CS:GO Map Making Isn't Free

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3kliksphilip

4 жыл бұрын

If you want to make maps for CS:GO, but haven't bought the game, I've got some bad news for you. $15 of bad news.
Proof a non-prime, free account can upload maps to the workshop: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2041503307
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@rosuav
@rosuav 4 жыл бұрын
I have many questions about that fish tank. Most importantly... whose glorious idea was it to create that spectacular visual pun?
@thomastakeshita4979
@thomastakeshita4979 4 жыл бұрын
I think it was philip's idea
@swizzler
@swizzler 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomastakeshita4979 Could of been fart master
@jondycz
@jondycz 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe... VeXxSie?
@AliceAttentionWhore
@AliceAttentionWhore 4 жыл бұрын
What is the pun?
@rosuav
@rosuav 4 жыл бұрын
@@AliceAttentionWhore It looks and acts like an armored vehicle. A tank. So it's ... a fishtank.
@derous
@derous 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised the situation isn't reversed. That publishing and voting is for the people who own the game and creating on Hammer is for everyone.
@BossuJmek2k18
@BossuJmek2k18 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that solve all the problems? I mean people could make maps for fun, and if they like it i feel it is kind of logic that they will buy the game to be able to publish. This way we would see less self promoting bots and more maps made by people who enjoy the process.
@fatdude2763
@fatdude2763 4 жыл бұрын
@@BossuJmek2k18 Maybe.
@blackembers7887
@blackembers7887 4 жыл бұрын
That's assuming that it's the workshop that's the issue, which it cant be because you can still publish on the workshop for free apprently. So it may be some other unknown reason that valve won't want to share, or maybe they have all their money so they don't care at this point.
@RipScaper
@RipScaper 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be worse than paying for mods, that's for sure.
@therealb888
@therealb888 4 жыл бұрын
Ikr valve is such a dirty company.
@christopherstein2024
@christopherstein2024 4 жыл бұрын
Okey. I need the movie with that giant fish.
@yeetleslaw8529
@yeetleslaw8529 4 жыл бұрын
It's called "big fish" Good movie btw
@Jamstroxian
@Jamstroxian 4 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/frCbhc11krbec3k.html It’s also in the end screen
@nekorisakirisame1323
@nekorisakirisame1323 4 жыл бұрын
Just for 15$ i could make a device that would launch 90kg stone over 300 meter to crush the walls of my enemies?
@user-it6jd1sb6k
@user-it6jd1sb6k 4 жыл бұрын
yes.
@corey5894
@corey5894 4 жыл бұрын
yes.
@Pacca64
@Pacca64 4 жыл бұрын
You can do that easily in any other source game though. IIRC, TF2s' hammer editor is available from the get go for free, and lets you do the same thing.
@terner1234
@terner1234 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pacca64 wait, it's a seperate editor?
@udese730
@udese730 4 жыл бұрын
@@terner1234 technically it's the same but not the same version, you should use the one bundled with your game of choice anyway
@nikhilmink
@nikhilmink 4 жыл бұрын
While most people have the money to buy the editor, I think this will stop people who don't know whether or not they'd get into map making. The barrier might stop everyone who is new to CSGO map making while being a non-issue to those who already have experience.
@NKorru
@NKorru Жыл бұрын
Yeah because you can always use Hammer++ and Crowbar.
@Peastable
@Peastable Жыл бұрын
If you want to try out mapping for free the best option is probably to start out experimenting with tf2 mapping or even just the base source sdk, as those are free options and hammer doesn’t really change much depending on the game you’re using it with. Still a bummer you can’t specifically test out CS:GO mapping on your own but there ARE free options to test your mapping.
@OfficialRKan
@OfficialRKan 4 жыл бұрын
Never knew this was a thing. Feels like a really weird way from Valve to prevent something somewhere.
@therealsuper5828
@therealsuper5828 4 жыл бұрын
o/
@fatdude2763
@fatdude2763 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@LIETUVIS10STUDIO1
@LIETUVIS10STUDIO1 4 жыл бұрын
It's probably due to engine and encoder licenses. Thus the SDK has to cost money, cause Valve either has a running license, or a pay-per-new-user license.
@TheLolilol321
@TheLolilol321 4 жыл бұрын
CS:GO is in a really weird spot. You'd think Valve would encourage free use of the SDK since the content created could draw users in but Valve has effectively discouraged community servers by hiding them away in the obscure server browser. Not to mention disallowed server skin mods. It's a shame, really. I spent hundreds upon hundreds of hours in CS:S playing on WCS, WowMod and RPG servers but I guess Valve doesn't really profit anything from that, making it hard for them to justify any time not spent on competitive or danger-zone.
@fcat2148
@fcat2148 4 жыл бұрын
Who exactly does Valve pay to license the Source engine? They are always been a private company.
@sulphurous2656
@sulphurous2656 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers from Poland, we have snow and it's 3 AM.
@SexDrugsNpostprod
@SexDrugsNpostprod 4 жыл бұрын
lucky!
@Nutyooo
@Nutyooo 4 жыл бұрын
Pomocy
@nikigameplay
@nikigameplay 4 жыл бұрын
Az musialem spojrzec za okno
@tylerory9745
@tylerory9745 4 жыл бұрын
Sulphurous Aw I want snow
@adamvalt6609
@adamvalt6609 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, 3AM gang
@teamakesgames
@teamakesgames 4 жыл бұрын
I do share the positions that the *creation tools should be free* and the *publishing tools should cost*
@user-un5xj1wl6p
@user-un5xj1wl6p Жыл бұрын
Sharing maps is free on gamebana and stuff, but that's not official and whatnot so yeah free editing aoftware for starters should be great
@highestsettings
@highestsettings Жыл бұрын
Why should people who make free content for Valve's game pay to do so? If they could make money using those publishing tools you mentioned, then fair enough, but they can't. I get that you and Valve might want to prevent the sort of thing mentioned in this video, but at the end of the day, I don't see why the modders who actually make real maps should be the ones to incur the cost.
@atsok9380
@atsok9380 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about the SteamVR Hammer Editor? It looks super cool.
@ZvedeSDC
@ZvedeSDC 4 жыл бұрын
It is not out yet, and it's also a Source 2 hammer Editor, not neccessarily limited to VR
@JotaFaD
@JotaFaD 4 жыл бұрын
@@ZvedeSDC It is out, you can open it by going to SteamVR > Workshop > Create Environment. The one that is not out is the version with the HL:A assets.
@YoItsDillan
@YoItsDillan 4 жыл бұрын
Ooooo, even though its not out yet I would ALSO like to see a video about this. just any interesting information. I own a vive and index controllers and have a strong interest in mapping. made a few projects in hammer myself a while back.
@FreeformThomas
@FreeformThomas 4 жыл бұрын
If he does it will probably be on 2kliksphilip and would be better to ask there
@lyyaam4873
@lyyaam4873 4 жыл бұрын
@@JotaFaD the HL:A one is out. Valve forgot to lock a previous play testing edition of the game, allowing people to import them
@fsq2185
@fsq2185 4 жыл бұрын
As amazing as hammer is, it is also extremely outdated and incredibly hard to use, having to pay that much money just for it in my opinion is a bad idea from Valve even if it is so to prevent bots. Also VSDK comes with TF2, for free, doesn't make much sense now, does it.
@uwirl4338
@uwirl4338 4 жыл бұрын
It's incredibly easy to use and learn, it's just not very well designed and everything takes a lot more time to do than it should. It has a terrible UI layout and hotkey design, and lots of limitations you would expect from an engine double its age. Its greatness comes from the fact that it's the only way to make maps for source, definitely not from being a good way to do it. Eerily similar to Maya and it's character animation workflow.
@medicindisquise4271
@medicindisquise4271 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, this is my main problem with it. It's inconsistent. Most, if not all, of the other F2P Source games come with the SDK for free. Why is CS:GO the exception?
@davidbischi
@davidbischi 4 жыл бұрын
@@uwirl4338 *shudders* maya and 3dsmax ui design
@fsq2185
@fsq2185 4 жыл бұрын
@From the Soil If you call source sdk and hammer up to date, I can only tell you to look at any other current mapping software for games. As for the ui, its atrocious and turns away many newbies. My point is that its not worth 12-15$ it is now being basically sold for, considering it is free with other valve titles.
@amp4105
@amp4105 4 жыл бұрын
Its not hard to use, its hard to make advanced maps though since the max amount of brushes and planes is so low meaning if you want to make a map that is bigger than lets say the average csgo map youd have to model alot of brushes.
@randomcommenter10_
@randomcommenter10_ 4 жыл бұрын
I still think it should be free since TF2's SDK tools became free when the game went free to play.
@flowler60
@flowler60 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm interesting point
@fatdude2763
@fatdude2763 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant point
@spacetoaster7
@spacetoaster7 4 жыл бұрын
Its important to remember that TF2 isn’t in the same position as CS:GO. The community is quite honestly the only way new content is added into that game these days. (Unlike CS:GO) That being said, i’m not taking a side in if it should be free or not
@SauberC10
@SauberC10 4 жыл бұрын
Then why should Valve do any work on the TF2 SDK, why not leave it a broken / buggy mess, after all nobody must want it if nobody will pay for it?
@wh3elson
@wh3elson 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, just bc 1 game did it doesn’t mean they all have to follow suit. It should be free because that gives cs go more content and even more custom content which will make the game last longer and more people will continue to buy skins
@Boxsteam
@Boxsteam 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't TF2's SDK go free when that went F2P? Can't see why the SDK can't go free on CS, especially since CSGO already has tons of other ways to make money
@filip6472
@filip6472 4 жыл бұрын
This is another annoying thing...I paid $20 to get TF2 on release and then it went free.....
@raphqq
@raphqq 4 жыл бұрын
He literaly said in the video that valve needs to do it to stop bots spamming the workshop pages
@mahmood2603
@mahmood2603 4 жыл бұрын
@@raphqq he also shows you can publish to workshop without it though
@maracaman1
@maracaman1 4 жыл бұрын
@@raphqq Rewatch that part, he shows that valve doesnt restrict posting on the workshop for free acounts.
@Gmodfan750
@Gmodfan750 4 жыл бұрын
there is no sdk for tf2
@Lillykyu778
@Lillykyu778 4 жыл бұрын
Are you ever going to make another series like the making of de_sparity?
@ampharosgames7526
@ampharosgames7526 4 жыл бұрын
I love that series, and it inspired me to get into mapping aswell
@poppysilver
@poppysilver 4 жыл бұрын
I mean that would also involve making a whole new map, which can take literal months and it's not something you can just "do" that easily really, at least not if you want to make a good map (ESPECIALLY for CS:GO). but that's just my point of view.
@travisdorling2997
@travisdorling2997 4 жыл бұрын
@@poppysilver he could do one where to speed it up he could have a team of mappers
@lucashoffmannn
@lucashoffmannn 4 жыл бұрын
@@ampharosgames7526 it inspired me too, 6 months later I had my first (and only) map uploaded to the workshop
@0Blueaura
@0Blueaura 4 жыл бұрын
​@@poppysilver philip should just make a new series of tutorials with source 2 asset editor sdk for vr
@DCTrain
@DCTrain 4 жыл бұрын
making maps should be free, but publishing them should require prime/buying the game
@milesnoname7904
@milesnoname7904 4 жыл бұрын
Mayo78 nothing, but valve wants their service to be clean.
@budgie508
@budgie508 2 жыл бұрын
I just want it free.
@cmnx3083
@cmnx3083 2 жыл бұрын
thats sounds wrong in a multitude of levels lmao mapper work so that they could see their map being played and getting feedbacks to keep making more, better maps. to work on a map for days on end only to see it fails at publishing onto the workshop is even worse than not getting access to the mapping tool in the first place. i think that Valve did a pretty great job making this choice, though it can be a little harsh
@DCTrain
@DCTrain 2 жыл бұрын
@Do Not Lie A 2 year old comment and you reply with the worst reply ever, damn you heathen, DAMN YOU
@yourbestpalal3727
@yourbestpalal3727 4 жыл бұрын
Been thinking about making maps and then trying to work it out today with your old video.... to then see you just uploaded this! thank you so much!!
@yourbestpalal3727
@yourbestpalal3727 4 жыл бұрын
now trying it its not working... it says launching then stops. i got the game 5yrs ago so its prime
@rohatb
@rohatb 4 жыл бұрын
I've just finished your hammer tutorials again, it's 4.15 AM here. Thanks.
@celestialcolosseum
@celestialcolosseum 4 жыл бұрын
Vay Türk buldum xd
@c_mark5622
@c_mark5622 4 жыл бұрын
Stop speaking gibberish!
@iamtheballerr
@iamtheballerr 4 жыл бұрын
Ben de
@iamtheballerr
@iamtheballerr 4 жыл бұрын
@@c_mark5622 go brrr u are mad
@DesignsByMario
@DesignsByMario 4 жыл бұрын
I do already own CS from years in the past, but I definitely understand the people who don't have money to buy it. I come from a low income family, growing up around other low income families, and really none of the kids in these families earn any money regular. I'd get maybe 5 euros one month, and then none the next, it's not easy as a kid. Neither do you earn much from celebratory days, like birthdays or Christmas either. I usually got 100 euros maximum from a birthday, and then I'd have to decide to which broken thing to put that money towards. I wish it was free so more people could experience it and express their creativity in it!
@mateyv
@mateyv 4 жыл бұрын
that price is just too high for sdk, in comparison - i bought witcher 3 on sale for less money than that
@legobatman2440
@legobatman2440 4 жыл бұрын
Haha I live in third world country malaysia, games are fucking expensive and I'm sad :( . Like seige is RM 80. 80 bucks wtf
@therealb888
@therealb888 4 жыл бұрын
@@legobatman2440 hey 3rd world master race here too😂
@XTANCE
@XTANCE 4 жыл бұрын
@@legobatman2440 in our 3rd world country (RF) people know about torrents
@stefanblaga9986
@stefanblaga9986 4 жыл бұрын
@@legobatman2440 at least you have prices according to local economy... biggest injustice is done in Eastern Europe, where, for example, in Romania you pay the same price for a game as in Germany, although the Romanian economy is many times worse than the German one.
@ambien2595
@ambien2595 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely didnt have my friend give me his and just edited all the config files to match my directories
@kressckerl
@kressckerl 4 жыл бұрын
hello lovely dear friend, would you care sharing the editor with me( ͡°з ͡°) send.firefox.com works great ;)
@brokenstrat6412
@brokenstrat6412 4 жыл бұрын
A big thanks for the guides and this video, I've begun making my own map because of this and I couldn't of done it without your help. Thanks 3kliksphilip !!!
@tujan7598
@tujan7598 4 жыл бұрын
I never bought CS:GO but got prime through leveling up. I've thought of mapping for a while and made some maps for source but now I think I'll finally buy the map editor for CS:GO. Great video!
@syngos98
@syngos98 4 жыл бұрын
Primary objective: Find Nemo Secondary objective: make a map
@Underqualified_Gunman
@Underqualified_Gunman 4 жыл бұрын
Tf2's hammer and such is free to use though.
@victorverkoelen7891
@victorverkoelen7891 4 жыл бұрын
I just got into gmod mapping yesterday because I want to use it to do UX tests at a distance with the quarantine and stuff. I actually used one of your 2012 hammer tutorials on loading in custom models for this.
@exileohseven
@exileohseven 4 жыл бұрын
Your map making tutorials are great! I might have another go, now that I have plenty of time in isolation
@acantharctia
@acantharctia 4 жыл бұрын
I got my Premium account as a present from a random guy in Steam. I just asked the community if i needed it for mapping and when they said "yes",so one of the guys that awsered me friended me and bought me a premium subscription,bruh.
@AtomicSpeedFT
@AtomicSpeedFT 4 жыл бұрын
Blu Some people are very kind
@vadnegru
@vadnegru 4 жыл бұрын
It used to be the time when csgo was crazy cheap like 2$ or so. Many people bought gifts for their friends and even more. Maybe that guy was one of them.
@MidnightBloomDev
@MidnightBloomDev 4 жыл бұрын
@@vadnegru Csgo was never $2
@therealb888
@therealb888 4 жыл бұрын
@@MidnightBloomDev it used to $7 though
@stefanblaga9986
@stefanblaga9986 4 жыл бұрын
@@MidnightBloomDev cheapest it went for in europe was 4.13 euro. Source: steamdb: prntscr.com/rqlsou cheapest it went in the USA was $5.39. prntscr.com/rqltfh
@besnick
@besnick 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I once thought of making maps for CSGO after seeing your tutorials, but then after I saw that the hammer editor wasn't there, my will to make maps for it just disappeared, like some pair of gauntlets on a mountain. Oh and also the prime status here is 50 BRL so no way I'm gonna spend it all for an editor.
@cmnx3083
@cmnx3083 2 жыл бұрын
In Vietnam, $15 for Prime is about 345000 VND, that's a price equal to a mid-tier gaming mouse holy crap
@jamesfanner1024
@jamesfanner1024 4 жыл бұрын
I made a post about this a while ago in the 3kliksphilip subreddit glad to see that he is touching on it now
@jesuschrist194
@jesuschrist194 4 жыл бұрын
I love you dude
@rudresh10000
@rudresh10000 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like it should be free, I used to play in CS 1.6 ZP servers and the community always had a Mapping Competition. Winner usually got a copy of the game if they didn't own it and admin privileges. It encourages creativity and you pick up some useful skills too.
@BeastinlosersHD
@BeastinlosersHD 4 жыл бұрын
"Feel entitled to free software" Richard Stallman would like to have a word with you
@yummydirtproductions
@yummydirtproductions 3 жыл бұрын
Stallman stands for software freedom, not necessarily free-to-use software
@supertrash896
@supertrash896 4 жыл бұрын
I mean I remember making Quake maps and Doom maps using free tools, and wolfenstein enemy territory maps using Radiant. Back when CSGO was buy to play, I guess it made sense to bundle them together, since you needed to own the game to really make use of the tools, but it does seem a little weird they would restrict it now, especially if the wall doesn't even stop bots from ruining things for everybody. If enough people pushed for it, Valve might end up relenting. Probably a non issue these days when you can access powerful game engines for free and do infinitely more without suffering through late 90s UI.
@Ultra289
@Ultra289 4 жыл бұрын
i thought 3kliks d talk about the broken low shaders after 27/3 update and the recent market bug where models where expensive as hell (the 2nd thing at least was just fixed)
@erm_ok
@erm_ok 4 жыл бұрын
I just can’t wait until csgo gets ported to source2 and I can get my hands on that sweet new hammer editor.
@NinetyEight418
@NinetyEight418 4 ай бұрын
Oh wel..
@emberytp
@emberytp 4 жыл бұрын
I remember being in this exact circumstance because I joined Steam when Portal 2 was announced, and Valve was giving Portal 1 away for free to promote it. I *thought* I'd be granted the SDK for free as well, but the fact that the game was free barred me from this. I ended up spending hours on Portal 1 just ent_create ing the HL2 NPCs and Impulse 101-ing my way to weapons. Portal 1 was my Garry's Mod for years, it's funny to think back on. But back on topic, I think it is *incredibly* reasonable that for a private company like Valve with so many secrets that they ask for just $15 US in order to use their tried and tested tools. You can blow $250 USD on some lesser-known proprietary 3D game-making software on Steam or spend an hour's pay (except food service workers who deserve non-tip-dependent wages) on a handy level editor.
@emberytp
@emberytp 4 жыл бұрын
Also, I believe in open source software. I think proprietary stuff is dumb and just divides efforts. Open source software like Godot Engine and GB Studio are really their own league of programs. To me, Valve doesn't sound interested in changing their methodology at all if they're still asking gamedevs to pay up for a licence to sell an original game on the Source engine. Part of me wonders if all things Source 1 will become free-r as it becomes a tool of history rather than for active​ development. It feels like this state of "paying for the level editor" is a concequence of Half Life: Alyx and the associated official Source 2 release taking so damn long.
@CrAzYpotpie
@CrAzYpotpie 4 жыл бұрын
As a long time Hammer user myself, & someone who isnt super into counterstrike, I knew about this from the day it went free to play. Fortunately, you can get someone to send you the files for the editor & it will work just fine. I did this within the week of it being F2P, as i assumed Valve had made a simple mistake & would unlock it for everyone later. Strange that they never did.
@orec1424
@orec1424 4 жыл бұрын
I wanna thank 3kliksphilip for having so many amazing tutorials I used to teach myself map creation using the source engine. If you are interested in map/world creation, I highly suggest his videos as well as starting with a game you know, like csgo. Thanks 3kliks!!!
@annekedebruyn7797
@annekedebruyn7797 4 жыл бұрын
So rather than creating a barrier for spambots, they create a barrier that kept games alive literally decades after their official deaths? Great work Valve. That tool was a huge gateway to people getting into 3D and game design.
@MightyElemental
@MightyElemental 4 жыл бұрын
2:00 $15 is the price of a cheap game on a steam sale? Well. I wouldn't call $15 cheap for a game, especially one that is on sale.
@DaniPaunov
@DaniPaunov 4 жыл бұрын
I mean idk, there are quite a few games that cost 40-60$ on steam I wouldn't exactly call it "a cheap game on sale", but it is _relatively_ cheap compared to those other games.
@MightyElemental
@MightyElemental 4 жыл бұрын
@@DaniPaunov sure, relatively. But I'd never buy a game that costs more than $20 to start with.
@Mr_Tralala
@Mr_Tralala 4 жыл бұрын
@@MightyElemental then that's just you being a cheapo
@PeterGembrowski
@PeterGembrowski 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing this to my attention, always giving me knowledge
@InsaneFirebat
@InsaneFirebat 4 жыл бұрын
I work for a developer of a free2play and we also lock our map editor behind a paywall. If you've made a purchase before, you can use the editor and play your maps in single player. If you bought our standard "skip the grind" bundle, you get to publish your maps for everyone to use in multiplayer. Making an editor is a lot of work, and even more if you want it to be easy to use. I don't blame Valve for keeping the price tag on the editor.
@NicolaiSyvertsen
@NicolaiSyvertsen 4 жыл бұрын
The venn diagram of (people into mapping) and (people who cannot afford $15) is very very tiny anyways.
@protolanhan9824
@protolanhan9824 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Valve could do with some one like you to help them to overcome these challenges!
@sulphurous2656
@sulphurous2656 4 жыл бұрын
2:54 I found myself hoarding a bunch of Vega GPUs that I never even used once, for several months now. And I bought that pile of hardware with my own pocket change!
@bruh.j4mes
@bruh.j4mes 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe try getting a refund. That money could go towards something useful. (Like bills)
@honkmandeluxe
@honkmandeluxe 4 жыл бұрын
the throwbacks in this video were a great touch
@Rit678
@Rit678 4 жыл бұрын
i have learnt a lot about making maps on your channel but i really wanted to know some stuff about making gun skins and what software people use.
@bennett.mj19
@bennett.mj19 4 жыл бұрын
i honestly believe that making csgo itself f2p wasnt a very good idea.
@kosovoisserbia8937
@kosovoisserbia8937 4 жыл бұрын
@@QazCetelic and from cheaters buying prime status too
@therealb888
@therealb888 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree making it f2p was a great idea. Keeping ssdk p2u is a crime!
@sunk2086
@sunk2086 4 жыл бұрын
The thing in my opinion on not making the software for free is that there's people who just want to try it. I own many source games, so I don't have this issue. Although, I did want to try to use Hammer, but I don't find that kind of thing fun. There's probably people out there that want to try it, but scared of wasting $15 on something they wont use. Also, support Free Software www.fsf.org
@lorsch.
@lorsch. 4 жыл бұрын
You can always get a refund if you return the game after playing less than 2 hours during 2 weeks on Steam
@matiassampieri9964
@matiassampieri9964 4 жыл бұрын
lorsch IIRC you can’t refund the prime upgrade
@isanarditama
@isanarditama 4 жыл бұрын
No one wanna wasting on shitty game engine
@lol-jg8ds
@lol-jg8ds 4 жыл бұрын
free, open source software is our only future.
@cheesecraft789
@cheesecraft789 4 жыл бұрын
You can also get the sdk from css, I accidentally got the sdk when buying source for gmod textures
@TheOnlyInformant
@TheOnlyInformant 4 жыл бұрын
Btw you can find a download of the SDK from other places. I had it on my other pc, a little bit of google, maybe on a forum where someone cloud-shares it
@Jonathan-ol9si
@Jonathan-ol9si 4 жыл бұрын
did the zooming out at the outro make the screen look like its zooming in after? warowl video hallucinations
@kiiruGG
@kiiruGG 4 жыл бұрын
Hammer is in fact a great tool to use. I’ve properly spent 2000+ in that software and keep grinding new surf maps 👏🏼
@kexsurf
@kexsurf 4 жыл бұрын
After watching this, you need a fish in a map :'D
@kiiruGG
@kiiruGG 4 жыл бұрын
kEXsurf i Will next!!
@amp4105
@amp4105 4 жыл бұрын
fellow source movement mappers
@dangerx69
@dangerx69 4 жыл бұрын
Finally 3kp made a video on this.....i tried everything to download it and at last found an upload of sdk files from a user ...copied it to csgo/bin...and it worked ....but i couldn't use the workshop to upload though
@TehKola2
@TehKola2 4 жыл бұрын
Did not expect to see Elite Dangerous footage in this video. More a still frame but even so.
@awkwardcultism
@awkwardcultism 4 жыл бұрын
Gonna have to disagree with you on this one Phillip. Sure, it's Valve's right to charge for modding tools. They can charge for whatever they want. That doesn't make it a good business decision, or good for the players. The added value, both it terms of dollars and fun that mods add to a game vastly outweighs the pocket change they're getting out of this. I've never paid for modding tools and I never will. You can call that entitlement if you want, but it doesn't change the result, less fun mods.
@veryveryold
@veryveryold 4 жыл бұрын
Solution: make the software free, but limit uploads to the workshop to free accounts. That way you don’t restrict somebody’s potential creativity, but you also counter the bot problem
@randomcatdude
@randomcatdude 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, nothing is stopping F2P bots from spamming the workshop with pre-made map files. I don't see why the mapping tools couldn't be made free, but the publishing stay limited to Prime.
@the_perfect_organism
@the_perfect_organism 4 жыл бұрын
I’m torn on this- I’m very much of the mind that stuff like this that enables expression and creativity like an SDK is a great asset and as many people as possible should have access to it. But I also think about how many games offer you the developer tools included these days- a very small number. 15 bucks isn’t that much money though, so it’s not like the barrier to entry is very high. I don’t think there’s a wrong answer to this.
@maxemore
@maxemore 4 жыл бұрын
You can get csgo nonsteam and it usually comes with hammer and build tools in the bin folder
@evila9076
@evila9076 4 жыл бұрын
The csgo sdk shld be available to buy as a seperate piece of software.
@theanonymouswayz3566
@theanonymouswayz3566 4 жыл бұрын
What about the people that own it
@ValentineC137
@ValentineC137 4 жыл бұрын
@@theanonymouswayz3566 they already own it :P
@evila9076
@evila9076 4 жыл бұрын
@@theanonymouswayz3566 as Valentine said.
@orionnentity2260
@orionnentity2260 4 жыл бұрын
Aussa Villa should be free tbh, i haven't read read a single comment with a valid answer to why it shouldn't.
@evila9076
@evila9076 4 жыл бұрын
@@orionnentity2260 I mean it's valve's product, they are the one who decide. tho 15$ is too much for just the sdk in my opinion.
@colgatev2764
@colgatev2764 4 жыл бұрын
If the SDK is gonna be free, why even buy csgo? You can even get prime for free, which i think was a stupid idea. Anyways great video as always Phillip :)
@ferdinandhansel3248
@ferdinandhansel3248 4 жыл бұрын
You can get prime "for free" with a LOT of time invested. You have to invest way more time to get prime "for free" than you would to have to for earning 15 dollars. Go blood donating or make some stupid online survey. Takes a lot less time to get prime.
@colgatev2764
@colgatev2764 4 жыл бұрын
@@ferdinandhansel3248 I understand you view, but I still think that prime should be paid only.
@ul7ra351
@ul7ra351 4 жыл бұрын
1:40 Good find and this sounds like soemthing you should communicate to Valve. This could be the key to greatly curbing the fraudulunet submissions i.e. closing this loophole.
@nicolaidbs
@nicolaidbs 4 жыл бұрын
Is Philip allergic to the word pound? As always, great video!
@duuqnd
@duuqnd 4 жыл бұрын
But Valve didn't exactly make Hammer. Hammer is just a *very* improved version of ID Software's WorldCraft editor for Quake. Yes, it *is* more Valve than ID now, but it still feels wrong that they would sell copies of Hammer regardless. I mean, did ID Software ever expect this when they sold Valve a Quake engine license? I don't think so. They expected that Valve would extend the engine and editor, make and sell games with them, and license out the extended engine to other developers. They probably didn't expect that Valve would then sell access to the editor. It's not even like this is the only way to access Hammer. (Almost) Every other Source game comes with Hammer. It's just the one with a few CS:GO-related files that costs money.
@nickg2633
@nickg2633 4 жыл бұрын
You guys argue whether a 15$ dollar tool should be free, while in the previous video comment section everyone was willing to pay 650-1000$ for VR just to play half life alyx.
@TheHeavyshadow
@TheHeavyshadow 4 жыл бұрын
Breaking News: Gamers aren't one monolithic entity, but actually a group made up of a lot of individuals, some of whom are willing to pay up to a thousand dollars for VR while others don't.
@PS2Damon
@PS2Damon 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHeavyshadow That's not the point. It's just a flaw he pointed out. $15 is definitely not that much for a game you'll get thousands of hours out of like I have. Save a dollar for 15 days and buy it, what's so hard about that?
@TheHeavyshadow
@TheHeavyshadow 4 жыл бұрын
@@PS2Damon That's very much the point Nick was making. I agree with the "15$ isn't much"-part, but "you guys" and "everyone" is precisely the "Everyone inside [subgroup] acts the same"-argument that is very common especially in gaming circles. "Gamers said they don't like lootboxes, yet lootboxes are still being bought. Hypocrites, every single one!"
@Vitgone
@Vitgone 4 жыл бұрын
Loading up my first completed map and seeing the bot's play on it was one of the most magical moments I ever had in gameing. If you own the game, just try making a map. it doesn't need to be good. It doesn't even need to be balanced. Map making has teached me a lot things, and playing on a map I made, with friends has been some of the most fun I ever had with cs:go. If you have any interest in mapping go for it, it's so much fun. It might be hard in the beginning but once you figure stuff out it's great. (Philip has made great tutorials for this on his channel. I highly recommend you check them out.) And Philip if you see this, thank you so much for what you have introduced me to. (And sorry for any typos in this. I wrote this at 4 a.m. in the morning because I woke up too early.)
@MrPatatogamer
@MrPatatogamer 4 жыл бұрын
Used the edditor for a couple hours trying to create maps. i feel like they should update the editor, or make a new one. it feels kinda slugisch and i think mapping could have more potential for casuals.
@IapetusII
@IapetusII 4 жыл бұрын
Well that stinks. I was trying to rank up to rank 21 (currently 14) so that I would be able to get the version of hammer editor so that I can back port, but welp......
@tanekheath5323
@tanekheath5323 4 жыл бұрын
I leveled up to prime in csgo, all i need to do is buy the game with “prime status” and it will come,with source sdk? How can i get the sdk with a leveled up account
@operatornanox
@operatornanox 4 жыл бұрын
I think the 15 dollars is split between the 10 bucks for the sdk and 5 bucks for csgo itself. Only cause the source sdk as alot of possibilities
@kermitlefrog3346
@kermitlefrog3346 4 ай бұрын
portal half life css source are always on sale for 2 dollars or less and all come with the sdk
@wermycsgo6329
@wermycsgo6329 4 жыл бұрын
This actually really bothers me, I tried to start mapping but I couldn't because I had to buy prime
@curdledstraw227
@curdledstraw227 4 жыл бұрын
same :,(
@micro6555
@micro6555 4 жыл бұрын
You should ask one of your friends that has bought CS:GO for "steam family sharing" and you can play every game/app that he has including SDK. And if you have level 0 on Steam you can send your files (after you finished the map) to your friend. So he can publish it.
@rohatb
@rohatb 4 жыл бұрын
Same with me :( And I nealy had no reason to buy it because I already reached rank 21 and got the prime and also, because of the inflation in my country, when CSGO went free, its price had risen up. (Went from 25 to 77 in our currency) And it doesn't change with Steam Sales too, unfortunately.
@Nol41
@Nol41 4 жыл бұрын
My problem is that I got prime by playing the game, so I cant even buy the SDK now
@rohatb
@rohatb 4 жыл бұрын
@@Nol41 You can buy prime status upgrade even though you're prime.
@Peter-gb4ey
@Peter-gb4ey 4 жыл бұрын
When you say your asking for thoughts, I can't help think about your deleting comments video every time now.
@Combine90
@Combine90 4 жыл бұрын
Its okay that you need to pay for the tools, they also should lock that you can Upload stuff only if you have the payed tools. I would prefer that the microtransaction stuff disapperas instead.
@NickDerMitHut
@NickDerMitHut 4 жыл бұрын
For a video from lovely Philip it is worth sacrificing 3 minutes and 41 seconds of sleep.
@fpsoftdev
@fpsoftdev 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being so entitled you think Valve owes it to you to give you something for free.
@gautamvaze1101
@gautamvaze1101 4 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of people that just want to try it. They don't want to buy something that they might never use. Tf2 SDK went free when th game did so why not csgo
@Dragon.7722
@Dragon.7722 4 жыл бұрын
Early, yeet.
@maxito1214
@maxito1214 4 жыл бұрын
Philip, there’s now a new update in CS:GO, and it released a new case (Prisma 2) my attention got particularly driven to a particular skin from that case... The skin that caught my attention is the AWP Capillary, it’s from the same collection from the MP9 and Five-Seven capillary (being the capillary collection) and the thing that caught my attention of this skin from the capillary collection, is they added a new feature onto it. The new feature added is that now the butt and barrel of the weapon have a human cell look, and have randomized patterns, what do you think about it?
@MixedMartialHelp
@MixedMartialHelp 4 жыл бұрын
Ooooo didn't know that. I bought CS GO back on release so I should already age this! I've got a loot of time coming up on my hands now with 2 surgeries
@cris-ih5vt
@cris-ih5vt 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly i think they should just make it free since bots can exploit the borrow feature, making the price more useless than before. They could at the very least give you it when you reach rank 21 and unlock prime!
@HexRox
@HexRox 4 жыл бұрын
Make a separate page for the SDK and sell it under the Software category
@AtomicSpeedFT
@AtomicSpeedFT 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I would have payed 20 dollars extra for the CSGO or HL2 SDK. Playing something you created and having the amazing feeling when it is fun is not something I could put a price on.
@MadmanEpic
@MadmanEpic 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why they don't just lock off the workshop uploader instead. That seems like it'd make a lot more sense, considering you aren't gonna be publishing a whole lot with no editor anyway, and people would probably be more willing to pay up to publish their creations if they already had creations to publish.
@piers389
@piers389 4 жыл бұрын
It's worth buying, although I think Valve could offer it as a separate piece at a reduced price - maybe £5.99 or something like that.
@dealloc
@dealloc 4 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that the Source SDK (for CS:GO) is still proprietary software and it likely has other reasons not to include as part of free installations of CS:GO. It's important to note that different versions of the Source SDK, while they do share some, have different license agreements and ToS depending on the distribution. The game and SDK are separate products, and Valve has chosen to give you tools for authoring custom content for the game if you decide to pay for the main product. I think that is perfectly fine. That is just my opinion, would love to hear yours!
@eepiTV
@eepiTV 4 жыл бұрын
i think that there should be a free verison, but for those that use the free version, valve has to manually allow them to post their maps
@0Blueaura
@0Blueaura 4 жыл бұрын
philip should just make a new series of tutorials with source 2 sdk for vr
@emilianozamora399
@emilianozamora399 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion I think the reason is to keep a value in the premium version. Because some people won't buy it, just because they realize they'll get the bonus of having it for free anyways, so including the source sdk in the free version would make buying prime worthless.
@elliotwillming8348
@elliotwillming8348 4 жыл бұрын
I wanted to make a TTT map recently but don't own CS source, so I can't make it. It goes on a 90% off sale every now and again, so I don't really want to buy it now when it's $10. I have the hammer editor for buying other Valve games, HL2 and what not. So I could build my levels but probably wouldn't be able to share them with others. I just wanted to make a map to play some TTT with my friends.
@BenBelanger4
@BenBelanger4 4 жыл бұрын
I emailed valve about this a few weeks ago, was verysad to hear it wasnt included in the free liscence.
@AltaTheRaccoon
@AltaTheRaccoon 4 жыл бұрын
Same, I'm not paying 12 euros just for a map editor and was super pissed cause I grinded to rank 21 to make maps for csgo but sadly couldn't
@BenLubar
@BenLubar Жыл бұрын
The weirdest part is that Hammer is already available for free from the Alien Swarm and Alien Swarm: Reactive Drop authoring tools.
@magnus8069
@magnus8069 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not like I don’t have the money, but I really don’t see a reason to keep it behind a pay wall... Imo you should unlock the hammer editor with reaching prime...
@toobllu
@toobllu 4 жыл бұрын
I've just recently started mapping and its been loads of fun! Your tutorials are really a really good starting point too. Made an inferno themed 1v1 map :P
@ducksi1
@ducksi1 4 жыл бұрын
:) im glad! i also recently started mapping
@garojanboulian4987
@garojanboulian4987 4 жыл бұрын
what's the maze map called the one u have to reach down for the weapons
@XradicalD
@XradicalD 4 жыл бұрын
I just want for Source 2 to be free. I don't expect it would be as popular as Unity or Unreal, but it would be nice for people to work on it. Maybe have it with a port of HL2 as a base, hm?
@DirtyRobot
@DirtyRobot 4 жыл бұрын
Hehe! I used the original WH to make maps for my clan. One of the more interesting was a glass map where if you shot the wrong direction you could fall to your death.
@rangergolf2615
@rangergolf2615 4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't even be upset if they discounted the prime membership during things like the summer sale
@sekairedblue
@sekairedblue 4 жыл бұрын
Considering the state of everything I really don't have 15€ to spare, but making maps always seemed fun, gonna fuck around with it as I can
@Welux
@Welux 4 жыл бұрын
Great video bro!!
@ouchmypp4704
@ouchmypp4704 4 жыл бұрын
It’s 2:19 AM and I’m watching this Quarantine’s doing great for me :)
@kittzy3598
@kittzy3598 4 жыл бұрын
You can still use the SDK if you have the files to it, even without paying for CS
@iamtheballerr
@iamtheballerr 4 жыл бұрын
I know but I accidently delete it
@axelflindt5328
@axelflindt5328 4 жыл бұрын
i think they sould add the building thing to the free to play becouse i started to play it for free to try it and then got the lv 21 free prime and now its a waste of money i think to just get the map creater
@huns9911
@huns9911 4 жыл бұрын
It surprises me that the game would be made free to open it up to a larger crowd but the platform to allow people to create for the game is not, I figured they would leave all avenues open to make players more susceptible to being enthralled and less likely to depart from the game.