7:35 thats awesome how the support comes clean out
@MakersMuse4 жыл бұрын
While I don't agree with kickstarter as preorder / promo by a large company, the prints are super clean. 0.15 on the clearance test is not easy to achieve!!! Crazy how far along bowden ooze control has come in the last few years.
@3DPrintingNerd4 жыл бұрын
That’s just it. That 0.15 clearance test pass was done with default slicer settings. How cool is that?
@poplix27043 жыл бұрын
Will you review it too?
@LordCreo4 жыл бұрын
I've backed this, you get a lot of bang for your buck, and seeing these prints has made me very happy to keep my order!
@bertramagerholm32554 жыл бұрын
True
@toyotatrd4 жыл бұрын
There’s a chance you may not get it though
@batcadragos4 жыл бұрын
@@toyotatrd Creality is not a new company. Everybody will get their machines
@iCatchLupin4 жыл бұрын
@@toyotatrd Considering Creality is one of the most popular brands on the market with a solid reputation, and the printer is in preproduction already, it's a pretty solid bet you'll get your machine.
@broitsdewey4 жыл бұрын
@@toyotatrd Creality has a great reputation and this will help them to communicate with their customer base. Needless to say we Kickstarter supporters are getting nothing but good news. I recommend you support it so you get it a bit cheaper and get a ton of benefits. :D
@theironkodis8826 Жыл бұрын
I bought a 6-SE at MicroCenter and honestly, i am so happy to have a solid and reliable printer where i can hit print and once the first couple layers start, i can do something else without worrying
@Nordern3 жыл бұрын
One more thing i'd like to know when the printer pauses, either by clicking pause or by filament runout: does it dis-engage the stepper motors? Every time i have paused a print on my ender 3, after i think something like 10 minutes, the motors dis-engage, which has allowed it to drop the gantry a little bit, enough to cause a collision when resuming the print, and if the part hasn't popped of due to the cold bed already, the nozzle smashing into it as travel speeds surely would
@TripodsGarage4 жыл бұрын
Great review CR-6se! Definitely the best out of all the reviews that I have watched! Thanks for setting the bar!
@WarrenGarabrandt4 жыл бұрын
20 seconds into your video and I can answer your question. No, you should not back a Kickstarter from an already established company. I don't care how good the product sounds or how promising it looks. In my opinion, Kickstarter is a way for new startup companies to secure funding so that they can begin initial operations. Established companies that use Kickstarter look like they don't want to take responsibility for the risk that product development necessarily entails. It's almost like they haven't done their homework to determine if this new product is viable, so that want to place that risk onto anyone else, rather than exercising due diligence first. Think about it. If you are a company and need money to bring a product to market, you have three options. 1) spend profits from other products you make, meaning you get all the risk and all the profit from the new product; 2) find somebody else willing to fund your development (an investor), but they're going to want some of your profit of the new product in exchange for their risk; 3) go to Kickstarter and beg for money, shifting the risk of failure to others without sharing any of the profits with them if it's successful. Option 3 is CLEARLY a noob startup move you use it you can't go option 1 and option 2 won't step in because they think there's to much risk. There is only so much money available for everyone seeking option 3, so an established company using it to shift their risk hurts other startups and makes them look like greedy jerks. Don't donate your money to profit margins of established companies. Don't keep funding things that the same company keeps going to Kickstarter for over and over after they're gotten their feet under them. Kickstarter isn't a business model, it's a first step for a risky business.
@redavatar4 жыл бұрын
Kickstarter isn't IndieGoGo though and Creality is unlikely to fold so you're as good as certain you'll get the product. I understand your view because it's essentially a pre-order but considering vids like these are available meaning they are not keeping the machine limited to just its specs ... well I'm going to take the risk. I think Creality is indeed using it as a way to get more traction. Don't forget though: Kickstarter eats up a good chunk of the end total so this is not some kind of free marketing trick, they'll likely be selling these machines at very small margins.
@AlexTalksTwo4 жыл бұрын
If Kickstarter doesn't exclude established businesses from it's platform, how is it not a valid business strategy? You can dislike the moral implications of pushing risk onto the consumer, I get that, but at the end of the day, the consumer will back what they want for a variety of reasons. You don't have to back it if you don't agree. R&D can be a costly game and although I can't speak to Creality's financials, I can see the allure to having that cost offset by utilizing Kickstarter
@BigfootRunning4 жыл бұрын
You should direct your frustrations towards “Kickstarter”Creality have simply found an innovative way to market their product and Kickstarter made this possible (while profiting). It got my attention anyway. Perhaps you would like to see Kickstarter add restrictions for established companies. Either way the Creality product appears to be innovative and I am personally attracted to the extras being thrown in with each stretch goal etc. This is actually the first time I’ve looked at Kickstarter despite knowing about it for years. I have since been browsing many interesting products, many from smaller start up companies and artists. I will end up pledging for additional products that otherwise I may not have discovered. Just trying to find a positive spin. 👍 Thanks for the vid Joel, I’ve been hanging out for your follow up. Nice work.
@WarrenGarabrandt4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexTalksTwo Sure I get what you're saying. Ideally: Businesses would act ethically and not offset the risk of development to people who have no recourse. Realistically: Everyone is going to do whatever they can get away with. I get that the gulf between idealistic and realistic behavior is a wide one. My point is that businesses shouldn't be taking advantage of a system designed to help startups get going. They're going to do whatever they want to though, and I'm going to continue looking down on and harshly judging that practice. Up to the point of refusing to do business with some businesses that badly abuse it. Creality shouldn't be doing this, but I'm just simply not going to join that kickstarter. You and everyone else has to figure out where the line is for you.
@simpli67924 жыл бұрын
Lets just hope 3 million dollars is enough money for this “project”
@poodlescone97004 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review. I am going to wait until the CR6 is officially released before picking one up.
@halifornia20014 жыл бұрын
You'll end up eating the (approximately) $100 difference. Considering the track record of Creality and their quality products, this KS isn't really a risk versus unproven companies.
@aviatoFPV4 жыл бұрын
@@halifornia2001 Too bad I missed it, I would love one or the max version. Guess I'll have to wait a long time.
@andyspoo24 жыл бұрын
The retail price will drop. It just depends how long it will take. If the Ender 3 had the same leveling sensor I'd but that.
@mcoprops99924 жыл бұрын
andy parry how much is it?
@power24extreme4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joel! Great review on this product and very helpful for someone looking in to making this printer his very first printer (like myself). I did "pull the trigger" and back the printer, partly because of your feedback. I share your excitement and partly your concerns as well. I look forward to seeing you work with this machine, but also I look forward to using it myself. 😊 Take care! High five! (From a safe distance)
@liamm3473 жыл бұрын
Updates for us? How do you like it? Is all the rumors of the bad customer service / shipping true?
@johane66104 жыл бұрын
Great review. Sounds like your only gripe with the use of kickstarter, which I can agree with. Happy with that as I backed the project yesterday
@nikkimoyle52203 жыл бұрын
This machine brings me so much joy. I don't have use of my thumbs and this machine just takes away a lot of the struggles i had with my other ones.
@magnussamuelsson26302 жыл бұрын
It does? I am seriously considering buying one... So please tell me more about your thoughts about it.
@nikkimoyle52202 жыл бұрын
@@magnussamuelsson2630 Its a fantastic machine honestly. I've had it for around 6 weeks and can't fault it. I have no use of either of my thumbs and this machine takes away all the stress of gripping clips and things. It printed perfectly out of the box and still does now
@magnussamuelsson26302 жыл бұрын
@@nikkimoyle5220 How is that auto-leveling-thing doing? This is pretty much the reason why I am considering.
@nikkimoyle52202 жыл бұрын
@@magnussamuelsson2630 its okay! not always the best and sometimes (rarely) i have to level twice but its still kicking! deff made a difference in my prints
@KGillis4 жыл бұрын
My main worry is all of these high profile reviewers being sent the best printers, and the build quality varying heavily once production happens. As much as I love my CR-10, it's taken a lot of work to get it to a state where it's reliable, with plenty of aftermarket parts, and the build plate that came with it wasn't even usable due to warping. I'm hopeful that the production units will be as polished as the review units, but I'll have to wait until some of these are in the field before I decide to throw down the money.
@nerys714 жыл бұрын
they have send me BROKEN hardware that I had to fix. heck my cr6 SE stopping working live on stream (grubs came lose on the drive gear in the feeder) let me tell you it was no fun getting that spring back in. Most of these established companies can't be bothered to try and "cherry pick" units for people.
@johndododoe14114 жыл бұрын
@@nerys71 Aren't the review units made using rapid techniques such as 3D printed parts where final would be injection molded?
@mindofneryspoliticsetc62974 жыл бұрын
@@johndododoe1411 some were but mine came with all injection molded parts
@GuyWhoReviewsStuff4 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand why a established company like Creality is having to run a KickStarter for this printer.
@HowDareYouu4 жыл бұрын
cuz they are greedy and they want to transfer all the costs on regular people
@scrapjack4 жыл бұрын
Feels more like a pre-order. Not seeing the greed side?
@Frostfly4 жыл бұрын
It's not totally greed, it's risk avoidance. Crowdsource the tooling...or don't if no one wants it.
@UncleGunns4 жыл бұрын
Ever spent $1.5m in cash up front hoping to sell your products? I didn't think so.
@Martial-Mat4 жыл бұрын
@@HowDareYouu EXACTLY!
@crayonph71034 жыл бұрын
I was waiting to see if the leveling-free technology will be tested in this review. Sad that it wasn't.
@CanuckCreator4 жыл бұрын
Its using a nozzle probe, nozzle impact beds, causes it to hit a FSR switch in the toolhead i believe, so its doing a mesh level like every other printer with a probe of some sort (inductive, bl touch etc.) Nothing super special
@tonykyle26554 жыл бұрын
I've seen other reviews and it was tested. It works. There is no manual leveling, only live Z adjust.
@HowTo114144 жыл бұрын
He has another video on it i think
@Creative_Electronics4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Joel! You deserve more than 1 million Subscribers!!
@mannyt2144 жыл бұрын
Very interested in getting this only there are 2 things in the way: 1. debating on whether to buy a prusa mini or one of these 2. Not entirely interested in backing in it on kickstarter so I may have to wait.
@lilietto14 жыл бұрын
In the same exact position, but I don't do kickstarters and the mini has 4 months lead time. So I'm going to wait after summer... I already have an ender 3 after all.
@larryb67594 жыл бұрын
I backed it for 1 last night. Thanks for your in depth content on this printer.
@anthonyrich15924 жыл бұрын
1:46 "The build dimensions are 235 on X, 235 on Y and 250 on Zee or Zed, though the build plate size is nearly the same as a Prusa Mk3 flex plate rotated ninety degrees." Wait, what? My English parser must be broken. Isn't a 235 x 235mm bed rotated ninety degrees... still 235 x 235mm???
@EricBliesener4 жыл бұрын
Rotated 90 degrees on the X or Y axis, not the Z.
@Parallax86724 жыл бұрын
I backed this machine early on, and I'm glad I did. I've got the E3P but this has everything I've been hoping for IMO. Best review of the CR 6-SE I've seen so far. New subscriber! Thank you!
@shawnmulberry7743 жыл бұрын
My favorite moment. 17:50 "I'm sure we'll put the name on screen" "Nope"
@IanDouglas4 жыл бұрын
Hey Joel, just a quick update in case you haven't been following. Kickstarter users are FURIOUS with Creality over this printer. Many of them are arriving broken, miswired, potentially bad enough to be fire hazards, faulty power switches which might be shorted out, and today they announced that they're starting to sell to resellers before even completing their kickstarter backers' orders. I received my printer yesterday without ANY of the add-ons I ordered (almost $200-$250 worth), and many others have had the same thing happen. Creality is deflecting and not answering questions directly at all. I think you should seriously consider posting a third update about everything going on, maybe reach out to Creality about it, because being such an enthusiastic/vocal person who supported the idea of this campaign, their recent shenanigans might reflect poorly on your channel which I really love and support.
@nickdarrow48734 жыл бұрын
I've commented on Naomi 'SexyCyborg' Wu's video as well.
@drewcourtney3764 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of boardgame companies, COMPANIES, that use Kickstarter as a "pre-order" system. Not just indie folks. So Kickstarter has evolved, or at least, companies are using it for things like this. Thank you for that look at the machine!!
@that_benji4 жыл бұрын
Well, I had been on the fence for as while but after watching this I've decided to back this project. Thanks Joel
@senorhedvoycez60174 жыл бұрын
What I learned after getting a CR10...spend way more and get a production unit from a reputable brand. Creality products work, but if you think you are getting value based only on price...um no. Glass with clips? Still?
@nerys714 жыл бұрын
glass with clips is one of my favorite features. it means I can VERY easily swap out to any bed I wish without having to permanently mod the machine. Very end user friendly.
@mannyt2144 жыл бұрын
love how informative and fun you make your videos Joel
@FusionSource4 жыл бұрын
Of course your words matter Joel. Very keen on this new printer. Creality is going far. I like the clips. Looks like a promising machine.
@richybigwheels4 жыл бұрын
I've backed it and looking forward to getting my machine! Great review, thanks!
@halifornia20014 жыл бұрын
Backed it, because of this video. Great features, good improvements over the Ender 3 that (I think) justifies the price difference. And with a 32-bit board (was a stretch goal that was met) it's just that much better.
@robertotomas4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Im stuck in a time warp when a 2020 product so new it is still in kickstarter is still coming out with microusb
@daniel-pablo4 жыл бұрын
I feel dirty from the fact I wish it was mini usb
@MiesvanderLippe4 жыл бұрын
Cheap, works, semi-durable, cheap & available cables.
@nerys714 жыл бұрын
actually thats a big "upgrade" for us :-) all past machines are MINI USB though I actually think mini is superior for this application (sturdier) Would have loved USB C but there really is no point on something like this.
@halifornia20014 жыл бұрын
And what would you have wanted? USB-C? That's BARELY showing up in notebook PCs right now, and open source drivers are too damn new (source: Linux kernel dev as my day job).
@dimitri8774 жыл бұрын
As an owner of a Ender 3 Pro, which I bought with the glass bed as an extra option, this kinda feels like an Ender 3 with all the most popular upgrades from the community.. That said, I can't judge the hot end, sensors and electronics of course. On top of that, I can hardly imagine a Creality printer would disappoint. Informative video as usual, thanks Joel.
@lawrence43014 жыл бұрын
This is a preference thing but I'd take a glass bed over a flexible bed anyday.
@MarcAntoine014 жыл бұрын
Same
@Zeesneakyninja4 жыл бұрын
Flexible is just that much more convenient for people doing a lot of smaller Objects that don’t require glass.
@MidnightMarrow4 жыл бұрын
I've never used a flex bed but I can see where they would be nice in ways. That said though, my CR-10S came with it's glass and once leveled properly it prints amazingly on it and I don't use any glues or tapes to do so. Sticks quite well to the bed yet can be pried off easily enough as well after a minute of cooling.
@MKultrapdx4 жыл бұрын
I used the flexible that came with my ender 3 pro one time and replaced it with glass. Its stuck to my office mini fridge with no intention of ever using it again.
@EDCKnifeAddiction2 жыл бұрын
Well, its a year later and i have two of them. Yes there are those machines. I love the cr6
@franscartoons4 жыл бұрын
Aren't glass beds usually considered an upgrade? I know a flexible pad has it's advantages, but wouldn't a glass bed as standard be a good thing?
@lawrence43014 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'd take a glass bed over a flexible bed anyday.
@schnibie19914 жыл бұрын
Yup glasbed and 3D Lac is the best combination Ive ever used
@pixel_arc85504 жыл бұрын
the Creality Ender 3 pro glass is amazing. it has some kind of coating that just makes everything stick. I print PLA at 35C bed and PETG at 40C, havent had a print come loose in half a year. Im using a brim though, as its easy to remove and you can reduce temps even further. I have no idea why people print PLA at 60C bed, just not use a flat glass pane.
@nerys714 жыл бұрын
i will never go back to a solid bed from flexible again if I can help it. the convenience factor is just too huge. I also like doing heater off printing which you really can't do with glass (when your running 20 machines the electric bill can be quite substantial unless you can turn the heat bed off :-)
@paulr42794 жыл бұрын
Great video, Joel. I’m tempted. Well done on 400k subs. ✋
@3DPrintingNerd4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JoeRoscoe_DFW3 жыл бұрын
Also backed it with options. Great machine, no probs. Also got Prusa Mini. I prefer the Mini, but need a bigger build plate from time to time. Software design on the touchscreen is a bit clunky. These are my first two machines. I want to thank you and the rest of the KZfaqrs in the 3D printing community for your contribution to getting me down the learning curve.
@incognitoatunknown27024 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this video. Kickstarting this and can't wait to get it.
@PyroChimp754 жыл бұрын
Im confused, why does this printer need a kickstarter?, the company creality could easily build these printers without it? It's their brand after all :S
@Hyatice4 жыл бұрын
Rule #1 of business is to never use your own money. Why do digital-only games with digital-only preorder bonuses need to have preorder periods at all? Because it generates cashflow to be put toward production before there is even a product to sell.
@LordXenuSaves4 жыл бұрын
@@Hyatice Its more for the marketing aspect
@SolidGreenDay4 жыл бұрын
@@Hyatice yeah, but its never good practice to pre-order a video game that no one knows whether it is good or not if its not released. For this printer however, its just about specs. Specs of stuff that have been in the market. We all know dual z lead screws, auto bed levelling sensors, filament runout sensors etc. So its pretty simple to kickstart that compared to pre-ordering a game. Bad comparison as popular companies kickstarting is very beneficial to everyone, while pre-ordering a game is only beneficial to the devs/publishers since the game can be bad, while the printer cannot be bad
@giannagonzalez47073 жыл бұрын
I have backed this after your first opening of it and video upload. thank you!
@DanielpP-md2gz4 жыл бұрын
Chilling with an ender 3
@michaelplaczek93854 жыл бұрын
Same
@pixel_arc85504 жыл бұрын
@@michaelplaczek9385 Same (the pro though), its amazing with Cura, best entry level 3d printer to this day, perfect to learn along with upgrades etc. as well.
@halifornia20014 жыл бұрын
Makes sense if you've already got one. I needed to replace my FDM, and this makes sense vs the Ender 3 (less hassle, better features), and the KS price point is decent.
@AndrewCislak4 жыл бұрын
I’m stuck deciding between backing this vs an Ender 3 pro for $200. Any thoughts?
@pixel_arc85504 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewCislak I run an ender 3 pro and with the right profile (Cura) you can get absolutely perfect prints with common materials. The only problem I ever ran into is the fact that you kinda need to replace the extruder feeding part with a metal kit (10-15$, its super easy to install) because the stock one might break. Id say that if you dont want to print fancy materials like PC, the ender 3 pro is a steal of a deal at 200$. If you have the money and know that you will stick with 3d printing, the CR6 might still be worth it. However, if you want the abality to have access to the largest community that has the same printer and the most mods, the ender 3 right now is the best in this regard. Modding support for the CR6 will likely be large too within a short while as the printers arent too different I think. Over all, if the difference in price seems like its worth it to you (auto leveling is kinda cool to be honest, especially if you are a beginner) for the many quality and quality of life improvements, go for the CR6. If you are not sure you will stick to the hobby or your budget is a bit tighter, better get an ender 3 (with the metal extruder kit would be best, it really is super easy and cheap). The leftover 80$ is enough to pay for 2-3 rolls of filament or any further upgrades you might want down the line. Final note: Please use Cura, nkt Creality Slicer. I conducted a small test and Creality Slicer is pretty good, but Cura has so so many more options and results in visibly better prints. Also, Cura has the former mod called Creawsome integrated into its Creality profiles. This mod is basically an almost perfect profile in every regard, its absolutely amazing. Pardon the eventual typo, Im on mobile and english isnt my first language.
@Poesghost3 жыл бұрын
Your channel is just so awesome. You should have more subscribers. Just love your content, how you take time to explain things.
@danvercillo4 жыл бұрын
Great review Joel, your reviews are always thorough and entertaining!
@Vertigo0104 жыл бұрын
Please do a new review, or update this one regarding Creality's poor policies and management of their Kickstarter project. As you can see in comments, these products are not shipping, shipped late, shipped wrong, and when/if they do arrive many are broken, damaged or haven't been QC'ed before shipping. Creality needs to be held accountable for managing such poor products and process.
@theagilemaker4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joel! Great video as always... After all my hassles with printing PETG on my CR-10 Mini over the past week, this is very, very, veeeeeeeeee... *deep breath* ... eeeeeery tempting.
@SolidGreenDay4 жыл бұрын
$319 is honestly pretty fair. Considering the upgrades in specs that they did can be done on a $200 printer that doesnt have them. It would still cost close or more than $320 total, while also risking damaging the printer itself. I don't think the auto bed leveller is as good as the bltouch, but its still going to do its job.
@WreckDiver994 жыл бұрын
Many are upset that this isn't really a "Kick Starter" in terms of needing R&D Funds, and more of a Pre-Order, but I'm OK with it. I know way too many people that have been burned by KickStarters that sounded amazing, should have been great, and then NOPE nothing...never got the product. I backed this, only because I liked the idea, and I have a Ender3 that I have literally put over 6,000 hours onto since getting it...kilo after kilo of filament through it, and it JUST FREAKING WORKS. Many have no luck with their Ender3...I've had my ups and downs, but lately? ALL GOOD like for the past 2.5 years all good...I don't even have a BLTouch or the like on it...I haven't touched the level in 4 or 5 months...but it just works. :)
@jazzyjeff3133 жыл бұрын
You’re the best! Merry Christmas.
@redavatar4 жыл бұрын
I much prefer that kind of glass over flexible build plate because that gets scratched so easily. My glass plate still looks as good as new on my Ender 3.
@woodwaker14 жыл бұрын
I have the same plate from Creality on both of my Ender 5s and my Ender 5 Plus, works great
@LordCreo4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have it on my Ender 3 and it works well, just releases as it cools.
@woodwaker14 жыл бұрын
I ordered mine the first day. Shipping seems high, but does look like a great machine. I agree that the kickstarter is more like an advertising ploy, but seems to have worked.
@maskofskin4 жыл бұрын
Shipping on the site is listed k in HK, about $20 USD.
@richdobbs65953 жыл бұрын
A year later, trying to get back into 3D printing, I bought this machine. So far, it's worked great with Creality filament, although it has been a real challenge to get prints to release. With my ancient previously opened filament, I've not been able to get it to stick prints. I've got two more ancient but never-removed-from-the packaging filaments to try. Wish me luck...
@thisolman4 жыл бұрын
The trick to using the Creality glass build surface (on my Ender 3 Pro) for ABS is to coat it with ABS dissolved in acetone. It sticks very will. I turn off the fan and heat the bed to 100C, nozzle temp (+-)220C . I've used it quite a bit. I need an enclosure to print large ABS prints. I get layer separation at about 3/4" tall. I have two separate glass surfaces, one for PLA, cleaned with alcohol and the other for ABS with the coating above.
@gonzalocanada65684 жыл бұрын
The flexible filament is filaflex from recreus, a Spanish company. The website was on the spool. They also make some less flexible ones that are easier to print on a bowden setup
@ScottLahteine4 жыл бұрын
I’m helping Creality with firmware stuff for the Ender 3 v2, but there’s likely to be some overlap with this model, so be sure to keep us posted about any issues you see. The probe is particularly great. You get the very best results when the probe is the nozzle.
@nerys714 жыл бұрын
To be fair its $29 more than a Prusa mini and is in many ways a superior machine with a much bigger build volume. soooooo Take that how you may :-)
@steph22114 жыл бұрын
Great video, if you were to purchase your first 3D printer what would be your choice between Anycubic mega x or Creality CR-6?
@declantiberiuskelly12634 жыл бұрын
Great video, all my hugs from Dublin :)
@3DPrintingNerd4 жыл бұрын
Socially distant hugs right back
@MikeLee03 жыл бұрын
No Joel.. it's YOU who is awesome !
@mistero-uk4 жыл бұрын
As always Joel an awesome video! You always have me hooked, and your nerdy jokes I just can't help laughing at :-) top job buddy and thank you for your insight. I've also backed this so lets see what turns up eh :-)
@bipolarchemist4 жыл бұрын
I love the hug each other, but high five from a safe distance. Great video and can't wait to see some testing with different build plates to get those ABS prints to stick. Can't wait to get my CR-6 when ever it arrives.
@shaunsaggers4 жыл бұрын
thanks, mate. gave me a lot to think about. definitely keen if you follow through on what you hinted at right at the end of the video.
@Eyoutube994 жыл бұрын
Actually it is still very much a kickstarter project. The simple answer is the same for a lot of Kickstarter projects. Ordering mass amounts of components for the associated volume based lower cost is dependent on volume of sales to justify and secure the orders of parts. Most Kickstarter projects are exactly this. People are probably confused because they have a recognized brand already.
@bphenwood4 жыл бұрын
Creality is smart in doing this. They get most (if not all) the money up front for a production run of a new printer that they were unsure if it had market share. The truth is...You can get an Ender 3 and upgrade it and it will be cheaper than this printer at retail and will get as good as or better prints. The CR-6 isn't earth shattering in what its bringing to the table. There's nothing "new" or exciting about it...As in no new tech being revealed. Linear rails and ball screws would have been a nice upgrade. But in the end, it basically an updated looking smaller CR-10. Don't get me wrong...The updates they made to it are nice and what a lot of people are already doing. But for the same price you can get better upgrades and make it the way you want it. For a brand new user to 3D printers...this is a very nice option. I still like it. But I don't think think bang the buck is there if you plan on doing mods. $429 is a lot of cash you can use for upgrades to an already popular and very good printer.
@RicoZed4 жыл бұрын
A pre-order system....maybe...except that with kickstarter you don't have any warranty, you receive a prototype.... and kickstarter is not a store. no refund, no warraty if you are not plenty satisfied. Anyway, a really good video as always, nice catapult !
@livingtanith4 жыл бұрын
Joel, thank you!! I backed it too and I'm already accumulating STLs to print.
@pixel_arc85504 жыл бұрын
*Shameless plug* I have one you might find useful one day: www.thingiverse.com/thing:4133753 I made this to combat the problem he mentioned of the filament not feeding into the PTFE tube properly. On my Ender 3 I have to take the tube of everytime I want to change filamnts, no idea why. Maybe you find this useful, anyway thanks for reading and have fun printing.
@chasonthedon4 жыл бұрын
I got mine in the mail today! So excited
@nickdarrow48734 жыл бұрын
3D Printing Nerd, Please address Creality's CR6 SE Kickstarter problems and the QC issues in one of your videos. They are not being honest with the Backers, and there are major QC problems- Serial defect fire hazards, and faulty parts causing reliably unreliable print operation. I backed this project with your review as reinforcement to do so. You will lose me as a subscriber if these problems are not addressed on your channel, via video. Thank you for your time.
@nickdarrow48734 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the live stream. Very attentive to our concerns, and I greatly appreciate it. You've held my subscription.
@MMuraseofSandvich4 жыл бұрын
Re: ABS I wonder if the open frame has anything to do with it? Otherwise yeah, PEI should do the trick, or maybe hairspray/ABS Gloop on bare glass. I have not tried ABS juice yet, it's on my bucket list. I'm assuming the filament was bone dry when you tried it.
@TAOWEIXIONG19804 жыл бұрын
Thanks for giving us a first look! I tried to purchase the Ender 3-Pro from Ali 3 times with no luck. My money is on hold and said they can't ship from China to US. Was reluctant but ended up backing the Kickstarter for CR-6. It looks like they're shipping from HK. First time on KS and never owned a printer. I thoroughly enjoy all your videos. Thank you!
@donavincaballero59764 жыл бұрын
They got hundreds at microcenter here in my town i was shocked! They also have the auto bed leveling accessorie
@Riddick_45064 жыл бұрын
Really been waiting for a 3D printer of this quality to buy for awhile now. But went to go back this, and can't believe the one credit card I have (Discover) will not work!! WTF am I to do!! Can't believe it!!
@elijahrabb33034 жыл бұрын
You have until June 5th, I hope you get it working.
@genesis834 жыл бұрын
to be fair .. creality did state in one of there live streams that the primary and main reason was to use it as a pre-order platform and to see how popular the machine would be
@DrAskildsen3 жыл бұрын
I got this and it has no prefab on the following SD card. I love the design.
@vapourvault4 жыл бұрын
Backed and Ordered mine !! Thanks for the review of it :) I don’t mind it being pre order service to be honest
@3dprinteverything134 жыл бұрын
Got it for $265, can’t wait to get my hands on it.
@robertkelly39484 жыл бұрын
But the shipping is super expensive
@mathewcoppola86224 жыл бұрын
@@robertkelly3948 $20 isn't very expensive. Or did you not realize their shipping in listed in HK dollars?
@MikeMardini4 жыл бұрын
How? Kickstarter shows 319
@Highatthetime4 жыл бұрын
@@MikeMardini If you scroll to the bottom of the rewards you will see that there were lower price tiers that are now sold out. 200 people got the $265 bracket, 500 people (myself included) got it at $299 etc etc. Note that the dollar values are approximate since its valued in Hong Kong dollars and the exchange rate will fluctuate. If someone cancels their pledge, sometimes these lower tiers come available.
@robhamilton50574 жыл бұрын
i hear you on the flexible build plate but i have a (i think) similar bed on my cr10- v2 - i have come from a flashforge printer with a flexible build plate and while i loved that i found the usual problems of prints not sticking... with that i had to use a glue stick and a raft every time to get it to work. granted, as soon as the print was done i could remove the build plate, bend it and get the print off but...the build plate on the cr-10 which i think is the same one as this is fantastic, i use isopropyl to clean the bed and as long as i have levelled it propperly it sticks straight away and my first layer is beautiful. once the print is finished and the bed cools the print literally pops off so i dont need a flexible bed anyway. took me a while to get used to it but i love it now.
@michaels30034 жыл бұрын
The flexible print was of a benchy that had spent some time at the bottom of a sea or an ocean...
@TheBludgutz4 жыл бұрын
ABS is my stock print, now you know someone that prints ABS!
@michaels30034 жыл бұрын
Joel, very nicely done and a great selection of prints to show of. People who can exercise some patience (we live in a I-want-it-now society) will be rewarded with a very good printer (in its class) for a lower price.
@jamiebmorton4 жыл бұрын
How does this compare to the Creality 3D CR-10S Pro V2?
@Spartacusse4 жыл бұрын
Complaining about not having a flexible build plate, shows how Joel is out of loop in regards to Ender-3 owners, when everyone and their cats bought the glass build plate specifically to remove the flexible one. (Mostly because beds are warped and the glass fixes that).
@pixel_arc85504 жыл бұрын
Just a quick note for everyone using Creality Slicer: It's not worth it. I didn't know that even existed, but I just tried a bit with my Ender 3 and the result is: Cura is better. top surfaces are cleaner, layers are more consistent (esp. visible with semi-transparent filaments) and details are better. On the Benchy, the lower front looked a bit more clean, but only very little, in general Cura was far superior, not even considering the advanced options. Of course, my Cura profile is more tuned, I made most of the sae adjustments to my Creality Slicer profile as well though. Maybe, there is more to be gained, but as an advanced user, Cura definitely is better in my opinion. I dont know how just the plain stock profiles compare and I only tested one filament (an experimental spool from Spektrum filaments, only exp. colors though) which was semi-transparent and therefore is a good benchmark. I don't want to hate on Creality Slicer, just wanted to throw my results out there.
@geoffkim43274 жыл бұрын
Yeah totally agree with you Joel. I don't get why Creality went the Kickstarter route. I've back a couple of failed Kickstarters, and they really have a reputation of maybe you'll get something, maybe you won't. Is Creality really hurting for R&D investment that badly?
@moonobservergilles57302 жыл бұрын
in 2020 it was on kick starter but not in 2022. on amazon 569 Can . I am analysing if i will buy this model seems interresting to me. would be my first 3D printer. after looking at so many models, why does Creality not add thos bars like on the cr 10 v 3 on all those models that place the filament roll on top? It would make the hole printer more rigid and stable no?
@davidnguyen68234 жыл бұрын
I am actually considering it even though I just got my Ender 3 Pro a few months ago
@jochemsmale88434 жыл бұрын
Same here
@DAGODER4 жыл бұрын
Same here very happy with my Ender 3 Pro, great printer for the price. So I pre-ordered it I was going to wait, but I knew I would end up buying so it makes sense to get it while its cheaper. This 6E has features I wish the Pro had. Now I will have 2 printers, am I Official a farm now? LOL.
@taylornathan4174 жыл бұрын
I know that flexi benchi may not be the prettiest, but damn default settings and old filament that's a hell of a good print from a Bowden!
@Robothut4 жыл бұрын
Fun review. Now if only I needed another 3d printer.
@woodwaker14 жыл бұрын
You always need another
@my1lastword4 жыл бұрын
I know there’s tons of Ender and CR10 channels out there (hopefully they continue with the CR6 as well) but I’m excited to see Joel jump in more on this and maybe potentially make some getting started or tips and tricks in his style when the CR6 ships!
@curtpangracs86844 жыл бұрын
Great point about the morphing of KS! I've been active with KS campaigns from almost day 1, and have been burned by a couple. Presenting almost complete products gives backers a heckuva lot more confidence that they will actually see a product in the end, so I have no problem with KS as a "pre-order" system. In fact, I kind of prefer it.
@jeffb56153 жыл бұрын
I picked one of these up used in a package deal with a Prusa Mk2. I'm pleasantly surprised it's actually a great little printer.
@DargoDog4 жыл бұрын
Looks like what I want as a second printer (have a CR10 now). But, I really don't want to fiddle with the whole Kickstarter silliness, just want to buy it. Great review!!!
@DwenDooley4 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks! I do hope they leave the build plate on during paused prints, that needs to happen. I actually wish (and I'm sure there will be a hack for it later) there was a way for an audible alarm to sound, as well. Even if they just have a normally-open connection get closed by the runout sensor so I can connect a buzzer or whatever.. I don't care too much about ABS not sticking, I've never printed with it, and between warping and fumes, I'm not really interested. The flexi was a pretty amazing fail, but I wasn't expecting a bowden to print flexi super great anyway. I actually have only used direct drive on my Anet A6, so I'm not well-versed on the bowden style. (How do you continue a run-out on bowden, anyway? Does new filament just force the other through the tube reliably and contiguously?) I think the kickstarter price is a good deal and it looks like it's going to be worth it.
@jonathanamsellem31904 жыл бұрын
it has to change gap ( reduce gap between nozzle and bed) because there is a retraction between nozzle and bed
@DAGODER4 жыл бұрын
I thought the same. This is for them to get a feel of the demand for this model category. So it was a pre-order system and some cash infusion. But it will be hard from the pre order system to find out how many people are going to order the unit once it hits full production. They will need to dump the ender 3 pro. They need to have a cheap sub $200 printer (Ender 3) and then this unit in the mid $300 I would say $350. FYI I pre ordered , I have an Ender 3 Pro, and slowing building farm so this new unit is cheap.
@peterjigstad97554 жыл бұрын
Great content in all your videos, I really like your style and your presentations! But I can't find any unboxing / review on Creality Ender-3 Pro. Is it something I have missed or do you plan to make some video on that 3d printer? :-)
@victorial88674 жыл бұрын
So I know I and at least another person who after seeing your review decided to go ahead and back this printer. Seeing how creality has dropped the ball and all aspects of this " Kickstarter,"such as broken printers arriving, with no replies to help emails, the fact they are selling to people via chat and other means when they stated that kickstarter's would all receive their printers for such retail, but clearly have not stopped to that. Not telling backers who pledged even more money for add-ons that no matter what tier they pledged or time frame they had chosen would get pushed to the back of the line and completely ignored. As well as seeing the mean feature of the printers selling point being the auto level bed, but actually functioning properly, or units arriving that won't turn on or turn off mid prints, Etc. Has your opinion on this printer changed? I regret backing this printer, it was a lot of money and they splurge for myself and this being my first creality printer has certainly left a bad taste in my mouth for this company.
@juaniboy36894 жыл бұрын
What is your opinion cr-6se compared to the Ender 3 Pro? Price performance, print quality, upgrades, etc. How do you see it? Would the Creality cr-6 se be a better investment than an Ender 3 Pro? I like your content. Keep it up👍🏻
@ajc44773 жыл бұрын
As an added bonus you can also toast marshmallows on it!
@JohnJaggerJack4 жыл бұрын
Clearly, this printer was not designed by an engineer, but rather by a marketing department, let me explain: Dual ZZ motors, linked together by a sync belt... for what? Either it has 1 ZZ motor driving both lead screws via a synchro belt or have 2 zz motors driving each zz lead screws, separately, where the auto-leveling function keeps them in sync and leveled. There are many other severe flaws that Joel pointed out, like the dodgy firmware. But this one, in particular, triggered me the most. I hope the marketing department had these into consideration when coming up with a price. Other than that, good review, very thorough.
@remotheman4 жыл бұрын
It's used for syncing in case of missed steps, I have seen that solution some time ago. It looks like you can disconnect that belt - so whats the problem? Also - autolevel is not able to keep z motors in sync when they're radomly loosing steps - belt helps with that(if one motor loose step - another keeps gantry in sync by helping rotate first motor leadscrew). Of course Z motors should not loose steps to begin with.
@johnnydospassos51673 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video. Do you think that the CR-6 SE is a more precise printer compared to Creality3D CR-5 Pro ?
@LICCG4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joel I did back it too. Reason: it seems as a neophyte to 3D printing this machine has a lot of new technology that when I have exhaustively studied all the 3D KZfaqr it incorporates a majority their wish lists