 8 жыл бұрын
that really showed nothing. there was nothing there that showed who was wrong or right. FAIL
@matthewcoy9890
@matthewcoy9890 8 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% Chris he was obviously taping the whole thing so what happened before the arrest
@chrismartin3618
@chrismartin3618 8 жыл бұрын
i mean.. ya.. i hate cops. they over step their boundaries all the time. they abuse their power all the time. but in this case... i don't see anything wrong from the cops. but i dont see anything wrong from the 2 guys either. we watch this and don't have a clue on what happened. so this post should be taken down. it's stupid.
@WesternPI1
@WesternPI1 8 жыл бұрын
+Chris Martin The police violated the law by arresting the biker who walked up and waited for his brother to get the cotation. A citizen has no requirement to show ID simply because a col asks. They had not violated any traffkc laws, he simply walked up to the scene, and he was not under suspicion of having committed any crime, yet the officers demanded ID cuffed him and arrested the guy. You really dont see a major violation of civil rights. .
@chrismartin3618
@chrismartin3618 8 жыл бұрын
you dont see that in the video.... you understand what im saying ? if thats your story great... i dont know if thats what happened of not since its not on tape. sorry. FAIL
@WesternPI1
@WesternPI1 8 жыл бұрын
Hold on with the "FAIL". I understand it's not in the video, but if you read the video description, they describe the circumstances in more detail and they do come off pretty credible in the way the describe events. Read it yourself and let me know if you still think it's a "FAIL".
@williamcopeland6683
@williamcopeland6683 6 жыл бұрын
"Dont start nuttin..wont be nuttin"
@macrolog
@macrolog 5 жыл бұрын
if you have not committed a crime you don't need ID
@joeleeman9886
@joeleeman9886 8 жыл бұрын
"During the court case, my brother was not allowed to present the video because the judge confirmed that the Wiretapping Law made the audio recording illegal and not admissible evidence in court" OMFG this is such a blatant error, you were filming him in public right?
@CalebNelson90
@CalebNelson90 8 жыл бұрын
yes, it was on a public road. the judge and these cops weren't aware of written laws. the are the law in these parts.
@bacchys
@bacchys 8 жыл бұрын
Judges will bend over backward to excuse cops
@CalebNelson90
@CalebNelson90 8 жыл бұрын
this is a flawless plan. i like how you think.
@misurefiney1
@misurefiney1 7 жыл бұрын
Another example of a police state.
@greatest_bumble_bee_dude
@greatest_bumble_bee_dude 5 жыл бұрын
All he had to do was identify himself so the officers can discover his name along with his address The talk of a stalker
@MOOSEDOWNUNDER
@MOOSEDOWNUNDER 7 жыл бұрын
That cop is 100 years old. lol.
@rcstrucker119
@rcstrucker119 6 жыл бұрын
The police who I wholeheartedly support, in this case, never seemed to have a valid reason to ask for this mans license or name. Unless there is reasonable suspicion or that a crime has been committed, under the fourth and fifth amendment this man’s rights seem to have been violated. I would love to know what a judge had to say about this.
@RCshowmen
@RCshowmen 7 жыл бұрын
the judge and the cop were wrong. as long as you are not concealing the recording device wiretapping law doesn't apply.
@jestercohort7348
@jestercohort7348 7 жыл бұрын
+RCshowmen, ...correct, ..& they know so too
@Brovogod
@Brovogod 6 жыл бұрын
That can vary from state to state. though it would be advisable to tell them you're recording
@fredstmoritz
@fredstmoritz 8 жыл бұрын
The point is the police can not just walk up to you on the street and say I want your ID . This is still the USA right >?
@kosylipton6075
@kosylipton6075 5 жыл бұрын
They can, it's call stop and search
@Kodiak357
@Kodiak357 5 жыл бұрын
It's called profiling and sometimes racial profiling.
@joshuaespinoza2567
@joshuaespinoza2567 6 жыл бұрын
7eleven must have ran out of Donuts!
@brandosteele4433
@brandosteele4433 5 жыл бұрын
If your not being detained then you don’t have to show ID . If they say they are detaining you then you need to show ID. But if they say they are not detaining you then you don’t have to show ID.
@kekudi1886
@kekudi1886 8 жыл бұрын
im going to college so I can actually be a cop... oh I cant wait for whoever im in the car with to start trying to pull some shit like this just so that I can tell them to stfu and then let everyone go (id still give the tickets because they broke the law but still yet, this unnecessary drama has to stop
@Aard-Vark
@Aard-Vark 8 жыл бұрын
+First Order Snowtrooper Come now, you don't need to see his identification. He can go about his business.
@kekudi1886
@kekudi1886 8 жыл бұрын
Aard Vark the people who got pulled over need to show their IDs but the other two don't
@Aard-Vark
@Aard-Vark 8 жыл бұрын
+First Order Snowtrooper These aren't the bikes you're looking for; they're not for sale, if you want them.
@kekudi1886
@kekudi1886 8 жыл бұрын
fastsofaracing me too, that way I can show everyone my battle scars!
@roblegar7446
@roblegar7446 8 жыл бұрын
You're correct it needs to stop. If police would uphold the Constitution and do the right thing consistently then citizens wouldn't feel the need to push back because they're scared that if they don't their rights will be violated. It's all circular. Citizens see their rights being both violated by police and eroded by our Supreme Court. They end up fighting the police and so on. Everyone becomes frustrated. It still needs to start with the people with the badge and a sworn oath.
@rdog1121
@rdog1121 8 жыл бұрын
if you actually knew "your rights" and how to articulate them..... then NO one would've been arrested and no one would loose any footage. this is why it is so imperative that everyone learns and knows their rights under the laws of the constitution. Go educate yourselves on Common Law...... And the next time you get pulled over you'll know how to handle the situation. Technically.... you DON'T even need plates (tags) or ID to travel on the open roads of the USA. The ONLY people required to obtain/hold/carry those documents & tags are people who are traveling in commerce. meaning..... those that are in exchange of goods & service for monetary purposes, such as delivering, hauling, transporting, OR taxi'ing. If you are just freely "traveling" within a vehicle then you are at no means needed to register your vehicle or get plates for it and you don't even need a drivers license. all this is designed to suck the revenue out of every citizen and 99% of citizens are clueless to the real laws we are protected under.
@brinhitchings5994
@brinhitchings5994 8 жыл бұрын
ah, let me guess, you got that crap from sovereign vids right? whilst in control of a motorised vehicle you are required to have the correct licence for that vehicle. its called driving, not travelling, and there is no inherent right to it. driving is a privellage. you're argument was crested by idiots who like to do whatever they and act like no laws apply to them. they are brain dead idiots
@brinhitchings5994
@brinhitchings5994 8 жыл бұрын
+Brin Mackenzie *your *created bloody autocorrect
@rdog1121
@rdog1121 8 жыл бұрын
+Brin Mackenzie Not sure what "Sovereign Vids Right" actually is or in reference too. I'll have to look into that..... since I'm unclear of the sovereign vids right, I can't confirm if it's crap or not. I may form a different opinion in the matter from the sounds of the rest of your comment. But that's fine..... I swear.... all those that contributed to our constitutions law, did so knowing that there would be misinterpretation and in the end it is a long played out Prank and they continue to get the last laugh even while 6 feet under. when I can approach this situation more sober than I am now (thanks to the 4th BBQ I'm enjoying at the moment), I'll look into that Sovereign Vids Right and get back to you (if I remember.....).
@davidharness8800
@davidharness8800 8 жыл бұрын
especially if its the original constitution compared to the corporate constitution of the 1800's cause there are two plus state ones apparently so which one is important to learn
@pappy451
@pappy451 7 жыл бұрын
that's more than a little wrong , yes we have the right to "free travel " that means by walking or perhaps horseback . driving DOES NOT fall under this heading . to LEGALLY drive in America you MUST :have license to drive , tags on the vehicle , and insurance of some type ( it varies state to state ). driving is a privilege...not a right . just sayin
@jamescoleman7351
@jamescoleman7351 7 жыл бұрын
he should be arrested for being disrespectful
@pauloesterleoesterle3818
@pauloesterleoesterle3818 6 жыл бұрын
You cannot be arrested for not showing proof of id. That old ass cop needs to retire.
@TonyMontana-mv9ez
@TonyMontana-mv9ez 7 жыл бұрын
click bait. nothing happens next
@hockeydad6211
@hockeydad6211 7 жыл бұрын
Idiots. Just show them your ID. If you do not think they had the right to ask for it, or that your rights were infringed on, then you have the right to take it to court.
@sonnet9100
@sonnet9100 7 жыл бұрын
Without reasonable suspicion of committing any crime the officer cannot demand you produce an ID. Supreme Court very clear on "Terry Law" Nor can they take or demand you surrender your phone, video or audio devices. In a public place, you have the right to film officers in the execution of their duties as long as you do not interfere. Police officers executing their duties in public cannot claim reasonable expectation of privacy.
@emtfireman813
@emtfireman813 6 жыл бұрын
No crime, no id....period
@donaldv4341
@donaldv4341 7 жыл бұрын
I seen the hole video and still don't what all that's about.
@CalebNelson90
@CalebNelson90 7 жыл бұрын
read the description
@randomnelson309
@randomnelson309 7 жыл бұрын
Caleb Nelson so what actually happened after
@deadpool-db4qs
@deadpool-db4qs 7 жыл бұрын
whole
@CalebNelson90
@CalebNelson90 7 жыл бұрын
check description for detail of after video and court case
@geec5636
@geec5636 6 жыл бұрын
Donald V he refused to give his id, for no reason
@IFIXUR360
@IFIXUR360 7 жыл бұрын
its funny because your friend walked up on an investigation when he should have stayed on his bike. lesson learned here. dont interfere wont be no bullshit.
@IFIXUR360
@IFIXUR360 7 жыл бұрын
09mikesvids read the fucking description man. he walked up to an active investigation. investigations aren't done by just detectives. this was a lawful arrest in which the dumbass should have presented ID when asked. you can't just walk up and stand next to a cop while he's interrogating your friend. bullshit lesson learned.
@IFIXUR360
@IFIXUR360 7 жыл бұрын
09mikesvids for reasons other than the act itself.
@IFIXUR360
@IFIXUR360 7 жыл бұрын
***** but im guessing the lesson has flown over your head. since your reading comprehension is worse than my 8 year old.
@IFIXUR360
@IFIXUR360 7 жыл бұрын
***** its fine shes in GT went to the space museum this summer so shes doing just fine thanks for your concern tho.
@harveykeitel3066
@harveykeitel3066 7 жыл бұрын
IFIXUR360 How about I push you down just for a laugh. I'll be damned before some working class loser like you tries to tell me anything. You have no power, bitch. Go home and come back.
@2Much2lose
@2Much2lose 7 жыл бұрын
This looks more like a shake down then a traffic stop
@TheJacob6217
@TheJacob6217 6 жыл бұрын
it was like going back in time 100 years
@jimvanbeck7310
@jimvanbeck7310 8 жыл бұрын
so you troll with titles to get views thats sad
@CalebNelson90
@CalebNelson90 8 жыл бұрын
$
@constipatedcookie6110
@constipatedcookie6110 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah I see vids like this all the time it's fucking stupid
@larryelliot7734
@larryelliot7734 8 жыл бұрын
it's called clickbait.
@CalebNelson90
@CalebNelson90 8 жыл бұрын
clickbait is how the world goes round.
@larryelliot7734
@larryelliot7734 8 жыл бұрын
+Caleb Nelson 100% wrong, may be right in your world, not mine. It's just like bait and switch. Of course, I probably grew up in a completely different time than you.
@fookityeah2686
@fookityeah2686 7 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you just give him your ID instead of making a fuss about it, as the officer says you could be anyone and if he pulled you over for a reason then he has the right to ask for your ID, or was it another video just for you tube AGAIN....???
@HDRed-cs5ym
@HDRed-cs5ym 5 жыл бұрын
Fookit Yeah, you are just pure stupid, we as citizens have certain rights by the constitution upheld by the higher courts of this land, the problem with these men is that they didn't know the statutes to keep themselves out of jail; I don't have time to educate you, but you better wake up for ones like you will be the very first to fall to a tyrannical government which is what we live in today!!! Check what happened to Germany, Italy, and China for thousands of years for you're primed for it, and ones like you; I can't stand ignorance, or stupidity!!!
@angelacooper7474
@angelacooper7474 5 жыл бұрын
I know right? I don't remember seeing this on the news or in a newspaper. These self rightous children are just seeking attention and using KZfaq to get it.
@Sara-L
@Sara-L 5 жыл бұрын
Fast forward to 2017: In its decision in Fields v. City of Philadelphia, the Third Circuit Court of Appeals panel said the First Amendment’s protections extended to two people who used their smartphones to record police interactions with a third party.
@joshuaalburtis2763
@joshuaalburtis2763 6 жыл бұрын
This dude knows nothing about what he's talking about. You do have to ID your self. All he did was get his friend locked up.
@bluevaro505
@bluevaro505 8 жыл бұрын
voted you down because you lied about the title to get views.
@CalebNelson90
@CalebNelson90 8 жыл бұрын
understandable
@lysolandbananas1402
@lysolandbananas1402 8 жыл бұрын
hahahahaha
@constipatedcookie6110
@constipatedcookie6110 8 жыл бұрын
Yup same
@DennisChurch
@DennisChurch 8 жыл бұрын
Downvoted because of the title without even bothering to watch.
@craigcurtice3642
@craigcurtice3642 8 жыл бұрын
+End the police corruption amen.lawsuit
@mtvta1981
@mtvta1981 6 жыл бұрын
Is it so hard to show an ID?
@JamesBond-uz2dm
@JamesBond-uz2dm 5 жыл бұрын
Then your name goes on a police report. The report can include anything a cop can dream up. They know your address, and can harass you. Any crime committed in the area can be linked to you. Any crime crime committed by a biker can be linked to you. And you are in their database forever.
@gaydydonley2363
@gaydydonley2363 6 жыл бұрын
Takes him to jail for not showing I'D. Lawsuit.
@musekhadir4233
@musekhadir4233 5 жыл бұрын
Blacks in America should learn one thing from this video.Never resist an arrest,you will live
@jaytalon6075
@jaytalon6075 7 жыл бұрын
why didn't he show the cop his ID? I don't get it. if you get pulled over, you show your ID, you go on with your day. what is with idiots not respecting police officers? I have never ever been shown anything but respect from policemen and women, of course I show them the respect they deserve as well. I guess I should disclose that I live in Canada. Our police are probably about as friendly and professional as could be. video breakdown: police pulls over some guy, guy wants to play games for a you tube video, police do exactly what is within their authority and cuff him. Shocking!!! Respect Police Idiots!!!!
@bob2shred894
@bob2shred894 6 жыл бұрын
If you read the description it explains that he had done nothing except approached his brother to see what was happening after his brother was pulled over . Also he gave his name when asked but seeing he wasnt the pne pulled over the officer didnt have any reason to ask
@EnforcementDronEd209
@EnforcementDronEd209 6 жыл бұрын
jay thiest11 your the idiot. Moron!
@silentrage2285
@silentrage2285 6 жыл бұрын
Its not all police but there's a lot of cops that don't respect citizens,the same people that pay taxes and pay them in fact,if you don't give respect you don't get respect,simple as that.
@jeffstein3267
@jeffstein3267 6 жыл бұрын
The police made the point that you show id because you may be under warrant but even still it is standard procedure for you to have to have license when your driving so what is the problem?
@Saracinderallasushis
@Saracinderallasushis 6 жыл бұрын
jay thiest11 -just because you eat their shit, doesn't mean anyone else has to!
@nwofoe2866
@nwofoe2866 8 жыл бұрын
I live in an Arizona town where, on several occasions while minding my own business and not driving or even being in a vehicle, I have been approached by police demanding my ID. I went to the PD to file a complaint the first time, and the cop behind the bulletproof glass (real heroes) said, "why did you show the officer your ID?" Huh? OK, we have rights after all here? The next time, two cop cars raced up on me and with the prior instance in mind, I said I'm not showing my ID. The older cop threatened to arrest me on the spot. I showed my ID, once again proving that every encounter with police in America is bathed in BS. Do whatever you have to do, and if it happens someday to appear in the news as "five more cops shot down in Frumpville".....I'll just take another sip of my tea. Too freaking bad. That's what happens to psychopaths.
@keithwhisman
@keithwhisman 7 жыл бұрын
If you are operating a motor vehicle in the Unites States and the officer requests to see your drivers license you must provide your license or you face arrest and having your driving privileges revoked.
@jonathanbrady3820
@jonathanbrady3820 7 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately too many people don't know the law. Driving any vehicle or motorcycle requires a licence. Driving is not a right it's a privilege that requires a lic. And when asked to produce your lic by a cop you have to show it by law. Walking down the street on your own two feet you don't need to provide anything but put your ass in a driver seat and it's a different ball game.
@jimboslice4610
@jimboslice4610 8 жыл бұрын
i hope you guys take this back to court maranda rights were never read and you are allowed to audio tape someone as long as it wasnt hided in your pocket or something. and it wasnt you had it in plain sight
@garyperkins6868
@garyperkins6868 6 жыл бұрын
police can hold you for 24 hours legally until they find out who you are.
@chicanpablo
@chicanpablo 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know about other states but I am from West Virginia and you have to be able to prove who you are. A police officer can ask you for proof of ID for no reason and if you don't have ID or won't give them the ID then they can legally arrest you until they or you can prove who you are.
@chrisbatchelor3717
@chrisbatchelor3717 6 жыл бұрын
I would have told the cop if I give my ID it will generate a formal complaint against the cop.
@WilliamR-nt5ek
@WilliamR-nt5ek 6 жыл бұрын
You can beat the charge but you can't beat the ride.
@davidgouin8420
@davidgouin8420 7 жыл бұрын
And they wonder why we don't trust the Police!!!!
@stacywoods1281
@stacywoods1281 7 жыл бұрын
As George Orwell once said, " When I see workers in conflict with their natural enemies, the police, I don't have to think twice to know who's side i'm on!"
@lmedwards4256
@lmedwards4256 6 жыл бұрын
I am taken back at the ignorance of the older cop and the compliance of the younger one?
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