does it have a webinterface like mainsail

Maybe I was pulling too hard on the TPU which was the cause of the damage, but yeah if I was going to be doing a lot of TPU printing, then I would either use gluestick, or test out some other surfaces. It will be interesting to see how much it will improve with updates in the next few months. The LiDAR and camera are good hardware, but with good software is what it really needs to be great

same!

Thought you can use whatever slicer you want with it

I've loved using this printer. I think you'll love it

Thanks! It has been a crazy amount of growth, but still having fun messing with printers!

Yes, better review, but all of you influencers are currently being brutally beaten by a 14 year old little girl. must be embarrassing!

It's really cool that Creality has continued to work on the design, and they made some really important changes to make a better K1 Max

That's good to hear! I heard they have been working on it since release, so any improvement is a good thing

I've really loved having one. It has been running non-stop since I unboxed it!

I might have to be the one to open it up. Haha

That’s exactly what I’m trying to decide on as well

Yes I'm just using the Creality Slicer. It makes it easier to send the prints to the printer so I've stuck with it

I'm having nothing but trouble on my regular K1 :(

@@ndenijs you probably got the one before the updates.

I'm impressed with how they have improved from the early K1 machines, and I hope they continue to make it right for people. The Bambu philosophy feels very restrictive and they want to be the only ones selling their proprietary parts

You can Hotspot from a phone to run firmware update, then run lan or SD card print after that.

Quality getting progressively worse is on you because you didn't do the maintenance they recommend. The printer tells you when to do it and links you to a video in their wiki to show you how, so there is no excuse. A clog is due to filament not the printer and that happens to all printers. They don't even force you to use the cloud, you can run in LAN mode. None of your complaints are anybodies fault but your own.

Thanks! It is an impressive printer

@@JJShankles It def seems that way, and I'm eager to pick it up. Just holding out a tad longer for the larger Bambu to go with the other i have, if not it doesn't happen soon, judging by your review ill be very pleased with the K1 Max. Thank you for another awesome video.

Bad boy 😂 … look at the garbage prints. The abs looks AWFUL.

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!

The phone apps are typical Chinese. There are many apps like that from companies from 🇨🇳. I think it's an easy to develop UI.

They both are incredible machines, and you'll probably be happy with either. Creality has really improved the design since the original K1 printers got sent out, and they are sending out upgraded extruders which is awesome to see. They also said they are going to release the open source code in September which will be something Bambu will never do. That will make community mods and upgrades way better on the Creality system.

Other than an occasional clog my X1C carbon has been flawless - I’ve got 4 creality printers - none of them match the quality in the x1c in print quality or speed - creality is going to have to prove to me they are competitive and have mended their ways - I just want a printer that works - not one I have to fuss with constantly.

@@Derek-je6vg From what I have seen/read, the P1S is equal to the X1C in terms of speed and print quality. Being a total noob, not sure if the jump up to an X1C would be worth it for me, but I'd definitely consider it. I told myself I would order one next week, but maybe I should wait to see some more comparisons between the K1 Max and X1C come out. I definitely don't mind paying a little more if I can get more reliability and consistency.

@@Derek-je6vg I'm not buying any hardware that REQUIRES a login.

I've had a few Creality printers over the years with varying success. I never thought I would be into multicolor printing based on previous experience doing filament swaps. The AMS has been a game changer for me since my painting skills are lacking. I've printed several multicolor signs and personalized coasters with minimal filament waste. It's really opened up the possibilities of what I can do.

Thanks!

You got the max for $554? I’m seeing it for $743 on Amazon

Glad you liked it!

I just downloaded the app to check, and the premium just includes some premium STL files, and their cloud slicer is faster maybe. In the normal app you can control the printer from anywhere, but the camera feed only works when your phone is on the same wifi as the printer. I turned off wifi on my phone and was still able to start prints, but the camera wouldn't load.

​@JJShankles coming from a CR10 smart pro when I was able to remotely control, power off and have a look from work was gold. Saved me a couple of times and it was peace of mind . Excluding that feature from the K1 kinda beats the purpose. Hope the will add it in the future or at least open-source this thing to add it via klipper. Thank you for your time testing the app appreciate it!

@@JJShankles, no problem, just create a VPN to home and connect your phone while away to check prints from the camera. I know not everyone will be savvy enough to do that, but it's an option.

I regret that I have but one thumbs up to give to this comment. It's insane that Chinese companies take open source software that people love, then rip it off and cripple it to make their own proprietary software. No user wants a manufacturer (or machine) specific crippled slicer. Just give us the profiles for the open source slicers we're already using. Stop stealing open source software and using it to try to force us into your proprietary ecosystem that you'll abandon as soon as you're on to your next printer.

Today I saw a message from creality that at the beginning of September there will be full access to the source code of K1 and K1 max

I tried this a while ago... its very hard to do since it takes so long for the stalk to cool enough when printed thick. But if anyone can do it, it's JJ

The AMS really feels like it wants to you only use Bambu filament. Some other spools are a little too wide or too tall, and it struggles with some cardboard spools. And these large printers are perfect for large spools that will last through several big prints.

The AMS is not just for color printing, you can use a different material for support for the ease of removal and quality of overhangs, also it can automatically move on to the next spool of the same material if the first one runs out, basically you get the equivalent of a 4kg spool if you load 4 1kg spools in, or 16kg if you're going crazy with 4 AMS

Where does it say Bambu Lab get full rights on each print you do? If you print from the SD card, it completely bypasses the cloud

That being said, I would like a higher quality camera, so an option to swap it would be awesome. I haven't used Creality Print much, I prefer prusaslicer and then importing the gcode via Creality Print, but I may make the switch as it's just so convenient

Yeah I wish companies would realize that a lot of people would love to upgrade to a high quality camera for amazing time lapses. I do think there is limiting factor of processing required, but a quality 1080p camera can take great timelapses

K1 max does not have a one piece frame, the top and bottom are one piece but the sides are not. It would be a very large casting to do all in one piece which would make it very costly to do.

The K1 is the same way where the top and bottom are two solid cast parts then 4 separate arm to hold it up.

​@@schrodingerscat1863 I am pretty sure one reviewer claimed it was a one piece casting, I will attempt to find out where I saw this claim, thanks for your reply!

@@AndrewAHayes No it's not I have seen both printers up close and both have solid castings for the top and bottom of the frame but these are joined together with vertical extrusions.

Have you updated the firmware in the settings? If it is on the latest firmware and still giving you issues like that then you may have a dud, and I would return it.

@@JJShankles yeah I updated it. Updating was a breeze, ill give them that

The camera is an easy Yes. The Lidar will depend on what price it will be

Keep an eye on the website, they will have a special deal soon for existing K1 users where they basically give some of these things away for nothing at all. I believe, the camera, spare extruder, hotend AND a roll of filament for something like 2 bucks?

@@JJShankles Thx.

I’m in the same boat

My guess is they will, they did with the Sonic Pad, took them a little while to do it but they finally did

A rep said on the Creality subreddit that they will at some point but right now they think it will overcomplicate customer support for the machines as many users will end up breaking off more than they can chew.

Personally I don't like printing multi-color things. I tested it out a few times, but it makes everything so slow and it's annoying how much filament needs to be purged when swapping filaments. Both options are amazing printers though, and anyone would be happy with either

IMO the P1S is a better more premium machine. I also had the K1 and its seriously lacking in design and build quality in comparison. No nozzle wiper/poop shoot/filament cutter. no automatic belt tensioner and the belt path on the K1 is so bad they needed to use 9mm pulleys for 6mm belts. Furthermore the gaps in the panels mean i never saw more than 38C internal temp and im not sure if its just the K1 but there is no air filter. Also dont get me started about software, bambu is like a prusa, the creality is just a creality bro. If you dont care about doing some minor upgrades and changing to klipper then the K1 is honestly not that bad. But I returned my K1 as soon as i saw the P1S in person.

Thanks for the replies! 2 different opinions. 😱 I respect both! Goes to show the difficulty of my decision. Good thing I have time to think and do more research. 😊

Take a look at the Sovol SV04 IDEX. Yes, it is "only" two colors, but it produces much less waste. It's 300^3 in build volume and often below 500 bucks. Hope that Sovol brings an updates IDEX printer to their SV 04 with the improvements and Klipper from their latest SV 07 model!

@@hassosigbjoernson5738 The SV04 Just has so many more manual processes involved I would prefer the multicolored waste over having to manually align nozzles and set Z offset and tune input shaping and all that nonsense. Once you experience never having to tune, it's really hard to go back.

It's this one here: www.printables.com/model/508290-super-flexi-gecko

Thanks JJ :) and thanks for the review! Makes me even more turn my anycubic chiron into a corexy and print a nice looking frame around it. I don't get it why creality makes so many mistakes right now. Lidar which is "ok", which is more an accessory then, closed firmware. Most importantly I don't get why they build a moving bed. Having the bed at the bottom constantly and a moving gantry reduces vibrations a lot. They should all follow a voron design imo.

If you use the SD card slot on the BL printers, it bypasses the cloud

@@blackoutblaze But it still sends pictures of the prints to the cloud unless you completely disable the cloud in which case you can't monitor your printer over the network. There is talk of a special version of the printer under development that doesn't need the cloud but no idea when or if that will be made available.

@@schrodingerscat1863 My point still remains, turn off cloud and print from sd card to completely avoid losing ip

It isn't VFA it is the polygon effect from belt driven kinematics. Not nearly as simple to "solve."

@@CapacitorCapacity It's possible to reduce it. At least on almost a 1000$ price point. I have seen 100000$ printer that's has it. So nobody is perfect. But they did nothing to combat it, as the vfa/belt marks is exactly the same as an cheapo ender3 series printer.

The one way to reduce is use quality motor

Fine, but it does a lot of vibrating and some sort of calibration that takes a really long time.

@@JJShankles Again, no, not really. The ¨P1P does _not_ have the ability to do ANY flow calibrations automatically (no Lidar). It will ONLY do an input shaping test as part of the "Printer Calibration procedure" which you must start manually from _within the LCD panel_ and not as part of a _print job_. The ONLY thing a P1P can "calibrate" as part of the print job is "Bed Leveling" : That part will indeed "Vibrate", as Bambu uses tactile sensors underneath the bed for bed leveling on both the X and P series. The "vibrating" occurs when doing a Bed Level test, where every couple of measurement points, the bed will be "shaken up and down" momentarially to reset said sensors to a baisc correct non-triggered value. This means that I believe you are constantly running BED LEVELING before each printjob, and yes that takes time. But it also is _not_ necessary in my experience. Unless you changed your bed surface inbetween prints, conducted maintenance on the printer inbetween jobs or the new print job uses a significantly different bed temperature, there's zero need to redo bed level test for each print (and the machine allows you to choose to avoid doing that for each print). When not activated, the P1P calibrates NOTHING prior to each print, and the only time spend is doing the unpacking of each send print job, which does _not_ cause any "vibrations" either.

Oh yeah I forgot about that. So it is 256x256x250 minus and 18x28mm square in the corner. Seems like a weird thing to print the wrong build volume on the front of every printer

@@JJShankles That's disappointing, so you lose build volume on all 3 axes Then the build volume of a P1S is next comparable to a K1.

They want you to buy their klipper Sonic Pad for that.

@@redkingrauri3769 lol what? to use klipper with klipper? you obviously have no idea

@@username370 Guess I don't. I didn't know the k1 used it

@@redkingrauri3769 yeah they have a locked limited version of klipper. You can jailbreak it though. But in September they are planning to release full open source version

Yeah it's just the only Bambu printer I have, so I can't fully compare with the X1C

X1C is also way more expensive while the P1P is similarly priced

@@nathanthecollector429 Yes, the price difference in dollars is even more when you add the VAT here in the EU.

How do you skip calibration? I started the timer when I clicked send to the printer on the slicer, so I am including the super slow upload to cloud and download from cloud.

@@JJShankles when you uploading to the printer there’s a windows that pops up to uncheck AMS and flow calibration if you don’t want to use AMS or calibrate again, will just use previous one

This will probably end up high on that list

I don't really use the apps anyways, but what do you use the bambu app for? It just feels like I can't do much on it, so I never really open it up.

For two colors an IDEX system is way better due to much less waste! Also the AMS is a very pricy option, especially since many mod this thing because of the spool limitations (So you initially buy parts with that AMS that many don't use at the end). So it's not everything so shiny! But at least it is on the market! Other than a multi-toolhead option like the Prusa XL which is still not available (and even more expensive). Hope that Creality, Sovol and others do think about an alternative to that AMS, especially Sovol since they often respect and support the open source community.

@@JJShankles Check on prints when not by my computer and stop it if I need to or change speeds/airflow on the fly on occasion. Thats basically all I want it to do and it does the job.

@@JJShanklesI use the app mostly to check on it when I am away and I download the timelapses through there. I think the app is quite nice. I have a X1C but I could see people using it on their p1p if they don't like the screen. But its all personal preference!

@@hassosigbjoernson5738 I would say the main reason I think its so good is because the integration and the filament cutter. For this type of system where it has just one nozzle, being able to cut the tip is a really helpful thing. I had a mmu2s and I could never get a good print out of it because it would just keep failing because of the tips. Once you get the spools down, like I just use sunlu filament, it works like a charm. I've only had one failed print on the Bambu because of the poop chute clogging up, while I've had tons of failures with the mmu. I would say if you want to print lots of colors this is the best option. if you only print like 2 colors or print like pva or something a idex is great! And if you want to print with both multi material and color it looks like the prusa xl will be the option. But definitely ams is a great multicolor option.

qidi max 3 is 325 with open klipper and heated chamber same speed as k1 max

Dang. I was envious, because I have a modded, $650 Ender S1 and am so tired of tuning it and the nozzle still scrapes the model.

@@III-zy5jf K1 wouldn't be my advice man. GL

@@ndenijs Did you fix it? And when you buy it? Like when it was released or recently in the last Month or so?

Bambu Lab also violates open source licensing, and they make it very difficult to print if you opt not to send your files to their Chinese server and sign away all your intellectual property rights to them - either fiddle with a tiny micro SD card inserted into the top of the display or print through the LAN but the dynamic IP address keeps changing and must be reentered frequently. The K1 series have a USB-A port on the front panel for a standard thumb drive and the static IP address is only entered once. Still, the Creality should have standard full featured Klipper and Fluidd.

@@Liberty4Ever This is simply incorrect. They are 100% compliant with the Prusa Slicer license, and we've no reason to believe they arent with their closed source firmware. As for intellectual rights, I have no idea why people keep saying this. Like, where is this conspiracy coming from? I feel like people just keep making things up about Bambulab and it does them a great disservice given they are being the change in China that people have been wanting to see. They bring innovation and honor licenses and people hate them for it. Like I totally get not liking the cloud thing, but the other accusations are wild.