I'm pretty much engaged with this G1 TJ universe, which the following makes up its timeline. - Original G1 American cartoon - G2 Toy bios - Machine Wars (TJ Omega story) - Beast Wars - Beast Machines (TJ's rewrite) I wonder if there will be a Transtech story in this timeline in the future, after all Prime and Megatron are still out there at space, and Starcream's spark probably survived his encounter with Waspinator, who knows.

A couple changes I would have made. 1. Because Beast Wars essentially used all new characters with the same names, except for Ravage and Starscream, and this is suppose to be a way to bridge the gap, I would have made the Machine Wars cast more of a blend of established G1 characters and brand new characters just reusing their names. This also makes it so you don't need to explain how dead characters are suddenly back, they're not, that's a different Prowl. You also don't need to explain away how Thundercracker and Skywarp are back because they can also just be brand new characters. Could also explain in universe why names started being reused. I mean I know we reuse names IRL all the time but I've never gotten the impression that Optimus is just a really popular name like Christopher is for humans. 2. Throw in Machine Wars Obsidian and Strika too... I know they didn't really come out till later but Beast Machines introduced them as veterans of the great war and BotCon included them in the Machine Wars set because of that retcon to make pre-Vehicon versions of them, so I feel like they should be in that fiction some where.

Make a similar vídeo but with the legacy line or the canceled transtech series

This definitely needs to be aknowledged by Hasbro for a future animated serie. Great Video.

Very good back story, Gen 2 needed to be expanded upon.

This reminds me of a Machine Wars story I had written before. Beginning is remarkably similar (Starscream takes Skyquake's body and makes a deal with the Quintessons to improve it), but otherwise, features a lot of deviations. Skywarp and Thundercracker are actually Quintesson creations that turn traitor to both the Quints and the Cons because they found both of their decisions to lack proper reasoning, G2 Smokescreen is actually G1 Smokescreen reformatted as a con, etc etc

I've made figures to bridge the Machine Wars-Beast Wars era

Maybe Optimus's Maximal body is his laser design.

I like the idea funpub had with there all weird clones, but Instead of being servants of Gee axe us, instead I would like to think the machine warriors have been "reborn" by an outside alien force (vok) to reenact the great war on a strange Distorted copy of Cybertron. Considering beast machines have given up the ghost aboutbit being connected to the marvel comics, all the clones have the nenories of there g1 cartoon forefathers, and vaguely remembered the last things they did the last time, i.e. prowl would remember being boarding in the shuttle, Optimus would remembered the celebration of the golden age of Cybertron, starscream would remember being set a drift in space, i.e. Why this is happening would be would be the mystery of the series. Optimus tries to find the truth of what's truly occurring but Starscream is All too happy to be the all powerful leader of the decepticons and wants to take the aliens power for himself.

I love your idea for machine wars

In spite of the Earth alt modes, I always pictured Machine Wars as a story that took place on Cybertron. Nice work, sir.

Kinda interested in knowing what happened to the season 3 cast or maybe a jp continuity version of this

Here’s what my take would be like: Starscream supercharges himself with the Underbase’s energies and steals the Creation Matrix from Optimus’s chest, gaining the power to manipulate the bodies of himself and others. He upgrades himself, Thundercracker, Skywarp, and Stalker into new forms (and downgrades Megatron) and makes the latter trio his generals. Also, they can corrupt others into mini-mes. It’s basically a zombie apocalypse. A badly damaged Optimus is escorted to his personal ship (the Orion) by Prowl, Mirage, Hubcap, Hoist and Sandstorm and they escape to the arid desert world of Combatron. They all adopt new forms (TFCC Toxitron in MW Optimus colors, CW Mirage in MW Mirage and Prowl colors, CW First Aid in MW Hoist and Hubcap colors, and Selects Rotorstorm in MW Sandstorm colors) and meet up with Combatron’s native bots- the Turbomasters. In addition, Soundwave is utterly disgusted by what Starscream has done to Megatron and narrowly escapes being corrupted into a Stalker-type drone thanks to his telepathy blocking the virus from fully controlling him… prompting him to join Optimus and his crew. The remainder of the story is one I haven’t figured out, so have some of my ideas. -Megaplex is an amnesiac Megatron who sided with the Autobots for a time and ends up sticking with them even after getting his memories back -Optimus, Prowl, Mirage, Hoist and Hubcap gain the ability to combine into Peacemaker -Starscream combines Straxus and Shockwave’s sparks to create the terrifying behemoth known as Overlord (their sparks are the “Energon figures” that came with Euro G1 Overlord) -The G2 GoBots get involved (they’re a bunch of Autobot refugees who downsized to survive Energon radiation on the planet Micro)

I wanna see your ideas for the Powerdashers. They're in dire need of proper characterization.

Brilliant story. Just one question: does this mean the message Beast Wars Megatron played for Ravage in The Agenda was fake? Or was that something Megatron did in the past that he couldn't fix in time?

TJ you have real talent in developing stories and also presenting them in an engaging way This one was so fun!

19:35 Ask Vector Prime also expanded on his story after repairing Optimus & the other wounded Autobots.

I all ways was thinking this was to be a Beast Wars spin off cartoon series. I wish it had a cartoon series.

There was also a short Machine Wars storyline in the fan club comics! The various Machine Wars versions of characters were clones, though, so it’s sorta cheating.

Amazing! You have created a masterpiece, my friend. Someone should make a comic adaptation of this story.

Nice story there. Though pretty sure that Jhinaxus sat out this as he was used in the Botcon Gen 1 cartoonverse. There is one thing I find weird is Fortress Maximus didn't have any involvement at all.

12:02 So in other words, to quote another Mainframe property, "Prepare yourselves....for the hunt!"

How could Starscream be a ghost and possess Skyquake's body if he got his body back in Season 3 of G1? Does he lose his body again in this canon before those events? I like how you handle the inclusion of Skywarp, Thundercracker, and Megatron though, that's pretty well thought-out. That Prowl idea was really creative, good workaround that isn't just another revival. I really like the Thundercracker plot twist, lines up pretty well with his attitude towards the Decepticons. Good twist with Megaplex, I felt like Megatron was a little off earlier. Nice callback to the Quintessons being friendly with Optimus post-Hate Plague. The reason for Megatron letting up on the war is very convincing and the changes to him and the Seekers are a good leadup to the Maximals and Predacons being more energy-efficient. The tie-ins to Beast Wars and the terms for the peace are also logical and flow naturally from the plot. Seeing that stuff with the Tri-Predicus council again makes me really wish that Beast Machines wasn't the sequel we got, because it could have been cool seeing their plans go to fruition. This is a pretty solid plot to make for this toyline and I hope we get something like this in the future. I noticed Machine Wars has been completely absent from Legacy, so I wonder if they could do a modern toyline for it after Legacy. We have plenty of figures to do just about every character too. Spinister: Sandstorm Doubledealer: Soundwave Motormaster: Optimus Prime Skyquake/Dreadwing: Starscream Earthrise Seekers: Decepticon Jets Mirage: Mirage and Prowl Tow-Line: Hubcap and Hoist

Back when I was about 5, I literally thought Machine Wars Starscream was THE original design for Megatron. It wouldn't be until I turned 11 and watched the 86 Transformers movie that I'd find out that Megatron's original design was a gun robot instead.

13:45/13:46 And I assume that means, no deliberate mention of the Prowl II scenario regarding the Binaltech & Controverse storylines.

Because of this video, I literally went and bought a Machine Wars Starscream.

Nice story TJ really enjoyed it!

And they all live happily... Nightbird apocalypse on Earth.

This was a good story, TJ.

Tbf, the Botcon comic tie try to tie Machine Wars into the Beast era by including Strika and Obsidian.

More TJ story? 🍿

I like this idea, especially the Autobots still being on friendly terms with that one Quintesson and him being responsible for the great upgrade to the Maximals. I've spent a bit of time working out my own ideas for a Machine Wars timeline, but I used a few ideas from the Botcon take on the story as my starting point. I ought to find a way to share it one of these days as I feel it is one of my better theories.

Patreon had a major glitch in August. I had to reup for a lot of channels. It's still not sorted out to my satisfaction. I bet me and the "new" guy used the same credit card (Amazon VISA).

does euro G1 fit into this because Thundercracker has an action master toy so i don't know how that would fit in.

This was so good!

was just thinking about Machine Wars today. Maybe we'll get some of these characters in legacy.

I subscribed to this channel specifically so I can keep getting story videos like this, keep'em coming!

Lots of cool ideas here! And I’m happy I noticed the foreshadowing!

Would like to hear more of these they are fun. In Beast Wars it's tied to an unspecified G1 continuity, not the cartoon outright

I dig it! Has a lot of potential.

I have to say I enjoyed that more than the Botcon story for Machine Wars.

In Machine Wars: Termination, it was about Jhiaxus making clones of everyone.

It seems that if you are going to keep this in cartoon continuity you kinda have to ignore the restoration of Cybertron at the end of Rebirth.

34:46/34:47 With someone like me, I would find a way to make sure it doesn't conflict too much with any of the other established fiction (primarily the BotCon 2013 comic), even if it means lots of retconning.

2:44/2:49/2:58 Doesn't a good chunk of Takara & Fun Pub fiction fill in parts of that aforementioned 3 century gap?

That was hell of a tale!!

Okay TJ, I could use a TJ Storytime explaining the ever loving plothole gimmicks of the Unicron Trilogy changing from series to series. It still boggles my mind about how all this can ba cannon (yes I know it's a cartoon about toys) but I just don't get it! 😵‍💫

This might be the best one yet

Please write a story of how galavtron become Megatron again. Nice idea why it's called Machine Wars.

35:15/35:16 How would something like this work for the Marvel comic storyline, post G2?

I thought the story of Machine Wars was that Doctor Arkeville created (or rebuilt) the Transformers?

This was an awesome story bro, you're doing Primus' work Also MW Starscream looks awesome

This was well done. I would watch the heck out of this show (miniseries? Movie?)

2:13/2:14 Unless you've read any of the Ask Vector Prime posts.

This was great! I like how the upgrades come to be

1:46/1:48 Would some of your ideas work for either Earthspark or Skybound's: Energon Universe?

Well that the cannon for me now😅😅

Thank you for your story time

So much better than any of Bay's drivel. Which... I guess isn't much of a compliment, sorry. Good fiction, I mean!

17:36 Or even a clone you might say?

Yo I got it What if Transformers Classic had a storyline????

While your story is good, I still think there is a missing link that can join the whole thing with beast wars, the whole integration of technorganic tech deserves a more significant origin. Which reminds me of the movie "The Thing", that a while ago inspired me to imagine precisely that, the origin of the organic element to the transformers, in the shape of a crashed scientific vessel in which the discovery of transmutated organic matter that could be coupled with the frame of a maximized cybertronian could further improve efficency via the convertion of biomass into energy, aka: eating. Of course the crashed ship landed in Antartica, where humans found within it the raw prototype of the organic component which by default is set to survival mode, leading to the events of "The Thing"... So in a way, every maximal and predacon will end up being integrated with a tamed "Thing" simbionte in their bodies, which made them into beings to be feared, where "goodness" and "morals" have many more shades of gray than ever before. That can be a start point for a link between fictions.

Optimus Prime presented by Skittles

like # 300! 😊👍

Uh, you've got a pretty interesting head-cannon going there, but you REALLY need to flesh out your ideas a little more before you present them as a "story." For one thing, you don't seem to be able to decide whether you're using the OG cartoon or toyline storyline as your starting point. Sure, you can combine more than one continuity, Lord knows that's what I do with Marvel, but that's the sort of thing you need to make explicit up front. Might also take a closer look at characterization.

I've been dreaming up a continuation to Beast Machines where Primal finds out the Oracle was a plant by Primacron to weaken Cybertron. Vector Sigma revives a selection of Autobots and Deceptions, Peds and Maximals, to restore Cybertron.

Here's some irony. Marvel Comics depicted the Quintessons as servants of Unicron. Also, Starscream should never be above Megatron. Shockwave should also never be above Megatron.

very nice story!