CRAZY NEW Motor SHOCKS Entire Industry!

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Жыл бұрын

The next generation synchronous superconducting motors have arrived. With a proclaimed 99.9% efficiency, will it replace conventional designs?
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@ChrisWilson999
@ChrisWilson999 10 ай бұрын
New claim of room temperature super conductor has been made. LK-99
@Tech_Planet
@Tech_Planet 10 ай бұрын
Yes, let's follow this closely! Seems to display Meisner effect but I'm skeptical of it (like previous debunked claims). If it's true then it's revolutionary.
@ChrisWilson999
@ChrisWilson999 10 ай бұрын
@@Tech_Planet Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. That being said, I want a go cart with an super conducting electric motor.
@gregandark8571
@gregandark8571 10 ай бұрын
@@ChrisWilson999 Today is Aug 8 2023 and LK-99 was debunked.
@gordonwalter4293
@gordonwalter4293 Жыл бұрын
I worked on superconductors in the 60's. 8 degrees absolute was the best we had. ~80 degrees absolute today impresses me. Don't expect room temperature this century.
@capitalistdingo
@capitalistdingo Жыл бұрын
Some of the new ones seem to trade cold temperatures for unbelievably, crushingly high pressures. Still not practical for most applications but interesting.
@dreugh424
@dreugh424 Жыл бұрын
Currently we must choose. Crazy pressurized at room temp, or supercooled at atmospheric pressure.
@BienestarMutuo
@BienestarMutuo Жыл бұрын
There is super conductors at room temperature from like 50 years ago, but they are reserved for military uses. the principal idea to understand is that materials dynamic behavior can be very different that the material static.
@sssbob
@sssbob Жыл бұрын
Bucky tubes.
@thesearchforterrestrialint7795
@thesearchforterrestrialint7795 Жыл бұрын
advanced robotics machine learning applied to materials science research, id be surprised if they didnt find a room temperature superconductor before Jesus returns in about 15 years.
@mathew00
@mathew00 Жыл бұрын
My husband started watching this but then he got SHOCKED and I had to call the wambulance. Be careful out there!
@kaiwheeler64
@kaiwheeler64 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the turbo pump designs in rocket engines can benefit from superconducting electric motors when they can be cooled by the cryogenic fuel?
@normangiven6436
@normangiven6436 Жыл бұрын
Turbo pumps are powered by combustion since they have to overcome chamber pressure to get fuel into the engine.
@kaiwheeler64
@kaiwheeler64 Жыл бұрын
@@normangiven6436 Check out the Electron.....
@Elltronotube
@Elltronotube Жыл бұрын
Will it fit in my 96 Honda Civic?
@JG-dd8jy
@JG-dd8jy Жыл бұрын
At 1:28 Isn't that a CT scanner? You can see the detector array at the bottom (5 fans) and the x-ray tube at the top left
@josephpacchetti5997
@josephpacchetti5997 Жыл бұрын
Interesting Video, THX subbed 👍
@nicklaich
@nicklaich Жыл бұрын
conventional motors also quite effective (especially on such power) but of course way heavier. but cooling hardware also have weight so not everything are clear.
@horseshoedaddy
@horseshoedaddy Жыл бұрын
Big questions... Is it reliable under arduous conditions? Is it's cost within the reach the average consumer? Is it sustainable?
@toofnbad
@toofnbad Жыл бұрын
Must have massive torque!
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 Жыл бұрын
Would be good for a generator rather than a motor. The mechanical to electrical conversion would be over 95%
@reinerfranke5436
@reinerfranke5436 Жыл бұрын
I did not know about it. But very high conductivity could mean that the skin-depth with a varing external magnetic field is much smaller. This would increase the inner current density inside the super-conductor and decrease the total rotating current capability. I did not read much about skin-effect in super-condutors, it seams they are for static fields.
@chrisbrooks89
@chrisbrooks89 Жыл бұрын
I theorize that with magnetic bearings and magnetic gears we could achieve over 100% efficiency.
@yakut9876
@yakut9876 28 күн бұрын
I agree with only in the use of permanent magnets ( and not with consumer, inefficient electromagnet ). This is despite the fact that conventional gears and conventional bearings are very efficient, effective, reliable and theirs losses are very few.
@JoeyBlogs007
@JoeyBlogs007 Жыл бұрын
The torque potential could destroy the smaller lighter motor when full power potential is applied. ( i.e. due to its lower mass relative to input power ) it would have to be optimised to function within the operational limits of the motor, due to material strength limitations. I guess they've done all that testing, so they know it can work.
@Buongona
@Buongona Жыл бұрын
nice to see other uses than levitating a magnet. Also 99%efficiencies have been achieved by commercial electric motors long time ago, it's only unheard of by people who don't follow tech.
@ralph5476
@ralph5476 Жыл бұрын
At anywhere near ~20T, steel cores would be pointless, as they saturate ~1.5T. Additionally, steel would have enormous core losses at ~20T. What do they use? Air cores now?
@gfbprojects1071
@gfbprojects1071 Жыл бұрын
Sounds encouraging if they can raise the superconducting temp.
@nkronert
@nkronert Жыл бұрын
Even if this motor is 99% efficient, at 2 MW power output one still needs to remove 20 kW of heat to keep it at the same temperature. That sounds difficult to achieve. But hey, engineers...
@andrewharpin6749
@andrewharpin6749 Жыл бұрын
20kw is nothing especially for 2MW, an ICE engine is ~25% efficient, so a 100hp (74.57kw) needs to remove 223kw of heat at full power.
@nkronert
@nkronert Жыл бұрын
@@andrewharpin6749 True, but this is at cryogenic temperatures.
@circusserpent9466
@circusserpent9466 Жыл бұрын
FYI, some lower tesla MRI's use permanent magnets.
@yakut9876
@yakut9876 28 күн бұрын
Permanent magnets are currently advanced and very useful. I believe that in the future we will rely on permanent magnets instead of energy-consuming electromagnets that produce a lot of heat and electromagnetic pollution.
@yunodiewtf
@yunodiewtf 7 ай бұрын
Imagine the intensity of a staredown between an ICE driver waiting for his motor to warm up and an superconducting EV driver waiting for his motor to chill
@ReachOutToWilliam
@ReachOutToWilliam Жыл бұрын
I am not shocked. What industry was shocked by this well-known, decades old development?
@davestorm6718
@davestorm6718 Жыл бұрын
I don't see where boosting a motor's efficiency another 10% will ever be cost/power effective when cryo equipment must be used to do the cooling. Any size improvements are immediately lost as well.
@Tech_Planet
@Tech_Planet Жыл бұрын
True, it would only be good in power generation whre MW of power is being equated.
@thomasknight-wagener6630
@thomasknight-wagener6630 Жыл бұрын
so esxciting... cheers!
@lucassterquino
@lucassterquino 6 ай бұрын
I have worked with a ceramic-type superconductor applied in a dispositive to limit an induction motor starting current. It is incredibly challenging working with these materials. Finding a superconductor material at room temperature and/or developing a manufacturing process for mass production with high-quality levels will be a turning point in society. It will powerfully increase efficiency in energy production, transportation, and computation.
@NineInchTyrone
@NineInchTyrone 2 ай бұрын
Dream on
@TrevorSachko
@TrevorSachko Жыл бұрын
Oddly enough, the motor is not crazy and it didn't shock the entire industry.
@walterabernathy5663
@walterabernathy5663 10 ай бұрын
One possible use of this. Use high voltage DC for transmission and using the dc to turn this motor generate AC for cities.
@draganignjatovic4812
@draganignjatovic4812 8 ай бұрын
What magnetic material can conduit 20T flux?
@themogget8808
@themogget8808 3 ай бұрын
Room temperatures are not needed for this to be useful. Motors usually already have active cooling systems, so we just need a colder one. The losses and hassle from this cooling will only be offset by the gains in power, materials, and efficiency in very powerful systems. So this would be very unlikely for daily passenger cars. High temperatures in this case means liquid nitrogen. Liquid nitrogen isn't cheap or easy to work with, but neither is jet fuel or steam. Its the classic trade-off : do I just put in a bigger engine, or do I add a turbo and a bottle of NOS? I can imagine racers topping off their nitrogen tank at the welding store just like they do now.
@physicsbystanprisajny6284
@physicsbystanprisajny6284 Жыл бұрын
This happens when a perpetual motion machine spins so fast or something
@nandodando9695
@nandodando9695 Жыл бұрын
What usage would a motor of these specs best suit?
@everettputerbaugh3996
@everettputerbaugh3996 Жыл бұрын
There was one under development for the Zumwalt class Destroyers that was not ready when the design was finalized.
@Tech_Planet
@Tech_Planet Жыл бұрын
Thats right, ship/aircraft propulsion maybe power generation. Some designs branch off to different motor types with HTS
@brazenbunnies
@brazenbunnies 9 ай бұрын
Shockingly shocking shocker
@johngalt7382
@johngalt7382 Жыл бұрын
So a 400, or 800lb motor, with 10, or 20 tons of batteries, copper, and cooling equipment, to run it. Genius.... I'm guessing large scale gas turbines, or diesel gennys at the airports to charge the mega ampere batteries?
@supremeflagship8965
@supremeflagship8965 9 ай бұрын
How much more powerful is superconducting motor compared to the same size non-superconducting motor?
@marco8696
@marco8696 6 ай бұрын
10x density power!
@michaelnoble2432
@michaelnoble2432 2 ай бұрын
99% efficiency isn't "unheard of" (04:10) - it can be achieved with conventional copper and clever motor designs.
@helicopterdriver
@helicopterdriver Жыл бұрын
Considering that there is a finite amount of helium I don't see how this could be sustained if it is required. Liquid nitrogen is not cheap either. 2666 hp would be pretty sweet though.
@nelsondoan8271
@nelsondoan8271 Жыл бұрын
Rochester, Reddmatter, 20.9 degrees Celsius. Near room temperature superconductors… but I doubt Toshiba is using this, there’s a lot of development required.
@arnabsaha5185
@arnabsaha5185 Жыл бұрын
Make a video on quantum generator patent...
@themeek351
@themeek351 Жыл бұрын
Does it heat up when under heavy load? Seems cumbersome.
@ChrisWilson999
@ChrisWilson999 10 ай бұрын
No. The 99% efficiency claim means 1% heat of 2MW. That's 20000 watts of heat which would be spread through it's mass. Negligible in other words. To compare that to a 2MW diesel generator, which would make more than 1MW of heat.
@THX-vb8yz
@THX-vb8yz Жыл бұрын
Cool.....
@nickoutram6939
@nickoutram6939 10 ай бұрын
If its a motor its also a generator. I think Rolls Royce was working on something like this driven by a turbine to produce around 2-3MW of electric power for longer duration eVTOL aircraft.
@silverc4s146
@silverc4s146 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Early. Days for this
@ericlewis3444
@ericlewis3444 Жыл бұрын
"helium, which is a lot more plentiful... well, at least on Earth" wtf? what planets have you been to?
@rchobbotic9658
@rchobbotic9658 Жыл бұрын
Power plant can use this concept to generate electricity 10 times more in same space
@igoromelchenko3482
@igoromelchenko3482 Жыл бұрын
Peculiar...
@richardzeitz54
@richardzeitz54 Жыл бұрын
"an over hyped," not "a over hyped."
@jeremytipton6076
@jeremytipton6076 Жыл бұрын
Have I been misinformed? I thought graphene can superconduct at room temperature.
@incognitotorpedo42
@incognitotorpedo42 Жыл бұрын
Probably not going to be in a car unless high temperature superconductors manage to be found.
@billboyd4051
@billboyd4051 Жыл бұрын
The high frequency brushless motor is very efficient in Tesla's, batteries are not far off from 500+mile range.
@anonymous12345678935
@anonymous12345678935 Жыл бұрын
Why would a car need a 2600 HP motor? Maybe I should watch the video...
@davidconner-shover51
@davidconner-shover51 Жыл бұрын
@@anonymous12345678935 because its cooling system weighs so much more than the motor
@mnomadvfx
@mnomadvfx 5 ай бұрын
Megawatt scale electric motors using superconducting coils are not a new thing. The US navy has been chasing this for decades to the purpose of electrifying its destroyer fleet and increasing its efficiency.
@inspectorsteve2287
@inspectorsteve2287 Жыл бұрын
How do electric motors gain torque? More current or more coils or something else?
@billboyd4051
@billboyd4051 Жыл бұрын
Reduction gears, large diameter, amps, more turns of wire for lower RPM or fewer heavier turns for higher RPM, and overall power. Bigger is better but heavier.
@inspectorsteve2287
@inspectorsteve2287 Жыл бұрын
@@billboyd4051 cool thanks I was always curious about that.
@billboyd4051
@billboyd4051 Жыл бұрын
@@inspectorsteve2287 I fly RC planes where torque lets you spin a larger prop to go vertical, but at a slower speed.
@inspectorsteve2287
@inspectorsteve2287 Жыл бұрын
@@billboyd4051 that's cool. My uncle used to build rc planes out of wood. Like in a kit. He was always in his woodshop sanding and glueing stuff together. We would go out and fly them. Well he would I wasn't allowed to fly it. Lol. Probably was a good idea.
@christopherblare6414
@christopherblare6414 Жыл бұрын
I think it has insane military use. On a missele per chance? Just load it up with liquid helium in a tank. Give it autogenous pressure and boom! Literally. It just has to keep the thing cool long enough. Maybe I'm just not being creative enough but until the technology matures significantly I don't see a lot of civilian uses.
@dreugh424
@dreugh424 Жыл бұрын
Sure, but we have plenty of things that carry our stuff that goes boom. How do we justify the use of helium for this application? For something that will go boom anyways?
@christopherblare6414
@christopherblare6414 Жыл бұрын
@@dreugh424 I think that's it, war is like the only thing where you could justify it. In any other situation it wouldn't be economic. But it still makes sense to blow up a 10 million dollar missile if it takes a 100 million dollar jet or whatever. That's setting aside the non-renewability of helium, which I feel makes the "so wasteful it only makes sense in war" argument stronger.
@muzycznarozmowa
@muzycznarozmowa Жыл бұрын
I thought it was a bicycle motor ;-)
@ag135i
@ag135i Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, induction motors are better than BLDC motors because induction motors requires less fancy sensors and chips they to change poles with AC current plus there's no risk of demagnetising the permanent magnets, copper windings on steel core are best.
@billboyd4051
@billboyd4051 Жыл бұрын
Induction motors sync to the AC frequency, BLDC motors are actually AC variable high frequency 8000 or higher CPS, variable speed, and sense position without sensors now through RMF pulse and can vary timing through the processor, to provide torque at low RPM or high. Neo magnets provide extra power, and last many years if kept cooled below 130 f or so.
@ag135i
@ag135i Жыл бұрын
@@billboyd4051 thanks for the information bro.
@s1ider
@s1ider 11 ай бұрын
So, I had an idea about how cool it would be to have the opposite of a microwave beam. Heh, I said "Cool' idea", because that's what it would do. to COOL , rather to radiate. Almost timing the radiation to radiate against the materials natural vibration. If you are reading this and can achieve this idea, DO IT. Design it and get it done.
@chasx7062
@chasx7062 4 ай бұрын
Toshiba is going broke, and getting sold...They still have some assets or is it PR?
@user-xz3xf6bc8o
@user-xz3xf6bc8o Жыл бұрын
Few hundred kilos!? That's basically a truck engine but 5-6 times more powerful!
@anosvoldigord4075
@anosvoldigord4075 Жыл бұрын
Probably pulse tube cooled
@The0ldg0at
@The0ldg0at Жыл бұрын
The wires are super conducting so they don't lose part of the electric energy in heat. But how do we keep the environment heat reaching the wires? Simple we cool it with super cold helium. But how do we take out the heat from the helium to trow it back to the environment? Easy we use very energy inneficient cooling systems like a refrigerator. So what happens to the total energy we use to make the whole system work? It's not in the paper. Everytime I hear about new breaking ground technology that don't mention the overall energy efficiency of the whole system, I know it's a marketing scheme looking for 'free money' to finance the R$D of some project. This has been going on for decades with the nuclear fusion (potential) industry.
@alen7492
@alen7492 Жыл бұрын
More positive thinking would be: How many people got inspired by those videos.
@Tech_Planet
@Tech_Planet Жыл бұрын
This a good point and tbh I think that we need to find a room temp superconducting material without immense pressure being applied to it.
@hogofwar0
@hogofwar0 Жыл бұрын
prob marketing, see some real footage of it working 1st
@Semmster
@Semmster Жыл бұрын
I've developed a distinct🤬 dislike for these things that 'SHOCKS Entire Industry'. I nearly blocked the channel for that. If I didn't also like actual information that I can make sense of...
@kirangouds
@kirangouds 2 ай бұрын
So true
@esahg5421
@esahg5421 Жыл бұрын
liquid helium cooled ac motor, that compresses and pumps liquid helium.
@bozidarskobalj3166
@bozidarskobalj3166 Жыл бұрын
cooling gas gens is good model reminds on airplane engine and nuclear salt reactor type cooling weight lose is ok if price in production large is resumble what if air turbine air cooler aditionaly added on gens like tesla has this part such as eficent airstream airgliding acc to swuush electric sound and then is even faster and air cooled and nitrogen too
@jtjames79
@jtjames79 Жыл бұрын
I follow a guy on KZfaq making a multiple stage phase-change cooler, trying to get liquid nitrogen. Always wondered if you could get a turbo boost by temporarily making the motor superconductive. Just hit it with a blast of liquid nitrogen. Assuming that doesn't just make things explode. That would be funny too. No discovery without experimentation.
@ACE-gk5gi
@ACE-gk5gi Жыл бұрын
0 I'm sure it works,, but that's in a lab....no money was spared for a one off ,,very clean cut electric motor..that makes your jaw drop..NOW..the problem is ..to the masses = very expensive..to scale down all that wonderful cooling system from a room/lab into a tight compact car/train/plane/boat = very expensive..safety in those mediums- test after test years after years = expensive and a little to late..I'm sure the real science is [ NEED IS NOW - and that the masses can afford such a great motor ..and the safety box is ticked ] ya goofy m8te from Australia
@truethought369
@truethought369 Жыл бұрын
I think this motor could be very useful as a thrust drive, for changing direction of space craft, or even powering it.
@franciscorompana2985
@franciscorompana2985 Жыл бұрын
Elon Musk was here. He is now calling TOSHIBA 🇯🇵
@THEScottCampbell
@THEScottCampbell Жыл бұрын
"A over-hyped..."? AN over-hyped??? Skipped Fifth Grade?
@brianmckeever5280
@brianmckeever5280 Жыл бұрын
I think I am unqualified to speak on this topic ;-)
@Max_Jacoby
@Max_Jacoby Жыл бұрын
First time in Internet, huh? 😁
@brianmckeever5280
@brianmckeever5280 Жыл бұрын
@@Max_Jacoby 🤣
@Zodliness
@Zodliness Жыл бұрын
At 01:58 - How does one cool something to an extreme temperature? I think he meant to say 'extremely low' temperature. I'm no physicist, so who am I to argue.
@StormGod29
@StormGod29 Жыл бұрын
There is nothing wrong with saying "they have to be cooled to a very extreme temperature". A few degrees above absolute zero is an extreme temperature. Likewise, fusion plasma of 150,000,000K is also a very extreme temperature. 4K is more extreme than 150,000,000 since it is within 4 degrees of the end of the temperature scale but 150,000,000 is still infinity degrees from the other end of the temperature scale.
@Sekir80
@Sekir80 Жыл бұрын
Not impressed. Even a puny Tesla motor has higher specific power than this. 1/4th of the power but in 35-40 kg? It seems the cooling of this motor requires a lot of hardware.
@lofasz_joska
@lofasz_joska Жыл бұрын
now, this title made me unsubscribe.....
@krprock4802
@krprock4802 Жыл бұрын
A waste of time, axial electric motors are superior to radial ones, a priori
@Tech_Planet
@Tech_Planet Жыл бұрын
There are a couple of axial flux HTS designs out there but a lot of challenges.
@krprock4802
@krprock4802 Жыл бұрын
@@Tech_Planet They have no problems, all childhood diseases have been eliminated. Axial motors are already certified for aviation, which indicates their high quality. And the latest scientific achievements, I think you don’t know about it yet, allow you to reduce heat loss by up to 70%. What is unattainable for radial technology.
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