Dagda ?

Lucifer / prometheus also Roman deity " Genius "cognate with Persian word " Jaan .= Psyche "

Possibly other groups of gods that are considered "older" or "other" and at war with a newer pantheon. Examples are the Asuras of the Vedic religion or the Titans and primordial gods of the Greek religion. As for specific deities, maybe someone very ancient like Inanna/Ishtar/Astarte/Aphrodite, since her origins are complex and possibly a merging of many different sources. It's possible that the Greek goddess Eos - a version of the PIE dawn goddess - was later combined with the Inanna Semitic import cult that had already formed Aphrodite. The latter's influence on the probably originally separate Venus is also interesting.

@@majidbineshgar7156 good ideas! Thank you

@@SpaceMonkey15 funnily enough I am in the process of making videos on some of these :) Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.

Great question, and there are a few different hypothesis on this. Certainly one I know by Lahiri in his book Vedic Vrtra talks about the flooding of the rivers, and they destruction they brought) as being a metaphor for a chaotic serpent, and because this flooding was accompanied by storms, it was often considered a conflict between a Storm God and a serpent.

I know the aboriginal Australians have a rainbow serpent myth which is usually associated with land forms and such(my local walgurugaba believe it formed a river and some islands), I suspect that it is partly related to the look of snake tracks in sand (valleys with mountains on the side) and so people have assumed that snakes made the river, I think similar myths could of also been the source for the indo European snake deity beliefs, though having an evil nature due to the flooding effects on the land.

Or there are many water snakes out there, and all snakes are good swimmers, that can be a reason the Snakes/Serpents are associated with river and water, may be!

The snake was a symbol of the messenger of the mother goddess. The snake goes into the earth, it renews itself by shedding it skin. The snake is the ancient symbol for wisdom.

European gods????? 😭😭😭😭 God's of evil? You all are the last race to come around talking about European gods. Europeans don't have ancestors, ya'll have forefathers. This is completely an oxymoron to say call one a European God. You talk about taking and taking and even taking PEOPLE. There is NO SUCH THING as an European God. You can't be half Neanderthal and be a God. How about you all stop trying to take from our African culture which is the culture that BIRTHED all human civilization on earth, THATS GOD'S. Stop this because this is totally an oxymoron

Yes, well spotted, I have placed a correction in the descriptive text. Thank you.

We Serbs are Pelasgi origin, Tautons...We are the first station after last fluded Island of Atlantis - Poseidonis.That is Vinca civilisation, older than Gobekli Tepe. From that spot survivers migrated to the North,East... We are Vendi (Venirs, Fenicians, Argonauts, Sarmatian, Sabatians...).Old Mikeian language (old Minoy, Kritian lantuage) we can read and understand easily.Because in that area we lived as Slawish tribes in majority (Milinzi,Jezerci) and Jelini were in minority. There were no Greek, but Slavish theritories.But, a therm SLAW becomes only thousand years ago for Serbs...

@@ah-ha-VAH-CReATER This is a fresh take on the "we wuz" meme.

@@elverkongen2515 welcome to the balkans

@@ah-ha-VAH-CReATER do you have any local legends and myths about where exactly Atlantis existed? A theory I've recently come accross is that it's the Eye of the Sahara, but even this is largely based on Plato's retelling, so might not be accurate

That was a very early name for Zeus, he absorbed the Greek Storm God

@@Crecganford So awesome seeing seemingly distant cultures being connected like this.

Ukrainians called this entity "Perun". I believe he was the chief deity in the pantheon of pre-Christian slavic tribes that evolved in to Ukrainians. My grandparents came from Ukraine and I believe my grandmother and (for sure) several of my aunts & uncles were scared stiff of thunderstorms. Which only makes sense, as if you lived on the open steppes, thunderstorms were probably the most scary natural phenomenon you would encounter. Unfortunately for my family, they settled first in Alberta, Canada (flat prairie) and then ended up in southern Ontario - thunderstorm capital of Canada... Not good places for anyone scared of thunder!

@@jamesyaworsky8996 Same in Serbia its name for Slavic god of storm.

And in Finnish you have Perkele. Same same but different.

Well I hope you watch my next video, released Saturday, which will talk about them… let me know what you think of it :)

@@Crecganford I'm looking forwards to it!

@@Crecganford It was intriguing, I loved it. Thanks for all the videos! They’ve proven quite useful for answering my questions about history.

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The Jotun family and the Titan family has a close enough similarity that it's safe to speculate that they may have originated from the same family. If this is the case, then Chaos and Ymir may be the same, Gaia and Jorth are the same, Nott is similar to Nyx, Aegir might be either Oceanus or Poseidon, and there's also the Nine Mothers of Heimdall, possibly being the same as the nine Muses.

Then you'll want to watch my next video on Saturday... as it talks about the "giants" and titans...

Gaia was a Protogenoi, not a Titan, although Rhea, consort of Cronus, was a Titan with some overlap in themes.

Much of the prehistoric Greek gods stories weren't added on until later on anyways. So it's not like they worshipped the titans before the gods.

I don’t know enough to really take a position, but I have been struck by the amount of power that was invested in Demeter plus how strong her cult was; I could be persuaded

Some Greek myths were allegories about religious conflicts (the story of Apollo slaying Python is believed to be such a story), but that doesn't mean they all are.

Thank you for watching, I was a late comer to the classics I concentrated on Anglo-Saxon and Old Norse literature, but I am slowly working through them. A fascinating subject. Thank you for your comment to.

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@@dreamsofadaffodil650 he assumes everybody is always trolling him

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Indeed. Glory to nature, glory to God.

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That’s interesting, and I will make a video about Eden one day as there is much mythology within it. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment

Is this a well known theory - or something you heard recently?

That is a really intriguing idea, I'd be interested in how the surrounding context of the early Hashem (pre-judaism proper, the earlier version who was a servant of El) serving as a gardener would play out. The context of the eden story is wrapped in a lot of earlier mythology!

@@macdougdoug It was a theory I first heard about 3 or 4 years ago. I'm sorry I can't remember exactly who was talking about it, but it was during a presentation about biblical archeology that I first heard the theory advanced. I thought it was a very intriguing way to explain early mankind's history of migrations and settlements.

Watched the same documentary several years ago, and was positively amazed, since the idea made perfect sense. Anyway, i think you are talking about the following documentary: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hNllhbWZu8Wuf30.html

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That barley water has a fair amount written about it, as it is mentioned in one of the Orphic Hymns, and some suggest it is a source for hallucination which helps keep hunger at bay. I will do a video about this one day. Thank you for watching and your comments, they are appreciated.

@@Crecganford I’m currently reading a book about this topic exactly. It is called the Immortality Key.

@@jessegrove5456 To die before you die... I really enjoyed that book and there are a few others like this. I do have a video on the Mead of Poetry which touches the subject too; kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o9V-iq6oqqipZGg.html

I know the crone is connected to Hecate nowadays, but there are ancient depictions of Kore, Hecate, and Demeter where all 3 are young women. At times, Hecate was replaced with Artemis. I prefer to view the goddesses through archetypal psychology. I see myself as a modern-day Persephone/Hestia, but maybe that is just Hecate.

@@jessegrove5456 I’ll check that out when I get a chance, thanks for the clue 😊

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Wow, then I have made videos about these older myths, and what they mean. Perhaps even listening to my video reading the Havamal, wise words from 1,500 years ago may also interest you. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.

Thank you for taking the time to comment and watching the video. Yes, a combination of bad video editing and being too high level on my part. I will correct this is a future video to explain the Minoans, but there was EFF DNA in Minoans, and so they were influenced in some degree by the Neolithic Farmers.

@@Crecganford They most definitely were since they were direct descendants of the EEF. A video on the Minoans sounds like a great idea. It is curious that Mycenaean society, being fundamentally an indo-European society, retained many more aspects of pre-Greek religion than PIE religion while also introducing certain new deities and customs. Perhaps the most important deities in pre-Greek religion, even more so than Demeter (or Potnia as she was called), were Eileithyia and Poseidon/Enesidaon

it makes all a lot more sense once we posit multiple Indo-European migrations from the steppe in the span of millennia.

The Mycenaeans also took many aspects of the Minoan culture into their own. The art, gods, culture, clothing. My guess is after the minoan civilization fell the minoan people joined the Mycenaeans.

The proto-greeks, mycenaens, and minoans shared most of the same dna as all recent studies have shown.

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That's an interesting thought.

I could see many ways that your idea could be supported. For example, humans propagate in an atypical manner that allows for large number of progeny per mother despite the high state of dependency and long time to mature of human infants. Evolutionary biology explains this unusual fecundity in which humans continue to bear children while still raising others, by the presence of grandparents. The longer human lifespan allows non fertile individuals the opportunity to participate in child rearing and that labor is a force multiplier for the reproductive individuals that lets them stay busy with the survival of the species. Translating how that sociobiology would manifest in a culture it's not difficult to envision a house of elders being not only a childcare center but also a repository of wisdom. Thank you for the intriguing idea.

Yes, and no more. Like your entire video, @@Crecganford

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Haha, yes, I have about 120 videos in my todo list! Thank you for watching, and for commenting, it means a lot.

in the Greek mythology, it seems like the titans represent more naturalistic qualities but the Olympians represent more human ideals. I wonder if it's similar in other traditions.

@@stein1919 as a Norse pagan(ik I'm too lazy to change my name) it kinda is, we have primordial titan like beings that represents more primal forces/environments that then created and were displaced by one or more races (Asir, Vanir, and possibly jotunn thou that's debated) of more human like deities.

@@bigJthegamer awesome, thanks.

Throughout time the gods of the conquered become the demons of the conquerors.

The first form of the Bible was written in 325BC, 80 years before and Antikythera mechanism, and was called the Vaticanus Graecus, Son of the Devine Serpent, a reference to Fomalhaut, which is shaped like the all seeing eye, in Aquarius, the sign associated with John the Baptist, who was a Setian, the root word of Satan. Just as israel is the Phoenician word for Saturn, or El, Fruit of Isis and Ra. In the Second Century AD Astrologer Vettori Valentinus used the Vaticanus Graecus to construct a lunar zodiac of 13 months, this correlates to the 18.6/ 19 year Metonic Calendar, found in the earliest known ancient temples, the Bible, Antikythera mechanism, New Grange and the Bru na Boinne, the Chaldeans, Egyptians, Assyrians, Celts, Phoenicians, and inscribed into the Golden Enoch Horns of the Magi, the Eunuch Druid Priests of Cybel, or Kythera, the "Great Mother", (who also has 216 names) in Germany and France. A Druid took 19 years to train, and the Phoenix was associated with 19 flames. TLDR; the ancient metric system of time used by the builders of the Megalithic sites all over the world directly correlates to the Astrological Zodiac and allows for the surveying of the entire globe. It's worth noting our current system has 8,640 seconds in a day, just as the sun is 864,000 miles wide. Enoch also wrote 36,525 scrolls, which is 365.25 times 100, the Egyptian number of perfection, which allowed them to calculate things to the second decimal place. The Great Pyramid is a Calendar, based on the Metonic Cycle and the Zodiac, hence the association of Osiris with Orion, and Pleiades Isis, atop the back of Taurus, just as the Phoenician Princess Europa, who rode the Bull. The entire Mediterranean region was also mapped out according to key constellations, marked by these Megalithic structures, which themselves encode these numbers The Byblos Baal, or Book of Baal is the Phoenician Almanac, a coded book of Astrological cycles used by the Priest Class of Egypt; the Phoenicians, to navigate the oceans. Phoenicians, Celts, Assyrians, Chaldeans, Egyptians and Jews all celebrated their New Year in September, the 7th month, the Sunsign of Ophiuchus, the Serpent Bearer, associated with the healing Gods, and marked by the first New Moon in the 7th month after the start of the Zodiac in Easter, when Ophiuchus is the East Star. In September the East star is Orion, aka Osiris, aka Set, Lord of the Dead. Hence the Aleph, and the Zayim, Alpha and Omega. It's also the Birthday of Jesus, and when he said he would return, at the end of the Age. It's reversed to keep the code secret, and written in metaphor so no one could know what was contained therein. It's an Enigma Code, literally. The Metonic cycle, in chronology, is a period of 19 years in which there are 235 lunations, or synodic months, after which the Moon's phases recur on the same days of the solar year, or year of the seasons. The cycle was discovered by Meton (fl. 432 bc), an Athenian astronomer. The Pyramid is also 230 metres square, or 235 Megalithic Yards. En-men-dur-ana (also Emmeduranki) of Sippar was an ancient Sumerian king, whose name appears in the Sumerian King List as the seventh pre-dynastic king of Sumer. He was said to have reigned for 43,200 years His name means "chief of the powers of Dur-an-ki", while "Dur-an-ki" in turn means "the meeting-place of heaven and earth" (literally "bond of above and below") Arc of the Covenant There are also 86,400 seconds in a 24 hr day. 24 minutes is 1440 seconds, times 100 gives us 144,000 A list of ten kings was composed in Greece c. 280 BC by the Babylonian priest Berossos, and their reign totals 432,000 years. In the Icelandic Poetic Edda it is said that there are 540 doors in Odin's heavenly hall of warriors Five hundred doors and forty there are I ween in Valhalls walls; Eight hundred fighters through each door fare Where to war the Wolf they go. The war with the Wolf was the recurrent battle of the gods and anti-gods at the end of each cosmic round. Here we have 540 x 800 = 432,000. In the Mahabharata and Puranic texts, the cosmic cycle of four world ages numbers 12,000 divine years, one year corresponding to 360 human years for a total of 12,000 x 360 = 4,320,000 human years. This is broken down into yugas as follows: Kali = 432,000 years or 1200 x 360 Dwarpa = 864,000 years or 1200 x 360 x 2 Treta = 1,296,000 years or 1200 x 360 x 3 Satya = 1,728,000 years or 1200 x 360 x 4 The number 432,000 has been found in Europe (1100 AD), India( very ancient, and 400 BC), Mesopotamia (c 300 BC)in reference to a cosmic eon. At the moment of the Spring equinox (March 21) the heavens are never quite in the same position they were the year before, since there is an annual lag of 50 seconds which in the course of 72 years amounts to 1 degree (50" x 72 = 3600" = 60' = 1 degree) and in 2160 years amounts to 30 degrees or one sign of the zodiac. For instance, today the sun stands in Aquarius at the Spring equinox, in 1976 the sun stood in Pisces and in the time of Christ it was in Aries. This slippage is known as the precession of the equinox. Copernicus in 1526 AD calculated this same figure. We note also that the lag is 50 seconds/year or 1 degree in 72 years, 30 degrees in 2160 years, 360 degrees in 25,920 years or one complete cycle of the zodiac. But 25,920 divided by 60 gives 432. The ancient Sumerian calendar had five-day weeks or 72 x 5 = 360 days per year. But 360 x 72 = 25,920. The integer 1200 represents the sum of the years in India for a cosmic cycle. Now 1200 x 201 = 241,200 1200 x 380 = 456,000 1200 x 360 = 432,000 These numbers correspond to the Sumerian tablet list of ten kings who ruled for a total of 456,00 years, a second tablet which lists only eight of these kings with a total of 241,200 years, and Berossos' list. The Book of Genesis lists ten patriarchs from Adam to Noah and the Flood totalling 1656 years. In the Jewish calendar one year is 365 days. In 23 years plus 5 leap year days we have 8400 days or 1200 seven-day weeks. If we multiply 1200 x 72 we get 86,400 or the number of Jewish seven-day weeks in 1656 (23 x 72) years. Since the Babylonian calendar year was composed of 72 five-day weeks, then in 432,000 days there are 86,400 Babylonian five-day weeks. Then in 432,000 days there are 86,400 Babylonian five-day weeks (432,000/5). Thus the Bible concurs with the other lists as well. The earth's axis wobble that causes the precession of the equinoxes is given as 25,920 years. Divided by the ancient number called "soss," 60, which was used in calculations, results in 432. The Greek Ages also bear a close correspondence to the four Yugas of the Hindus: Krita-Yuga, Treta-Yuga, Dvapara-Yuga, and Kali-Yuga. Their method of calculation is described by Ullamudeian as follows: "In each of the 12 signs there are 1800 minutes; multiply this number by 12 you have 21600; e.g. 1800 X 12=21600. Multiply this 21600 by 80 and it will give 1,728,000, which is the duration of the first age, called Krita-Yuga." If the same number be multiplied by 60, it will give 1,296,000, the years of the second age, Treta-Yuga. The same number multiplied by 40 gives 864,000, the length of the third age, Dvapara-Yuga. The same multiplied by 20 gives 432,000, the fourth age, Kali-Yuga." (It will be noted that these multipliers decrease in inverse ratio to the Pythagorean tetractys: 1, 2, 3, and 4.) The Essenes studied the Mysteries of Pythagoras. His name means Heart (Bel) of the Serpent. The cycle of the Phoenix encodes the astrological calendar by which they removed 3 days every 630 years. This was expressed in a Pythagorean Triangle of Dimensions 216 by 630 by 666. 6 x 6 x 6 is 216, there are 2160 years in an astrological age, and the Moon is 2160 miles in diameter. The solar metonic calendar using 60 6 day weeks produces 1 extra day every 216 years. There are also 216 Megalithic seconds in a day, and 216 letters in the name of God

Thank you, it is not intentional but I'm pleased it helps you listen.

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That was the most interesting book! I need to get another copy.

I like the idea.

I loved that book

Yes the worship of ancestors was common in Indo-European cultures before the Greeks or the Romans.

@@nastasedr How do you know that? Different people, different regions, different beliefs and Gods!

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"the old gods fill in the gaps of the new faith" - that is a great sentence.

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Thank you so much for your kind words.

I do briefly touch on her in one of my videos about dogs, and will do more in time. Thank you for your kind words.

But it could also be the tsunami following the Santorini vulcano outbreak, reached as far as Israel.

There's a flood myth in Mesoamerican religions (Aztec religion, etc) as well

Search on Battle of 10 King's in India

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So... Like the sacrifice virgins thing, very opposite.

I don't know. But most of the dieties of the original native American pantheon seem to be animals, mostly real ones that they would have seen in real life. It is likly that this was once true all over the place.

@@milascave2 It's like the modern attitude that people had myths to explain natural phenomenon. We assume that because that's how we were taught to think in school. Myth is not just how to explain natural phenomenon, but much much more complex. Same with our understanding of older religions, especially the early shamanic. Instead of asking people who still live in these circumstances we take the word of a college professor or academic who doesn't understand the world in which these people lived, and some still live. We fall into that trap of assuming everyone thinks the way we do, but that's far from true.

@@algernoncalydon3430 yes indigenous world views and beliefs across the world all share a common idea that humans are part of nature, that the animals and trees are our brothers and sisters, that everything is connected. Considering the strides we've made in understanding evolutionary biology and astrophysics, their world view is arguably the most accurate. We literally are connected to everything by being made up of the remnants of stars, and all life on earth being descended from a single cell millions of years ago. Science and spiritually meet at last! haha

@@Joyride37 this guy hit the ringer, it's literally everything. We had a supreme creator who started the universe, or the great move up towards the surface world, basically from the 5 worlds below. In these 5 worlds the gods finish "god's" creation. There are two classes of people, the holy people and earth people.

I wonder why the earliest version of a PIE sun god were female or associated with feminine energy? And then later became male in descendant cultures? My guess is perhaps PIE speakers picked up on the sun being important for plant growth, so associated growth/life with feminine energy. Cuz women give birth and what not. Then other cultures considered it a masculine energy for different reasons, maybe strength and vitality or something. Something similar occurred with Taino of the Caribbean. They personified the sun and it's spirit/major ancestral spirit as Yucahu (literally, breath/spirit of yuca). Yuca was their staple crop, so they attributed it's growth to Yucahu, who provided the sun's rays. Kinda interesting cuz they were observing photosynthesis, and then used the best of their knowledge at the time to explain it.

@@Joyride37 I don't know, but there are older sun god's too. Interestingly the mesopotamian moon god Arma had two children: Utu (sun) and Inanna (morning star) which is an interesting take considering the sun and moon are usually a coupled pair.

Maybe women coopted the moon as a moon goddess when they realized that they could track their menses to the phases of the moon. They told stories if the moon goddess to both their male and female children and soon enough those boys grew up to be men who believed in the moon goddess?

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Actually, the Classical Greeks are quite distant from the Mycenaeans, as genetic studies state. The classical Greeks were a mixture of Mycenaean and northern greek populations who were quite distant.

I agree, Minoans worshipped cow headed god. Sound proto indo-european to me. Manus and Yemi story evolved

Didnt the proto greeks came into greece after the mycenaeans ?

To be honest ancient Near Eastern and European peoples were very similar to one another (denser male beard and lack of epicanthus) and also the ancient Central Asians (all these ancients termed "West Eurasians" also have a large contribution to South Asian peoples... Central Asia was mostly West Eurasian for it’s history).

@@king_halcyon Well, we do not know much about the populations in Eurasia since 80,000 years ago, but Eurasian populations could be quite distant.

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Thank you for watching, and taking the time to comment. You may be happy to hear my next video, out on Saturday, will talk about the who the "giants" (aka Titans) really were. I think you may find that interesting.

@@Crecganford thank you for your reply. I am looking forward to your next video. You have really interesting and educational content.

@@Crecganford I think that the myth of the Titans were some of the ancient I.E gods that was not compatible with the new sedentary agro lifestyle. While the older PIE gods characteristics were assimilated in the new pantheon with few exceptions like Demeter or Hekate who retained their identity while others like Pandora was demonized or just erased.

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It makes sense for a God of the Earth to be married to a God of the Sea. And then they have a daughter is basically the God of Agriculture.

Poseidon actually means "Master of the Earth". He was also called Ennosigaeos "Earth-shaker" (Mycenean E-ne-si-da-o-ne), because earthquakes were attributed to him.

@@judasiscariot6133 If Poseidon was married to an Earth god, the term "Earth-shaker" is full of innuendo. XD

@@Badficwriter Definitely gives a different way to look at earthquakes lmao. Poseidon be clapping those cheeks :P

Yes, a few noticed I said Mycenaean as opposed to Minoan, which I did say but edited out when I shrunk the video… I will correct this formally when I next make a video on the subject. Thanks for noticing :)

@@Crecganford Your content is great on mythology. I hope KZfaq algorithm catches your channel.

I hope you enjoy them!

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@@Crecganford Absolutely. Any and all praise given to your works are, in my humble opinion, well deserved. Here in the US, I had to pay about $20,000 per semester to be able to access information like yours, which you give away for free. Thank you so much for all your time well spent and hard work dutifully performed...

Yes, and I will mention that briefly in the next video :) Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment

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Sunrise sparkle - Thor is the son of Odin(Woden). And the same Father/son relationship can be seen in Egypt (Osirus/Horus) and other pantheon's in Persia and Assyria. Fascinating stuff.

Yes indeed. I kept thinking of them and their non Indo-european language.

Yes please.

That would be amazing

I have some cool information on that. My paternal side of the family is Basque and I have listened to my elders since the 70'a about some of the older rural lore and stories. The channel owner can contact me to open up a discussion if he is interested.

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Very interesting! Thanks for sharing this!

It's worth noting that the name "Homer" is itself speculated to be derived from an old grecian work for "poet" or "chronicler" or the sort.

@@absalomdraconis Along those lines it’s been said in some translations that Arthur is a title a person in the form of King Arthur. So, the matter regarding Homer wouldn’t surprise me.

Troy was damaged or destroyed at least twice around the 13th century BCE, and it's likely one or both of these destructions would go on to (partially) inspire the Epic Cycle, being combined with older, half-remembered Indo-European tales and mythic structures - but at this point, both sides of the conflict (Achaean/Myceneans and Trojans/Luwians) were pretty firmly Indo-European. I think it's doubtful that either the Myceneans or the Dark Age / Archaic Greeks (or even the Trojans, for that matter) would have had cultural memories reaching far enough back (1000+ years at the least) for them to recognise or even conceptualise this shift. I suppose it's poetic in a way to read the Iliad as recording the battle for and against Proto Indo-European cultures - and it may be true that some pre-IE culture lingers in the recesses of the text - but if there is a hidden history here, it isn't one which was included at all consciously.

Another copy of genesis Genesis chapter 1 There were once two very intelligent animals God admired their tenacity and intuition he had guided them to the oasis that they now shared God called them Ari and Kea These were the first two people A beautiful ancestor of womankind And the handsome predecessor of all mankind they themselves were not all unalike from the creatures of the earth before they A species of early man now known as Australopithecus Afarensis He would see her picking fruits and tending to plants and he quietly admired her presence and passion, she would see him hunting with purpose and respect She admired his stoicism and rationale Overtime the male and female grew more and more comfortable with each other They would leave gifts for one another It gave them great pleasure to provide for the other The Woman would conceive a way to record all the gifts that the hunter had left for her each day She developed a simple counting system that began with one I,II,III,IV,V,VI,VII,VIII,VIII,IX,X these numerals the foundation of modern mathematics She continued until she had counted to 21 Each gift carried his blessings unto her she was very comfortable with the man she decided to make the first physical contact as she wasn’t sure whether or not the man would She opened up her arms And he took her embrace It was good This gave them a feeling the woman would call joy She counted one more gift and marked it as it was XII Chapter 2 Ari would show Kea the fruits that she had picked climbing the tallest of trees And he would share with her the meat that he had honorably hunted for in the field that once separated them They began to make noises with their mouths that would be used to entertain, explain themselves and quarrel amongst themselves Often considering the sounds they came up with quite amusing This is how the first Woman invented the first language, she had done so to describe all that she would see in the garden of Eden And she shared her discovery with who she felt was very special as she felt he had been reason for the discovery Kea and Ari could now speak to each other It was a simpler language it illustrated the nature, the animals, and each other It was a very sweet language and they made many words Ari began to make a collection of shapes corresponding to the different sounds their mouths could make She would call them letters The first alphabet Was 20 letters and contained A B D F G I J K L N O P Q R S T V X Y Z They discovered one could arrange these letters to make meaningful words, now they could better express the emotion and character of all that they laid eyes on there would soon be a word for all that was in the garden of Eden When they ran out of plants and animals to describe that the two people realized they hadnt yet made words for themselves yet She wrote a new letter into the dirt that she felt represented her, her husband would do the same, he scribbled The letter M and she came up with the letter VV He took her hand into his, looked lovingly into her eyes and told her what he was ”I am man” she smiled and declared “I am woman” Now they had a word to describe All the Things that they loved The alphabet now had 22 letters

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Yes, this is something I’m working on, but it is a hugely complicated topic and will be some months away.

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@@Crecganford Thank you for the reply. I shall keep that in mind!👍

@@flamingdonut9456 it’s so interesting why humanity had developed the capacity to tell these good/nice stories and traditions, and developed long distance trading when it’s kinda unneeded for just a hunter/gatherer. Looks like abundance of resources and dependence of mothers on society may have selected the greatest intelligence possible, mainly expanding in reasoning power, memory power, communication/sociability and of course technology.

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Yes, it is such a shame what Christianity destroyed, it really does annoy me when I think about it.

​@@Crecganfordare we going to ignore how much Islam destroyed? Only Christianity has admitted it's mistake. Islam however

@@caniblmolstr452 heaps of different Muslim leaders throughout history have condemned iconoclasm just as many also voraciously approved of it, just like Christian leaders. The two religions have ebbed and flowed between extremes since their foundings, you have to remember that Salafist Islam is a modern fundamentalist re-interpretation and isn't representative of Islam all throughout history.

@@w0t_m818 Islamic rulers in India destroyed unspeakable number of temples, universities and libraries for almost a thousand years. Establishing Islam in foreign lands was one of the primary reasons given for invasions by many Muslim Kings. Historically speaking, Islam and Islamic rulers have wiped out the original religion and culture of almost every country they invaded and settled. So no its not a modern thingg.

@@w0t_m818 salafist Islam is just the most extreme but the subsuming of the local culture has always bee present. You think the present Syrians, Iraqis, Palestinians, Egyptians are the people they claim to be. Nope. They are all Arabs who conveniently have adopted the local culture they destroyed. In the same manner let's say an American today may call themselves Red Indian after killing off all the Red Indians

Most academics agree she is probably of Phoenician origin, but I do not know much else about her off the top of my head. Although I would assume she is several thousand years old. I will do a little reading, and if interesting enough I’ll make a video about her :) Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.

The bull was Zeus, her consort. The bull symbolises the age of Taurus.

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The flood story is not so important to this video, however I will cover it in detail in the next few months, including the earliest linguistic traces we have of it, so far far older than Gilgamesh.

That is a significant possibility.

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@@CrecganfordMan,. your voice is great and the video contents too. Congrats 👏👏👏👏👏

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I have a video about this, Tyr vs Odin, it may interest you: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/apiPoZNjlsfeaXk.html

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Modern Greeks like to pretend the were genetically unscathed after living for 300 years or so occupied by the Ottoman Turks. They are not the same blood as the Mycenaean Greeks, for now they look like Turks. Good knowledge of Linear B, however. Poseidon was the great god, no doubt. He may have been the top deity even before the Greeks became seafarers. And Aphrodite did not exist!

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