The History of Bipolar Disorder: An Untold Story | Dr. Manuel Sánchez de Carmona |

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Over 2,400 years ago, Greek physician Hippocrates first detailed symptoms of "opposite" mood states - what we now understand as mania and depression. Throughout the Middle Ages and into the modern era, vivid descriptions of melancholy and euphoria continued to surface, drawing focus to a set of distinct symptoms that appeared to occur in cycles.
In this special #talkBD episode, psychiatrist Dr. Manuel Sánchez de Carmona dives through centuries of evidence to uncover the fascinating story of manic-depression - and how we've come to know the condition today as "bipolar disorder".
00:00 Introduction
01:54 Virginia Woolf Knew She Was Ill
03:58 Ancient Greece & Rome
09:22 19th Century France & Germany
14:18 The Circular Pattern of Bipolar Disorder
18:52 The Modern Era
21:00 The Bipolar Spectrum
24:14 The DSM & History of Mixed Features
27:04 Today: Key Figures, Advocacy, World Bipolar Day
31:50 The Term "Bipolar Disorder" Is Inaccurate?
35:20 King George III & Life Charting
41:49 Learning from Your History
People referenced:
Ancient & Classical: Hippocrates, Aristotle, Aretaeus of Cappadocia, Posidonius
19th Century: Jean-Pierre Falret, Jules Baillarger, Karl Kahlbaum, Emil Kraepelin, King George III, Vincent van Gogh
Modern Era: Virginia Woolf, Karl Leonhard, Jules Angst, David Kupfer, Ellen Frank
Today: Kurt Cobain, Carrie Fisher, Kanye West, Britney Spears
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Dr. Manuel Sánchez de Carmona is a member of the ISBD Board of Directors and works as an associate professor of Clinical Psychiatry for the Anahuac University in Mexico City, Mexico. He began his involvement with ISBD in 2008 as the founder of the ISBD Mexican Chapter and since then in key leadership roles: first as ISBD Secretary Treasurer and then as ISBD President, serving for two consecutive terms from March 2014 to December 2017. He was able to actively promote the Society and generate local chapters in several countries of Latin America, Asia, and Europe. He is passionate about providing education on bipolar disorders and using the Society as a game-changer in public mental health services. Since World Bipolar Day’s inception, he has been involved in its global promotion and making connections with experts with the lived experience to generate community awareness and fight stigma. Dr. Sanchez de Carmona has more than 30 years of clinical experience treating mood disorders and is interested in diagnosis, early detection, and providing quality of life to patients.
This episode is hosted by Dr. Erin Michalak and produced by Caden Poh.
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@CRESTBD 7 ай бұрын

Hi everyone, this time we wanted to bring some new content that is rarely covered anywhere. This episode's production began many weeks ago, and it's finally here. Thank you for watching, we hope you enjoyed this episode. You can also use this link to share this video to your friends and family: bipolarhistory.com And feel free to leave us some feedback or let us know if you have ideas for our next episodes! 🤎

@joeboxter3635 Ай бұрын

King George life does not fit bipolar. Bipolar does not have such long gaps. 1765 depression. 1788 psychosis. 1811, "incapacity." Those are 20 years apart. That's not bipolar. We know from long studies - nearly 20 years of large groups (1000) that cycles are 1 to 3 years (more 1) and roughly at a 2 to 1 ratio of duration depression to mania. George May have had some psychiatric condition. But it wasn't bipolar.

@VestalNumbre 19 күн бұрын

@@joeboxter3635so much to learn !so I was hypomanic before I also was anxious

@connieliz 7 ай бұрын

This is the kind of video that I’d have to watch more than once in order to fully grasp the richness of the information it presents. The most comforting thought I’ve told myself time and time again when I go through bipolar disorder is that millions across the history of human existence have experienced the same suffering or worse. And even though it always feels like you are going through this all by yourself, I promise you that YOU ARE NOT ALONE. We are all in it together, and we can all get through it. Thank you for this beautiful work!

@ghost_buster666 2 ай бұрын

I love his explanation of it being circular, it's so accurate. I see so much stigma for the word "bipolar" I would rather it be called "manic depression." It's more descriptive and less easy to use as an insult.

@raywilson2185 2 ай бұрын

I agree manic depression..and depression is not a mental disorder even animals can experience depression..mostly in captivity..it's not because of chemical imbalance in our brain..anybody can go into a manic state, depression or both..many different factors can cause this..drug abuse,physical abuse..environmental conditions,stress,impacful life situations.ect.

@MikaM773 7 ай бұрын

I hope everyone who has bipolar disorder gets to see this. So well done. The time charts and quotes are presented beautifully. I just wanted to say that all these videos on bipolar disorder have really helped me in life. Thanks to the whole team.

@robinjanz-buhr4427 6 ай бұрын

Diagnosed Bipolar 2 in my mid-20s and Autistic at my current age of 46. Knowledge is power. Thank you for this wonderful, in-depth learning!

@marlenesuarez6459 4 ай бұрын

Thanks, the video is good I 'am from Nicaragua, 🇳🇮 My son is bipolar II, 👍🏽🙏🏽❤️

@slabmonster1950 3 ай бұрын

I would love to hear your story.. I have been diagnosed with bipolar disorder type 2 at 23 and scored a massive 147 on the RAADS test!! I am very down and confused.

@robinjanz-buhr4427 3 ай бұрын

@slabmonster1950 Hello! I would encourage you to explore/research women on the spectrum. I've read that there can be a comorbidity with Bipolar and Autism. I'm not a professional. Like yourself, I found all the online tests I could do and then reached out to a psychologist to explore a clinical diagnosis. I was fortunate to have coverage, and I realized that not everyone has access to these services. Your GP should be able to provide some resources. All the best.

@Noblesavagemetalarts 7 ай бұрын

I am 44 and was recently diagnosed with bipolar disorder. I’ve suffered and caused so much pain to my loved ones. I always knew something was wrong but could never communicate or figure out what it was. As a creative person and artist I’ve went all in on my mental health and finally have a chance to have control. Hearing the way my mind works verbalized so eloquently is very comforting and also interesting.

@Noblesavagemetalarts 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the content! If you ever need a creative bipolar artist to colab with, hit me up 🤙

@Oking950 2 ай бұрын

How to cure bipolar disorder@@Noblesavagemetalarts

@hannalizeweyers5044 5 ай бұрын

People always think a person with biopolar disorder 2 is grazy..being diagnosed late in my late 40 it was hurtfull no one understood.now with the correct treatment i have less mania symptoms.❤

@nicholecornes1915 5 ай бұрын

I have bi polor type 2 and it's just low mood with rare maina

@garrybrown3165 4 ай бұрын

Fascinating presentation and discussion of the history, classification, diagnosis, and treatment of bipolar disorder. Diagnosed 53 years ago, I had the opportunity to have coffee and catch up with my initial diagnosing and treating psychiatrist and fill him in on the remaining history, the rest of the story of my life and the impact of his work, through, in essence, my own life chart.

@teri1873 7 ай бұрын

As a parent of a young adult child Diagnosed with this and other issues, this is a serious and uncertain health issue. Self care is essential to ensure your mental health. A good support system and therapy is needed as well. Medication helps but you need all of the resources to do well. It’s still a stigma and judged by many. The Dr. is right, bi polar is an inaccurate name. People are so much more than a label. Also, for me personally… I need God and praying is soooooo essential. Best to everyone who is touched by this illness ❤️🙏🙏🙏

@evaeggen7825 6 ай бұрын

I think people should be very careful to diagnose a little child with bipolar and treat them with medication, antipsykotika t, nevroleptika that destroys the intelligence early on, the metabolism I'm the body. Rather prayers to a more positive god than those things.

@bipolarway 4 ай бұрын

I’m feeling blessed finding this channel! I’ve always known that Bipolar is more complicated than just taking your meds daily, that’s why they still say that the causes of the disorder are not yet figured out. We have so much to learn still! Thank you tremendously for the video!

@Raymondleight 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this episode. I really love what you are doing with your podcasts. I am 57 years old late in life diagnosed with bipolar 2 and ADHD. I experience extreme rapid cycling and mixed episodes. I find your videos to be very helpful. I really wish I would have been diagnosed sooner and had information like you have available.

@brilliantassist 28 күн бұрын

Just got my diagnosis after 10+ years on the rollercoaster. Really appreciate this video. Thank you.

@CRESTBD 28 күн бұрын

Thank you and take care 🙏

@kkech1 7 ай бұрын

23:33 Happened to me. Was in a manic episode and got into psychosis for several weeks.

@Moniquid 5 ай бұрын

I think that mania and depression are not so much symptoms as states. Psychosis is more complex. But in any state, our thoughts and feelings are not symptoms… they are really ours, but different ones are brought into focus depending on the mood/state. Our identity is constant… while there may be experimentation during mania due to subdued inhibition. And serious doubt, anxiety and even suicidal thoughts due to the depression, and lack of energy to fight them… But we are never someone else. We are just ourselves sometimes going at 100mph sometimes barely in idle. I think that the bipolar disease is the lack of resilience to the stressors, which allows us to be pushed into one extreme or another. But our identity remains intact and transcends the mood states.

@kkech1 7 ай бұрын

"Theia mania" meaning divine madness. The ancients believed people with symptoms of depression, bipolar, schizophrenia, and epilepsy to be "touched by fire," or favored by the gods. Centuries later we still don't really know the exact causes to many of these, and we can still see spiritual aspects of these afflictions. Be it spiritual/mental or physical, the ancients were much more supportive of people struggling with these. People were looked favorably upon from society, instead of being locked up to go insane like we cure these nowadays.

@bipolargamechanger 7 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly. It seems if we only go back to Aristotle, we understand it just as well today as we did back when whoever said it was inflammation of black bile. I researched back to divine mania too. People were revered as having a connection to something beyond, not tranquilized or thrown aside.

@RadioPsychicAstrologyByPepper 7 ай бұрын

Touched by fire 🔥👈🏼🧠

@ghostsheet777 6 ай бұрын

Haha I'm Christian, n my mum always says I'm favoured by God, maybe it's a blessing not a curse 😂

@kkech1 6 ай бұрын

@@ghostsheet777 Treat it as that. It will make life much easier!

@Rileyed 5 ай бұрын

Demons. Jesus cast them out of people. They didn’t like it bc you can’t function. Nobody likes being tormented.

@alghorning 7 ай бұрын

This was a great episode. Thank you!

@frijolbayochannel 7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much for this video. Congratulations to my friend Manuel for this extraordinary exhibition.

@fullyawakeloyah8844 7 ай бұрын

I've been suffering from this for years I'm 40 now I love my family love too work but can't keep a job down I use drugs when I'm in the down cycle to try lift my mood I want help I want to try be as normal as possible they've diagnosed me with ptsd this year but I know I've BP Im so glad this video came up I've subbed I literally went onto the NHS website and under bi poler every thing said is like looking in the mirror

@BoostBl1P 5 ай бұрын

This channel is absolutely amazing. Thank you. ☺️

@asmeninasdoingles 4 ай бұрын

Amazing, thank you a lot for all the information and your time!

@elizalou4964 3 ай бұрын

This is one of the best things I have watched about bi-polar- thank you. From this point forward I am going to say I have circular psychosis. It is such a better and more accurate description. I agree that bi-polar seems to be, as a term, over used and often in a negative way. I’ve lost count how many films/tv programmes I’ve watched over the last few years that refer to bi-polar. So yes we need a new name. We need, as those who suffer with this illness, to not reclaim bipolar but redefine it more accurately in order to move away from stigma and forward into an era that allows for a more accurate description of this crippling illness Thank you for this and all you do 🙏🏼💕

@Shukov 5 ай бұрын

Really nice video, will probably watch it again to get the most out of it.

@meeky007 7 ай бұрын

Fabulous, thank you.

@maryduncan-roach6600 3 ай бұрын

❤ I truly appreciate your discussion. I have bipolar 2. I have only just begun my journey to learn about my disorder vs struggle in ignorance. This has been a very informative video. Thank you both for your time and consideration.

@shehnaazmaneck210 3 ай бұрын

an excellently explained message simply wonderful

@cindyweatherly4501 7 ай бұрын

Thank you.

@Bernard-ux2eb 7 ай бұрын

Brilliant man.

@memoryofChristian_Brando 3 ай бұрын

Christian Brando was a bipolar and the shooting happened during his manic episode. He only was ok after 2005 when he was medically allowed to get medication and he told his former legal guardian in a phone call before his death from an inherited lung disease that after medication he finally found peace. His psychiatrists as a child and teen could not help him. It was the new medical help that have him a few years of peace before his death

@JesseAbair 7 ай бұрын

Keep going. ❤

@jeanniecampbell1374 6 ай бұрын

I am doing my homework to help understand friend ..really so interesting .

@sierrabaughman810 15 күн бұрын

Great vid and info but In reality many are only getting meds and 15 min appts every 3 months with basic same questions....no group therapy or other support group sessions like many benefit from while hospitalized in crisis if the same treatments added outside of crisis sooo many would actually benefit and learn self awareness needed to stay out of crisis and removes the fear and lack of understanding. Also many do not get explanation of anything regarding meds and diagnosis.. I wish this would've been acknowledged by both speakers.

@sine8811 5 ай бұрын

You might want to check out the parts about Virginia Woolf in the Alice Miller books.

@kkech1 7 ай бұрын

7:13 curiously, my cycles have switched poles for some years now. I'm depressed in summer, and manic in winter.

@RadioPsychicAstrologyByPepper 7 ай бұрын

I've always been very seasonal affective disorder in reverse. It gets really anxious blue moods as spring grows to summer in June or sometimes later in May and by later July early August I think I have too much day too high temperatures this excessive light of the day and in the past I think I started to hide indoors air conditioning cranked to forty eight degrees and shades drawn down with a blanket heavy weighted blanket on my knees and lower extremities just hiding until around Virgo season that last week of August or sometime after the labor day holiday time I started to get back to a base mood that was not angry irritated anxious or abysmal and when I was under the age of 35 if unmedicated by my November birthday I would have begun to cycle upwards toward sleepless highly productive mania hypomanic mood swings and then because I didn't comply with the meds I usually ended up getting dark moods yet again the shadows unfurling as early as Easter time to the other side of the autumn me. I'm not able to afford insurance right now so have been unmedicated for a little over two years and I am at fifty asymptomatic for the last three and a half years and hopefully it might have phased out of my life but I don't get that comfortable until I see it in remission for a decade or more.

@kkech1 7 ай бұрын

@@RadioPsychicAstrologyByPepper I'm also waiting for a change of meds atm, searching for the holy grail lol. Maybe I'll write a banger like Nirvana did, if I find my God in a pill. Glad to hear you're doing well without any crutches, hope it lasts for a long while. ❤️🙏

@mabrifravdv 5 ай бұрын

I had the diagnosis in 2013 but I don't think I'm ill. I recentste discovered "bipolar awakenings" from Sean Blackwell. It (the so-called "disorder") is more like a portal to the next level of being. Part of someone's evolution 💙🦋🐬

@kkech1 5 ай бұрын

@mabrifravdv I watched a lot of his videos, too, some years back. It definitely has spiritual aspects but makes it almost impossible to live a normal life without meds.

@mabrifravdv 5 ай бұрын

@@kkech1 I have been on an addict

@set65 3 ай бұрын

I dont know if youve ever heard of this symptom but i think it could be used to test people for bipolar because it seems to be a physical manisfestation of my illness. Sometimes, not all the time, everything in bipolar goes waves right, but anyways, sometimes when i watch the news i cry or tear up over news stories that have no emotional pull, like stories about better crops being gentecially modified, and then i notice it with more and more reactions that seem inappropriate. It's almost like the manisfestation of rapid speech i guess but you said your in the ISBD so maybe it could help, thanks for your timd

@sierrabaughman810 15 күн бұрын

So the affective titles were mentioned but then no explanation I was looking forward to further discussion but I guess there's reason for another discussion

@rachelarmstrong7453 7 ай бұрын

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@oliviermic 7 ай бұрын

I wonder how this history may help us make better sense of our illness? Any idea?

@ZadenZane 4 ай бұрын

It might help you understand it, won't help you get through it or get over it though

@michel333100 4 күн бұрын

Hi Dr. SANCHEZ, I have two daughters with bipolar disorder. Your video is so informative. Could I ask you one question? Neither my ex wife or myself has bipolar disorder. My mother committed suicide when I was 12 years old. I think she may have been bipolar. My ex wife had an uncle with schizophrenia. Is it possible that my daughters inherited this illness through genetics?

@set65 3 ай бұрын

How does a person get out of the mixed episode with meds and activity?

@set65 3 ай бұрын

Ive been in a hypomanic mixed episode for 6.5 months, how long can this last? I have bipolar 1

@philippococktube 13 күн бұрын

Some days it’s tripolar, not good and bad, but multiplies psychosis times up and down, hallus take over way beyond psychosis manic or depression, the result is so far from the real, and hallus, takes away breath, holes right through the body, that dead of frequencies, collapsing the spectrum, like waves crashing. Bipolar times psychosis is a tsunami that has and where how when it’s an end of body and presence fed by the multiple of hallus and mood when they get melted onto a world beyond life death. Searching

@iamnicholasstanley Ай бұрын

❤😊

@dragonclaws9367 4 ай бұрын

I only get hypomania. I feel less than. I can't even succeed at Bipolar. I feel very sorry for people with 1 instead of 2. It isn't easy with mine. The severe stuff It breaks my heart. Lithium is a terrible drug. ❤

@Oking950 2 ай бұрын

How to cure bipolar disorder or how to control bipolar disorder completely

@Oking950 2 ай бұрын

@huncho3572 thank bro

@set65 3 ай бұрын

Can i self medicate with marijuana to get out of or make myseld feel better in a mixed state?

@sandramace648 Ай бұрын

Also inhedrety

@jaysonparkhurst7422 5 ай бұрын

Would it be wrong to state that bipolar disorder dips its toes into schizophrenia if the cause of hallucinations is lack of sleep for multiple days?

@arricammarques1955 4 ай бұрын

Bi-polar warriors unite & empathize!

@debralittle1341 3 ай бұрын

If they knew all this a long time ago why have so many people been treated with only antidepressants? I was diagnosed bipolar in my mid thirties, twenty years after it started. And I wasn't put on a mood stabilizer until 3 years ago. I will be 69 this Saturday.

@theharmonizingfool 2 ай бұрын

It’s astonishing how few good psychiatrists there are. Antidepressants are not usually recommended for bipolar because they can cause mania. Yet doctor after continues to do this to their bipolar patients. Not to mention getting off of them can cause psychosis even in a normally healthy person. It’s unbelievable to me you had to suffer that long before you were given a mood stabilizer.

@ZadenZane 4 ай бұрын

Doesn't pneuma mean a gust of air or a spirit? Not the physical soul at all but something mental or spiritual

@Tom-eo6jy 5 ай бұрын

Van Gogh was shizophrenic not bipolar. Symptoms similar. He suffered from tinnitus.

@phurion. 5 ай бұрын

Hello how are you, is there a way to get in contact with you? Or is it possible to make a video about a symptom in bipolar that not everyone talks about which is emotional detachment, me and my ex had the best relationship ever,planned marriage and how we will live together, she was there for me and i was there for her, until suddenly out of the ue she lost feelings for me, and pushed me away no matter how hard i tried to keep the relationship, and its hard to change her mind or try to talk to her

@user-kj9ew2dq2w 5 ай бұрын

I to experienced this with my husband 25 years ago he left me but believe me life goes on..take care

@sally-kz7nz 4 ай бұрын

My BP bf does this to me from time to time. We are a relatively new couple and he's finished with me 3 x now and has no recollection of doing so last 2 times. I find when we are together everything is great but once apart he tends to push me away. Research has helped me deal with this however and I don't know if we have a long term future - but have learned he doesn't really mean it when he detaches , it's a truly horrible illness...

@phurion. 4 ай бұрын

@sally-kz7nz how long were the breakups until he came back to you and how or what did he say when he wanted to get back with you? Because after 3 months, she texted me 3 days ago saying hey idk if you deleted my munger but I had the urge to check up on you, I replied im good and she said I'm glad to hear, like I said, just had an intuition to check up on you, and all I said was "Alright" and that's it, so I'm confused

@sally-kz7nz 4 ай бұрын

@@phurion.We have been together for a year. I didn't understand anything about the illness initially and he finished with me one month in and then two weeks later said he missed me. Then twice more he did the same thing last summer - but on those two occasions within 24 hours he had apologised. It was difficult cos it was always by text which I hate but I know it's only ever when he's in the depressed state and he pushes everyone away. I have found KZfaq videos , especially Polar Warriors to be very helpful in coping, understanding as much as I ever can do, and supporting rather than judging (which I did in the early days). Wish you all the best and hope she comes back to you - if that's what you want. For me personally - the good times are amazing otherwise I may well have given up by now

@phurion. 4 ай бұрын

@@sally-kz7nz yeah I still wanna be with her but I don't know if we are finished for good, even though she pushed em away and broke up with me out of the blue and only texted back just to "checknup" on me, she didn't even text me a happy Boothbay which was yesterday so idk it feels like it's officially over but yet why did she text me, it's confusing and hurts me a lot honestly I wish she was more communicative

@Mabelliot 4 ай бұрын

i wished this included more of asian history because again, its super duper european

@jaysonparkhurst7422 5 ай бұрын

Here is my question to all of you with bipolar: when you look into your pupils in the mirror, will you be proud, or embarraded, of this moment in eternity?

@mistressofstones Ай бұрын

Excuse me? What do you mean?

@jaysonparkhurst7422 Ай бұрын

@mistressofstones I wish I knew 😅 Probably something sappy, and personal. I may have overindulged more than usual to not remember. What do you think "embarraded" meant? 🤔

@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe 2 ай бұрын

Psychiatrists not allowed to be Renaissance Men.

@evaeggen7825 5 ай бұрын

I wish he could have somebody without a such heavy accebt to read this. Being president should be good enough, how accwbt os disturbing somewhat to his story.

@mistressofstones Ай бұрын

No one who isn't a native speaker shouldn't speak on this from your perspective? That seems rather limiting...