How long does it typically last?

@@karlyaethyrmorrison8880 hey! I realize everyone’s different, but I’ve been continuing to get it done every 6 months or so.

@@RundownwithRachel so the results you think last about 6 months? after the 6 months are done does the area stilll look a little better then before? Since there's stem cells from the blood, I've heard over time it's suppose to continue to improve and restore natural volume by rejuvinating fat cells do you think this was the case for you?

@@user-mz1zl1bc4c that is such a good question E! I wish I could say I remember how long it lasted or even took inventory of it. What I do not is that seeing the true results took some time. In general, I think it’s a long term play but hard to say how long the real results we are after last.

lasts about a month to 6 weeks then you have to redo it they suggest doing it 3-4 times in a row then it's supposed to last 6 months to a year but I have not found that to be true at least not for tear troughs. 3 months after i see minimal improvement and still need filler to plump it up

Very kind of you, thank you!

Does prp micro needling works??

How long does plasma last when they send you home with a some of you plasma to use t

does anyone worry about safety in the spinner? Like someone else's blood was in their befofe? EEK that scares me

Thank you, Mindy! That is FASCINATING! I had NO IDEA. The downside I’ve found with PRF is that it doesn’t last so long. But that’s not to say there aren’t long term benefits, just not clear on what they are!

I'm using red light therapy now. It created eye bags. Mine is a disaster. It shifted.

@@itziebitzred light therapy created eye bags!? Have i undestand you right ? It shold be good for skin and under eye ?

@@alexander_no350 hi there I'm an esthetician for 20 years I've been working with red light for over 15 years. Red light therapy does not create bags under the eyes. The problem is with filler. It's hyaluronic acid which attracts moisture to itself and holds it for a long while. Each molecule of hyaluronic acid can hold up to 1,000 times its own weight in water! So when you put that in your skin it will plump it. under the eye area it's going to draw moisture to itself and give you bags. More more doctors are moving away from using hyaluronic acid as a filler under the eyes.

@@user-gw3hq5ff2e ok , Thats sounds good . Never heard before of negative aspects of red light just positive. :-) so good to hear. Thank you .. I have decited to stay away from under eye filler ..

@@alexander_no350 A very wise idea:-) I can't tell you the disasters that have come through my doors. 50% of all filler stays in the body the body does not metabolize it by the way. I used to work with a plastic surgeon who specialized in eyes :-) but all the filler that's not 100% body friendly :-) doing voice to text have a beautiful evening

Thank you! I’m very pleased, too!

How exciting! Be sure to take before photos! So easy to forget!!!!

Totally loving Morpheus 8 just had #3 Thursday I found it almost painless unless they hit the edge where there is no numbing cream I guess I had real good cream

@@dawndigsin That’s awesome!!! I hear that the longer you let the cream sit, the better! For my recent Morpheus8 appointments, one of the clinicians told me that clients that do Morpheus8 don’t need as much filler and Botox since it does so much for their skin. That was another validation for its powers!

Crazy right? Thanks Geoff!

How did it turn out?

Keep us posted and be sure to take progress photos 👏👏👏

How was your session? Notice any results?

How was it

Are you happy with results?

Thank you, girl!!! It really is outrageously expensive! What’s very interesting is how it is a FRACTION OF THE COST in other countries. I am hoping that as it increases in popularity and competition that it will be more affordable!

@@RundownwithRachel it’s crazy how behind our country is on things with beauty…so many countries like Korea seem to have way more options, too.🥴

@@JuliaShalomJordan ugh I know. Something tells me NO ONE is in a hurry to bring down prices 😒

Fly to SK and get a trip and work done. Its what i do. ​@JuliaShalomJordan

Thank you, Lili! I sure will!

I am so excited for you, Kay! I am convinced that especially with the long term in mind - this is the way to go! Not only is it ideal for a natural look, but ideal for skin quality overall!

So it's been over a week since the injection and my under eyes look pretty much how they started out. How long should I expect it to take to see the results?

@Kay M hey!!! Did you see results yet? I think it takes a few months for the collagen to begin to form

@@katherinemendez3826 hey I will keep you updated. I'm still waiting to see. I don't think anything dramatic yet at all after 2 months and two treatments but time is definitely a factor and I'm trying to patiently wait

@@kaym5859 hii... Any updates?

Hey! The procedure is done very quickly but the results take several weeks to show.

You should be so proud of yourself. If you can quit smoking, you can do anything! If you’re looking for a great practitioner, Real Self is a great resource!!!!

Hi Margaret! Thank you for your question. I have heard PRF can be used in a variety of areas - I imagine smile lines, too. Not sure how much PRF helps with sagging. Although it may help, it may be worth posting a question on the app RealSelf. Plenty of plastic surgeons and providers respond with their professional perspective. It’s also a great way to learn about up and coming options that may be a better fit!

Laila. You are a savior. Thank you. I did not know that 😬

Also stop taking vitamin E for the same reason before PRF treatment. My provider also says to not take antioxidants before and after a treatment such as microneedling because you don't want to inhibit the natural inflammation response in your skin (hormesis), which is what your skin actually needs in order to build fibrin and collagen.

But honestly what’s the point if it doesn’t last?

theres less risk with prf

So, one Dr. got 7ml & the other one used 1.5ml if the buffy part? Sounds like the last Dr. did PRP instead of PRF. Can I ask u, are u happy with your results?

That is a VERY good question. Let me see what I can find out! When I have had a few treatments I go in 6-8 weeks.

If I can provide you any reassurance there have been many times I’ve thought - did I make a mistake? I’m pretty sure swelling is quite normal. Worst case, it can be dissolved. It may make you feel better to reach out to your provider as I’m sure they want you to be happy and may be able to let you know what to expect. ❤️❤️❤️

Filler is much more robust and long lasting whereas PRF is a long term play. I’ve avoided filler just because of how it can shift and cause swelling. There are also now more and more stories of people having bad effects when dissolving filler. In other words, PRF is much more subtle than filler so worth knowing that doing into it!

I know some people love their filler, at this point, I am seeing what I can do to avoid it all together. Things like Sculptra seem to be a good option for me! Need to make a video on that soon!

@@RundownwithRachel it's either facelift or filler for some Too many cant afford expensive treatments on a constant basis to keep volume as we age. Truly filler is one of the only options before surgery

@@happydays5989 Completely know what you mean. There are only so many options.

@@RundownwithRachel exactly, it's hard these days, thankfully the youth are stepping up

Hey! Its a good week for recovery - you want to avoid salty foods and alcohol to speed up the recovery, too. Personally, I did not feel feverish after or uncomfortable.

I find it is very worth it, but it is not permanent. Cannot say how long but it's good to know that going into it that you will likely require maintenance. The big reason why I prefer PRF is because long term it helps maintain the skin whereas filler comes with all sorts of risks and issues. If you do decide to get PRF - hydrate, hydrate, hydrate the days leading up as that will help your body generate more fibrin. Also avoid things like fish, turmeric, and alcohol before. Of course, speak with your practitioner to get tips, too.

Well how is the result after 6 months?

My guess is that some people instinctively equate getting fit with losing weight, and losing weight could definitely make your face look thinner. However, unless you are in a calorie deficit, working out doesn't necessarily mean you have to lose weight, and being fit also doesn't have to mean you need to look really lean. As your goal is obviously to gain mass, you need to eat enough for your muscles to grow, so you definitely shouldn't be in a calorie deficit, and therefore, you probably don't need to worry about your face starting to look thin either. 🙂

I learned this naturally. I was always really thin. But in my forties, I suddenly developed PCOS, and it made me gain weight. The benefit - my face looks beautiful and 20 years younger, and much prettier than how I looked in my twenties. It makes me not want to lose weight that badly anymore. I would rather be chubby and busty, and with a pretty youthful cherub face - compared to thin and flat chested with an older face.

Also in answer to your specific exercise question: high impact cardio exercise is known to produce a certain physiological blood pressure situation in your face, that lead to higher fat loss and advanced aging. It is called "runner's face." I strictly do not believe in high impact cardio exercise. Also, another type of exercise that makes your face look bad is heavy lifting muscle exercises. It makes your body grow your veins larger, so that you'll have a giant he-man blood vessel running down your forehead. I know an obsessive weight lifting woman who has this, and it makes me flinch to look at it, because it is so unsightly. In summary, heavy exercise of any kind is unhealthy and ages you. Gentle moderate exercise is better for youthfulness and attractiveness.

I’m still a big fan! I am overdue for another treatment and you have me motivated to get that scheduled and create a video update! Be sure to take before and after photos should you do it!

thanks!

Yes, vascular oclusion/embolism…☹️

@@jennyquezada9644 I went to a doctor who does this and there are no risks of blindness. It's just your blood going back into your skin. Fillers can cause blindness because of the material seeping into the wrong places. Definitely go to a doctor and not some random cosmetic place where the person has no clue about the under eye dynamics.

Hey Marie! Yes! I actually got it done this week! I find it helps me maintain the natural, youthful look I’m going for.

Gosh I know what you mean! 🤑 I tell myself, some people invest in designer bags, I invest in my face 🙃Mine cost $500/session - and that may have been on a special they were running. I can also appreciate the look of full lips! Been wanting to get mine done but have also been looking into lip lifts! Gives a fuller pout and a more youthful look at the same time. Biggest downside is it’s a surgical procedure.

@@RundownwithRachel Dr Youn recently posted a video about being against lip lifts because it leaves a scar and may worsen over time. New subscriber, enjoying all your content. Unfortunately they don’t do PRF in the UK, just PRP. I’m not a candidate yet for PRP until my iron deficiency is back to normal. Currently researching between Morpheus 8 or PRP, or if both is best. You inspired me to join Tracy Anderson. Thanks!

@@sandrar6670 thanks so much, Sandra!!! Really appreciate you sharing that about lip lifts! It’s probably wise to hold off on some of these trends for a while. Was watching Lori Hills video about it and realized - maybe not the best procedure to invest in right now. Also, how alarming is it that “they” are just now realizing that fillers shift around. I am SO EXCITED to hear you are checking out TAM. I am over the moon that there is a program that legit WORKS and is good for your body. It has helped me on soooo many levels! If ever you have any questions, holler at me on IG 😘

@@RundownwithRachel The videos from plastic surgeons on KZfaq that say why I no longer put filler in tear troughs is frightening. I stopped doing them over three years ago. Just did my first TAM class tonight. I had seen Erin’s video a year ago but your videos mentioned a lot of things I had not thought about. Excited to see results but will be patient with the process.

@@sandrar6670 one thing I just learned about is her book from 10 years ago called “The 30 Day Method” and I have learned so much from there. Another thing I’ve caught on to recently is to feel the stretch and feel the burn every chance i get. When you do a leg kick, engage your glute - that has made such a difference for me especially in my 🍑

Hey! I want to say my results lasted for several weeks. I dont know that i will get this ongoing, but if I felt pulled to do undereye filler - i would def do PRF again. Lately i have been pondering, what are the long term benefits of having those growth factors from the PRF that we cannot appreciate today? And is there a way for us to even know if the PRF gets credit? The reason I wonder this is because many surgeons speak to the long term benefits of fat transfers bc of the growth factors they offer - but does PRF provide long term benefits, too? We need some white papers on this 😂

@@RundownwithRachel Thank you so much for your reply! Yeah, I bought a package of three and I would definitely do it again. It has made a tremendous difference but I wasn't sure if it lasted longer than a couple of weeks in the beginning. She told me I would look better in 9 months than I do on that very first day she filled it :-) (it plumped up my under eyes so good that you couldn't even see the black!) I agree with what you said above. I got what is called PRF Gel. So this is the same process, but the Fibrin is cooled and then heated again or something like that, and it creates the fibrin to become a gel. So I guess this has longer benefits than just PRF. I'm concerned though, b/c even though my girl is GREAT at what she does, she said this Gel is new and you won't find a lot (i found absolutely NOTHING) on it online b/c she is working with the "company" and it's new and upcoming. So IDK. I wouldn't do fillers per se' b/c I've heard how some people have to get that stuff taken out b/c it becomes lumpy or w/e. IDK on that either as I'm new to this but totally need to have this stupid issue (along w/my hooded lids) resolved! 😕

Have you seen improvement since you posted your question four months ago? What you noted is what I'm afraid of. I'm really tired of dropping some much money on these non-surgical options with little to no results. I've done 3 morpheus8 microneedling treatments (about a year ago now) and sculptra (5 months ago) and I don't see really much improvement on my facial problem areas. I have awful under eye hallowing, volume loss in the mid-face and jowls. I've been considering prp. So, I'm watching videos and reading people's reviews... I'm not sure it's worth trying. I'm thinking maybe I should just save my money for a surgical option down the road when it gets truly awful. Although, I have to live with it until then. Ugh :(

@@deliachavez2017 Hey there! Yes I absolutely have seen results! It's so funny because I was literally looking at myself in the mirror today going " They don't stand out to where I'm noticing them every single time I look in the mirror this is amazing!" I don't even really need to wear under eye makeup if I didn't want to . Now don't get me wrong, I can still see some bluish when I look in my one particular bathroom mirror but I think I'm just being a very harsh critic. But one thing I definitely can say I have noticed is that when I look at myself in the mirror, they don't stand out to where I think good grief I've got to do something about this! I had three treatments because I bought a package and I think it was maybe $2300 for the 3? Not 100% sure exactly how much it was but although it was expensive I'm really glad I did it because it was definitely a sore spot for me. The girl that did it told me that I will see results overtime. She was absolutely right! I don't know what to say as far as the other procedures you've had because I know I've been contemplating doing morpheus 8 as well but just haven't gone that route yet. Also let me say that I got PRF gel. That is different from just plain PRF as the gel is what allows it to continue to work overtime. Regular PRF I think was 1800 and the PRF gel was 2300. My girl is pretty sought out, so she charges a bit more but I trust her! Definitely find someone you can trust and knows what they are doing. She explained the difference between PRP and PRF gel. That's why I decided to go with the gel and I'm glad I did! She said we could choose to do PRF later down the road if the jail works well. This way it would just be maintenance and I wouldn't have to pay so much. So next time I go we might decide just to do PRF only. Honestly, because I drink a lot of water she was able to get about 4-5 vials of PRP's out of my blood! So she did inject some in between the nasal labial folds and they look better but not 100%. But again those don't even stand out to me as much as they used to. She also told me that I should make sure to be taking a lot of collagen to keep up the collagen production from here on out. This way my body as it gets older, won't keep losing collagen, well I will, but at least I'm replacing some of it to what I can. Hope all of that makes sense! I'll be happy to elaborate more if you need me to!

@@firstklasshealthandwellnes1077 I’m also very interested in the prf gel since it acts like a filler were you not worried to place it under they eyes ? I would love to do that for midcheek under eye who did you go to if I May ask ?

Hey girl!!! I understand your concern and it is always so good to be cautious. This is still one of my favorite procedures and I’m due for another treatment. Be sure to take progress photos because you will be amazed with the before and after. Also, given it’s your own platelets - it really can’t get much more natural than this!

@@RundownwithRachel thanks so much for the reply!

Starts at $275 to $399 per treatments in both eyes, and if you do the microneeding is another $175 more

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Aww I feel your struggle! It’s crazy how some times are worse than others. Sometimes I swell other times I don’t. If you have red light therapy that really helps accelerate the healing.

I have a red light but my injector said not to use it for swelling because that’s the part that helps stimulate the result. I swell terribly for 3-4 days. Not too painful but I do have high tolerance, and I don’t numb because I’m sensitive to the creams. My gal uses a cannula.

Hi any updates? Are you happy with your results?

Mine gave me a lidocaine injection

That’s a solid question! In my limited google search I’ve come up empty but I’m happy to ask my girl Maria on my next visit!

@@RundownwithRachel thank you 🙏

At least a week. Drink TONS of water leading up to it. If you can, take Berberine to reduce swelling and avoid alcohol and salt leading up to it.

My swelling only lasted about 3 days where you noticed it. They were plumped up a couple days longer and then went back to normal

Hey! It plumps up and smooths the lines, but doesn’t last as long as I was expecting. I can see why mixing with HA would go a long way.

@@RundownwithRachel Thanks for your honesty. I wish it was easier to do on our own.

@@annnemesh of course! I find myself wondering if I am better off to wait a few decades and get a facelift over spending so much on these temporary fixes.

@@RundownwithRachel the point of PRF injections is to eventually lead the body into producing its own collagen and thickening the skin so the hollow is fixed naturally and permanently. Stopping now would be premature.

@@juhadexcelsior Really appreciate your perspective. I can see what you mean given the growth factors in the fibrin. Any idea how frequently this should be done to really give it a fair shot?

Totally agree with you. Now that I have gotten an upper bleph myself, I can see that the bleph is permanent and when you compare to the frequent visits and costs and temporary nature - not worth it. What I do wonder, and is impossible to know is, are there long term benefits with the growth factors of PRF that I am benefiting from? Some surgeons seems to think so especially with fat transfers. Aside from that, I think this is great for someone preparing for a big event and doesn't have the time for recovery that comes with surgery.

Fat transfer can cause blindness

@@RundownwithRacheland it will cause lumps afterwards

Very good points. I’ve considered taking all of my aesthetic videos down because we have no idea what the risks are.

Yes! A few of the times I have! If you can, avoid things like fish oil and alcohol leading up. This last time I did it (several weeks ago) I didn’t swell at all!

@@RundownwithRachel I don’t drink or smoke so that was not the problem. Might be the injector skill? Or I might just be too sensitive.

Hey! It was just PRF under the eyes. No Microneedling.

Micro needling is in addition treatment, and they use the plasma they got left to use on the entire face. I’m a nurse and I do this procedures

We are both impatient I’m sure 😂 I’m 33. Sometimes I wonder how I would look if I didn’t do all this stuff - does it help THAT much? But then I remember I’m a super expressive person which is super aging - so I’m betting I would look 43 😂

thanks for the prompt reply. they are def paying off. you look younger than 33 :) I'm considering morpheus8 and the eye procedure. your results make it promising

It helped reduce the wrinkling under my eyes - which leads me to think “why wouldn’t it help with crows feet?” I’m looking to do PRF again here soon, so I’ll ask - it is so good!!! And in contrast to all the other things it’s cost effective!

You can put PRF in all your problematic áreas crow feet, glabella, nasofolds, cheeks, lines around the lips, and as lip filler

There have been a few times where I didn’t bruise at all! And other times where it took 5 days to go away.

Hey! Thanks for the question. Everyone is different and I’ve seen great results after one session, but be aware it isn’t a permanent fix. Even if you get the results you want, over time you will want maintenance treatments.

@@RundownwithRachel How long do the results last?

Not that I can tell! What I am recognizing now is that it is subtle and that ongoing treatments are necessary. With all that, surgery may be worthwhile to see long lasting results - wherein you do run the risk of being messed up 🤣

Interesting! I haven’t tried it but will be asking my injector!

Hey! As great as this procedure can be, it is subtle and requires multiple treatments overtime - even then it’s still subtle. I really like this for maintaining the skin. May sound dramatic but if you are looking for something more aggressive- surgery (specifically a lower blepharoplasty) is a great option. My upper eyelids have gotten quite heavy and drooping with age and an upper bleph is what I’m looking it in the near future. Which I will cover soon enough!

Exact same! 56 also, face and skin look great - until I smile! I don't have dark circles or bags, tear troughs are ok. But the under eye wrinkes- uggh! 😝 Botox doesn't help for the under eye wrinkles. I'm don't want filler and surgery is not an option. Is this the best option?

Such key questions! Although it gives an initial filler look it does not last as long as filler. What it’s ultimately doing is helping restore the area overtime. I find the results VERY even and natural. I’m also convinced that its slowed down the aging of my undereye area. Now that I’ve been doing it for a few years now I consider it as a restorative, but even more so a proactive treatment.

@@RundownwithRachel that’s great to hear .. I have had bad results with filler and am looking for more natural alternatives to battle aging .. have you had it done anywhere else on your face ?

@@ndl78 I’ve done Microneedling with it which I have a hard time knowing if it really makes a difference. Pretty soon here I’ll try PRF gel for neck lines! Other than that really haven’t had it anywhere else nor do I plan to for the time being. But I can confidently say PRF is the way to go - as I know exactly what you mean about filler.

@@RundownwithRachel thank you for your reply last question how much volume increase under the eyes did you notice after your sessions. Thank you for answering

Each session cost me $500.

Hey! Mine was $500.

Each session ❤️

@@RundownwithRachel Ty!

Oh dear that is frustrating. May I ask how many times you did it? I recently did PRF gel - just one treatment and it I had a similar experience. It’s made me realize that one and done does not last.

​@@RundownwithRachelThanks Rachel. I had 3 treatments 1 month apart and my doc said i might have to wait 3 months after the last treatment to see results. I am hoping to get results like you.❤

@@sanarora be sure to take progress photos! There are many a time I think “am I just throwing away my money?” Only to see a photo from a year prior and I think “Nevermind!”

@@sanaroraany results?

Yes, I do. About 30 units of dysport twice a year. I try and delay as much as I can as over time it’s said people build a tolerance.

I can see why you’re discouraged. Seeing a review from someone younger isn’t as constructive as someone in your own age bracket. On the bright side, as PRF gains more popularity I am willing to bet there will be more representation. Although it may not appear “I need it” I appreciate a natural, prophylactic approach and this seems to meet that preference for me. If nothing else, I hope the video demos on some level that the results are subtle. Although not covered in the video, there are all sorts of undereye options that can be even more impactful depending on what you’re looking for - one of them being CO2 for the undereyes. Another even better resource than my humble channel is “RealSelf” - you can get access to reviews for all sorts of procedures, even get consults from aesthetic professionals anonymously and for free! Hope that helps and appreciate your feedback ❤️

Alright alright I just like cheetah print. It’s not real and I don’t have it anymore. No one or thing was harmed.

@@RundownwithRachel Thank you