Best actor of that decade

Sorcerer?

Also dropped out of Deer Hunter which is crazy.

Preach!

@@paulnistor3547 I was about to say that one. My favorite Friedkin movie.

Scheider plays supporting actor to Fosse’s choreography.

I remember when I saw this film in Minneapolis in '79, the opening gave me serious chills. I don't know how else to say it, as cliche as it sounds, but damn I recall those chills up and down my spine. I've watched it god knows how many times since and it never fails to stir me.

It’s the best opening in film history

O tempo passa e aí você descobre, olhando o que se produz atualmente que você estava diante de um grande filme.

Your comment makes me think of that Mark Twain quote, “when I was 17. My father was so stupid, I could barely stand to have the old man around. When I turned 24 I was amazed at how much he learned in seven years.“

Congratulations on wasting your evening. Should have watched rocky horror instead.

I remember watching it a lot as a kid, even though I didn't really understand a lot of it.

Me, too! 'cept I was 13 or so. Taped it off HBO using my dad's top loader VCR. Changed my life, too.

show, don't tell.

Fosse used editing like a painter uses brush & paint. He painted with the sound of dancer's feet & his visuals soared because he was a natural framer. I actually still get moved by this opening, it so perfectly catches Broadway gypsy auditioning life - and death. And a New York that no longer exists.

@@JasonStevens Tell when you trust an actor’s delivery. For instance Quint’s monologue in Jaws or Dr. Loomis’ “I met him fifteen years ago...” monologue in Halloween. There are no rules.

Franco you are so right this truly is master class filmmaking this is always been one of my favorite openings to a movie.

The best movie about John McAfee.

Such a great story, thanks for sharing 🙋

Fun story. One of my favorite movies.

Congratulations that is awesome 💐💛

Interesting story!!!

Αwww that's so sweet!

Too true. Apparently it's not on any streaming site. This is why I still have a dvd player, so I can watch this movie (that I've already seen dozens of times).

Yes and it's aged better than I expected. Leland Palmer is excellent. I can't understand why she isn't more well known.

Feel it's better everytime I watch it.. since it was in cinemas

So Right! 🙂!

@@anasan00 So true! I'm mesmerized every time I watch this.

Face receiving it or face giving it?

@@MsDonttrythisathome probably the former

Well said. College instruictors coached us - fight your way to the front line, smile and dance your ass off!

I think every damn second of this entire movie is pure magic.

Well put, especially compared to nowadays when kids grow up with the philosophy of 'everybody's a winner.' No wonder suicide rates are up as they never learnt to face disappointment and failure in their childhood so the first obstacle sets them off spinning over the edge.

😂

When did they say that

@@maddalonefarms they said it shortly after this clip

My favorite line: "That's how you get a job".

@@joebarr725 And "That's how you get an oscar"

Comedian?

Hey... That's showbiz!!!

@@electrasong That's New York........cut and dry. I know someone who went there and auditioned for several months and when she came back she wouldn't ever talk about what happened. It must have been particularly brutal. You have to have a strong stomach for rejection.

@@electrasong that's not showbiz. they're usually mean. THANK YOU NEXT. this guy was nice.

Fosse really was like that. He wanted to cast everyone and was genuinely sorry when he had to cut people. He’d give them pointers on how to improve and let them try again even. He was also usually picking out which girls he wanted to sleep with.

Rohit Nagarkatti agree

With Scheider and Fosse both gone, the lights are dimmer!

Def he was great , they all were , it's a great film

exactly

Is a "fucking" edit better than a normal edit? You spoiled a great sentence with that word.

Really? Those obtrusive closeups? I don't think so. Compare the editing in The Blues Brothers number 'Think' - masterly use of small space. Ditto Robbins' 'I Feel Pretty' in West Side Story. Honestly, the editor here didn't know how to navigate a large space with glaring closeups.

@@muslit Most would consider this a masterpiece and probably groundbreaking for the time - but that's harder to recall as I first saw it as a kid in the 70s when cinema was still interesting. This 5 minutes of film set me on my career path - I am a professional editor and in still in awe of Allen Heim's work here. I "borrow" this edit frequently as the techniques used here still work. Indeed came here tonight because I'm working working on a montage and it always inspires. Blues Bros is a very different kind of movie so I'm not sure transposing that style here would be effective as this open also sets up the style of the movie as a whole. You have to consider what's happening at minute 90 when you think about the open. For me this film is the best kind of cinema as it taps into what's happening in the subconscious - and I think those close ups help open us up to the kind of impressionistic interior experience. ADDING - additionally - this is a scene about characters who are dancers, not a dance performance. We are actually meeting the characters we will be following throughout the film - so close ups are just practically the best way to do that. In think, you already know who the characters are and it's a much more conventional musical scene though also well edited.

@@jgm3465 I'm happy for you, but it doesn't change my mind about the editing here. Having never made a film before, Robbins had a more instinctive feel for camera placement and editing. He shared best director honors with Wise, and it wasn't for his work with actors.

+Alex Poor Did you know that Juliet Prowse was once married to John McCook who next year will celebrate his 30th Anniversary as Eric Forrester on The Soap Opera The Bold & The Beautiful. He is next to Katherine Kelly Lang (Brooke) the only "Original" Cast Member.

+laminage Hi Thanks for the update. I don't watch The Bold & The Beautiful, but thanks for pointing out the info about Eric.

You're welcome. Here's another eerie fact. When "Joe Gideon" brilliantly played by Roy Scheider was putting the dancers through their paces, Bob Fosse was directing "Him".

I only auditioned for "Cats" once in my Midwestern city (and didn't make it), but I would love to go to NY and audition for a Broadway production. It would be worth making a fool of myself again. At least I would be able to say I tried; and to me that would still be an amazing story.

DO IT! It's all about timing. Been there.

I guess it fits the whole heartbeat❤️ and heart theme in the movie 🎥 🍿

YEAH.... ON THE TOES....MAY BE...

Yep. Hoffman should have won for Midnight Cowboy or Lenny first, then for Tootsie. Scheider holds this fearless and flawed movie together, and he is not by any means someone you think of when you think, Broadway choreographer.

Hoffman for 'Lenny' would have been yet another nod to Fosse!

@@JeromeGentes Never saw the movie all through, but from what I have seen, the other actor who could have done it would have been another unlikely one: Kirk Douglas.

Indeed. Tough call, but this was such a compelling role. This film is one of my all time favorites, period, and his performance was fascinating.

@jlalewicz What will it be like if the Academy Award for Best Picture is always awarded to the best film of the year in any genre and art form? That would've been better. For example, if Digimon: The Movie was a blockbuster success and won all 11 Oscars including Best Picture, tying with Gladiator, it would really show how the Academy of Motion Picture Art and Science appreciate many different genres of motion pictures, not just Drama.

La isupel

Beautifully said. I am always very touched by that moment and think it is very personal to Fosse.

If you listen to the DVD commentary with Roy Scheider he laughs when he sees that guy and then explains. To shoot this sequence they put an ad out in the local trade that they were going to film a simulated audition for a film and that it was open. Open means that literally anyone, regardless of experience and training, can walk in off the street and audition. Apparently there wrre a number of inexperienced performers who came in and were shot, he was just the only one that didn't make it on the cutting room floor.

which guy

mchris65: The gentleman in the black t-shirt at 2:35

Nah anyone can be that bad.

Comically bad is the only kind of dancing I do.

Good eye

I want so very much to say that I couldn't have said that any better but the truth is that I couldn't have said it at all! Bravo!!

well put

Beautifully stated

bighairedmom ditto... it was brilliant art

Age 17, went to this movie with a date (one of the few dates of my high school years - coincidence? I think not) Neither of us really got it. We just didn't have enough life experience. Now of course I think it's one of the great movies about show buisness, and life well (or maybe not so well) lived. Just a great movie.

"The current Fosse/Verdon TV series is a weak echo of this." But seriously, though, how could it NOT be? There was a 1970's movie-of-the-week on the making of GONE WITH THE WIND, specifically about the casting of Scarlett O'Hara, and none of the "making of" scenes could hold a candle to the real thing. In both instances, you're comparing to something that is a total and utter classic. Taken on those terms, FOSSE/VERDON is still pretty entertaining, with the lead performances by Michelle Williams and Sam Rockwell total knockouts (Williams one the Golden Globe, if memory serves.) The Fosse daughter gave her highest praise to how accurate and well-done the entire mini-series was.

The opening of Chorus Line was pretty awesome, especially when all of the hopefuls came together for the combination. I Can Do That was great too. Of course I may be a little based....

Dude the ACL film is asshole. It's not hard to beat that

Ryan Alexander Music is asshole?

See this is what happens when Hollywood producers and directors don't want the input of Broadway directors and choreographers on the movies. The film version of A chorus Line would have been great if They allowed Micheal Bennett to get involved. Now look what happened.

I agree sooo much!!!!!!

The only way to watch it these days is to buy the DVD or Blu-ray

Buy the Criterion dvd/Blu Ray

Because Netflix sux.

@@ralphadamo1857 Actually it has nothing to do with Netflix. It isn't available on ANY streaming service. In fact I don't see it available to even buy on a streaming service at all. From what I read the only way to watch this movie is to buy the DVD. Why they haven't digitized it is beyond me when in this day and age even dvds are starting to get phased out. Don't blame your bias on Netflix. They cannot buy the rights to stream a movie that isn't digitized. Blame whoever holds the rights to that movie (probably his daughter).

@@donnalynn2 What you say may be true, but that does not change the fact that Netflix sux.

what a cool dad!

***** The best, simply.

I have insight about this. My editor teacher met Alan Heim (the editor of the film) and he said they only told the dancers that they are searching actors for a Bob Fosse musical and there will be a public audition what will be filmed. Who wouldn't want to be in a Fosse musical? :) That's why the scene is 100% authentic, because they didn't know they are participating in a film shooting. The scene was shot in 2 days.

^^ that. I lived with a couple of people who were in the scene. It was shot as a legit audition. Those people danced the same as they would for a Broadway musical.. some of them were Broadway performers, some were off the street, just walked in... just like any other audition would have. It was very, very true to life.

@@pruntyo This is proof that the real gold is in the comments. Thanks for sharing, what a neat insight!

Uhhh...I mean...

That WAS the audition for this scene.

Dr. Elizabeth Martin Agreed , I'd forgotten how much I enjoyed this movie.

Fosse!

Thankfully, unlike Hendrix, he tuned his guitar!

Well . . . no. Benson was and is very good. He made a very big splash when his first album came out in 1977 (I think it was 1977). I was in my senior year of high school and everybody I know just loved that record. I couldn't get enough of it. It's hard to remember any jazz album since that had that kind of appeal. There were some huge rock acts out there but Benson managed to break out anyway. He wasn't comparable to Jimi Hendrix, though. Jimi was a revolutionary player - he redefined rock guitar. The only jazz guitarist you can compare to Jimi was Jaco Pastorius. I know, he was a bassist - but a completely different kind of player than anyone else. He redefined jazz bass like Jimi changed rock guitar. Jaco also died young, sadly. So they had that in common, too. Anyway, not to argue with you, Post Toastee. Just my 2 cents.

and the guy can sing a little too ;)

@ Yup, and his scat singing is insane

@@joint2joint2k George is the man!

Lane Change - How sad :(

What was he supposed to do?

oh Danny Ruvolo? Tragic

me too !

It's fantastic!

What are privileged that you were able to work with Bob Voss Bravo to you!

Thank you, I was 8 years old and he took me under his wing and I was always working myself to blood, sweat, He was in much shock as I was, and I would hear Kiddo hurry up Kiddo, turn 18 so you and I can work together, ( he allowed. me in this scene, only like these.) That day came, he called from Washington to say hello, are you ready? I said Bob you know I am, you earned it! Im going to call your mother later surprise her, ok kiddo? She was to receive a call, that was devastating. I heard her scream in tears yelling dear god tell me this is a lie. How am I going to tell her? What I didn't know was she already knew because she was on the other phone, listening when he called, That was the first worst day of my life. I'll always have the man, embedded in my heart and mind. Im so sorry I just saw this :( Missing him @@cecimartinez1777

@@gioiaferrante How amazimg!!!so i take it you have danced for most of your life?? But just a simple fact that you knew this amazing man you worked with him what a blessing!

The 1st time I auditioned for Bob, I made it up to the song. He stopped me after 8 bars and said: “You’re a helluva dancer kid, but you couldn’t carry a tune if it had a handle on it.” As I was packing up, his assistant handed me a note with a phone number that turned out to be for Ann Reinking’s vocal coach. Underneath was scribbled: “Here’s the handle.” I don’t believe in Heaven or Hell. But I do believe in Angels.

Lemon Sky get the criterion version you won’t regret it

@@randywhite3947 Watching it right now.

There's a clip on YT that includes Fosse talking about the creation of this scene and why it looks so realistic. You might like it

@@MsDonttrythisathome Is this it? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ibuoqdR0l9Stkn0.html

My favorite movie when i was it at 16 and still my favorite 40 years later. Pure genius.

Lol I saw it when I was 11 in the theater

You forgot to mention Ann Reinking who (of course) played herself in this flick

Marc Roig Cebria

Df

YESSS ann reinking

Jessica Lange won the Oscar for best supporting actress for this film

It is a lot more than a musical...............

+Michael Ladd yes it is+too cool

That's for sure, Michael! cheers

There doesn’t need to be a reason for singing, dancing, or art. The finest musicals don’t have story lines about milking cows anyway, but with masterpieces like “Singing in the Rain”, when dancing is an expression of pure joy, what person with the slightest imagination would care if they did? Pauline Kael described guys like you best: When a really attractive Easterner said to me, "I don't generally like musicals, but have you seen West Side Story? It's really great," I felt a kind of gnawing discomfort. I love musicals and so I couldn't help being suspicious of the greatness of a musical that would be so overwhelming to somebody who didn't like musicals. How is “West Side Story”? Well, it’s a great musical for those who don’t like musicals. - Kael on West Side Story

@@srkbear1 she sounds pedantic and trying too hard to be "not like the others" by judging someone for liking something popularly acclaimed. West Side Story happens to strike gold by reaching out to more audiences than most film musicals could ever say. To attain such general popularity in itself is an accomplishment. Not to mention West Side Story's what, 9, 10 Oscars?

Wow, I've ALWAYS wondered if that was Fosse giving Bennett the middle "fuck you poser" finger. Fosse: here, hold my beer.

Bob Fosse DOES do it better! I've always felt that "A Chorus Line" would have been a better show had Fosse been involved! And as for the Attenborough film! Oh dear. Attenborough was a nice man, but he wasn't a dance director!