No one is invalidating those people, in fact if you watched namention pa nga ‘there are other other fitters out there who do a beautiful job’ Also for the Ilagan brothers, they started with retul but now they do not rely much anymore on fancy computers and gadgets pag nagfifit sila. Bottomline is may kanya kanya silang style, school of thought and market which people should understand. Hirap satin eh daming maritess na mahilig gumawa ng issue at pagsabungin ang iba :)

@@ramredx No, sinabi ni CRZ na yung bikefitting instruments and technologies na ginagamit ng ibang bikefitters takes so much time and matagal ito isetup. Sinabi din niya na ung bikefitting method nila ay hindi accurate and hindi din ina-address yung problem ng rider and mas superior ung method ng crz, biomechanics, biophysics etc na nalalaman niya. Come to think of it, kung superior ang method ng CRZ then bakit ang dami nagrereklamo sa services niya? Tapos sina Fluid Fit and Forward Motion ay walang natatanggap na reklamo, lahat ng customers nila ay satisfied and that is a fact you can't deny. Kaya pala yung mga Professional teams sa Ronda Pilipinas ay kay sir Mito and Sir Fred nagpapa bikefit. Si Sir Fred Forward Motion bike fitter din yan ng isang international team sa tour de france, why? Kasi UCI certified and marunong sila magbike fit unlike CRZ na ang credentials ay "lived the life". Truth be told.

@@mattdevilla7184 Hi Matt, may you share with us your personal bike fitting experience with other bikefitters so we can learn more? because I know people who did get bikefitted last time with one of the Ilagan brothers and know they have issues with the fit. solution? try other bike fitters available. If one does not work for you then feel free to try other bikefitters too. Nothing wrong with that. for me kasi natuwa ako kay CRZ and I am pretty satisfied with my fit. So I don't see any reason to spend more money and wait such a long time for another fitter's schedule.

Matt De Villa I am not an expert in the field pero hindi ko pa ata narinig or nabasa na UCI has jurisdiction sa bike fitting industry. Anyway I remember watching a video clip and sinabi rin mismo ni Fred na dumating sa point na hindi na siya masyado gumagamit ng computer kasi nga it does not address directly yun needs ni clients; position looks good on computer pero not comfortable or not happy. So ano ibig sabihin nun? Gadgets and stuff is good and helpful no question about that pero at the end of the day mahalaga parin yun human factor and satisfaction ng client. Kung may reklamo man, hindi naman siguro ibig sabihin nun palpak na lahat, kung perfect pala lahat ng bike fitters di sana wala na refitting (this applies to all). Mahirap ho ata sabihin na among hundreds of people fitted ni isa walang certain amount of discomfort after their bikefit. Remember also hindi one time thing ang bikefitting, pag magkaroon ka ng health issue, accident or pag improve ka you will need to be refitted to a better position and the cycle continues. And again sir sabi ko nga iba-iba sila ng target market so hindi dapat issue na kung yun mga pro and elite athletes eh sa iba.

Hello, I just want to speak up regarding my OWN experience. I was bike fitted by coach, which was actually just a bonus to his biomechanics service. I must say, I'm very satisfied with it, because I felt more in control with my bike(therefore eliminating my fear of downhills), and wala na sumasakit sa shoulders and neck ko. We respect other bike fitters, certified or not, and I don't think he has mentioned anything that invalidates other bike fitters especially certified ones (correct me if im wrong). Here's my two cents tho: it is very unfair to call it a scam just because coach Leian doesn't have certification(s). I have been a Java developer for more than 10 years, and I don't have a certification from Oracle. But does it make me less qualified? Given the compensation I receive and the track record I have, I don't think so. You wouldn't call me a scammer, would you? I hope not, because I have been legally employed by companies who recognize my ability due to my decade-long experience. Thank you and have a great day 🙏 - Janelle

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Don't be fooled sir, crz is not a certified bike fitter and hindi siya marunong talaga. If his bikefitting method is so damn good then bakit ang dami ng nagcocomplain about his services samantalang kay Fluid Fot and Forward Motion walang nagcocomplain kahit isa? Diba? Tapos scam ung custom frames niya, hindi siya ang nagdesign nun. Nag-grab pa siya ng video clipnsa ibang youtuber para kunwari nag cucustom siya ng frame.

@@mattdevilla7184 Hi sir, I appreciate your opinion. Again, I’m not a CRZ member. But I do ride with them pag nakakasabay ko sila Tommy in both Clark and MOA. While I do think mahal ang services nila, Coach Cruz was able to explain dito sa video na it’s more than just bike fitting. I have friends and even relatives na nasa community nila and good words din nasasabi. No one is forcing us to join them if we think mahal masyado ang services niya. But if other people wants to join them because they can either afford or talagang gusto maging community member, then wala rin tayo masasabi dapat doon.

@@mattdevilla7184 I wish you had the ability and the opportunity to see what we have all experienced! You see all you are stating is what some dumbass on TikTok is saying who just so happens to be best friends with Mito …and the comments of 5 former CRZ members out of hundreds that decided to leave to focus on pure racing and not a community. This is where everyone gets messed up! It’s true bike fitting is easy and even Mito and Fredrick use less and less technology to do their fittings…why…could it be that after hundreds maybe even thousands they have to realize most riders have very similar or same issues! So of course that becomes easier to address. The same is true here at CRZ and I have personally witnessed dozens of sessions where for the most part the same issues are addressed as much as can be done without a custom bike. As far as fake bike or knock off sorry bro I’ve seen the bill of laiding from the manufacturer that IS in Germany so that argument is definitely BS…my point is this…. before you go claiming things that are false, lies, or misrepresentations you should for yourself know the facts! I am here on the inside and there are no secrets no bait and switch no BS…just good vibes, positive people and riders who get stronger everyday!!! If you really really want to know the truth come ride with us and you will see just how wrong those other people are…or you can keep re-stating what others have said just to glorify themselves! Who’s more likely to be wrong the five butt hurt people or the hundreds that are still in CRZ???? Easy question = Easy answer …..but for all we know this is your alias and you are not who you say you are! I hope I’m wrong and I hope you will come ride with us-I will personally introduce you to the real CRZ! #tankapproved

@@tommythetankcrzcntrl LOL unlike CRZ, Mito and Fredrick also bikefits professional riders and so far has ZERO complaints! Compared to CRZ where a lot of riders are complaining about his services, what a joke. Even the pros dont approve CRZ' method.

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