Yes indeed..... perhaps if a few of them got shot, they'd think again.... but of course in the UK only the criminals are armed... good folk aren't allowed to defend themselves....

Travelers are only a small part of it; the problem is far wider than that. When I was a younger I knew a group of about ten lads, (all working, none of them travelers), who would regularly go out and poach, (fish and birds). most poachers nowadays just seem to be rough scally shit looking for kicks and for anything that may be worth stealing whilst they're at it.

It's amazing how those brave sabs are conspicuous by their absence when it comes to hare coursing and poaching...

Rural America isn't any different. All the crimes the police file reports on and arrest someone ONLY IF the case is handed to them in the city, are largely ignored in rural areas... not enough big money in the countryside for government to care, so there's not enough manpower to adequately police it. Criminal Trespass, B&E, Theft (often grand-theft), Menacing, and Assault are too common in many places (far above what one would expect for the population). We've called the Sherriff's office for assistance several times, and the lag between the call and their arrival has spanned from an hour to the next day lol (basically, "are you dead yet? If not, we'll get to you when we get around to it"). The state game and fish commissions often ignore calls, and in the rare case they do show up, they sometimes take the gun (poachers often use the cheap guns for that reason) and just tell the person to apologize and promise "never to do it again" lol. On public land, they are likely to cite you (because how dare to violate state property), but on private land, they don't care. You tell someone that they can't hunt your land, and they try to do it anyways, or they get permission from your neighbor, and then shoot across the property line and drag them back across. Growing up in Ohio, it wasn't uncommon to see people hunting from the road in their trucks with rifles (Ohio didn't allow rifles to be used at the time, let alone hunting from public roadways). The states will hand out a hunting license to anyone with the $25 to pay them, all they have to do is attend a "hunter's education", which having been to one... is about worthless. I've about been shot 3 times in the last 10 years, due to all the Fuds that come out of the woodwork to "hunt" aka: sit in a tree and shoot at anything that moves, AKA lob bullets all over the countryside (because most of them pick up a firearm exactly 2 weeks a year and that's it) (that's not including the poachers). Many states aren't doing a whole heck of a lot about CWD in our deer herds, and the American Bison is still confined largely to Yellowstone Nat. Park, due to a lack of any effective conservation measures from the states or Fed Government. The Fed. Excise tax on Sporting arms and munitions (with firearms, it's 11% on long-arms, and 10% on pistols and ammo) is supposed to be allocated to the states to fund conservation efforts... where are the efforts? At least Maine has tried multiple times to reintroduce Reindeer, only to fail each time because Caribou are highly dependent on Old-growth forests to survive, but not much money has been put into researching a way to produce that habitat in a reasonable timeframe. No real efforts have been made to reintroduce Elk to the majority of the US. There is no program that I am aware of in the US, to compensate farmers and other citizens for economic losses due to wildlife using funds procured from hunting licenses, so the wildlife is often looked at as pests to be eliminated. Yet when people set up hunting preserves to protect the wildlife (and the public from damages from them) and provide for them (and themselves) "conservation" organizations decry it as "canned hunting", even though it is far from it; and pop culture convinces people that it's "horrible" if a land owner wants to charge to go hunt. More and more these days, it seems the only good way to deal with poachers is to have a "hunting accident", unfortunately (especially because more and more of them seem willing to get violent in order to get away with it). Just a few years ago, the state finally jailed a guy who had been caught by the state game wardens over 6 times poaching deer on property he had no right to hunt on... and he had been caught (to no effect) countless other times by land owners poaching. Each time the state caught him, they took his equipment, occasionally they fined him. Did the landowners, who's lands are utilized by the deer he was poaching receive compensation for the destruction of the natural resources on their lands? NO. The state "claims" each deer is worth over $100,000, yet the land owners never see a dime... it's corrupt as hell, and our children are going to pay the price if we don't start pushing the issues.

Tsar, here in the States we take care on them in the States ,never to worry about them again 🇺🇸 take em to the train station also

@@wildrangeringreen They've reintroduced Elk in various states including Kentucky, Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Michigan, Arkansas, and Wisconsin. Seems they've been talking about trying in Ohio for a while.

Yep ;)

We don’t want gunfights here in the UK

Ratatata

The authorities HAVE to take responsibility and address this. It is far too expensive for landowners to bear the full cost of combating poaching. The lack of proper engagement by governmental bodies is a problem worldwide, not just in Britain

Difficulty would have been demonstrating in court that the deer at the dealer were the same as were killed (could be done with DNA if they police were willing to request it and were able to retrieve the carcasses), but more importantly that the heads and gralloch were from deer killed by that guy on that land. By the sounds of it anyway.

@@guy1234484 The deer were kind of irrelevant. As firearms license holders we are either allowed on allocated land or have an open ticket and can shoot anywhere with the landowners permission. He had no permission so was trespassing with a firearm.

@@chriswoods1558 I’m surprised they didn’t take that forward if he could be readily and easily identified from the video, but they may have decided to just NFA it with a warning. Police are so under-resourced at the moment, that’s the main issue

They question me why I want one calibre over another but don't prosecute someone who shouldn't be trusted with firearms. They are totally dis-organised. I was told to send in my co-terminus renewal 2 months early because they are under-staffed so I did. They cashed the cheque after a month. I rang them as my licence was about to expire as technically id be illegally storing all my guns. They then told me the paperwork was lost and that id have to do it again. They sent me a temporary permit which must have taken as much time to print as my new ticket. The next day a girl rings me to say that I don't need to send another form in and its with the FEOs. They could not organise a bun-fight in a bakery.

Hmm... implements to protect your land and animals with, oh my, oh my, what are they called... Hmmm a means of defence that we're legally denied here in the UK, what could it be called... Fucking stupid British legislation.

In the USA, Mr, you can shoot someone for just trespassing property, only if that situation indicates posible danger..so before giving advice, pleae learn your laws there....because even in the USA, there are laws regarding self defense, and you can be taken to a court if you just shoot someone for just trespassing property or just for passing by.The little details, will make the difference. I am not impressed by your comment.

Struggling to do everything because the Tories slashed their resources to the bone. There are simply greater numbers of key performance indicator crimes being reported in urban areas, so naturally the limited resources get prioritised there. The only proper solution is real investment in our criminal justice system from top to bottom. The courts are creaking under the strain of cuts and can’t even process the cases. It’s a total shambles.

be fair,they only get £14 billion a year to waste

@@rodneyhull9764 Spot on!, & with all the up to date technology, ANPR cameras etc they still cant catch anybody!. A keeper near me reported hare coursing on his land as it was happening. They said they will send someone out. Three days later plod turned up asking where the coursers were!! ...Tossers!!!

@@rodneyhull9764 and it’s nowhere near enough. Neither is the courts or prisons budget. It’s all very well catching all these criminals but if the criminal justice system is so unable to process these criminals and nobody to manage their sentence or prison to put them in then what’s the point?

@@guy1234484 well if £14 billion buys us a success rate of 7% of crimes solved, I think money isn't the bottleneck its just a crap service.

That's another difference between America and the UK. Firearms are commonplace on farms, so generally speaking the criminals end up hurt rather than the citizens.

Aye. I think it was in Rob Roy I learned about them.

The U.K. isn’t Texas though Jim. Shooting a trespasser on agricultural land, even an armed one, is an all but guaranteed trip to jail for murder.

@@guy1234484 REALLY? Fuck that place! Maybe you could write the "queen"? It's no one else's responsibility to protect your land, family, and self. That's your responsibility alone.

@@guy1234484 I think you're confusing what constitutes a "modern society". What I believe you meant to type was: ..."in a weak and docile society..." I know in my heart there are still some hard men walking around the UK with both testicles. Sounds like your government needs it's ass whipped again. 1776 style. (Edited for grammatical errors)

interesting idea. Island too small with way too many people crammed onto it. Every scrap of land and most waters and even some beaches are privately owned unfortunately

How very Clockwork Orange...

Or Anarchocommunism.

You reckon? I think it should be like as the gamekeeper said, a punishment that fits the crime. Should a teenager with a catapult shooting a pigeon get 2 years? should an old man with a whippet who caught a rabbit on a footpath get 2 years and dog taken away? Be realistic. 5 years for anyone using a rifle or shotgun and ban on certificates for life. 2 years for taking vehicles onto land an causing damage while poaching. And just a fine for a lone person doing the 'romanticised ideal' of what a poacher should be, which doesnt exist apparently.

Get John wicks to sort it out you would not hurt is gun dog.

There’s a reason the homicide rate in the U.K. is much lower than in the states Bill, and our police force is able to be mostly unarmed!

@@guy1234484 And the UK has twice as many rapes, more crime victims, more assault victims, more opiate use...I mean I can do this all day. If you like being victimized, more power to ya.

@@RustySprocket I assume you have some evidence for that bold statement?

It’s a sad reality

Aren’t you a kind person

@@tgsoutdoors says the people thst murder animals for "fun"

@@Andy-uf8jq if they robbed, criminals will have even more guns. Moron.

@@Gangster88232 good. At least criminals are honest about how terrible they are

@@Andy-uf8jq if you've got enough money you can kill all day . Toffs quaking coz thay might miss out on a few quid.