Critique the Community Episode 26 - Environmental Portraits

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Patrick and Lee select 20 environmental portraits submitted by the Fstoppers Community and give feedback on them. To see the full scope of images and the winner of the Fstoppers free tutorial, check out the full post here: fstoppers.com/...
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@tanaydas5012 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback, mine was the photo that had owner and an employee. Now coming to the photo, it was shoot at the last village in India-China border where the population 90 people, so taking an image with customers is definitely a great idea, but unfortunately there were no customers. So i tried posing them in a more natural way rather than making it look artificial. Thank you, loved your ideas.

@JuhamattiVahdersalo 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the feedback for the cabinet maker photo! Yes, there is a strobe behind the window to highlight the scene and emphasize the smoke. Also inside it had a fill light on the upper left of the scene angled 45 degrees down.

@Eyeofdajjal 6 жыл бұрын

My clear favourite, together with the farmer!

@zoel86 6 жыл бұрын

that photo was my favourite as well. why was he measuring the wooden spoon though?

@IconicMVz 5 жыл бұрын

by far my favourite photo of the critique. Excellent work.

@yerzhankurmanbay 5 жыл бұрын

Was the fill light out of the frame or did you photoshop it out?

@sebastianandre7459 6 жыл бұрын

Hello guys, I took the picture of the guy under the cactus so here is the story. I´m a 18 years old photographer and I´ve had the opportunity to meet incredible people like this far shepherd who lives with his mother and sister surrounded by hills and cactuses. He has spent all his life breeding goats and chickens living only with what the earth gives and even though he knows that there are so many eases in the city he would never leave his lifestyle and precious land. Thanks for the comments about the picture!

@LaughingLion4Ever 6 жыл бұрын

Well done. A very good photo.

@dramamine755 6 жыл бұрын

well, your photo doesn't really tell that story. I love his expression but everything else comes off as meh to me.

@ahmoa.4225 6 жыл бұрын

whre did you take that picture?

@sebastianandre7459 6 жыл бұрын

Lach Doch It was close to the city I live (La Serena, Chile), in a place called Quitallaco.

@geckauss 6 жыл бұрын

Amazing shot, I Wish I was as talented as you are at your 18s!

@starky65 6 жыл бұрын

The picture of a homeless man has a much deeper story than you realize. The wording of his signs (Hebrew) is showing that he is a holocaust survivor. The blur of everyone around him is showing how they are all walking past him ignoring him as they go on with their day. Not that fstoppers is to blame what so ever since I'm sure you guys simply just don't understand Hebrew. The sad part of this image is seeing how someone who has already gone through so much (the holocaust) is now living on the street. I can see this shot being for an editorial piece as well as street photography, for someone who understands the language of his posters, it is a strong image for both. If you do not understand the text in the image then I can see how someone would see it as a fairly average image, however in a jewish newspaper/magazine or one in Israel I think it is an extremely powerful and well done image. PS this is not my image. Just thought I would give an insight into the image for those wondering.

@jakeszetela6537 5 жыл бұрын

Perhaps this is American cynicism because of our awful panhandler culture, but no one is peer reviewing these signs. Every single panhandler in the US seems to be a disabled veteran.

@kevinharding353 5 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry if I too appear to be very cynical but he'd have to be at the very least in his 80's to be a holocaust survivor. Is he ? I'm afraid he doesn't to me but I apologise profusely if I'm mistaken.

@lighteningwawa 4 жыл бұрын

That why I feel for some genres of photography the supporting info is part of the work. You should always present the photos with the introduction, as they would do in a gallery.

@DragoTomianovicYale 6 жыл бұрын

It's funny how Patrick said Jody looked like a guy from a Thrift Shop in my picture, He is literally a store manager at a Kilo Store (Thrift Shop) in Paris / 25:05

@FStoppers 6 жыл бұрын

Drago Tomianovic hah! That’s hilarious

@LaughingLion4Ever 6 жыл бұрын

great capture.

@momsterzz 3 жыл бұрын

It felt like the photo of the guy was overlaid the photo of the background

@leoniddas77 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome Critique. Always enjoy this series. if I could suggest to take away the picture in picture during the critique to just show the photo with your voice over, viewers will be able to fully appreciate the work and voice comment at the same time. Thanks guys for the great videos.

@naughtyskweet6 6 жыл бұрын

I don't understand why part of the critique is what they wished the story was. Like they wish the guy was more successful and don't like that it looks like times as tough... That's life though. And capturing things how they are is environmental photography, or so I thought

@dallastuttle3851 4 жыл бұрын

Realizing this is an old comment - but you're completely right about many of their critiques as I'm just watching a lot of these videos now. The guy on the left especially tends to make very very classist remarks constantly. If a photo features an older person, a poor person, a normal person - he is likely to dislike the photo. But if the photo features a pro model or someone who looks wealthy he is very likely to say that he likes the photo. His own photo was horrible with an atrocious photoshop edit, but he still says it is good 15 years later. That's ego, my friend. It becomes even more apparent when later in the video he is commenting on the photo of the man in the woods and says, "This is a guy who could be an explorer and he's got money" instead of commenting on the lighting or the technique in any way. He actively dismisses the lighting technique as trivial, "oh they figured out the flashlight lighting trick." This is a man who consistently showcases his personal biases of how he view other human beings over and over in these videos.

@rbninetyfive4336 6 жыл бұрын

I think from the drawing and the proud expression on her face the picture has a good vibe! The abstract object's only enforce the idea she's a architect. And the black space complice with the clean look from her type of work, also pulls the focus on her as well. (Talking about the last picture) Oh and the live crop in is a welcome addition !

@LoganArmstrong 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! (Mine was the first photo) for reference i was shooting on my GH5 with my lumix 25mm 1.7

@ilyaY1 6 жыл бұрын

hey my photo is on the 18:17 min a photo of a homeless the story is that his man is a holocaust survivor bagging for money in karmel market in Tel aviv,on the sign is written "holocaust survivor kiev". hes there every day so i guess its an Environmental Portrait

@starky65 6 жыл бұрын

I loved this photo!

@vegasrenie 6 жыл бұрын

My Hebrew is pretty bad, but didn't I read "Shoah" in the text?

@zoel86 6 жыл бұрын

that's sad, especially knowing, that the german government sends reparation money for holocaust survivors and their families to the israeli government on a regular basis

@kuunami 6 жыл бұрын

I liked the photo a lot. I like how the homeless man is framed by the legs of the people in the foreground. What focal length was used?

@jakeszetela6537 5 жыл бұрын

zoel or perhaps he’s lying. He looks like he’s about 70 at most and homeless generally look a solid 10-20 years older than they are.

@nathanksimpson 6 жыл бұрын

As a cityscape and landscape photographer, I shot a lot from the tops of mountains. From the tops of mountains I almost exclusively shoot with a 70-200 f4, because everything is so far away. The next mountain is like 5km away, so not only do I need a long lens but also good weather.

@cosmohudson7178 6 жыл бұрын

Am I the only one that really disliked the blue, misty photo of the guy in the woods?

@raviputcha 5 жыл бұрын

I'e give it a 2 at most.

@yerzhankurmanbay 5 жыл бұрын

I know a lot of work went into it, but for some reason I didn't like it too (

@kevinharding353 5 жыл бұрын

Just personal taste guys. I can absolutely see how people would love it, though it didn't hit The Spot for me but still technically a great shot.

@romiemiller3093 4 жыл бұрын

At 29:10- I like the lighting. And the fence is important, but a little less of it. I'd crop just a little off the right but not too much. Just move the subject to about 1/3 from the right.

@romiemiller3093 4 жыл бұрын

At 6:09: The lights are well done in context with the dark scene. Their being i the middle is OK, as they seem to light the scene. But there are other lights. They give a sense of place, placing the subject in a specific location. But they do seem to become the subject of the photo. Maybe that was the photographer's intent.

@m.arifkaser4990 5 жыл бұрын

beautiful picture of the guy with cactus tree (y)

@romiemiller3093 4 жыл бұрын

At 46:00 If you'd spent a lot of time in the Southwest with the people who live there, this photo would fit. It's a portrait of a type, not an individual. The only thing that hit me wrong was at first glance it looked like a photo of a commercial fisherman or sailor in the middle of a desert. There is some discord there. But overall, the photographer understands the people and the environment.

@kuunami 6 жыл бұрын

"The homeless guy doesn't look desperate enough" Is where you guys lost me.

@bobtpapa 6 жыл бұрын

At around 39 min., two men in a restaurant - I think he is the owner since there is no one in the back working in the "kitchen".

@TheHummungbirdesNest 4 жыл бұрын

And if you’re really taking in the image you can clearly see his apron. Not to mention it’s kind of obvious that they are located in the middle of no where. It’s not a place that’s in decline / not successful, simply scraping by and making do with what’s available. You get that from the character of the floor.

@onegrapefruitlover 6 жыл бұрын

"Everybody's always epic to me" lmao I know that feel

@dhanib 6 жыл бұрын

Female Muay Thai photo, thanks for the critiques, the background definately needed more work.

@carolinadama 6 жыл бұрын

Sabia que era brasileira quando vi escrito Pretorian no pulso dela. E quando eles comentaram sobre o background, eu vi "Força", aí fiquei muito orgulhosa hahahah. Até procurei o nome da academia: Golden Cage, na Vila da Penha ne? To me sentindo um Sherlock. Você fez um bom trabalho e uma baita propaganda!! :)

@kevinharding353 5 жыл бұрын

Actually I really liked that shot. Her face was a little hot (burn in post?) and the concrete post was definitely an issue but impossible to PP out with the wording behind it. Maybe framing it with the intention of being able to crop it out later would have given you a better image. Regardless nice work.

@heatherb4918 5 жыл бұрын

“Just another generic homeless person”. Jesus. Of all the offensive comments you guys have made, that’s probably the worst. What is wrong with you???

@jmorris8957 6 жыл бұрын

Why is the criticism about the cafe owner about how his business may or may not be doing? Christ.

@saxophonetim 6 жыл бұрын

You can't even tell who he is? It couldn't be clearer in that Gondola shot......

@empt60 6 жыл бұрын

1, 2, 3... 3 stars, solid image.

@mpimpaophoto2075 6 жыл бұрын

A 3 to Patrick's shot? Really?...

@CJMohommed 5 жыл бұрын

Based on their criteria and taking into consideration that the image is 15 years old, that should be a solid 2!

@yerzhankurmanbay 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah they certainly come off biased to their own pictures )))

@romiemiller3093 4 жыл бұрын

At 17:00- Mama is happy. But it is over exposed. She needs to be reduced at 1/2 stop, and the background could be 1 full stop darker without losing the detail and context. Context to environment is important, but it should be secondary and not compete with the subject for attention.

@sadenb 5 жыл бұрын

24 mm or 35 mm ? What is your choice for environmental portraits ?

@beegees21 6 жыл бұрын

The postprocess on the homless guy is super sloppy. Bokeh is fake. Just look at the car behind him. It's sharp but people closer to the guy are blured? Gaussian blure, I guess :/

@DragoTomianovicYale 6 жыл бұрын

Maybe a tilt-shift lens?

@beegees21 6 жыл бұрын

You really think anyone would do street with tilt-shift? It's possible but not really plausible

@DragoTomianovicYale 6 жыл бұрын

That's very true my friend

@kevinharding353 5 жыл бұрын

I think you are looking at movement blur for the people.

@GertSterner 6 жыл бұрын

No. 9 is Santa Claus. In black & white you don't get to se his red hat. But it's there... ;-)

@fredriksvard2603 2 жыл бұрын

21:50 just a diffusion filter

@indiehorse 6 жыл бұрын

Lol at Patrick imagining the girl's shirt half falling off was a sloppy mistake that the photographer didn't notice rather than deliberately styled.

@Analogcolor 6 жыл бұрын

So who is this girl that is wearing a shirt improperly? This homeless guy isn't desperate enough! This guys restaurant probably sucks!

@dsnyder613 6 жыл бұрын

How is the first shot you reviewed an environmental portrait?

@FStoppers 6 жыл бұрын

Darrin Snyder did you listen to our critique of it?

@dsnyder613 6 жыл бұрын

Fstoppers you said"this is more of a fashiony type picture than an environmental portrait...", so it seems like you just decided to throw a snapshot of a cute girl into the mix.

@FStoppers 6 жыл бұрын

Darrin Snyder and before that I said that most of the submissions were not environmental portraits but we have to work with what we have.

@jakeszetela6537 5 жыл бұрын

Darrin Snyder and to me it’s screams snapshot. I see that same image taken on iPhones a thousand times a week by my volleyball girls. The only thing it was missing was that ‘98 date overlay filter

@readcastor2977 6 жыл бұрын

Lol. People disliking before they could have even finished watching it!

@bobfish7514 6 жыл бұрын

Dude in plaid shirt looks just like Mr. Bean!!!!!!! Rowan Atkinson

@zjdoliver 5 жыл бұрын

Looks like someone needs some sleep! LoL

@Jason-xm4ov 4 жыл бұрын

How are homeless people not suppose to be as quoted from a photo, "a generic homeless person?" You built a youtube empire called Fstoppers and you critique homeless-ness above the surface of critiquing the content of the photo itself with increase stigma. The reason why you labeled the subject as "Oh another homeless person" is because, like you demonstrated; they are under stigma. This critique is why so many today are calling them "Invisible People."

@himanshubagai7540 6 жыл бұрын

How does one submit?

@JackieDaytonaAZ 6 жыл бұрын

Gondolier

@shyamalganguly3598 3 жыл бұрын

The penultimate photo of the whole bunch of environmental shots is very different from the others in that it looks like a good cenamatic shot. But it looks like some kind of done forcefully, lacking natural mingling of the elements around the picture. The man seems to have posed and he hasn't got the feel for willingness to what he is doing and the suggestion of movement is too static as if the man has nothing to do with a big torch in his hand and he will be much relieved once the photoshoot was over. The fog seems real and I think it really is because the fog is everywhere in the picture and the wet looks in the shrubs, me thinks, leaves me doubtless about the reality of the fog. The background is a little too overexposed and I can't give the image more than three points.

@balazsbende4328 4 жыл бұрын

That rice harvester comment was quite racist to be honest.

@wtf1992lynx 6 жыл бұрын

That 30m photo is just so fucking bad, it hurts.

@martyhastings9347 6 жыл бұрын

Yes, i am a noob, and yes i have a Canon T6 (which everyone smiles at when it is mentioned) and when you guys stop the laughter, i do use it to take more family photos than any thing else. But....... i do try to take what i call "interesting" shots. Most times critique my own shots. i try to do the same with the ones you are critiquing. I don't under stand how i can be so far off from you guys. How do you learn how to judge a good photo (setting, lighting etc) from a bad one? thanks for sharing.

@norgepalm7315 6 жыл бұрын

1. Know how to take good photos 2. Know what good photos are

@martyhastings9347 6 жыл бұрын

really? thanks.

@yerzhankurmanbay 5 жыл бұрын

Get into composition, light and try to learn from old greats

@rishigunness9794 4 жыл бұрын

I am watching a movie and stopped to watch an fstoppers podcast. You guys always have the best cretics but I hate when you talk about the images before you rate them sorry.