In my primal brain, I love how nice it feels to put a plant all the way where the enemy spawns, and know it'll do good work.

Iceweed, surprisingly enough, synergizes really well with fire plants, as his fire rate means that the second a fire plant thaws a zombie, it gets chilled again. It works especially well with inferno, as he pushes zombies back onto the iceweeds once they've walked off them. Loud plants stick together.

I've always thought Spikeweed was extremely underrated I've seen some people even say it is one of the worst plants in pvz. But I think people who say it's bad or even it's alright have not gave it a good enough shot.

I’m surprised this wasn’t mentioned: You can plant spikeweed (and it’s variants) on flowers in “don’t trample the flowers” levels so that a zombie that walks over them won’t count as trampling the flowers

For favourite plants in the franchise as a whole I'd go with: Coconut Cannon- Very simple to use manual plant that has a very large impact in the field due to his pretty fast recharge, reasonable cost and really good base damage that can weaken any tough zombie enemy into something much more manageable as well as wiping dense zombie hordes pretty easily with the splash damage. He's also very fun to use in general. Would def use this as a gold standard for manual plants as well as heavy plants in general. Lava Guava-Very potent insta that is pretty much a godsend on any level with freeze gimmicks. The lava pool it leaves can thin out very dense clusters easily as well as severely weakening tougher zombies, while also being pretty good at stalling Gargantuars if you immediately place Lava Guava in front of them. It also doesn't interfere with plants that inflict chill or freeze much like Snow Pea or Winter Melon like most fire plants, so that's a huge plus in my book. Very good insta overall that I'm surprised hasn't gotten much more traction before. Hypno Shroom- This guy has way more potential than what most people think. Very useful early grave removal for levels that love spamming graves alot throughout the lawn as well as turning tanky zombies like Brickheads or Cone Mechs into very durable walls to protect your plants with while also pushing through weaker zombies without much trouble. Plus the plant food is just really funny

Definitely an interesting take on dickweed. I always felt like he was quite the odd plant out when compared to the rest of the plants

My favourite has always been puff shroom ever since I saw it in the first game. And I really liked the reworked mechanics of the second game. There’s not particularly any synergy, it’s just a really good and reliable plant for early game and you can just plant it for the entire game if you want since it really has no downsides (unless there’s a jester). Scaredy-shroom is a close second though, it had really fun risk-reward mechanics, RIP.

In original PvZ spikeweeds also pop the tires of the catapults. This only happens in last stand endless because that is the only place catapults and spikeweeds can exist on the field at the same time

Ice weed seems to synergize more with fire plants. With it just basically freezing the zombie as it gets un frozen. It seems to be less spike weedy and more stalling.

iceweed could be combined with fire pea shooter or wasabi whip because you can keep huge damage without losing your freeze slow most of the time.

18:05 sweet potato(mainly bc of the design), ghost pepper(a really cool plant to use while not being extremely busted and not having some really stupid weaknesses), snow pea(THE definition of balanced.)

After leveling it up only once or twice, you only need one to kill a basic zombie, making it much more useful.

18:05 Cherry bomb. I always think of instant use plants in Vinilla as plants that supplement and support good defenses and Cherry Bomb does that really well. A flat 1800 damage in a 3*3 area is also surprising versatile whether you want to destroy a dense horde or target some special ones in the back.

People think Spikeweed is weak for being unable to kill a basic zombie by itself, but it actually is REALLY strong, being able to deal a significant amount of damage over a singular tile along with group dps, and synergizes VERY well with stall plants. Puff Shroom is also strong, packing similar punch to a Peashooter but over a much shorter range.

Never thought I would watch an 18 minute video about spikeweed. Well done

I like it’s synergy with Winter Melon. Doubling up on the AOE damage is pretty nice, and the slowdown helps the Spikeweed. Then, throw in an instakill plant like Toadstool, and it’s all set to go

as a spikeweed fan myself, i felt really seen and validated by this video i would have spikeweed as an auto include half the time when i played pvz1 (especially outside of story) and i'd never imagined that people would actually think it's bad

Hypno shroom is a cool plant to me. Having the enemies attack their team instead (or something like zoy bean) is cool in my opinion

I want to say, Ultomato seems to work fine in the mods I've used it in, those being GT and ITS. It's probably one of the better modern plants for modmaking. In GT, it's actually a really solid earlygame plant and has very good synergy with Escape Root. In ITS, it's a REALLY strong lategame plant that had to get nerfed a couple times to stop it from completely dominating levels, but it feels like it's in a well-balanced spot now. As for my favourite plant, it's a toss-up between Zoybean and Infi-nut.

My favorite has been Endurian, partially because he’s a combo plant that isn’t too bad in other eras, but also because he’s just fun to watch as he stares in all directions looking for things to do. It might be simple, but I love it

18:03 When I played cracked vanilla I've had my fair share of favourites. Electric Currant with Garlic. Divert zombies in the second and fourth lane and fry them up. Also pairs quite well with the three weeds mentioned in the video, especially with Iceweed or any slows and stalls in general. Rotobaga or Starfruit also make for a great mid lane. Another one was Celery Stalker. Without the cracked upgrades I thought that it was useless and it kinda was BUT. It deals high enough damage to be viable and also has quite a bit of HP to stall the crowd. Overall I like letting the whole level pass through only held back by the Thyme warp and then spam the Stalker and its PF to fill the level and watch as the crowd just... disappears. Another one was the Banana. Basically a miles better Cob Cannon. Faster reload, shorter fire-hit interval, great damage, what else does a plant need? Well, maybe some sun production.

I love Kernal-pult more than any other plant in the series. Coincidentally, Spikeweed/Spikerock work pretty well with it. Dandelion is a close second, thanks to its reach and (small) aoe attacks. I also want to give an honourable mention to the BeeShooter from the defunct PvZ adventures, and the Caramelpult from the original version of PvZ3.

I like spikeweed because its one of like one passive damage plants, making it incredibly unique, and is basically the closest to invincible any plant can be.

I've actually used Iceweed, and I'd like to input my thoughts, as I think it's actually pretty interesting. Firstly, and most obviously, stalling a zombie above a Spikeweed will allow Spikeweed to do more damage. Secondly, however, there's the synergies that Iceweed's chilling effect presents: -Bonk Choy has a greater time window to punch chilled zombies before they reach it. -Primal Peashooter can keep chilled zombies trapped on Iceweed by applying repeated knock back. -Melon Pult can do splash damage to a dense clump of chilled zombies. Worth noting that using Melon Pult and Iceweed is cheaper than using Wintermelon and Spikeweed. You aren't using it as a staller to slow zombie progress, but instead, you're using it as a staller to make zombies vulnerable to things that can either kill them or to things that do a better job of slowing zombie progress. I definitely recommend giving it a shot, should you get the chance. It's got a lot of potential.

I barely use spikeweed but recently I accidentally unlocked iceweed and I've been using it in like almost every strategy ever since. Also I like boom balloon better than banana launcher cuz I can just spam balloons everywhere and wait for zombies to touch it, meanwhile for banana you gotta look for the zombies tile and place and for faster zombies you gotta place it in front of them cuz of how long the rocket takes to land, and not to mention how expensive it is and how slowly the rocket comes back! My attention span can only handle so much.

Just want to say the clarity of your voice in this video was *much* better than normal, very appreciated and very epic. Also cool video, I too can enjoy the role spikeweed has as a reliable "filter" for various zombie types... when there's no gargantuar that is

18:05 Hypno-Shroom (ive aways got sad about how weak he is, but his design and concept are amazing), Ghost pepper (strong, great design, no flaws), Turkey pult (even tho i never had him, i love his design and his mechanic), Tiger grass (hes kinda weak but i love felines and hes cute), Lightning reed (hes weak too, only use to counter chickens, but hes a pretty nice plant), Winter melon (idk i just like him), Doom-Shroom (sad that he didnt got into pvz2, hes strong as heck) Starfruit (He aways help me, nice concept) Bowling bulb (he got a lot stronger with tiering, also he has a fun concept) Banana launcher (Hes cute, strong, etc) ok thats a lot of text, im just gonna say it here if nobody wants read above: HypnoShroom,GhostPepper,TurkeyPult,TigerGrass,LightningReed,WinterMelon,DoomShroom,Starfruit,BowlingBulb,BananaLauncher.

Favourite plant? Lightning Reed, Red Stinger, and AKEE are first three that come to head. I have not played any mods, but the Reed is just fun. _Plain joy,_ to pick. When I played vanilla pvz2, I time and time again chose Lightning Reed and spammed it, and see it wreck things Stinger because it looks cool, is basically a gatling pea stat-wise (iirc) in closest 3 lanes to home, and unless there are excavator zombies/its frostbite caves, it's a great plant AKEE just has that smile and I _love_ it. Plus I enjoy it's gimmick, sad however that it's not that good. I usually use it with the Stinger to cover eachother's weaknesses. *It's plantfood sucks tho in my opinion.*

My favorites, for some reason -- Spikerock: ah yes, the chicken and weasel killers. I think that they are also really good at killing up to medium hp zombies, and also pretty easy to use -- Twin sunflower: yes. I used Twin Sunflower, unironically. Don't ask why, but i guess having additional 25 sun made this more user friendly-ish, now considering the fact you have to 100% the main game now, not as an option anymore. -- Ice Lettuce: zen garden buff made this essentially ice shroom, but free i guess --puff shroom, also zen garden buff. Now can be (potentially at least) immortal!

My favourite plant has and always will be iceberg lettuce, although I really dislike the levelling system. Iceberg remains as that one constant plant that just makes sense, it’s a plant that freezes on contact, and that’s it. I love its design and its simplicity, simply everything about it. Even the costumes

Personally I really like using Spikeweed. Yeah, it does to things like Gargs easily, but it’s got some really good support value by clearing out weaker zombies like Imps, Browncoats, etc.

Favorite has always been Ghost Pepper. Loved the design, feels balanced and it has unique traits that really makes it stand out at the time, that also happen to fit the ghost theme it has. While I havent played much mods of pvz 2 lately, it seems that its also a plant that doesnt really change in gameplay much other than maybe a sun cost change (also it being able to be planted on other plants from that gameplay looks really interesting, fits the theme and looks it can applicated in unique strategies)

The two Eclise plants that you mentioned, I have made crazy fun strategy's with galumight and Crystal shroom galumight is a great instant version of garlic saving you if you have a lack of defence in one lane, and can be a vary powerful zombie stall, as well as a general manipulation tool Crystal shroom has value in being a great group stalling tool, has great synergies with what was an anti-synergy for other plants, like fire, knock-back, other types of stall, it's vary well rounded with the weakness of that one effect unlike other stallers.

another plant you can pair with this is pvz2's current torchwood. the fire dmg when near + lane wide dmg upon defeat will prove to be enough to kill a group of cone heads or even some bucketheads. the only problem is its durability compared to some defensive plants. it only has 2000 compared to durian's 3000. plus torchwood can only do 10 dmg at close while durian can do 20 dmg at close. but due to the lanewide defeat, it could be a strong temporary offensive shield when you need to create a stronger defense.

In the base game, I almost never removed Potato Mine and Iceberg Lettuce in my lineup all the way to Modern Day. Using them to delay the first few zombie deaths is so good if you can afford the 2 slots. By the time I place my first defensive plant, I already have a full column of max sized Sun Shrooms.

My favorite plant would be the Kernel-Pult. Getting the lucky butter to freeze the zombie in place for a short amount of time was so rewarding as a kid, especially when you would get multiple butters in the row. I feel like it's balanced, both with the luck aspect and the fact that the kernel attack probably does less damage than a cabbage or a pea

Someone tell me why I kept on pressing the suns on the screen smh

My favourite has always been puff shroom ever since I saw it in the first game. And I really liked the reworked mechanics of the second game. There’s not particularly any synergy, it’s just a really good plant for early game and you can just plant it for the entire game if you want. Scaredy-shroom is a close second, RIP.

spikeweed is my favorite plant as well, and I'm glad it gets the recognition it deserves from you

I don't even play PVZ and love your vids, they are just so interesting. Keep it up!

I haven't used iceweed too but I think it's good to use with plant attackers that doesn't have ice or fire but there are torch zombies or fast ones

I think spike weed is extremely usefully in certain levels and against certain enemys

This is really interesting take on such mediocer looking plant, it makes me want to use it more 👍 Also my favorite plants are Corn pult, Iceberg lettuce and Lightning reed

Probably Kernel-pult - I simply just love the idea of throwing butter

18:05 (just some of them) Bonk-Choy: he is reliable, has good damage, good cost for what he does, and his plantfood is cherry bomb but looks cooler. Outclassed by newer plants? Yes, but... who cares? Zoybean: I just really like this little bean, while he might not be that unique as he servers as a permanent Hypno-Shroom and a more reliable Caulipower. He is still a really cool plant that I really like. Even though he ain't the most original. Celery Stalker: he is a sneaky Bonk-Choy, and I really like Bonk-Choy. Also funny joke there PopCap, put a plant with "Stalker" in it's name just before the level where you send girl zombies. Chomper: I always loved Chomper, since PvZ1, soo of course he is one of my favorites in PvZ2. ToadStool? **** outta here with that cheap copy. Thyme Warp: What can I say, this guy is a massive help.

Red stinger is temporary, spikeweed is eternal.

Make more of these videos pls you only have like 6 I need to watch more. I don’t even play the game but I might now. Thanks for the amazing content.

I honestly like this plant too! It really helps especially in pvz1 when it comes to the vehicles

I'd call spikeweed one of the most consistently reliable plants. Will almost always find good use in any level (except big wave beach of course). Plus it's weaknesses are easy to deal with. Flying zombies? *Laughs in blover* Gargs? That's what explosives and stuns are for. Plus it's plant food is a great way to basically reset a lane in emergencies.

My favorite plant is definitely ghost pepper. A weaker multilane spikeweed that is unkillable and explodes after a while really intrigues me.

As a casual, I like the combo of Bonk Choy, Wallnut, Spikeweed. I find that it does a really good job at dealing with hordes (at least on the earlier levels).

VERY glad there are some more spikeweed appreciators out there

my favourite plants are probably ghost pepper and snap dragon, probably leaning more to ghost pepper because of its versatility. in pretty much any level that i can i'll often use 2 lines of snap dragons, a line of walls and then spikerock and instas(mainly ghost pepper) for support. seeing walls of fire delete the zombies just gives me dopamine. is cold snap dragon better? yeah, probably. but honestly i've never used it, haven't played any pvz 2 mods or anything and i'm just going off of when i used to play pvz 2. maybe i should try out mods, but i'm not sure i want to dedicate too much time to a game i used to enjoy. i mean i still would like to enjoy it, pvz was a huge part of my childhood, but the games have simply just been ruined over time

I’m curious of your opinion on celery stalker as I find it sharing many synergies with spike weed such being paired with stalling plants as well as plants like wall nut but it speacializes on dealing better single target damage instead of area damage but is also cheaper and leaves itself vulnerable while attacking

Spikeweed/rock/Iceweed can also be used as a really good prospector counter in the back with pumpkin, because if it flies to c1 and you have a row of pumpkins and spikeweeds down, they still attack and take care of them before they can kill all your plants, sorta like a weird and probably worse endurian.

I used to avoid using spikeweed before but recently after seeing the consistent damage it can do at the front lines compared to usually having nothing there, i find myself using it more and more, so i understand you having it as a fave

I always thought Spikeweed should have armor piercing, because how does a helmet protect you from what'd underneath

video should be titled "Why Spikeweed is weally cool", idfk why i just want it to be

It's always interesting to see things like this pop up in my youtube feed. I never realised that PvZ had such a serious meta.

There's so many plants to choose from that it's going to be hard for me to have a favorite one since I never had favorites in the first place

What emulator do you use?

My favorite part was when spikeweed said: "It's spiking time!" and spiked all the zombies, I cried and sobbed for 72 hours straight because of how revolutionary it was, truly a work of art!

turkeypult and stickybomb rice make a deadly combo though, being able to easily deal with gargantuars.

I always liked how spikerock/double spikeweed can kill basics/imps easily, I've seen interesting modded levels where zombies spawn in huge bunches, spikeweed makes an interesting counter

3:26 This clip has bothered me since I first saw this video. Flying zombies aren’t new. One of the flying zombies in PVZ2 is literally taken from PVZ.

“Simple to understand, doesn’t have any inherent complexities, but can be used in complex ways.” Exactly what should be strived for. When designing games, we tend towards making the overall design complex instead of making the strategies around them complex. I’ve fallen into that trap at least once. But when we make a design intuitive, and instead build upon it with interesting ways to use it, we get great design. We get Spikeweed.

I have never played plants vs zombies and stumbled upon this channel by accident so i have no idea what this guy is saying but i like it!!

I love how spikerock's Gigantiar tank works in both pvz 1 and 2

I would kill for a video about sun producers and how good they are + comparing and usage

Most of ur arguments piss me off, sure some I agree with but why go all snobby at the viewer and say like “blank is SIMPLY better” or just manipulate the audience. It’s kinda shitty

Love this plant, spike rock especially. I love a combo of winter melons and spike rocks.

Spikeweed was one my favorite plants to use. I just really like this style of creatures in this kinds of games.

"A new type of zombie in flying zombies" *Sad balloon noises*

I liked using spike weed in PvZ 1. It thought it was really unique, and usually those were the plants I went for. The spike rock upgrade made it feel even cooler to use when I was a kid lol

I definitely agree, is my favourite early game plant - couple it with a wall plant and it DESTROYS

My favourite strategy involves mostly spiky plants. I love using endurian with the stone variant of spikeweed. This strategy is also really good against gargantuars because you can make it constantly strike one plant as you refresh it while being hit by another one and having two bonkchois on each side hitting it too for huge dps. I also like placing a ton of spikeweeds and teleporting all the zombies back to the start to have them walk over it again.

i actually feel this was with split pea, it just feels so underrated and can be used in many useful ways

I still remember that one last stand pirate level that I had a lot of trouble with before realizing I could just plant a ton of spikeweed and win instantly

Heck yeah I love spikeweed and spikerock (and the chill one), both are amazing plants even if most people won't agree, mostly paired with slowers, nuts and instants makes the game x1000 easier against big groups of zombies Always used it on f2p pvz 2 and eclise and it made most levels easy Btw im subbing!!

Honestly my only complaint of spikeweed and spikerock is that It can be a fair bit hard to see, especially when huge hordes come along

I never used Spikeweed/Spikerock in the first game, but after trying it out in the second, I LOVE it. I honestly don’t even have a reason for liking it, I just do.

Two spikeweed, a tallnut, and a chomper was my favorite frontline in PVZ 1. You can't use it often, but when you can it's so satisfying!

I haven't played PVZ2 (and I'm still debating if I should), but I really liked spikeweed in PVZ1, it was just fun seeing all of the zombies die before even reaching the second lane, or infront of wallnut. Idk, I just like it.

My favorite plant is a simple plant, and not even one that deals damage: The Moonflower. It’s design is ADORABLE and it’s pretty good for sun production. I can’t remember the last time I willingly picked another sun producing plant over it. (The only exception at times is Sunshroom.) I especially like to use them with murkadamia nuts and shadow peas further right, leaving my back line open for other, more specialized plants. But other beloved plants of mine, in no particular order are: Iceberg Lettuce, Dusk Lobber, Electric Blueberry, Murkadamia Nut, and Fire Pea.

Magnifying grass, really puts emphasis on reasource management and gives you a gun in exchange

18:05 bowling bulb! The more enemies the better, and the fact that i play on vanilla and have never spent a single cent in the game makes it one of the best options against large hoards

I’m so glad other people understand just how good spikeweed is. It and spikerock have become a main staple of most of my loadouts for pvz2 solely because they’re great additional damage for fairly cheap.

my favourite plant is homing thistle for a simple reason, it is consistent between mods ,the only thing that i saw more unique (from the mods that i played) is eclise's homing making it a heavy plant with limited range and same mechanic of targeting the zombie closer to your home, its design is good and is something that i always use when in doubt because of how i normally play (stall as much as possible early game to make loads of sun) i don't know why people say it's just a full board peashotter, it has more to it than what is seems, normally regarded as a bad plant for recharge (not always tho), it hits flying, small and normal zombies and has pretty much everything you need, i love how gt000 makes it so that it can be buffed by torch bc then it can be a more reliable late game plant

I remember that when completing PvZ2 for the first time I used a ton of Spikeweeds and Spikerocks (depending on enemies). Other plants I used a lot of during that time were Red Stinger, Infi-Nut, Fume Shroom, Aloe, Electric Currant, Stallia, Iceberg Lettuce and Shrinking Violet. Oh, and Snapdragon.

I love this video, but I really wish you mentioned the upgrade (purchased in Dave's shop) in pvz 1 because it makes them extremely hard to destroy and able to withstand a ton of hits from a gargantuars, so as long as you have the upgrade

I don't know about the mods, but in the og version, Red Stinger is an offensive and defensive plant. The reason why his offense is reduced when placed in the middle three tiles is because he becomes more defensive while also doing the damage of a peashooter. And when he clapses both leaves together, he becomes entirely defensive. This doesn't have much of a purpose other than being a faster loading walnut.

i am happy to share the same taste for plants with you bro

When I see a gargantuar at the beginning I just keep a spikeweed and some plant food on hand as a failsafe to sort of reset the gargantuar's progress if shit hits the fan

Please make this a series where you review plants

18:05 my favorite plants are: cold snap, spikerock, endurian, laser bean, bowling bulb, cherry bomb and sun shoorm

Spikeweed is so cool in PvZ1. When I first saw the trail of tears strat where you place garlic and a bunch of gloom shrooms in lanes 2 and 4, and then spike weeds everywhere else, my mind was blown.

balloon’s gimmick is to stack balloons onto 1 tile for the same damage as cherry but i only got “use” from it once when i placed a balloon in preparation for a football zombie and misclicked on the same tile with a second balloon

In PvZ1, Basic Zombies (Includes Cone heads, screendoors, Bucket heads) have random walking speeds based on rng. 2 spikeweeds for slow basic zombies then 3 for the fast ones.

My favs are Cold Snap, Explode-O-Nut, Gold Bloom, Goo Pea, and More. There's just a lotta neat plants (=

my favorite (since its pretty strong) is peanut when paired with reinforce-mint, since it activates the plant food effect