7:35 thats awesome how the support comes clean out

While I don't agree with kickstarter as preorder / promo by a large company, the prints are super clean. 0.15 on the clearance test is not easy to achieve!!! Crazy how far along bowden ooze control has come in the last few years.

I've backed this, you get a lot of bang for your buck, and seeing these prints has made me very happy to keep my order!

I bought a 6-SE at MicroCenter and honestly, i am so happy to have a solid and reliable printer where i can hit print and once the first couple layers start, i can do something else without worrying

One more thing i'd like to know when the printer pauses, either by clicking pause or by filament runout: does it dis-engage the stepper motors? Every time i have paused a print on my ender 3, after i think something like 10 minutes, the motors dis-engage, which has allowed it to drop the gantry a little bit, enough to cause a collision when resuming the print, and if the part hasn't popped of due to the cold bed already, the nozzle smashing into it as travel speeds surely would

Great review CR-6se! Definitely the best out of all the reviews that I have watched! Thanks for setting the bar!

20 seconds into your video and I can answer your question. No, you should not back a Kickstarter from an already established company. I don't care how good the product sounds or how promising it looks. In my opinion, Kickstarter is a way for new startup companies to secure funding so that they can begin initial operations. Established companies that use Kickstarter look like they don't want to take responsibility for the risk that product development necessarily entails. It's almost like they haven't done their homework to determine if this new product is viable, so that want to place that risk onto anyone else, rather than exercising due diligence first. Think about it. If you are a company and need money to bring a product to market, you have three options. 1) spend profits from other products you make, meaning you get all the risk and all the profit from the new product; 2) find somebody else willing to fund your development (an investor), but they're going to want some of your profit of the new product in exchange for their risk; 3) go to Kickstarter and beg for money, shifting the risk of failure to others without sharing any of the profits with them if it's successful. Option 3 is CLEARLY a noob startup move you use it you can't go option 1 and option 2 won't step in because they think there's to much risk. There is only so much money available for everyone seeking option 3, so an established company using it to shift their risk hurts other startups and makes them look like greedy jerks. Don't donate your money to profit margins of established companies. Don't keep funding things that the same company keeps going to Kickstarter for over and over after they're gotten their feet under them. Kickstarter isn't a business model, it's a first step for a risky business.

Lets just hope 3 million dollars is enough money for this “project”

Thanks for this review. I am going to wait until the CR6 is officially released before picking one up.

Thanks Joel! Great review on this product and very helpful for someone looking in to making this printer his very first printer (like myself). I did "pull the trigger" and back the printer, partly because of your feedback. I share your excitement and partly your concerns as well. I look forward to seeing you work with this machine, but also I look forward to using it myself. 😊 Take care! High five! (From a safe distance)

Great review. Sounds like your only gripe with the use of kickstarter, which I can agree with. Happy with that as I backed the project yesterday

This machine brings me so much joy. I don't have use of my thumbs and this machine just takes away a lot of the struggles i had with my other ones.

My main worry is all of these high profile reviewers being sent the best printers, and the build quality varying heavily once production happens. As much as I love my CR-10, it's taken a lot of work to get it to a state where it's reliable, with plenty of aftermarket parts, and the build plate that came with it wasn't even usable due to warping. I'm hopeful that the production units will be as polished as the review units, but I'll have to wait until some of these are in the field before I decide to throw down the money.

I still don't understand why a established company like Creality is having to run a KickStarter for this printer.

I was waiting to see if the leveling-free technology will be tested in this review. Sad that it wasn't.

Awesome video Joel! You deserve more than 1 million Subscribers!!

Very interested in getting this only there are 2 things in the way: 1. debating on whether to buy a prusa mini or one of these 2. Not entirely interested in backing in it on kickstarter so I may have to wait.

I backed it for 1 last night. Thanks for your in depth content on this printer.

1:46 "The build dimensions are 235 on X, 235 on Y and 250 on Zee or Zed, though the build plate size is nearly the same as a Prusa Mk3 flex plate rotated ninety degrees." Wait, what? My English parser must be broken. Isn't a 235 x 235mm bed rotated ninety degrees... still 235 x 235mm???

I backed this machine early on, and I'm glad I did. I've got the E3P but this has everything I've been hoping for IMO. Best review of the CR 6-SE I've seen so far. New subscriber! Thank you!

My favorite moment. 17:50 "I'm sure we'll put the name on screen" "Nope"

Hey Joel, just a quick update in case you haven't been following. Kickstarter users are FURIOUS with Creality over this printer. Many of them are arriving broken, miswired, potentially bad enough to be fire hazards, faulty power switches which might be shorted out, and today they announced that they're starting to sell to resellers before even completing their kickstarter backers' orders. I received my printer yesterday without ANY of the add-ons I ordered (almost $200-$250 worth), and many others have had the same thing happen. Creality is deflecting and not answering questions directly at all. I think you should seriously consider posting a third update about everything going on, maybe reach out to Creality about it, because being such an enthusiastic/vocal person who supported the idea of this campaign, their recent shenanigans might reflect poorly on your channel which I really love and support.

There's a lot of boardgame companies, COMPANIES, that use Kickstarter as a "pre-order" system. Not just indie folks. So Kickstarter has evolved, or at least, companies are using it for things like this. Thank you for that look at the machine!!

Well, I had been on the fence for as while but after watching this I've decided to back this project. Thanks Joel

What I learned after getting a CR10...spend way more and get a production unit from a reputable brand. Creality products work, but if you think you are getting value based only on price...um no. Glass with clips? Still?

love how informative and fun you make your videos Joel

Of course your words matter Joel. Very keen on this new printer. Creality is going far. I like the clips. Looks like a promising machine.

I've backed it and looking forward to getting my machine! Great review, thanks!

Backed it, because of this video. Great features, good improvements over the Ender 3 that (I think) justifies the price difference. And with a 32-bit board (was a stretch goal that was met) it's just that much better.

I feel like Im stuck in a time warp when a 2020 product so new it is still in kickstarter is still coming out with microusb

As an owner of a Ender 3 Pro, which I bought with the glass bed as an extra option, this kinda feels like an Ender 3 with all the most popular upgrades from the community.. That said, I can't judge the hot end, sensors and electronics of course. On top of that, I can hardly imagine a Creality printer would disappoint. Informative video as usual, thanks Joel.

This is a preference thing but I'd take a glass bed over a flexible bed anyday.

Well, its a year later and i have two of them. Yes there are those machines. I love the cr6

Aren't glass beds usually considered an upgrade? I know a flexible pad has it's advantages, but wouldn't a glass bed as standard be a good thing?

Great video, Joel. I’m tempted. Well done on 400k subs. ✋

Also backed it with options. Great machine, no probs. Also got Prusa Mini. I prefer the Mini, but need a bigger build plate from time to time. Software design on the touchscreen is a bit clunky. These are my first two machines. I want to thank you and the rest of the KZfaqrs in the 3D printing community for your contribution to getting me down the learning curve.

Been waiting for this video. Kickstarting this and can't wait to get it.

Im confused, why does this printer need a kickstarter?, the company creality could easily build these printers without it? It's their brand after all :S

I have backed this after your first opening of it and video upload. thank you!

Chilling with an ender 3

Your channel is just so awesome. You should have more subscribers. Just love your content, how you take time to explain things.

Great review Joel, your reviews are always thorough and entertaining!

Please do a new review, or update this one regarding Creality's poor policies and management of their Kickstarter project. As you can see in comments, these products are not shipping, shipped late, shipped wrong, and when/if they do arrive many are broken, damaged or haven't been QC'ed before shipping. Creality needs to be held accountable for managing such poor products and process.

Thanks Joel! Great video as always... After all my hassles with printing PETG on my CR-10 Mini over the past week, this is very, very, veeeeeeeeee... *deep breath* ... eeeeeery tempting.

$319 is honestly pretty fair. Considering the upgrades in specs that they did can be done on a $200 printer that doesnt have them. It would still cost close or more than $320 total, while also risking damaging the printer itself. I don't think the auto bed leveller is as good as the bltouch, but its still going to do its job.

Many are upset that this isn't really a "Kick Starter" in terms of needing R&D Funds, and more of a Pre-Order, but I'm OK with it. I know way too many people that have been burned by KickStarters that sounded amazing, should have been great, and then NOPE nothing...never got the product. I backed this, only because I liked the idea, and I have a Ender3 that I have literally put over 6,000 hours onto since getting it...kilo after kilo of filament through it, and it JUST FREAKING WORKS. Many have no luck with their Ender3...I've had my ups and downs, but lately? ALL GOOD like for the past 2.5 years all good...I don't even have a BLTouch or the like on it...I haven't touched the level in 4 or 5 months...but it just works. :)

You’re the best! Merry Christmas.

I much prefer that kind of glass over flexible build plate because that gets scratched so easily. My glass plate still looks as good as new on my Ender 3.

I ordered mine the first day. Shipping seems high, but does look like a great machine. I agree that the kickstarter is more like an advertising ploy, but seems to have worked.

A year later, trying to get back into 3D printing, I bought this machine. So far, it's worked great with Creality filament, although it has been a real challenge to get prints to release. With my ancient previously opened filament, I've not been able to get it to stick prints. I've got two more ancient but never-removed-from-the packaging filaments to try. Wish me luck...

The trick to using the Creality glass build surface (on my Ender 3 Pro) for ABS is to coat it with ABS dissolved in acetone. It sticks very will. I turn off the fan and heat the bed to 100C, nozzle temp (+-)220C . I've used it quite a bit. I need an enclosure to print large ABS prints. I get layer separation at about 3/4" tall. I have two separate glass surfaces, one for PLA, cleaned with alcohol and the other for ABS with the coating above.

The flexible filament is filaflex from recreus, a Spanish company. The website was on the spool. They also make some less flexible ones that are easier to print on a bowden setup

I’m helping Creality with firmware stuff for the Ender 3 v2, but there’s likely to be some overlap with this model, so be sure to keep us posted about any issues you see. The probe is particularly great. You get the very best results when the probe is the nozzle.

To be fair its $29 more than a Prusa mini and is in many ways a superior machine with a much bigger build volume. soooooo Take that how you may :-)

Great video, if you were to purchase your first 3D printer what would be your choice between Anycubic mega x or Creality CR-6?

Great video, all my hugs from Dublin :)

No Joel.. it's YOU who is awesome !

As always Joel an awesome video! You always have me hooked, and your nerdy jokes I just can't help laughing at :-) top job buddy and thank you for your insight. I've also backed this so lets see what turns up eh :-)

I love the hug each other, but high five from a safe distance. Great video and can't wait to see some testing with different build plates to get those ABS prints to stick. Can't wait to get my CR-6 when ever it arrives.

thanks, mate. gave me a lot to think about. definitely keen if you follow through on what you hinted at right at the end of the video.

Actually it is still very much a kickstarter project. The simple answer is the same for a lot of Kickstarter projects. Ordering mass amounts of components for the associated volume based lower cost is dependent on volume of sales to justify and secure the orders of parts. Most Kickstarter projects are exactly this. People are probably confused because they have a recognized brand already.

Creality is smart in doing this. They get most (if not all) the money up front for a production run of a new printer that they were unsure if it had market share. The truth is...You can get an Ender 3 and upgrade it and it will be cheaper than this printer at retail and will get as good as or better prints. The CR-6 isn't earth shattering in what its bringing to the table. There's nothing "new" or exciting about it...As in no new tech being revealed. Linear rails and ball screws would have been a nice upgrade. But in the end, it basically an updated looking smaller CR-10. Don't get me wrong...The updates they made to it are nice and what a lot of people are already doing. But for the same price you can get better upgrades and make it the way you want it. For a brand new user to 3D printers...this is a very nice option. I still like it. But I don't think think bang the buck is there if you plan on doing mods. $429 is a lot of cash you can use for upgrades to an already popular and very good printer.

A pre-order system....maybe...except that with kickstarter you don't have any warranty, you receive a prototype.... and kickstarter is not a store. no refund, no warraty if you are not plenty satisfied. Anyway, a really good video as always, nice catapult !

Joel, thank you!! I backed it too and I'm already accumulating STLs to print.

I got mine in the mail today! So excited

3D Printing Nerd, Please address Creality's CR6 SE Kickstarter problems and the QC issues in one of your videos. They are not being honest with the Backers, and there are major QC problems- Serial defect fire hazards, and faulty parts causing reliably unreliable print operation. I backed this project with your review as reinforcement to do so. You will lose me as a subscriber if these problems are not addressed on your channel, via video. Thank you for your time.

Re: ABS I wonder if the open frame has anything to do with it? Otherwise yeah, PEI should do the trick, or maybe hairspray/ABS Gloop on bare glass. I have not tried ABS juice yet, it's on my bucket list. I'm assuming the filament was bone dry when you tried it.

Thanks for giving us a first look! I tried to purchase the Ender 3-Pro from Ali 3 times with no luck. My money is on hold and said they can't ship from China to US. Was reluctant but ended up backing the Kickstarter for CR-6. It looks like they're shipping from HK. First time on KS and never owned a printer. I thoroughly enjoy all your videos. Thank you!

Really been waiting for a 3D printer of this quality to buy for awhile now. But went to go back this, and can't believe the one credit card I have (Discover) will not work!! WTF am I to do!! Can't believe it!!

to be fair .. creality did state in one of there live streams that the primary and main reason was to use it as a pre-order platform and to see how popular the machine would be

I got this and it has no prefab on the following SD card. I love the design.

Backed and Ordered mine !! Thanks for the review of it :) I don’t mind it being pre order service to be honest

Got it for $265, can’t wait to get my hands on it.

i hear you on the flexible build plate but i have a (i think) similar bed on my cr10- v2 - i have come from a flashforge printer with a flexible build plate and while i loved that i found the usual problems of prints not sticking... with that i had to use a glue stick and a raft every time to get it to work. granted, as soon as the print was done i could remove the build plate, bend it and get the print off but...the build plate on the cr-10 which i think is the same one as this is fantastic, i use isopropyl to clean the bed and as long as i have levelled it propperly it sticks straight away and my first layer is beautiful. once the print is finished and the bed cools the print literally pops off so i dont need a flexible bed anyway. took me a while to get used to it but i love it now.

The flexible print was of a benchy that had spent some time at the bottom of a sea or an ocean...

ABS is my stock print, now you know someone that prints ABS!

Joel, very nicely done and a great selection of prints to show of. People who can exercise some patience (we live in a I-want-it-now society) will be rewarded with a very good printer (in its class) for a lower price.

How does this compare to the Creality 3D CR-10S Pro V2?

Complaining about not having a flexible build plate, shows how Joel is out of loop in regards to Ender-3 owners, when everyone and their cats bought the glass build plate specifically to remove the flexible one. (Mostly because beds are warped and the glass fixes that).

Just a quick note for everyone using Creality Slicer: It's not worth it. I didn't know that even existed, but I just tried a bit with my Ender 3 and the result is: Cura is better. top surfaces are cleaner, layers are more consistent (esp. visible with semi-transparent filaments) and details are better. On the Benchy, the lower front looked a bit more clean, but only very little, in general Cura was far superior, not even considering the advanced options. Of course, my Cura profile is more tuned, I made most of the sae adjustments to my Creality Slicer profile as well though. Maybe, there is more to be gained, but as an advanced user, Cura definitely is better in my opinion. I dont know how just the plain stock profiles compare and I only tested one filament (an experimental spool from Spektrum filaments, only exp. colors though) which was semi-transparent and therefore is a good benchmark. I don't want to hate on Creality Slicer, just wanted to throw my results out there.

Yeah totally agree with you Joel. I don't get why Creality went the Kickstarter route. I've back a couple of failed Kickstarters, and they really have a reputation of maybe you'll get something, maybe you won't. Is Creality really hurting for R&D investment that badly?

in 2020 it was on kick starter but not in 2022. on amazon 569 Can . I am analysing if i will buy this model seems interresting to me. would be my first 3D printer. after looking at so many models, why does Creality not add thos bars like on the cr 10 v 3 on all those models that place the filament roll on top? It would make the hole printer more rigid and stable no?

I am actually considering it even though I just got my Ender 3 Pro a few months ago

I know that flexi benchi may not be the prettiest, but damn default settings and old filament that's a hell of a good print from a Bowden!

Fun review. Now if only I needed another 3d printer.

I know there’s tons of Ender and CR10 channels out there (hopefully they continue with the CR6 as well) but I’m excited to see Joel jump in more on this and maybe potentially make some getting started or tips and tricks in his style when the CR6 ships!

Great point about the morphing of KS! I've been active with KS campaigns from almost day 1, and have been burned by a couple. Presenting almost complete products gives backers a heckuva lot more confidence that they will actually see a product in the end, so I have no problem with KS as a "pre-order" system. In fact, I kind of prefer it.

I picked one of these up used in a package deal with a Prusa Mk2. I'm pleasantly surprised it's actually a great little printer.

Looks like what I want as a second printer (have a CR10 now). But, I really don't want to fiddle with the whole Kickstarter silliness, just want to buy it. Great review!!!

Great review, thanks! I do hope they leave the build plate on during paused prints, that needs to happen. I actually wish (and I'm sure there will be a hack for it later) there was a way for an audible alarm to sound, as well. Even if they just have a normally-open connection get closed by the runout sensor so I can connect a buzzer or whatever.. I don't care too much about ABS not sticking, I've never printed with it, and between warping and fumes, I'm not really interested. The flexi was a pretty amazing fail, but I wasn't expecting a bowden to print flexi super great anyway. I actually have only used direct drive on my Anet A6, so I'm not well-versed on the bowden style. (How do you continue a run-out on bowden, anyway? Does new filament just force the other through the tube reliably and contiguously?) I think the kickstarter price is a good deal and it looks like it's going to be worth it.

I thought the same. This is for them to get a feel of the demand for this model category. So it was a pre-order system and some cash infusion. But it will be hard from the pre order system to find out how many people are going to order the unit once it hits full production. They will need to dump the ender 3 pro. They need to have a cheap sub $200 printer (Ender 3) and then this unit in the mid $300 I would say $350. FYI I pre ordered , I have an Ender 3 Pro, and slowing building farm so this new unit is cheap.

Great content in all your videos, I really like your style and your presentations! But I can't find any unboxing / review on Creality Ender-3 Pro. Is it something I have missed or do you plan to make some video on that 3d printer? :-)

So I know I and at least another person who after seeing your review decided to go ahead and back this printer. Seeing how creality has dropped the ball and all aspects of this " Kickstarter,"such as broken printers arriving, with no replies to help emails, the fact they are selling to people via chat and other means when they stated that kickstarter's would all receive their printers for such retail, but clearly have not stopped to that. Not telling backers who pledged even more money for add-ons that no matter what tier they pledged or time frame they had chosen would get pushed to the back of the line and completely ignored. As well as seeing the mean feature of the printers selling point being the auto level bed, but actually functioning properly, or units arriving that won't turn on or turn off mid prints, Etc. Has your opinion on this printer changed? I regret backing this printer, it was a lot of money and they splurge for myself and this being my first creality printer has certainly left a bad taste in my mouth for this company.

What is your opinion cr-6se compared to the Ender 3 Pro? Price performance, print quality, upgrades, etc. How do you see it? Would the Creality cr-6 se be a better investment than an Ender 3 Pro? I like your content. Keep it up👍🏻

As an added bonus you can also toast marshmallows on it!

Clearly, this printer was not designed by an engineer, but rather by a marketing department, let me explain: Dual ZZ motors, linked together by a sync belt... for what? Either it has 1 ZZ motor driving both lead screws via a synchro belt or have 2 zz motors driving each zz lead screws, separately, where the auto-leveling function keeps them in sync and leveled. There are many other severe flaws that Joel pointed out, like the dodgy firmware. But this one, in particular, triggered me the most. I hope the marketing department had these into consideration when coming up with a price. Other than that, good review, very thorough.

Thanks for your video. Do you think that the CR-6 SE is a more precise printer compared to Creality3D CR-5 Pro ?

Thanks Joel I did back it too. Reason: it seems as a neophyte to 3D printing this machine has a lot of new technology that when I have exhaustively studied all the 3D KZfaqr it incorporates a majority their wish lists

got mine for 299 haha so hyped for it!

3:23 woah a cameo from CNC Kitchen