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Ask Kevin: What Does the Bible Say about Being Born Gay?

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Crossway

Crossway

5 жыл бұрын

Pastor and author Kevin DeYoung answers a common question: What is a biblical response to the notion that people are born gay?
DeYoung newest book, "What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality?", examines key biblical passages in both the Old and New Testaments and then responds to popular objections raised by Christians and non-Christians alike.
Learn more: crossway.org/books/what-does-the-bible-really-teach-about-tpb/

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@Hosannafication
@Hosannafication 4 жыл бұрын
My situation has always baffled me and I’m yet to find an answer. I agree with the Bible whole heartedly in every aspect. I’ve had homosexual desires ever since I could remember. Never in my life have I felt like it was a choice of my doing. I would honestly change these desire in a heartbeat if I could because I would love to have a normal life with a wife and children. I’ve never cared to live a homosexual lifestyle or cared to come out because I’m honestly deeply ashamed of those desires. I despise seeing flamboyant individuals trying to shove their agenda to the public. I came to Christ 10 yrs ago and I honestly thought that these desires would go away as I had heard of people who have went on to live a heterosexual lifestyle after they claimed to have been delivered. Well, that’s not been my case and I continue to struggle with this desire. All I can honestly do is abide in Christ and cling on to his word and promises pertaining to the forgiveness of our sins and continue to persevere in sanctification. Maybe one day when I’m with him it will be revealed to me why I was burdened with this. For now all I can do is continue to trust and abide in his word. I know many of you will disagree with my viewpoint as I will most likely disagree with yours.
@dawgpoundgangsters9227
@dawgpoundgangsters9227 4 жыл бұрын
I don't disagree with your beliefs but why let a book tell you how to live your life?
@sun-js8pd
@sun-js8pd 4 жыл бұрын
are you a born again christian?
@Hosannafication
@Hosannafication 4 жыл бұрын
natalia I am a born again Christian Overall sin is sin and I just try and refrain from it just like any other.
@lover2ed134
@lover2ed134 4 жыл бұрын
It's all about perspective. Some people see a person on crack and still decide they want to smoke crack. Some people see a gangbanger and decide they want to join a gang. The point is we're all looking at the same picture but see different things. You look at a man and are attracted whereas I am not attracted. What you must realise is there are many people in your life that you are around that you are not sexually attracted to such as your mother, sister, brother which is a man, father, cousin, kids, pets, and so on I'm assuming. Being around another man feels the exact same way to a heterosexual man. It's just another person who you are close to but are not having sex with therefore you cannot be tempted by them either. The only reason you are tempted by a man is because you don't have disgust in your heart for the homosexual act much like you would if you had to have sex with a dog or a woman that looks like whoopi goldberg uhh!! Until your perspective changes or you see homosexuality as being a detriment to your well being and not something that is pleasurable you will always have the desire to have sex with men. Hope that helps in some way. ✊✌👊
@knewt1
@knewt1 4 жыл бұрын
You said it! Abide in Christ. Cling to His Word. Never stop doing those things. God is with you and will be your Strength! Don’t give up! Hold your head up! Keep looking to Him!
@aclem8246
@aclem8246 4 жыл бұрын
It is not a desire it is a way of being. Straight people are attracted to the opposite sex, gay people are attracted to same sex and to do the opposite is repulsive for gay or straight. Gays are hard wired in their attraction just like straight people. There is a fundamental difference. It is not a choice.
@brionyfrater4279
@brionyfrater4279 4 жыл бұрын
🤷They don't care apperantly. Read one of the top comments by "Mike Valenzuela" see how he is suffering to live a straight lifestyle and then read the comments below. It's all just...sad.
@ToninoterRessort
@ToninoterRessort 3 жыл бұрын
Rom 5:17. As in the first Adam ALL died, so also in Christ (the last Adam) ALL WERE made alive to walk in newness of divine (Zoë) live again. Zo everything ungodly thinking, acting etc, came through the fall. But.....God stooped down in Christ to give us back His Kingdom/Spirit/divine life for free because of love! Since we are in Christ we awaken to: Col 2:9-10. The fullness of deity dwells in Jesus bodily and YOU HAVE BEEN MADE COMPLETE IN HIM (the last Adam!) who is the head of all principality and power. Because of what God did in Christ you automatically became what you are already. A new creation in Christ. A partaker of the divine nature for free. 2 Pet 1:3-4. We awake by the Spirit to that fact and grow in to Him, by His Spirit, the normal divine nature, for free. Because of His great love for us, His creation. 2 Cor 3:18. It is the Spirit that transforms us back to the image of Christ, our original created value. For free. Because of love for His creation. Out of His fullness we have received. Good news, joy unspeakable. God came, took us in and restored/s us back to original created value to walk as Jesus. As He is.... so are we. All that is Yours is ours. The Father in Christ and Christ in us. Seamless oneness. For free. Yay! Thank you Jesus for opening our eyes for the inexpressible riches, the normal divine nature, we have received in You. That counts for all of us. Paul sums up a list of immoralities including being gay and then writes: "in wich some of you once walked". So..... they were changed! On to cases man that got healed after i spoke healing over them admitted afterwards they were gay! Who can stop the love and power of God? So i explained the above. They never heared it that way and were overwhelmed with truth, love, purpose, change and fell in love with God. For God so loved the world..... it is the goodness of God that brings man to repentance.... a life changed. Let's share the good news!
@laflower6082
@laflower6082 3 жыл бұрын
God LOVES us all 🙏🏼💯
@brandonjablasone7544
@brandonjablasone7544 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a desire son
@ellojee6207
@ellojee6207 3 жыл бұрын
It is a choice I was gay for my whole life and only ever dated men in my life now I’m not I’m straight
@miguelbayne4506
@miguelbayne4506 5 жыл бұрын
All I can say is, after having spent a lifetime struggling with gay desires and being celibate, make no mistake - it sucks. I struggle every day of my life with what I can only describe as complete soul crushing loneliness and depression, and have continually struggled with alcohol abuse, and extreme self loathing as a result of my loneliness. I've spent every night of the many decades of my life alone (I realized I was gay at 16) wishing for a partner to sleep next to or for these desires to go away. I want nothing more than to be with a man in a loving relationship, though I know wanting this is a terrible thing and sometimes I hate myself for wanting this so badly even though it's against God's design. Somehow I've persevered through this life, though it has been far from fun. I've always found it difficult to make friends in general and though I try to bond with members of the same sex in a non sexual way, I will inevitably develop a crush on a guy, and be unable to be around him without sinful desires entering my head. Sometimes I pray for the day when I will be with God and these disgusting desires will leave me.
@taylordawn1896
@taylordawn1896 5 жыл бұрын
It's okay because you were born that way that God created you to be. What matters is you are born again with Jesus in a relationship with him. You have a purpose! I am praying for you to realize that your important! Jesus loves you! True Christian's love others and spread the gospel message to the world.
@taylordawn1896
@taylordawn1896 5 жыл бұрын
@@bravelizard494 Sin is like a spirit.
@nordscan9043
@nordscan9043 5 жыл бұрын
@@taylordawn1896 Nobody is born gay, it's a lie. Everyone is naturally born with a desire to procreate with the opposite sex, it's what makes us human.
@nordscan9043
@nordscan9043 5 жыл бұрын
@@taylordawn1896 Twist not scripture lest you be like Satan. 'Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 'In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.' Romans 1:26
@taylordawn1896
@taylordawn1896 5 жыл бұрын
@@nordscan9043 Read John 3:16 and John 14:6 to be saved. Jesus loves us so much and wants a relationship with us. Try your best to be pure but it won't work because you already sinned. Jesus does not sin so he is the way to heaven. Roman's 10: 9-10 is how you will be saved! I got Jesus what you got NF song!
@Ty-wf6mg
@Ty-wf6mg 2 жыл бұрын
People really out here still thinking being gay is a choice. 😂
@calebkoomson850
@calebkoomson850 2 жыл бұрын
I know right 🤦🤦
@Ty-wf6mg
@Ty-wf6mg 2 жыл бұрын
@@fksthn3235 Yup, kind of like how straight people didn’t realize they werent straight. We’re they ever straight?
@aaronskyler2183
@aaronskyler2183 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. They are foolish.. who would choose to be gay in a homophobic society?
@michelledewitt7591
@michelledewitt7591 Жыл бұрын
It is -Satan is a Liar and he puts that in your mind~ so Then are pedophiles born that way? Are alcoholics born alcoholics? No
@aaronskyler2183
@aaronskyler2183 Жыл бұрын
@@michelledewitt7591 no its not.. i am queer and i never choose to be so and felt pain cause of it. I was born into a really really homophobic community and surpressed all my feelings everyday of my life and it affected my health really bad. So why would I choose to be so? Miss
@thomasmaguire1264
@thomasmaguire1264 4 жыл бұрын
i notice these preachers never actually tell us what the bible said 1 persons opinion
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 4 жыл бұрын
I can tell u homophobia is a sin
@tompeers53
@tompeers53 4 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri As is homosexuality
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 4 жыл бұрын
@@tompeers53 the bible never mentions homosexuality so no, just homophobia is a sin.
@tompeers53
@tompeers53 4 жыл бұрын
pastor brian Showing your ignorance of the Bible
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 4 жыл бұрын
@@tompeers53 are u? well stop.
@SuperJ1488
@SuperJ1488 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gay and my partner and I have a very healthy and positive relationship filled with love. People like this gentleman should not be speaking about topics he isn't educated in.
@josephpasquarella878
@josephpasquarella878 2 жыл бұрын
“Man shall not lay with another man as they lay with a woman” Gods law and nature’s law
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@josephpasquarella878 And when do you plan to stop cutting you hair and beard? Or does Levitical Law only count for Queer people⸮ Love is a fruit of the spirit, it is explicitly stated “against such things there is no law” fGalatians 5:22-23)
@ehxjsjd4553
@ehxjsjd4553 Жыл бұрын
I hope you and your partner do well. Don't listen to any homophobic pricks out there🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈👍👍👍
@AGPArchivist
@AGPArchivist Жыл бұрын
@@ehxjsjd4553 So everyone who affirms the view of marriage that's been held by the Church for almost 2,000 years is a "prick" by your metric?
@ehxjsjd4553
@ehxjsjd4553 Жыл бұрын
@@AGPArchivist no, anyone that is a homophobe is a prick, not everyone that gets merried.
@jmdsservantofgod8405
@jmdsservantofgod8405 Жыл бұрын
Old old guy with dementia/Alzheimer’s kills his wife……sin?
@zayzay4real587
@zayzay4real587 Жыл бұрын
So he agrees that one may be born homosexual, but does not agree that it’s an excuse to act on it
@Uncensoredtruth777
@Uncensoredtruth777 3 жыл бұрын
We shouldn’t judge anyone by their beliefs and sexuality. But humans are not born gay, one cannot understand sexuality until one hit puberty 9 years old for girls and 11-13 for boys. If your child desires to be gay at an age before puberty, the child was introduced to the idea.
@daltonnaivolasiga5389
@daltonnaivolasiga5389 2 жыл бұрын
No you're wrong. I for a fact wasn't introduced to homosexuality in our Christian household. My parents were both pastors.
@IIridesc3nce
@IIridesc3nce 2 жыл бұрын
Respectfully, you are wrong. God made us in every way because no matter what we are or what we do, he still loves us. Being gay is not a choice as god made people like that. You cannot decide what god makes of you. It is his decision and he is happy with all of us and loves us
@stephenatkison2914
@stephenatkison2914 Жыл бұрын
@@daltonnaivolasiga5389 what about school or society ? Why are you attracted to the gay lifestyle? What turns you off by the opposite sex? It is just as easy to choose an opposite sex partner or spouse as it is to choose a same sex spouse or partner. You do choose your lovers right? Or do you take the first person you see,and,that means you still choose your lovers. It is a choice to be gay or straight,the only 2 things in life we don't have a choice to do is being born, when we are born,to whom we are born and when we die. Everything else is a choice,where we live, work and play,what we eat and drink, what we wear, what we think,how we act,the car we drive,who we spend our life together with,what we do for fun,what do for work,etc... These are all lifestyle choices. Being born and dying isn't a choice and your saying that you have no choice of being straight or gay? Why do you love the same sex? You CHOOSE the same sex over the opposite sex. If it weren't a choice your parents would tell you you are straight who you are going to love and everything else in your life.
@garymoore7226
@garymoore7226 Жыл бұрын
@@IIridesc3nce A god that makes people gay and then forbids it is not fit to be worshipped.
@TheCreeperGamer100
@TheCreeperGamer100 Ай бұрын
@@daltonnaivolasiga5389 Could you expand on your experience? I’m curious to hear what you have experienced and learned. Why do you disagree with OP?
@Ty-wf6mg
@Ty-wf6mg 2 жыл бұрын
I was born gay and have a beautiful family with a wonderful husband and children and I’m so happy! What do I do?! Should I get a divorce and give the child up for adoption?!
@IIridesc3nce
@IIridesc3nce 2 жыл бұрын
No! God made you Gay. He loves everyone for who they are. You cannot decide whether or not ur gay or straight. God created all of us. And you should accept yourself for who you are.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@davidvanpatten473 Great argument Socrates.
@christservent7328
@christservent7328 Жыл бұрын
@@IIridesc3nce wrong God didn't make you gay God made men and women to be together
@christservent7328
@christservent7328 Жыл бұрын
Nobody born gay
@elen70469
@elen70469 7 ай бұрын
@@christservent7328 bro you literally don't know. i have have friends who told me that from the kindergarten they were homosexuals and never get attached to opposite gender
@Lili-Benovent
@Lili-Benovent Жыл бұрын
You have to admit that young men who reach the age of thirty without ever having a girlfriend or who haven't been in any relationships with women will always be subject to the scandalous whisperings about their sexuality by people who know them, especially if the person in question spends a good deal of their time traveling around with twelve young men, sometimes it's fair comment and at other times it's just gossip. Now how old was Jesus at the time they hung him up on a crucifixion cross?
@olanwebb2805
@olanwebb2805 2 жыл бұрын
If people were just as concerned about poverty it would be a much better world.
@neshawnbarney6584
@neshawnbarney6584 2 жыл бұрын
That part
@limogch4586
@limogch4586 Жыл бұрын
I swear! 🙄 Like there are thousands of people in the world dying or being lost in other really sinful and bad crimes and they are here in the internet spreading their homophobia on people who are minding their business without hurting anyone and being in loving relationships. That’s why the world is bad and keeps getting bad, they are blind and focused on other matters that aren’t doing damage to anyone.
@phsycopiano
@phsycopiano Жыл бұрын
Here’s the conundrum, A homosexual male Marries a female, feels extremely uncomfortable cause he’s trying to force himself to be attracted to his female wife and desperately tries to make it work, but is still attracted to the same sex, he is Miserable. Finds a boyfriend and feels a lot more comfortable and is happy, but knowing what he’s doing is absolutely forbidden, he is miserable. It’s a double bladed sword. For some people, being gay is far from being a choice, It’s more of a curse.
@nordscan9043
@nordscan9043 Жыл бұрын
🤡
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
That scenario is exactly why Queer people shouldn't be forced into heteronormative behaviors.
@taylordawn1896
@taylordawn1896 5 жыл бұрын
People can't help it when they are born that way. When they are born that way God has purpose for them. I am a Christian and Jesus died for our sins so we shall be an example of who Jesus is and love others the way they are. Special needs, brain disorders, physical disorders can not help being who they are. Jesus is love so we shall love others as a Christian! Christian people are meant to spread the message and save others telling them Jesus died for our sins, be born again and have a relationship with Jesus. This frustrates me because this is how people don't know Jesus!
@lindalagani5202
@lindalagani5202 4 жыл бұрын
Really? I had a neighbor who claimed as far back as he can remember he had an obsession for young children sexually. I still care for him BUT we NEED to WAKE UP and see 'wrong as wrong'. If we all get to pick what WE feel is good and then that is supposed to be good all of a sudden? That my friend is wrong! I believe that we should go back to the basics.....God with much love created us and also with MUCH love told us things that are good and things that are bad for us. He is MUCH smarter than you and me and it is time that we all started listening again.
@iwonthesitateebltch3319
@iwonthesitateebltch3319 4 жыл бұрын
You aren't born gay
@taylordawn1896
@taylordawn1896 4 жыл бұрын
@@lindalagani5202 More Jesus and less religion. We are not saved by our good works because we are born sinners since Adam and Eve. Have a relationship with Jesus today(Roman's 10, John 3:16, John 14:6).
@iwonthesitateebltch3319
@iwonthesitateebltch3319 4 жыл бұрын
@@taylordawn1896 god doesn't like LGBT.
@taylordawn1896
@taylordawn1896 4 жыл бұрын
@@iwonthesitateebltch3319 You don't know God then. God is love so therefore he loves everyone. God bless you❤🕊!
@thetruthofthematter8715
@thetruthofthematter8715 Жыл бұрын
People are not gay. It's a spirit
@thetruthofthematter8715
@thetruthofthematter8715 Жыл бұрын
@rashodsaul4664 He made people. The Devil made gay
@painterboy454
@painterboy454 Жыл бұрын
You need deliverance...then you'll understand that no one is born gay.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
Did you ask them⸮ Are people born straight⸮
@painterboy454
@painterboy454 Жыл бұрын
@@Grokford, when you get delivered from your demons you'll understand too!
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@painterboy454 Answer the question _painter-boy._ Are people born straight.
@painterboy454
@painterboy454 Жыл бұрын
@@Grokford, you have your ANSWER, get deliverance from the demons that influence you and you'll see Light. His name is Jesus Christ. The Bible clearly speaks to on how to respond to the likes of you in Matthew 7:6, "Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine."
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@painterboy454 So no I guess. Well one thing's for sure, people aren't born with manners,
@darrylsmith5148
@darrylsmith5148 2 жыл бұрын
My God just said love each other
@NesquikTheMan
@NesquikTheMan 2 жыл бұрын
As a bisexual man and a Christian, I whole heartedly believe he says it really well, while I don't choose to be attracted to the same sex, you can choose how you act on it, I understand theres a lot of controversy even regarding that and saying that well you should be able to do it regardless and of course you can choose to, but that's a discussion that doesn't have a definitive answer as it varies if you are religious or not. I know that it isn't necessarily a choice because then I would choose to be straight because it saves me from arguments, hate, etc. What I believe is important to remember is that the bible says to love your neighbor as yourself so it isn't to say they have to support it however it breaks God's commandment along with doesn't spread the gospel which is to spread love and God's spirit.
@empressatheism5146
@empressatheism5146 2 жыл бұрын
So people who are attracted to same sex are not allowed to fall in love?
@closethevoid8141
@closethevoid8141 2 жыл бұрын
@@empressatheism5146 it's simple, marriage is between a man and a woman . Sex is only allowed between a married couple. Two men can't be married , if two men have sex it's fornication. Fornication is a mortal sin . Repent
@empressatheism5146
@empressatheism5146 2 жыл бұрын
@@closethevoid8141 So two men and two women can live together but should not have sex. Correct?
@closethevoid8141
@closethevoid8141 2 жыл бұрын
@@empressatheism5146 as long as they aren't lusting after each other or looking at each other in a sexual manner
@empressatheism5146
@empressatheism5146 2 жыл бұрын
@@closethevoid8141 how about Christians who finger vagina and lick boobies like what you do? Is it a sin?
@John-rn1uw
@John-rn1uw 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s a combination of societal attention (environmental) but probably also hormonal/physiological. Feminine males seem to more likely be gay. Definitely a combination of nature/nurture but I would say more environmental. Human minds can be so easily manipulated into thinking a certain way.
@wouldntyouliketoknow1496
@wouldntyouliketoknow1496 Жыл бұрын
The bible does say homosexuality is a sin. Marriage is suppose to be between man and women for procreation. In God's ordained will, he wants everyone to live in peace and perfection with no suffering or obstacles. In God's permissive will, he allows obstacles and suffering for a purpose. He allows the enemy to tempt people. He wants us to overcome these test, and be triumphant. Many people have overcome homosexuality, there are many stories with the help of jesus. Identity is an important thing. If you are not firm and confident in your identity. The devil can manipulate you. You are easily manipulated by other people as well. If you identify is based mainly on your sexuality. Then something is VERY wrong. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness and should be treated as well. Properly.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
The original text of the Bible never mentions homosexuality, the Bible does not define marriage at all and childlessness is not a sin. No one’s identity is based on their sexuality, that doesn’t exist. That’s a strange fun-house mirror version of an outsider perspective. But I’m eager to hear what kind of solutions you have to gender dysphoria.
@wouldntyouliketoknow1496
@wouldntyouliketoknow1496 Жыл бұрын
@@Grokford yes the original text did indeed specify homosexuality. It literally says men do NOT lie with other men. Literally. Gender dysphoria is a mental illneaa and should be treated that way. Most of the people who transition as teens, detransition later. They were gay, not transgender. Ever heard of erik erikson and the stages of development ans psychology? All adolescents go through the stage of identity. This entire gender crap is just confusing CHILDREN. Noone should be cutting off their breasts at 15. Any doctor that does that or recommended that needs help.
@wouldntyouliketoknow1496
@wouldntyouliketoknow1496 Жыл бұрын
@@Grokford leviticus 18:22 man shall not lie with mankind as you do with womenkind, it is an abomination. Blue letter bible very clearly has that in the hebrew text as well. It is talking about homosexuality.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@wouldntyouliketoknow1496 That's not homosexuality though, that's homoeroticism, a separate concept. Also, that's Levitical Law so it doesn't really count regardless.
@wouldntyouliketoknow1496
@wouldntyouliketoknow1496 Жыл бұрын
@@Grokford stop trying to bend the bible to your belief. It's everywhere in the bible. The good news, you can be forgiven if you say sorry, even if you continue to do it. If you feel convicted, that is God. Say sorry and your forgiven. My gay friend is forgiven and he is still gay. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice HOMOSEXUALITY, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. Romans 1:26 to 28 also says this. 1 Timothy 1:10 The sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,
@alonzowitt5931
@alonzowitt5931 2 жыл бұрын
Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19:1-11), Levitical laws condemning same-sex relationships (Leviticus 18:22, 20:13), two words in two Second Testament vice lists (1 Corinthians 6:9-10; 1 Timothy 1:10), and Paul's letter to the Romans (Romans 1:26-27).
@quelquechosellc2467
@quelquechosellc2467 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully stated. God bless you and thanks.
@sadiepearson3360
@sadiepearson3360 4 жыл бұрын
What people struggle most to understand is that gay people are very normal. They are literally just regular people that only find attraction in the same gender. Where is the issue? God loves us, he wants us to be happy, and if we are not hurting anyone and only being true to ourselves please tell me where the problem is! Seriously, reply to this comment with your own opinions calmly, I would like a mutual discussion about this weather we agree or not :)
@brionyfrater4279
@brionyfrater4279 4 жыл бұрын
I wish i knew. As a lesbian reading the top comments from Miguel Bayne and Mike Valenzuela just broke my heart. Being Jamaican I am forced to hide my relationship and sexuality from people. If I was a gay man I would be jailed for 10 years with hard labor if I was caught practicing sodomy. All this because we are a "Christian country". I can't imagine being in America, Canada or any other society that and repressing my sexuality. Its my dream to get my Bachelors in Computer Science and emigrate to Canada so I can be in a country that legally recognizes my relationship just like any other citizen.😅I am worried about the weather though.
@ToninoterRessort
@ToninoterRessort 3 жыл бұрын
@@brionyfrater4279 I found it! Rom 5:17. As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also in Christ (the last Adam) ALL WERE made alive to walk in newness of divine (Zoë) live again. So everything ungodly thinking, acting etc, came through the fall. But.....God stooped down in Christ to give us back His Kingdom/Spirit/divine life for free because of love! Since we are in Christ we awaken to: Col 2:9-10. The fullness of deity dwells in Jesus bodily and YOU HAVE BEEN MADE COMPLETE IN HIM (the last Adam!) who is the head of all principality and power. Because of what God did in Christ you automatically became A new creation in Christ. A partaker of the divine nature for free. 2 Pet 1:3-4. We awake by the Spirit to that fact and grow in to Him, by His Spirit, the normal divine nature, for free. Because of His great love for us, His creation. 2 Cor 3:18. It is the Spirit that transforms us back to the image of Christ, our original created value. For free. Because of love for His creation. It is in 2 Cor 3:18. Out of His fullness we have received. Good news, joy unspeakable. God came, took us in and restored/s us back to original created value to walk as Jesus. As He is.... so are we. All that is Yours is ours. The Father in Christ and Christ in us. Seamless oneness. For free. Yay! Thank you Jesus for opening our eyes for the inexpressible riches, the normal divine nature, we have received in You. That counts for all of us. Paul sums up a list of immoralities including being gay and then writes: "in wich some of you once walked". So..... they were changed! On two cases man that got healed after i spoke healing over them, admitted they were gay! Who can stop the love and power of God? So i explained the above. They never heared it that way and were overwhelmed with truth, love, purpose, change and fell in love with God. For God so loved the world..... it is the goodness of God that brings man to repentance.... a life changed. Let's share the good news!
@no7240
@no7240 2 жыл бұрын
I agree so much with this. I realized I was a lesbian last year and it really stung. I was convinced God didn’t love me or care anymore. But one night I really had my realization. I was praying and I was apologizing and hoping God would let me know what is right, and that he would help me flip to the Bible verse I needed to hear. I opened my Bible and the verse I saw was about being strong and God standing by me. I went to bed and the next morning I woke up and all the doubt was gone. I’m ok to be who I am, as long as I don’t hurt anyone.
@Doctor1933
@Doctor1933 2 жыл бұрын
James 2:3 | View whole chapter | See verse in context And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
That. Is quite funny. An excellent example of why linguistic drift can mess up otherwise accurate translations.
@islamartin716
@islamartin716 3 жыл бұрын
God help me. I am Christian and live in a progressive part of England where LGBTQIA+ is celebrated and I will always love those who identify as part of that community. I can’t seem to find the same love for myself, for having attraction to women. These messages are tearing me up and there are so many arguments that I don’t know what’s right. I’m only 17, am I sinning by being gay?
@ToninoterRessort
@ToninoterRessort 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Jesus heard your cry. Since you cried out, it shows your heart is pure. Else you wouldn't care. It shows Holy Spirit is working in you. And the pure in heart.... shall see God. Some essential teaching that will change your life: Rom 5:17. As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also in Christ (the last Adam) ALL WERE made alive to walk in newness of divine (Zoë) live again. Zo everything ungodly thinking, acting etc, came through the fall. But.....God stooped down in Christ to give us back His Kingdom/Spirit/divine life for free because of love! Since we are in Christ (in the last Adam) we awaken to: Col 2:9-10. The fullness of deity dwells in Jesus bodily and YOU HAVE BEEN MADE COMPLETE IN HIM (the last Adam!) who is the head of all principality and power. Because of what God did in Christ you automatically became a new creation in Christ. A partaker of the divine nature for free. 2 Pet 1:3-4. We awake by the Spirit to that fact and grow in to Him, by His Spirit, the normal divine nature, for free. Because of His great love for us, His creation. 2 Cor 3:18. It is the Spirit that transforms us back to the image of Christ, our original created value. For free. Because of love for His creation. It's in 2 Cor 3:18. Out of His fullness we have received. Good news, joy unspeakable. God came, took us in and restored/s us back to original created value to walk as Jesus. As He is.... so are we. All that is Yours is ours. The Father in Christ and Christ in us. Seamless oneness. For free. Yay! Thank you Jesus for opening our eyes for the inexpressible riches, the normal divine nature, we have received in You. That counts for all of us. Paul sums up a list of immoralities including being gay and then writes: "in wich some of you once walked". So..... they were changed! On two cases man that got healed after i spoke healing over them, admitted they were gay! Who can stop the love and power of God? So i explained the above. They never heared it that way and were overwhelmed with truth, love, purpose, change and fell in love with God. For God so loved the world..... it is the goodness of God that brings man to repentance.... a life changed by Holy Spirit. Bless you. Let's share the good news!
@islamartin716
@islamartin716 3 жыл бұрын
2 Pet 1:3-4 you are walking in God’s love. Thank you for reaching out, this really helped to put my mind at rest. I know I will carry your message with me for a long long time. I wish you all the best, God bless you.
@ToninoterRessort
@ToninoterRessort 3 жыл бұрын
@@islamartin716 some more solid food ;-)). www.anewcreationinchrist.nl/english Get alone with God. Ponder upon what He did. Put some worship on. Express your thankfullness to His resolve as if He is right there (wich He is, because He is as close as the mention of His name, you move and live and have your being in Him), thank Him for His amazing love for you, for changing you to the way it was before Adam fell and become what je were created for: His image His likeness. Bless!
@islamartin716
@islamartin716 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToninoterRessort thank you brother
@ellojee6207
@ellojee6207 3 жыл бұрын
I was gay for the longest time and have only ever dated men but God helped me get through it
@donnas7323
@donnas7323 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see scripture references if anybody has them
@jehovahuponyou
@jehovahuponyou 2 жыл бұрын
FIRST, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT SCRIPTURE IS THE INFAILLIBLE WORD OF GOD???!!!! SECOND, IF SCRIPTURE WENT AGAINST THE WAY YOU FEEL NOW, WOULD YOU BELIEVE SCRIPTURE OVER YOUR FEELINGS AND WOULD YOU TRY TO ORDER YOUR LIFE ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE???!!!!
@requirementsrequired4384
@requirementsrequired4384 2 жыл бұрын
@@jehovahuponyou just give him the verses bro…
@jehovahuponyou
@jehovahuponyou 2 жыл бұрын
@@requirementsrequired4384 I THOUGHT "DONNA" WAS A GIRL'S NAME - BESIDES, I DON'T WASTE MY TIME, IF SHE NEVER ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS, THEN SHE CAN USE GOOGLE TO FIND THEM - I THINK THAT IS QUITE FAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@requirementsrequired4384
@requirementsrequired4384 2 жыл бұрын
@@jehovahuponyou you got some angry issues man
@Tryingtomakeit390
@Tryingtomakeit390 Жыл бұрын
@@jehovahuponyou brother what is your issue?
@vads4683
@vads4683 3 жыл бұрын
It's no struggle with same-sex attraction, if the christians would stop arguing about it. Argue about other deadly sins too then and most of us belong to hell when you look at all the sins. And heterosexual couple is also formed with lust as a homosexual one. If it's not, it's against people's will and they will be unhappy.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
Neither homosexuality nor Lust is a sin.
@jmdsservantofgod8405
@jmdsservantofgod8405 Жыл бұрын
Some songs make me want to raise my hands in church to worship…..I don’t think about it….it’s natural!
@viking_linguist
@viking_linguist 2 жыл бұрын
I have a B.A. in Linguistics and am now pursuing my Master’s at the University of Iceland. To those discussing this subject, I’d like to say, there are many things that are consistently mistranslated, be it intentional or otherwise. 1. The use of plural pronouns with reference to God. Many who read the English translations assume that passages like “in our image we made them,” justify a belief that God was speaking to angels or even Jesus before he was incarnate. This, however, is incorrect, as the original texts written in Hebrew utilize a plural nominative case reserved for those in positions of power. So God is merely talking about himself in the plural. This mistranslation (or rather, translation with modern English speakers not understanding the context of plurals as a form of reverence toward a king or ruler) is perpetuated throughout the Old Testament. 2. The reference to man laying with another man found in Leviticus 18. Levitican law was created during this time and served to help the Jews maintain their cultural identity despite collocation with Canaanites and Egyptians. At the time, a fertility goddess was revered by the pagans, and in order to sow good crops, they would enter the temple and have sex with the males in the temple. The Levitican law discussing men laying with other men most likely references this practice. In other words, the practice of revering this fertility goddess was the issue. There’s really no need for them to go into further detail because everyone at the time knew what they were referring to. 3. The use of “abomination.” The original text uses the word “to’evah” meaning “taboo” or “not of our culture.” This is much different that saying something is an abomination. So, I’d read in the appropriate context and translation, we could read Leviticus 18:22 as “don’t go into the temple and worship that goddess by sleeping with the men inside, that’s not what we as Jews do.” 4. Eve created from the “rib” of Adam. Firstly, there are two creation stories in Genesis. The story in which God splits Eve from Adam is quite interesting because in the original text, the sex of Adam is never discussed UNTIL the split of Adam and Eve from the same body. Adam, itself, is a pun from the Hebrew “adamah,” or ground. So the first “being” was called “groundling” in a way. When Eve was pulled from this “Adam,” the original text uses the word “tsela,” which translates twelve more times in the Bible as “side” or “mountainside.” Only in THIS context has it been translated as rib. Who did this you ask? It was first mistranslated like this in the Septuagint. Modern translators know this is an error, but we continue doing it. Now. Isn’t it a bit different to say “the androgynous being was pulled apart from its side and became man and woman?” Yes. Yes it is very different. It is different in the sense that woman does NOT come from man, but rather they are both separated from ONE hermaphroditic creature.
@mannamanoah405
@mannamanoah405 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll just discuss one of your points. In Romans chapter 1 it is clear that GOD never approves of people practicing homosexuality. The creator, has specific functions that he put in place for the creation. There’s no way around that & to misinterpret things that are obviously & visibly normal & natural to the human eye, shows that society has put strenuous effort behind normalizing insanity today. My response isn’t directly aimed at you but at majority of the collective mind of society today. Please don’t take personal offense.
@Sam-ny9tz
@Sam-ny9tz Жыл бұрын
@@mannamanoah405 Amen!!! PREACH!!!! My thoughts exactly!! We are touching and agreeing on this!!! Lord have mercy keep studying and knowing for yourself brother or sister because WOW PEOPLE ARE LOSING IT!!! GODS WORD IS GODS WORD!! I literally got sick reading that twisted explanation!! I was going to respond just as you did. So many are being DECEIVED willfully and unwillfully others are willfully and unwillfully DECEIVING others!! Absolutely disgusting and the works of the devil!!! I'm ready to go home 🤦🏽‍♀️🙏🏽❤️🫂
@leef_me8112
@leef_me8112 Жыл бұрын
Your got your information about adam and eve from an old stupid rabbi. The use of “abomination.” is correct, or possibly "loathsome" Since it is God speaking, the proper word is abomination. Please Ryan, go back to your guitar and be quiet.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
So like the English Royal we, very interesting. I don’t know if you’re familiar but in Leviticus 18:22 the phrase “as with” doesn’t appear in the Hebrew. I assume that this is just an interpretational preference but where one might expect a parallel phrasing to justify that decision instead you find two words. One meaning lie, and the other meaning bed. Which is already an odd thing but every resource I’ve looked at notes that “bed” or rather _”מִשְׁכְּבֵ֣י”_ _”miš·kə·ḇê”_ is listed as a noun. I don’t know if you could confirm this but it that is true that, according to my limited understanding of the Hebrew, would mean that the word woman/wife afterwards modified the bed to make it mean “woman’s bed” or “bed of a woman” Which would radically transform the meaning of the passage to a prohibition similar to others regarding ritual cleanliness or even a prohibition on cross-gender adultery if the word ms are interpreted as husband or wife instead of man & woman as the semantic range overlaps in those cases. I also have a background in linguistics but I’m not terribly familiar with Hebrew so I would love to hear another opinion. I’d love to believe that I’m wrong and that such a huge error couldn’t go unnoticed but unfortunately such things have happened.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@mannamanoah405​ When say something is clear you’re inadvertently bringing to attention that it is actually not clear. If it were clear we wouldn’t be disagreeing, if it were clear you wouldn’t have to say so. I typically consider Romans 1 to be a commentary on pagan idolatry and sex cults. They also used images in Romans 1 but I don’t think that the images were the problem it was the idolatry. I can’t reasonably think that images are okay in other contexts and that homosexuality is always wrong because of one instance.
@johnpalermo4466
@johnpalermo4466 3 жыл бұрын
Oh Jesus Christ we are still talking about this topic? Get over it crazy Christina's diveristy IS in fact a thing.
@AngelicPelican
@AngelicPelican 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe back then homosexuality was a choice because it says men left their wives for other men. I've grown up *religiously* but have ALWAYS liked the same sex, since like, the age of 5, when the desires began. Only to find out it was a sin at like age 16. I've gone through various procedures to change my attraction, but nothing worked. *Even prayer which should be the number one solution.* Now I don't know what to do. I wish God would talk to me so I would understand.
@afroddy
@afroddy 4 жыл бұрын
I'm feeling led to talk to you, even 3 weeks late. Sin is something every single human struggles with. No man can completely remove the shackles of temptation of sin. Because of how natural sin is to us, until the true followers of God are resurrected or we die we cannot stop temptation. I struggle with women, even after I've stopped looking at pornographic things and stopped masturbating I haven't completely shaken off my unholy attraction to women. In the same way this has happened to you. Me and you have what we can call our 'favourite sins', and these are the things we will struggle with the most in our walk with Jesus. However, know this: 1 Corinthians 10:13 - "There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." Colossians 3:1-3 - "If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God." Romans 12:2 - "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. " Additionally, please watch this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o9algqurqNbOiJs.html . Be blessed!
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 4 жыл бұрын
@@afroddy being gay is not nor never was a sin
@afroddy
@afroddy 4 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri Leviticus 18:2222 (NIV) “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 4 жыл бұрын
@@afroddy you did know this is OLD law which God said over 30 times in the NT is dead now? So how come ur still under the old law? Assume u agree to murder children who curse parents and murder anyone who has sex out of marriage as lev 20;9-10 demands? Do u murder these kids and adulterers or does ur church? Also assume lesbians are ok as they get no law....or did God lie?
@mosestheredsea
@mosestheredsea 4 жыл бұрын
Let me ask you a question how old were you when you were exposed to pornography
@talkingtobugs6124
@talkingtobugs6124 3 жыл бұрын
It’s like you were so close to understanding but took a hard turn to justify you bigotry
@NesquikTheMan
@NesquikTheMan 2 жыл бұрын
As a bisexual man and a Christian, I whole heartedly believe he says it really well, while I don't choose to be attracted to the same sex, you can choose how you act on it, I understand theres a lot of controversy even regarding that and saying that well you should be able to do it regardless and of course you can choose to, but that's a discussion that doesn't have a definitive answer as it varies if you are religious or not. I know that it isn't necessarily a choice because then I would choose to be straight because it saves me from arguments, hate, etc. What I believe is important to remember is that the bible says to love your neighbor as yourself so it isn't to say they have to support it however it breaks God's commandment along with doesn't spread the gospel which is to spread love and God's spirit.
@talkingtobugs6124
@talkingtobugs6124 2 жыл бұрын
@@NesquikTheMan but if you actually studied how the word homosexuality was introduced into the Bible you would see it wasn’t originally talking about gay people it was condemning pedophila In Hebrew there is no word for homosexuality and if you were to translate it correctly it said man should not lay with young boy but continue to hate yourself cus a illiterate pastor told you god hates something that he “made” a part of you My advice is to learn more about how the Bible was butchered my the Catholic Church to cover up there own problems All roads lead back to Rome baby
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 4 жыл бұрын
proof homophobia is a sin
@amalia_89
@amalia_89 4 жыл бұрын
pastor brian How ?
@twistytwists8742
@twistytwists8742 4 жыл бұрын
@@amalia_89 because it's wrong to be homophobic lmfao
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 4 жыл бұрын
@@amalia_89 u don't think bigotry is a sin?
@tonyisnotdead
@tonyisnotdead 4 жыл бұрын
Yah hate is a sin
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 4 жыл бұрын
@@tonyisnotdead which is what homophobia is, hate.
@jmdsservantofgod8405
@jmdsservantofgod8405 Жыл бұрын
Jesus talked about men being born without their dinky….they cant be fruitful and multiply as commanded……sin?
@limogch4586
@limogch4586 Жыл бұрын
I find that and other sexist stuff in the Bible to be very wrong. Is like they are involved and cared more about men’s body than females. Is like men is to penetrate and women to have babies, and I’m here like WTF. That is NOT for everyone. Is like a created army or robots.
@doge9321
@doge9321 Жыл бұрын
Whatever that out come is of wether being gay is genetic or not, no matter what keep them free. Yes it’s a interesting topic and yes it should be studied but it seems like some people is that community are scared of what the results may be and that it could potentially infringe on their rights.
@jamescausey1167
@jamescausey1167 Жыл бұрын
You’re only speaking to one side of it. Telling someone to not follow their desires. What about the people, which is probably a majority who just aren’t attracted to opposite sex. Are they supposed to be single and alone their whole life. To them looking at the opposite sex is the same as a straight person looking at the same sex. It’s just not an option. What do they do?
@jacobusvdmerwe910
@jacobusvdmerwe910 2 жыл бұрын
Amen ..so true ..Jesus will save..!!!!
@justinhart7172
@justinhart7172 4 жыл бұрын
If only we could understand how impactful the first several years of our lives are. We are literally sponges. Are brains are literal sponges. Think about that. Anything is possible. Life is far from perfect and ideal. And doors get opened, the good and bad. And consequences are real, for better or worse. My point, if a man and a woman are in love and raise there children with love and GUIDANCE and they dont encounter any traumatic events, they will be straight. We are not hard wired, babies are pure sponges 🧽
@ToninoterRessort
@ToninoterRessort 3 жыл бұрын
Rom 5:17. As in the first Adam ALL died, so also in Christ (the last Adam) ALL WERE made alive to walk in newness of divine (Zoë) live again. Zo everything ungodly thinking, acting etc, came through the fall. But.....God stooped down in Christ to give us back His Kingdom/Spirit/divine life for free because of love! Since we are in Christ we awaken to: Col 2:9-10. The fullness of deity dwells in Jesus bodily and YOU HAVE BEEN MADE COMPLETE IN HIM (the last Adam!) who is the head of all principality and power. Because of what God did in Christ you automatically became what you are already. A new creation in Christ. A partaker of the divine nature for free. 2 Pet 1:3-4. We awake by the Spirit to that fact and grow in to Him, by His Spirit, the normal divine nature, for free. Because of His great love for us, His creation. 2 Cor 3:18. It is the Spirit that transforms us back to the image of Christ, our original created value. For free. Because of love for His creation. Out of His fullness we have received. Good news, joy unspeakable. God came, took us in and restored/s us back to original created value to walk as Jesus. As He is.... so are we. All that is Yours is ours. The Father in Christ and Christ in us. Seamless oneness. For free. Yay! Thank you Jesus for opening our eyes for the inexpressible riches, the normal divine nature, we have received in You. That counts for all of us. Paul sums up a list of immoralities including being gay and then writes: "in wich some of you once walked". So..... they were changed! On two cases man that got healed after i spoke healing over them, admitted they were gay! Who can stop the love and power of God? So i explained the above. They never heared it that way and were overwhelmed with truth, love, purpose, change and fell in love with God. For God so loved the world..... it is the goodness of God that brings man to repentance.... a life changed. Let's share the good news!
@ToninoterRessort
@ToninoterRessort 3 жыл бұрын
We are all born in to the fall of man and we must be.... bornagain. 18 And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit. 2 cor 3:18. Holy Spirit brings forth after His own kind for free. That is why God stooped down in Christ to restore us back to original created value. His image and likeness. Godliness. 3 His divine power (His Spirit) has given us everything we need for a godly life through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. 4 Through these he has given us his very great and precious certainty, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires (the fall of man). 2 pet 1:3-4. Yay!
@justinhart7172
@justinhart7172 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToninoterRessort can’t have it both ways (no pun intended) let’s all be gay and the humanity can become extinct but it’s ok becuz Gods creation wasn’t meant for reproduction. It just is
@Ty-wf6mg
@Ty-wf6mg 2 жыл бұрын
By this logic, being straight is a choice then as well.
@daltonnaivolasiga5389
@daltonnaivolasiga5389 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe but it's always the question of why in the first place
@1trucxhondamov589
@1trucxhondamov589 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not gay. In my Church, there were or was a kid that seem to be born gay as in school, etc. My child is gay and in a gay relationship. I read the bible concerning and so far found nothing exact or specific..I as God to help me.
@MusicalRaichu
@MusicalRaichu 3 жыл бұрын
here are a couple of videos with a different point of view kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sL1ljb2lyeDNp4k.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m-CBnbF7urnWkY0.html
@debbiethompson14
@debbiethompson14 3 жыл бұрын
Look, I was raised a Jehovah's Witness and I still pray to Jehovah but I haven't been in the religion since age 14. I am now 64. I believe in morals and decency and being kind and help with to whomever I meet I also believe that Jehovah is a loving God that I pray to every morning and every night. I'm a preschool teacher and I see children that are 3 years old and are gay! He likes to play with the dolls and try on the princess dresses. She likes to play with the trucks, Legos and blocks. When I've tried on occasion to encourage them to play with the toys of "gender" they have no interest and of course I don't push it. He's meticulous about his clothing and shoes and doesn't want to get dirty in the schoolyard. Cheese only likes to wear pants and she's playing football with the boys. He loves play kitchen and cooking . She loves to build the train tracks with the boys. He whines and whines and cries when he falls down he's very sentimental. She falls down , pops right up and kick somebody's butt for pushing her. These children know nothing about SEX, SIN or in or immorality at 3. All they know is what they like and what they don't like. They learn the gender roles we assign to them because Mommy and Daddy tell them but when we have free play in the classroom, they are simply gravitating to attracts them. These children are born this way! It's not a choice. Now having said that, there may be some people that choose to be gay when they get older to fit in a group or attract attention but I truly do not believe that is ALWAYS a choice. What hurts me the most is that these children are shunned by people like you and persecuted by people like you that insist they know what God meant when he wrote those words. Well he didn't actually write those words did he? Actually, it was a man that wrote those words. Gabriel Fernandez was beaten to death by his mother's boyfriend because he thought the Gabriel was gay. God help us all ! Isn't life hard enough for these kids in this corrupt horrible world without us persecuting them to .All I know is what I feel in my heart and I feel that Jehovah does not like sin and immorality STRAIGHT or GAY okay! He doesn't like people having multiple partners straight or gay! I'm sure he despises pedophilia and adultery. I feel like people are born gay as for POPULATION CONTROL. I believe it's Nature's Way of controlling the population. can you imagine how many people we would have on this Earth if all the gay people..... in the closet or out of the closet......had children? That's my personal philosophy copyrighted DTG
@brooke4608
@brooke4608 3 жыл бұрын
A boy wanting to play with dolls and a girl wanting to play with trucks doesn’t make them gay lol
@debbiethompson14
@debbiethompson14 3 жыл бұрын
@@brooke4608 I know dingbat! I saw that among other things. Get an edumacation. You don't work with children or at least I hope you don't..... so you don't know.
@brooke4608
@brooke4608 3 жыл бұрын
SLEEP GRANDMA ASMR TALK did you just call me a dingbat? 💀 you’ve gotta be a boomer nobody says shit like that anymore LMAO no need to get so triggered
@daltonnaivolasiga5389
@daltonnaivolasiga5389 2 жыл бұрын
You do make sense to me💗💗💗thank you
@IDK-hk7pe
@IDK-hk7pe 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the Bible.
@Demonoicgamer666
@Demonoicgamer666 Жыл бұрын
Your name suggests otherwise
@taylordawn1896
@taylordawn1896 5 жыл бұрын
John 3:16 and John 14:6 is how we will be saved when we have a relationship with Jesus Christ. Jesus is the one that doesn't sin while we are the sinners. Go ahead try to be as perfect as possible but it won't work because you already sinned. Look up "The bible does not Condemn homosexuality seriously it doesn't by Adam Nicholas Philip's the medium app". Being gay is not a sin. Being straight is not a sin. We can sin when we are straight or gay. I got Jesus what you got NF song. I also recommend looking up Clayton Jennings born again. We are called to spread the scripture so everyone will be saved. Jesus loves us so much. People go to hell when they don't accept Jesus as their personal savior. Romans 10: 9-10 is how to be saved.
@taylordawn1896
@taylordawn1896 4 жыл бұрын
@Steven Irizarry Leviticus means cheating or before marriage which is both sin for both straight and gay marriage. We all have to repent straight, gay, etc. God is love. We are only saved through Jesus(John 3:16, John 14:6, Romans 10) and not by our good works(Ephesians 2:9). Are you trying to sound like Jesus? Jesus and I are one already. I am born again. God bless you❤🕊!
@Jr-yb8lg
@Jr-yb8lg 4 жыл бұрын
@@taylordawn1896 stop twisting the words around Leviticus 20:13 clearly tells you to kill homosexuals.
@taylordawn1896
@taylordawn1896 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jr-yb8lg God calls us to love everyone and do not murder is in the 10 commandments. God is love. 1 Corinthians 13:4-5: “Love is patient, love is kind. 1 Corinthians 16:14. Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. 1 John 41Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.2This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,3but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.4You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.5They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them.6We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit [1] of truth and the spirit of falsehood.7Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God.8Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.9This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son [2] into the world that we might live through him.10This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for [3] our sins.11Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.12No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.13We know that we live in him and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit.14And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.15If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in him and he in God.16And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him.17In this way, love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment, because in this world we are like him.18There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.19We love because he first loved us.20If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.21And he has given us this command: Whoever loves God must also love his brother.
@ToninoterRessort
@ToninoterRessort 3 жыл бұрын
Rom 5:17. As in the first Adam ALL died (lost the divine nature), so also in Christ (the last Adam) ALL WERE made alive to walk in newness of divine (Zoë) live again. So everything ungodly, thinking, acting etc, came through the fall. But.....God stooped down in Christ to give us back His Kingdom/Spirit/divine life for free because of love! Since we are in Christ we awaken to: Col 2:9-10. The fullness of deity dwells in Jesus bodily and YOU HAVE BEEN MADE COMPLETE IN HIM (the last Adam!) who is the head of all principality and power. Because of what God did in Christ you automatically became A new creation in Christ. A partaker of the divine nature for free. 2 Pet 1:3-4. We awake by the Spirit to that fact and grow in to Him, by His Spirit, the normal divine nature, for free. Because of His great love for us, His creation. 2 Cor 3:18. It is the Spirit that transforms us back to the image of Christ, our original created value. For free. Because of love for His creation. It is in 2 Cor 3:18. Out of His fullness we have received. Good news, joy unspeakable. God came, took us in and restored/s us back to original created value to walk as Jesus. As He is.... so are we. All that is Yours is ours. The Father in Christ and Christ in us. Seamless oneness. For free. Yay! Thank you Jesus for opening our eyes for the inexpressible riches, the normal divine nature, we have received in You. That counts for all of us. Paul sums up a list of immoralities including being gay and then writes: "in wich some of you once walked". So..... they were changed! On two cases man that got healed after i spoke healing over them, admitted they were gay! Who can stop the love and power of God? So i explained the above. They never heared it that way and were overwhelmed with truth, love, purpose, change and fell in love with God. For God so loved the world..... it is the goodness of God that brings man to repentance.... a life changed. Let's share the good news!
@laflower6082
@laflower6082 3 жыл бұрын
Amen 💯💯💯💯
@sjarnatojar744
@sjarnatojar744 4 жыл бұрын
We can’t be who we are our nature is evil we must be like Christ live like Christ abide in Christ repent means to never go back EVER Bering fruit is keeping with repentance
@ToninoterRessort
@ToninoterRessort 3 жыл бұрын
And that, not by biting our lip trying to do better, but being changed frim the inside out by Holy Spirit working affectionately in us because of His desire to bring forth after His own kind.... godliness.
@jamespatella4024
@jamespatella4024 2 жыл бұрын
All I know is I was born gay. Just like a straight people are born straight. Straight people don't have a when it hits them and they say I'm straight I like the opposite sex. Just like me I didn't have a day where all the sun I said oh I like the opposite sex. It took me almost 40 years to be comfortable in my skin. All the other years I lived like I was straight that's a very hard thing to do to live your life as someone else meaning I had to hide who I was for a lot of years. Every time I walk into the mall or a restaurant I felt like everybody was staring at me and knowing I was gay. I knew at a young age when I would wear my mom's clothes I knew it was different but I didn't know what gay was at the time. So there would be no way that that is the life I wanted and chose why would I choose a life and hide who I am. Straight people don't hide who they are they were born straight. All I have to say is until it happens to you what the hell do you know
@daltonnaivolasiga5389
@daltonnaivolasiga5389 2 жыл бұрын
You are right💗💗💗I can identify with what you're saying
@jacobgraf7284
@jacobgraf7284 2 жыл бұрын
How could you possibly know that you were born gay?! When you were 2 years old did you experience sexual attraction to the same sex (I would hope not as that would only be a sign of sexual abuse)? I believe that you never completed the gender individuation and differentiation stage of psychosexual development where the 2 year old male child is supposed to subtly disidentify with the mother and identify with the father. You said that you tried on your mom's clothing; that seems like a clear sign of being trapped in that attachment to the feminine and detachment from the masculine. An LGBTQ label traps an individual in a false identity to compensate for the internal disorganization of his sense of gender identity.
@neshawnbarney6584
@neshawnbarney6584 2 жыл бұрын
I totally love this comment. I was going to church but I don’t think I am going to go anymore because what they fail to realize is that we are all humane. We all have a heart and we all will have to die one day. So who is anyone to try and get someone else to go against what they feel? I was born liking woman and not man. I refuse to lie to myself because of the way society thinks I should live. The Bible says lying is a sin, and Ik deep down if I said I like man I would be lying. It also say that God can see what’s going on inside of the heart. This world is sick and confused and try to force its way of living on other people and it sad but true.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@jacobgraf7284 You’re being very theatrical. Children don’t have sexual urges in the vast majority of cases but that doesn’t mean that they’re born asexual until otherwise stated.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@neshawnbarney6584 I joined a Queer congregation and that’s been very healing, I recommend it.
@taylordawn1896
@taylordawn1896 4 жыл бұрын
If you want to be like Jesus, live single like he was. Marriage for gay people can have adopted children. Marriage for straight people can make their own babies. Sin is in both gay and straight marriages.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 4 жыл бұрын
but there is no sin in love
@taylordawn1896
@taylordawn1896 4 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri Outside of marriage is sin I mean.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 4 жыл бұрын
@@taylordawn1896 so if 2 men or 2 women marry, problem solved eh
@taylordawn1896
@taylordawn1896 4 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri Keep in mind we are all sinners, repent, have a relationship with Jesus like John 3:16, John 14:6, Romans 10. I hope this helps. God bless you❤🕊!
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 4 жыл бұрын
@@taylordawn1896 of course we are all sinners but homophobics activly promote the sinful homophobic lifestyle choice as if its ok!
@robi1885
@robi1885 2 жыл бұрын
The majority are born gay, have gay friends and interviewed many
@robrising7420
@robrising7420 3 жыл бұрын
That last part it sounds good but the vast majority of humanity is heterosexual and they're not having to pick up their cross and carry it they're not being pushed to such an extreme where they are celibate celibacy is not after them it's volunteered and God does not require you to be celibate but rather that's a choice such as in the Catholic Church you could ask a pastor from a non-catholic Christian faith to be sullivant I wonder how many of them would jump on that language notice no one has volunteered them to put that forth take that to a boat so that all non Roman catholic christian denomination pastors or Sullivan and it's real easy to give direction when you're not the one who feels like they feel it's kind of like a man patrolling what a woman does with her body which is what's done in the United States and many other countries but how many men would you think would let a woman control what he can and cannot do with his body oh no that would not be tolerated... I think that people were born gay or entitled to be just as happy as people were not born gay and I think there's a lot more to pick on in humanity then a small percentage of the population that is gay there are many ways at least father God and we all are perfect at none of them we all would die in our sin even the best man on Earth would die in his sin it wasn't for the grace and the love of Jesus Christ that applies to all of humanity we reach salvation to the belief and love the father God you could say that Jesus did to confront homosexuality and there are many instances the vast majority when Jesus directly addresses something and calls it by its name but yet he does not do this with homosexuality... what we have been taught by the church for thousand years has been docked that has been passed out and without question accepted as what some human interpreted that God meant for may have been a bias person but it's been passed on and passed down that it caused the gate humans this Earth great deal of anguish depression
@thomasmaguire1264
@thomasmaguire1264 4 жыл бұрын
i just want to know the bibles opinion then give ur opinion
@user-mv3dc6yu3q
@user-mv3dc6yu3q 4 жыл бұрын
It forbids sleeping with the same sex,calling it perversion
@MusicalRaichu
@MusicalRaichu 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-mv3dc6yu3q The perversion Paul is talking about in Ro1 is ancient Roman sexual practices which were unrelated to sexual orientation. This guy is disagreeing with the Bible when it says "it's not good that man should be alone" but he says that gays should stay alone. That's cruel and based on common misinterpretations of the Bible.
@ToninoterRessort
@ToninoterRessort 3 жыл бұрын
Rom 5:17. As in the first Adam ALL died, so also in Christ (the last Adam) ALL WERE made alive to walk in newness of divine (Zoë) live again. Zo everything ungodly thinking, acting etc, came through the fall. But.....God stooped down in Christ to give us back His Kingdom/Spirit/divine life for free because of love! Since we are in Christ we awaken to: Col 2:9-10. The fullness of deity dwells in Jesus bodily and YOU HAVE BEEN MADE COMPLETE IN HIM (the last Adam!) who is the head of all principality and power. Because of what God did in Christ you automatically became what you are already. A new creation in Christ. A partaker of the divine nature for free. 2 Pet 1:3-4. We awake by the Spirit to that fact and grow in to Him, by His Spirit, the normal divine nature, for free. Because of His great love for us, His creation. 2 Cor 3:18. It is the Spirit that transforms us back to the image of Christ, our original created value. For free. Because of love for His creation. Out of His fullness we have received. Good news, joy unspeakable. God came, took us in and restored/s us back to original created value to walk as Jesus. As He is.... so are we. All that is Yours is ours. The Father in Christ and Christ in us. Seamless oneness. For free. Yay! Thank you Jesus for opening our eyes for the inexpressible riches, the normal divine nature, we have received in You. That counts for all of us. Paul sums up a list of immoralities including being gay and then writes: "in wich some of you once walked". So..... they were changed! On two cases man that got healed after i spoke healing over them, admitted they were gay! Who can stop the love and power of God? So i explained the above. They never heared it that way and were overwhelmed with truth, love, purpose, change and fell in love with God. For God so loved the world..... it is the goodness of God that brings man to repentance.... a life changed. Let's share the good news!
@ReminisceNikka
@ReminisceNikka 3 жыл бұрын
Jerry Seinfeld
@zeropointnineninenine4951
@zeropointnineninenine4951 3 жыл бұрын
With Kermit voice
@levelliberation6155
@levelliberation6155 3 жыл бұрын
Laugh!!
@mikepiccolo32
@mikepiccolo32 4 жыл бұрын
You handled the subject very well.
@lifebelle5430
@lifebelle5430 8 ай бұрын
jesus himself never spoke from sexuality. was he gay hetero asexual ? nobody knows. sin in the bible has to do with morality which is not linked to jesus. morality is merely non objective and changing with time. at the best we could specify morality objectively with conscious act and well-being for others. does homosexuality has to do with conscious act and rendering others unwell ? I do not think so.
@SuperJ1488
@SuperJ1488 2 жыл бұрын
This guy clearly has not done research, hasn't answered the question with facts. In addition he didn't even answer the question at all
@Hector-xe6xr
@Hector-xe6xr Жыл бұрын
Born again is the answer! Thank you
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
So you can be born gay not once but twice. What a wacky little world we live in.
@ehxjsjd4553
@ehxjsjd4553 Жыл бұрын
@@Grokford so true my friend, so true.
@youngknowledgeseeker
@youngknowledgeseeker Жыл бұрын
First of all this guys a hero. How can anyone misinterpret Romans 1, or sexual immorality, or Paul? The Devil has forced this idea of gayness being a whole lifestyle and identity, and not just an act or a desire. It's incredible. In Romans 1 Paul says that's a sign society has flipped God the bird, purposefully forgotten about him and are in a state where God allows the society to progressively become dumber and very dark and demonic. Secondly, as he said there is no gay gene though there may be genetic factors that make one more susceptible to those desires or the influence of the outside world pushing that agenda. It is my belief that sexual attraction lies in the brain, that it is affected by upbringing and environment heavily. Biologically we are 100% born straight, literally human bodies are born designed for the opposite sex, penis's are born designed for vaginas and vice versa. Psychologically however people can become attracted to anything, ANYTHING, and we know this. Same sex, Animals, death, cartoons, children, pain, even human waste. There are a ton of sins in the Bible, sins meaning missing God's intended purpose, design and point for our lives, well being and the reasons he created us. Homosexuality is merely one of them, but in this day and age this sin is forced on people as healthy and a must. Of course people struggle extra hard with this sin psychologically because they've been lied to and told they're born that way. That's way different than thinking it's a desire that formed out of their psychology NOT their biology. A BUNCH of Christians struggle with unholy desires that they DIDNT ask for. Anger, homosexuality, wild heterosexual lust, selfishness, alcoholism, violence, tempers, lying, envy, cowardice, etc etc etc....ALL these things, Paul says, will DISINHERIT you from the Kingdom if you never repent of them. Not every Christian gets their specific unholy desires wiped clean when they convert, they can, but it's not everybody! Paul himself in Corinthians says he has to train his mind and body daily to ensure he doesn't lose out on salvation himself despite preaching it. Secondly, if you are praying for the desire to go away or for control over it, KEEP PRAYING. KNOCK AND IT WILL BE OPENED, SEEK AND YOU WILL FIND, ASK AND IT WILL BE GIVEN TO YOU. It's not what some of us want to hear, but God will answer those prayers seemingly slower for some, for some it will take much more seeking and knocking. It depends on his will and your faith what he will give to you ultimately, but Jesus gives us a good promise and hope when we truly seek in BELIEF that God hears, answers and is MIGHTY. The Internet and woke culture has become so toxic, in the guise of kindness and acceptance they actually make it SO much harder for people with psychological homosexual desires to repent or repent without feeling worthless. It's sickening! It's our eternal LIVES at stake, it's not a game or a joke. Jesus died for us, got tortured. I would imagine he must feel that if he could go through that, that he may be a bit strict when he judges and not take excuses. "Small is the gate and narrow is the way and few will find the path to life" . Also, if anyone is an expert, or truly knowledgeable about 1st century eunuchs, please let me know. Also know this, Jesus says plainly, some people suffer through things not because they're bad people, but for the glory of God, that sounds strange, but God seemingly has allowed some people to go through experiences they didn't deserve for a greater purpose they will understand later, for honor they will receive later, for a special blessing other will not receive in this life. If they only stay faithful. Thats why we encourage one another and not only berate. Edit: And what he said about finding a new identity in Christ is spot on. If you truly believed and got baptized, you were recreated. You ARE a new creation! You have been washed and sanctified. The Holy Spirit will lead you, only make sure to work with him. And forgive yourself if you fail. Get back up like David and repent, accept whatever God has to say about a matter, and move on. Recreation doesn't mean sudden perfection, but it does mean the promise of the God who created the entire universes help. It means your mind will desire the words of Christ despite your desires Strive for perfection, but bounce back up when you don't achieve it, don't let the devil or your own self hate trick you into giving up and having no hope.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
Did you know that one of the most reliable predictors of male orientation are the prenatal conditions of the mother’s womb? So people very much are born that way. And if we’re being blunt men and women are not the obvious match you seem to think they are. The average penis is double the average vaginal canal with triple the length not being remarkable and sexual stimulation is not optimally achieved via typical penetration, for women especially. If the genders were destined for one another it seems odd that they’re so mismatched. While you are technically correct that you can psychologically link almost anything to areousal via Pavlovian association. You can also make it so that seeing babies and puppies makes you angry. It can happen but it’s not naturally occurring. Sexual attraction among the same sex is not reinforced by any modern society, frequently people either intentionally or unintentionally try to psychologically link same-sex attraction to pain, suffering or guilt. And while this does hinder some people it hardly stops even a sizaeable minority. Because it is innate, if it were superimposed then you could just as easily superimpose something new on top of it but you can’t. … No one has made being gay a necessity. I have no idea where you got that idea. There are bonafide heterosexuals who are professional Drag Queens. Joe regular doesn’t have to do anything gay. … As a side note, I don’t recognize the passage you’re referring to. When does Paul say that he has to work not to lose his salvation⸮
@youngknowledgeseeker
@youngknowledgeseeker Жыл бұрын
@@Grokford I appreciate you being so polite in your response. I really do feel like there's an agenda being pushed at least in the western world of pressuring people to not only accept homosexuality but to condition them to think that it is something that must be in society and that must not be questioned morally. Basically if you don't support homosexuality you are labeled a bigot and hateful and stupid, and people are very angry and hateful towards you. "I do all these things because of the gospel, so that I can be a participant in it. Do you not know that all the runners in a stadium compete, but only one receives the prize? So run to win. Each competitor must exercise self-control in everything. They do it to receive a perishable crown, but we an imperishable one. So I do not run uncertainly or box like one who hits only air. Instead I subdue my body and make it my slave, so that after preaching to others I myself will not be disqualified." 1 Corinthians 9:23‭-‬27
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@youngknowledgeseeker I don't disagree with your assessment _per se_ but I can tell we're coming from very different perspectives. But here's where I'm needing some clarification. If you feel pressured or "forced" what then would have to change for you to not feel that way? You don't like that people dismiss your moral qualms. Okay, what would need to change for that to be tolerable? It sounds like you don't want to be in the middle of a conflict at all, which is hard to do while holding an increasingly controversial opinion. If that's what's going on, then yeah I imagine the shift is noticeable and perhaps a little jarring; but no matter what your idea is, you still have to defend it in the public eye. You don't get taken seriously just because you think it should be. You're having more of the burden of the defense of that idea shifted to you because there are fewer who hold it and criticism is more available as a result. So what you described as a push I would probably call you being on the retreating side of a culture war. It's definitely easier to have a conviction or belief when no one is challenging you but that's that hand you've been dealt. General anti-Queer sentiment has been diminishing for decades and frankly It's hard to bring people away from supporting Queer people when everyone knows someone Queer. If you think that you don't then either you've chased them off or they're very good at hiding. So you're in a position where you're going to have to figure out how important this belief is to you. What's it worth? Better yet are you going to cling on against all outcries of reason or try to make it understandable. Generally the latter is preferrable, even the former likes to imagine themselves as the latter. And for another dose of perspective here. Contrary to how it may seem, Queer people are not off the hook either. What you are describing as uncomfortable for you has very much happened and continues to happen to Queer people in a very real way. You may lose friends, Queer people lose their entire families, and maybe their jobs and homes too. I have a friend who had someone try to run him over with their car for wearing eyeshadow in public. That's an extreme case but I can assure you that the average Queer person is experiencing much more social friction than you usually do. So if you're going to try to convince people you have to be conscientious of that because other people certainly are. Especially when a lot of Anti-Queer people are apathetic or supportive of perpetuating those aggressive interactions. I hope I'm not patronizing you because that is not my intent, I mentioned that you have to do the work, because _I hadn't._ Not so long ago I was also forced into a position where I had to examine my assumptions and I ended up having to change my mind on this issue. And since then I regret to say that most people sharing your position are rabid so if you're going to delve into this you have to be more prepared than a lot of them are. Or you can bow out, like I said you have to figure out what it's worth to you.
@ugonnanwala2652
@ugonnanwala2652 Жыл бұрын
@@youngknowledgeseekerwow ...you truly know the scriptures very well and in conjunction with reality
@johannmeiring4208
@johannmeiring4208 2 жыл бұрын
I am a born law breaker. Nobody taught me how to lie, steal and just name it. Do not be kept in darkness and in captivity by a murderer and liar, satan. The Almighty Farther God , through his only begotten SON, JESUS CHRIST , can and will set you free from this evil bondage. Repent and accept HIS offer of salvation and you will be set free from anything your haert desires.
@daltonnaivolasiga5389
@daltonnaivolasiga5389 2 жыл бұрын
But why in the first place?
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
Love is a fruit of the spirit, “against such things there is no law”(Galatians 5:22-23).
@karamasika
@karamasika 3 жыл бұрын
This is what Jesus Christ said, " For there are eunuchs which have been born thus from their mothers womb; and there are eunuchs that have been made eunuchs of men; and there are eunuchs that have made eunuchs of themselves for the sake of the Kingdom of Heaven. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it." The country that Jesus Christ lived in at the time was ruled by Rome. During Roman rule eunuchs were part of their society with equal rights of all Roman Citizens. The Romans had three types of eunuchs in their society. Eunuchs that were castrated by men as punishment or they were made that way by men and placed in charge of a harem of women. Eunuchs that just wanted nothing to do with women, men and sex because they were strictly devoted to worshiping the Lord God (example the apostle Paul) for the rest of their life. And eunuchs that had no desire to be with a woman but preferred and were attracted to men. All I know is that Jesus Christ died for everyone not just for the few. At one time Gentiles were considered unclean, disgusting, perverse idolaters living perverse immoral lifestyles. The same way our society looks upon LGBT people! The Lord Jesus Christ changed that.Again I am only looking at what Jesus Christ said. Gandhi was Hindu but he once said about Christians, "I like your Christ, it's you Christians I do not like. You are so unlike your Christ." Just something to think about.
@BodyandMindfulness
@BodyandMindfulness 3 жыл бұрын
people quote that "Gandhi" quote all the time but he didn't really say that lol. I still agree with the quote though. Ive been meaning to look into Eunuchs futher and the role that they played in ancient Rome. Its very interesting indeed
@stephenatkison2914
@stephenatkison2914 Жыл бұрын
Eunuchs were the castrated priests of the Jewish synagogue and later the Catholic Church were using eunuchs as priests and cardinals.
@alonzowitt5931
@alonzowitt5931 2 жыл бұрын
It's a spirit!
@btnagasaki3029
@btnagasaki3029 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it really is the cause of humans are born inherently evil. Only with God can we stray.
@stephenatkison2914
@stephenatkison2914 Жыл бұрын
Humans are born with the sin nature in them how they respond to the urges of that sinful nature is called the free will God gives everyone to choose to follow him or to choose to follow the carnal nature of humans, everything in this world is a choice sexuality whether you are straight or gay, do you choose to like women or men or do you choose to like same sex attractions? You are born the same as every human being in the world you are born from a relationship between a man and a woman. Then you choose your sexual and life preferences through out your life,you make decisions that affect you every day. Your lifestyle is your choice,you choose to follow God or sin,you choose to love men or women or the gay lifestyle. You weren't born gay, you were born as a blank canvas,after you grow in knowledge and worldly education you begin to make choices for your present life,and your future life you choose your destiny while living on this earth,you choose your friends, and,lovers, you are responsible for the things you do in life and where you spend eternity after you die,God knows the answers to the questions he will ask you when you stand before him as judge,you can't lie to him. If you receive the gift of salvation by believing Jesus Christ actions on the cross you will be saved from eternity in a lake of fire,if you choose to follow the world and the lifestyles that the bible says are abominations and sinful you will spend eternity in the lake of fire. You make those choices.
@AaronGood7
@AaronGood7 3 жыл бұрын
Very well spoken. Hard truths but ones that can change your life for the better!
@MusicalRaichu
@MusicalRaichu 3 жыл бұрын
"for the better"!? he's promoting selibasy! God is the one who said "it's not good for man to be alone" also the australian psychological society says "There is a considerable body of evidence documenting the negative effects of stigma associated with homosecsuality, including higher rates of depression." i'm confident in the usa they're saying the same thing.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
Paul specified, better to marry than to burn with passion. I struggle to argue with that or the mounting evidence which confirms it.
@jaayr4849
@jaayr4849 Жыл бұрын
(1 Corinthians 7:2) “To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain single, as I am. But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry.”
@jaayr4849
@jaayr4849 Жыл бұрын
@@Grokford you kinda took the whole verse out of context but no worries I put the verse before that
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@jaayr4849 This changes nothing, it's still better to marry to struggle and fight with celibacy your entire life.
@hadijaMuhamad25
@hadijaMuhamad25 2 жыл бұрын
First of all no body is born gay
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
And yet they are.
@christservent7328
@christservent7328 Жыл бұрын
@@Grokford they choose to be like that nobody born gay
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@christservent7328 No one is born with facial hair and yet I suspect it would still grow no matter what the person decides.
@limogch4586
@limogch4586 Жыл бұрын
@@christservent7328I am pretty sure you chose to be a moron even though you have a rational brain then right?? Like who the hell controls who to love? You can then choose to be attracted by stuff? Think! Use your brain.
@kingkings6413
@kingkings6413 5 жыл бұрын
In old testament does say about children going be born gay ...that races of falling angels an the gaints blood of the devil children that's what I thinking becuz before Moses die he told poeple when he gone they going back to thier old way sinin against god ...
@afroddy
@afroddy 4 жыл бұрын
That is not biblical. Moses was talking about Israel being idolatrous, worshipping false gods, ignoring the Sabbath and doing all kinds of sins. Israel would forsake God again and again and be a stiff-necked people. Homosexuality was including in this, but it was so much more. Perhaps your claim about the children of the fallen angels being gay are right, but it is not biblical - do not add on to Scripture, take what the Lord has given you and will give you and run with it the most, because everything else is unnecessary. Be blessed.
@fernandocuriel124
@fernandocuriel124 4 жыл бұрын
king kings Your referring to Genesis 6 In which I definitely agree with you all the way. Historically, the Sons Of God from Genesis 6 always meant angels or fallen angels. All that change until St. Augustine came about that brought the Sethite Theory.
@afroddy
@afroddy Жыл бұрын
​@Gay Christian Lol @ you for being so angry. You act like you're so righteous and above this by going on about "the modern Church", and then sandwich it by saying he'll save the kids and thanking him. And to top it off, you made it scriptural too. I say one thing years ago and try to elicite calm discussion and I got 3 furious paragraph by a self-righteous twat. So glad i left this religion when I did.
@afroddy
@afroddy Жыл бұрын
@Gay Christian Proving my point with the self righteousness, now I can add pompous with your pathetic attempt to make me seem stupid and incompetent. All you did was point at definitions and use them for nothing whilst not getting the point of what I said. I attacked your character which was expressed through your personal and serious beliefs. There's emotions to these words, especially when it went off kilter and went on to the righteous judgment bullshit. Don't be retarded and act you suddenly felt like playing a character when you typed that. And since when were we debating? I'm just making fun of you for sport.
@fernandocuriel124
@fernandocuriel124 Жыл бұрын
@Gay Christian Thanks. Take Care!!!
@johnlewis195
@johnlewis195 Жыл бұрын
im Gay and proud
@cchris874
@cchris874 3 жыл бұрын
Who cares what it says. For people who cannot recognize the difference between dogma and fact, there can be no rational discussion.
@jehovahuponyou
@jehovahuponyou 2 жыл бұрын
YOU SAY; " *Who cares what it says* . For people who cannot recognize the difference between dogma and fact, there can be no rational discussion.". 'emphasis mine'. THUS SAITH A GODLESS INFIDEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@cchris874
@cchris874 2 жыл бұрын
@@jehovahuponyou Since the Bible was written by ancient humans, who by the standards of the 21st century, were morally way behind the progress that has been made since then, what it says is interesting but not God's word. Your words are exactly what I expect from dogma. Shouting with capital letters, INFIDEL: that is the very essence of a lack of rational discussion. Thank you for illustrating my point. I couldn't have done a better job myself.
@jehovahuponyou
@jehovahuponyou 2 жыл бұрын
@@cchris874 THE BIBLE IS THE INSPIRED WORD OF GOD, SURE HE USED MERE MORTALS TO WRITE HIS BOOK, BUT WHAT IS SAID THERE COMES THE LORD GOD. THE WORD "INFIDEL" MEANS ONLY "ONE WHO DOES NOT BELIEVE", FROM YOUR MOST RECENT POST YOU PROVED MY CALLING YOU THAT IS SPOT ON. I HAVE USED CAPS SINCE I JOINED KZfaq YEARS AGO, I WILL CONTINUE TO USE THEM, IT IS NOT SHOUTING TO ME - PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO MY CONTENT AND I SHALL DECIDE MY FORMAT - THANKS!!! YOU SAY; "Since the Bible was written by ancient humans, who by the standards of the 21st century, *were morally way behind the progress that has been made since then* ,.......". emphasis is mine. CERTAINLY A LEARNED MAN SUCH AS YOURSELF KNOWS THAT MORALS ARE ALWAYS IN A DECLINEING STATE - THOU SHALT NOT MURDER HAS NOT CHANGED, SO, PRAY TELL, HOW THEN HAVE MORALS EVOLVED INTO THE PRISTINE MODEL TODAY THAT YOU CLAIM???!!! THE BIBLE, BEING THE WORD OF GOD ARE INDEED DOGMATIC, FOR THEY ARE SETTLED FOREVER IN HEAVEN - YOU WISH TO LIVE IN THE USA, THUS YOU FOLLOW THE LAWS OF THE USA - I TOO, BUT I ALSO DESIRE TO LIVE IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD, THUS I MUST FOLLOW THE LAWS OF THE LORD GOD - WE CAN'T HAVE OUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO!!!!!!!
@Doctor1933
@Doctor1933 2 жыл бұрын
Gay don’t mean same sex this is why I like reading older bibles tell us the more truth about lies and false teachers ? King James Bible
@Demonoicgamer666
@Demonoicgamer666 Жыл бұрын
If it is a sin then yes because the bible states we are born into sin. Ps: genes have nothing to do with sexual preference.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8494487/ It has been proven time and time again that orientation is correlated with genetic similarity.
@sammyspaniel6054
@sammyspaniel6054 Жыл бұрын
In the womb a male's brain undergoes a transformation that put simply separates the halves. Females don't experience this separation. This makes females generally speaking good multi taskers and nurturers. Males develop a more linear way of thinking that is helpful with dangerous arduous tasks or physical protection of family. For example, men need to be able to cut off their emotions and feel no sympathy for an attacker when their family is in danger. Excess emotions in a time of fight or flight can be a fatal distraction. BPA found in cans and bottles has been shown to tamper with this step in the womb causing men to be more feminine and women to be more masculine. If you are pregnant STOP drinking water from BPA plastic bottles. Tin cans are lined with BPA as well. We live in a sea of chemicals. Do we honestly expect to be free of any harmful ramifications?
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
Sounds like nonsense to me, do you have a source?
@michaelbasumatary7941
@michaelbasumatary7941 2 жыл бұрын
Ur explanation is the best on the topic i have ever heard! So full of love and concern in ur eyes... Or else there are preachers who condemns strictly
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
Don’t mistake a soft voice and good intent for Love.
@Lavendeer201
@Lavendeer201 Жыл бұрын
You have cast the first stone
@donniemcsparen1540
@donniemcsparen1540 2 жыл бұрын
Well stated & explained as complicated as this subject is.
@spongy1720
@spongy1720 4 жыл бұрын
hi people! i think people should go read their bibles. it all depends if you wanna be a child of god or the devil? you must choose. god says in the bible you will not go into his kingdom if your gay. so if you feel you are gay go for it. but don't go to church thinking your going to pray and everything is okay. people read a small passage in the bible and they think they have read the bible! you can watch a movie you can spent time with family but people don't know god personally. there are thousands off churches and bibles and one true god but people disagree on who is right or wrong the same with faith if people were to find god and and I assume they are living in faith ! not under the law but faith in doing what is right speaking to the holy ghost living with Jesus they would know being gay is wrong and god is done with you. and saying otherwise would mean i'm telling god his wrong and i'm right, so then your not with god but the devil. but god said when he comes he is only going to take a hand full off his followers i wonder if he meant it literally. I wonder?
@mselvira7227
@mselvira7227 2 жыл бұрын
We can say, excuse, or whatever you want to call it, it's wrong! The bibles very clear in it. No one needs to answer your question in it, seek and ye shall find; or don't. It's your choice but....all choices have consequences ..it's up to you.
@neshawnbarney6584
@neshawnbarney6584 2 жыл бұрын
Y’all God is here
@mselvira7227
@mselvira7227 2 жыл бұрын
@@neshawnbarney6584 he's always here..
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
“Clear” Please, if it were clear you wouldn’t be saying it.
@mselvira7227
@mselvira7227 Жыл бұрын
@@Grokford good luck!
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@mselvira7227 Care to elaborate
@kwizjordan2809
@kwizjordan2809 3 жыл бұрын
Matthew 19:12 King James Version 12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. Homosexual wasn't a term until the 1800s... Hope this helps
@craigsalisbury8300
@craigsalisbury8300 3 жыл бұрын
Eunuchs for Christ...
@tristankinney9077
@tristankinney9077 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question.. why dont transgender women, who went from female to male go to male prison when they go to jail?
@notyourdoggo7540
@notyourdoggo7540 2 жыл бұрын
Trans men* and they do…
@tristankinney9077
@tristankinney9077 2 жыл бұрын
@@notyourdoggo7540 I’m not talking about trans man they’re still “man” I’m talking female who “turned” male
@notyourdoggo7540
@notyourdoggo7540 2 жыл бұрын
@@tristankinney9077 yes, that’s called a trans man because it’s someone who identifies as a man and is transgender.
@tristankinney9077
@tristankinney9077 2 жыл бұрын
@@notyourdoggo7540 so you telling me there is females who turned male that’s in male prison? Evidence?
@ramfanbland
@ramfanbland 2 жыл бұрын
What is important to realize is that after the garden mankind was/is a fallen race. It wasnt intended that kids be born blind, deaf, mute, deformed, retarded, or anything all is a result of them fall. Every person on earth from Adam until now is a product of procreation except the Christ child and imperfection cannot produce perfection only more imperfection. So if I can except a person being born without limbs why should I struggle ( other than my personal distaste) with these who are born with same sex attraction? I disagree with the notion that God created them that way because as I stated we're all products of procreation. No sexual activity no kids. Further no one ever coached me up on my attraction to women , I was 5 when them little fannies excited me and at 63 their jiggle still illicits a giggle. But I gotta kerp my passions in check and live it out in a Christlike manner. The first tenet of discipleship is self denial. Which means denying any aspect of life that's against Gods precepts. Oh its not easy but its necessary. Gay people who will live Godly will struggle but I can't categorize their struggle as more gross than mine. I pray we all get in the ship headed towards home.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
No one every coached Queer people on their attractions either. But you’re wrong to call it a flaw, Love is not a flaw. And you’re also wrong to imply that reproduction is necessary. Jesus never had children.
@austinhk2829
@austinhk2829 2 жыл бұрын
The Only Solid Answer ...thank you 👍🏾
@jesusislordforever5518
@jesusislordforever5518 Жыл бұрын
It’s called sin in the flesh. ALL HAVE SINNED AND COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD!!! We MUST BE BORN AGAIN!!!! Very simple!!!
@mark5694
@mark5694 3 жыл бұрын
CREATED GAY ? OR BORN GAY .... JESUS SAID THAT YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN. ✔
@lenapin6521
@lenapin6521 3 жыл бұрын
Gm, Matthew 6:33 States seek God 1st, We can also look in the mirror & as John 16:24 tell ask So we can also look in thr mirror & ask God whats not right in us to remove whats not right. & yes I have look in the mirror & ask God if its its something not right in me he will reveal & can remove. Romans 6:14, NIV: "For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace." Romans 6:14, ESV: "For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace." ... Instead, you live under the freedom of God's grace." -------------------- James 4:7 New International Version 7 Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil,(A) and he will flee from you.
@seantwyman9340
@seantwyman9340 Жыл бұрын
How can people still go for this make-believe crap for adults in this day and age?
@therealhenrychavo
@therealhenrychavo Жыл бұрын
Your faith in Jesus Christ is what saves you, yes. But sin is still sin saved or not. Sexual immorality is a sin. Any sexual acts outside of one man and one woman bonded in marriage is a sin. We all have sin of different nature, and can be saved by faith. We will never be parted from our sin until die. we shouldn’t lie to ourselves and say that sin is no longer sin because Jesus died for it. Sin is still sin and Jesus’s pardon is ever flowing for those who repent and believe. Look up 1 Corinthians 9 and Romans 8
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
"Any sexual acts outside of one man and one woman bonded in marriage is a sin." Scripture never says that.
@kate_fairchild_237
@kate_fairchild_237 2 жыл бұрын
Really true to the point and helpful.
@darylyeomans3817
@darylyeomans3817 2 жыл бұрын
It's a choice you may be a more feminine man or masculine women but you choice to be homosexual
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
And yet you couldn’t choose to be gay if you wanted to. Funny that.
@darylyeomans3817
@darylyeomans3817 Жыл бұрын
@@Grokford there is plenty of people who choose to that I have a cousin who a fag my neighbors are. So how is that they can't choose that they have.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@darylyeomans3817 And you can’t change, you only assume that others can.
@darylyeomans3817
@darylyeomans3817 Жыл бұрын
@@Grokfordstill try to figure out what the fuck your talking about. Was trying to understand how it is that you say you can't choose to be in gay cause there are so many who d ok choose to be gay and if you a person believes the bible God then that means everyone who is a fag is chosing that way of life I d ok understand where the problem. It's a free country we adults have the right to choose.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@darylyeomans3817 My _point_ is that it is not a choice, you can not choose it yourself. No one is choosing, that's not what's happening Your claims are ridiculous and you're acting like a jackass.
@JESUSLOVESYOU219
@JESUSLOVESYOU219 2 жыл бұрын
It really isn’t a difficult question… We all know God’s design for human beings, with that being said people who identify as homosexual should use that as an opportunity to grow close to God and they’ll begin to know that we were all truly born into sin and we all must be “born again” Society also never wants to talk about how a lot of homosexual people have been abused…
@neshawnbarney6584
@neshawnbarney6584 2 жыл бұрын
Who made you God to tell us how to live? God created everything right ?
@JESUSLOVESYOU219
@JESUSLOVESYOU219 2 жыл бұрын
@@neshawnbarney6584 umm I follow the Word of God, I never claimed to be God.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
Do we really know that? I think you’re just projecting.
@JESUSLOVESYOU219
@JESUSLOVESYOU219 Жыл бұрын
@@Grokford it’s a fact, the records ARE there. The media just pushes what they want to push.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@JESUSLOVESYOU219 Says the person claiming to know God's design for human beings.
@empressatheism5146
@empressatheism5146 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of judging them why dont u focus on ur own perversion?
@kinggarry1655
@kinggarry1655 Жыл бұрын
A man shall not lay with another man like he does with a woman
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
”Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.” Or does Levitical Law only matter when you can justify your unmanaged disgust?
@ehxjsjd4553
@ehxjsjd4553 Жыл бұрын
@@Grokford I know, what the fuck is up with that sin? Lol
@t3kscarecrow474
@t3kscarecrow474 Жыл бұрын
@@ehxjsjd4553 What is up with loving who you want being a sin?
@andrewunthank3521
@andrewunthank3521 Жыл бұрын
@@Grokford There is a difference between ceremonial law and moral law.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@andrewunthank3521 Is there‽ Because scripture never mentions any such distinction.
@velez910
@velez910 2 жыл бұрын
Birney gay has nothing to do with genetics. My twins were born the same time and treated the very same yet they are complete diffrent in almost every aspect.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
Except that that the percentage of twins with different sexualities is much lower than that of other siblings. All you’re point out is that human development is multi-layered. Hormones, and physical and social environment also play a huge role.
@edgarretana8377
@edgarretana8377 2 жыл бұрын
“The latest scientific literature hasn’t proved that gay is not a choice so instead of thinking for myself let me look at the 3000 year old instruction manual that was written when 98% of our scientific discoveries weren’t made to see what I should think.”
@leef_me8112
@leef_me8112 Жыл бұрын
The God that created YOU, is not one day older than when He inspired that 3000 year old instruction manual. Second by second, he knows everything about you. How many hairs on your head, how many red blood cells. He wants to know you personally and you to know him. But you don't want to know Him.
@ehxjsjd4553
@ehxjsjd4553 Жыл бұрын
@@leef_me8112 yah, cause from what I seen he's a homophobic sadistic dickhead with his head up his ass.
@leef_me8112
@leef_me8112 Жыл бұрын
@@ehxjsjd4553 Wow, you gotta lotta issues. Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. Almost like James 3:9-10, except you reversed it.
@godfirst7667
@godfirst7667 Жыл бұрын
TO CALL THE ALMIGHTY GOD A LIAR TO HIS FACE, AND TO DECEIVE MANY. IS BLASPHEMY AND YOU'RE COMMENTING TREASON
@cherryhatesyou8153
@cherryhatesyou8153 3 жыл бұрын
Me who is a bisexual christian : ,':)
@benjaminporter2574
@benjaminporter2574 3 жыл бұрын
Me as a homosexual catholic
@Innocent_starr
@Innocent_starr 3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminporter2574 SAMEEE IM BI 💀
@readwbeee95
@readwbeee95 3 жыл бұрын
@jehovahuponyou
@jehovahuponyou 2 жыл бұрын
HERE WE HAVE FOUR FOOLS WHO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HELL IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@cherryhatesyou8153
@cherryhatesyou8153 2 жыл бұрын
Guys I lied im a straight
@Mary-lo2dj
@Mary-lo2dj 3 жыл бұрын
God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve .
@karamasika
@karamasika 3 жыл бұрын
Be careful. You may reap what you sow. Besides can you think of something original and not steal someone else lines!
@Mary-lo2dj
@Mary-lo2dj 3 жыл бұрын
Boom bye bye batty bwoiii
@Mary-lo2dj
@Mary-lo2dj 3 жыл бұрын
God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. - Albert Einstein
@BodyandMindfulness
@BodyandMindfulness 3 жыл бұрын
ew dont make me cringe
@yoxrslxt
@yoxrslxt 3 жыл бұрын
God disagrees
@jasonwece2528
@jasonwece2528 Жыл бұрын
It’s not difficult at all. It’s a sin and a choice. The Bible is clear on homosexuality
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
That’s something you tell yourself to allay the fear of uncertainty. The Bible never even mentions homosexuality in the original text and it rarely mentions homoeroticism. “Clear” is just an assumption with the veneer of objectivity.
@jasonwece2528
@jasonwece2528 Жыл бұрын
@@Grokford actually he called it an abomination and destroyed sodom and gommarah because of it. It refers to it many times actually.
@Grokford
@Grokford Жыл бұрын
@@jasonwece2528 Homoeroticism is not homosexuality. "Abomination" is a mistranslation that's been removed from most major English translations. Improper animal sacrifice is also an "abomination", how fortunate then that we do not follow the Law.
@limogch4586
@limogch4586 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonwece2528they were destroyed because of orgy, lust, violations, pedophilia, and zero hospitality not because they were all men. And as for abomination so it is to be closed to a pig or eat it, and im pretty sure many Christians eat pigs 🙃
@CorwinJHarris
@CorwinJHarris Жыл бұрын
👏🏾I JUST figured that before I watched this mannn🫱🏾‍🫲🏼
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