"Tethered Cord Syndrome and Ehlers Danlos Syndrome" - Sunil Patel, MD

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Dr. Sunil Patel talks about the emerging field of study that associates tethered cord syndrome and Ehlers-Danlos syndrome. Dr. Patel describes the types of symptoms that patients who share both these conditions may present with in doctor's offices. He describes the current controversies surrounding the co-morbidities and how patients and doctors can work together to improve diagnosis and treatment options.
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@cynthiainezgonz6906
@cynthiainezgonz6906 4 жыл бұрын
All my respect Dr for being decent enough to admit your past behavior! Believe me when I say you were nothing compared to how some neurosurgeons behave towards us when telling us what we do or dont feel! I have PTSD going to the hospital is pointless! I no longer take narcotic pain meds I refuse to be threatened pushed and around using my pain my contract being terminated! Hospital labeled me a drug seeker and drug addict when I begged them to help me keep their drugs just help! I was told I was cured I'm just being overly sensitive to pain on and on ! My second shunt hasnt been working I can feel and hear the difference! My doctor told me like 4 yrs ago "she had exhausted her resources trying to find me q neurosurgeon!" My case is to complex ect ect.. my whole body is getting worse ringing white noise crackling ticking clicking sounds when move my neck , the different types of headaches are crazy! My nose keeps dripping I did halo test it's barely visible to obviously visible it's sometimes not constant! Oregon has no specialists! There are thousands of us going through HELL and no one believes us or takes us seriously! What are we supposed to do ? I've been years already with out seeing someone!
@christybaker8876
@christybaker8876 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry you are suffering Cynthia. I have EDS and am a patient of Patel’s and we desperately need more surgeons like him!
@gabbiebarnard7580
@gabbiebarnard7580 2 жыл бұрын
Medical gaslighting then causes us to go have complex PTSD
@georgettebales2640
@georgettebales2640 Жыл бұрын
Cynthia, You must see Dr. Patricia Pang in Bend, Oregon. My 21 year old daughter has EDS and had tethered cord operation just 4 days ago and is a new person. Check her out in Oregon.
@ucantbeseriouscanu
@ucantbeseriouscanu 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing and Dr Patel is the type of doctor that is missing these days. Per the video alone you can tell he is a rare individual as he seems to CARE! We've seen so many "specialists" who simply don't care and per Dr Patel, they quickly dismiss us and won't admit that they don't know. Competence + Compassion = physician. 99% don't seem to meet this criteria. Dr Patel is an exception.
@ashleym1565
@ashleym1565 2 жыл бұрын
I’m in Rhode Island and there are so many doctors that are aware of EDS which has been so helpful!
@0220LMB
@0220LMB Жыл бұрын
I'm also in Rhode island and suffering from connective tissue, CCI, possible tethered cord ( seeing Dr Klinge next month for assessment) I also became very ill with other things and ended up losing my home and everything. I literally don't have anywhere to live. Imagine with all of this? I can't even turn my neck in any direction or hold up my head. I've had all my mast cell and pain meds taken away after 12 years of being a chronic pain patient. I've been abused and gaslit etc. Misdiagnosed for almost 20 years with all that I have. I know we have Dr Klinge, Healey and muldowny but pt didn't seem to help. I need a new PCP who understands I'm in severe pain and all my issues at least a little bit. Can you suggest others I can reach out to? Thank you. Glad I saw your comment.
@kandicomarawski1171
@kandicomarawski1171 Ай бұрын
@@0220LMBnot sure if you got that recommendation I’m still looking for a doctor that understands. Like you I lost my pain meds unfortunately I didn’t even get a chance to try different ones to see what worked best. Tried one doctor left clinic clinic couldn’t find new doctor technically illegally copied scripts from last month after 6 months on a med not right for me I gave up at that clinic and haven’t been able to find treatment. I went to Healy too but PT didn’t really help much I have CFS and PT is not good w pacing and not having me go past my limit causing PEM. I can’t go to the other PT which I’ve heard is better they have a whole assessment unless I can come up with $800 out of pocket. My PCP is really clueless I don’t think he deals w complex patients really but I switched once to a woman and she cared more about what was then non existent wrinkles on my face and trying to get me to do Botox then the actual medical issues I was having then instantly dumped me as a patient when my insurance wouldn’t pay for a single med she prescribed. I called for the generic / alternative the insurance would pay for heard the secretary tell her I said the insurance wouldn’t cover it and heard her start yelling about non compliance and tell her she’s discharged. I got the impression she wanted patients that had money who could get alternative treatments and add ons like Botox and whose insurance would pay for whatever new expensive drug had a current incentive to rx and I wasn’t that kind of patient so I had to go. Seems any doctor who has a decent reputation will not accept my insurance and none will do self pay as they say it be too expensive. I’d love to know where the good doctors are. Buttetflybabe711 at iCloud.
@MrsErinjudge
@MrsErinjudge 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so upset that my doctor is supposed to be a specialist in EDS. Yet she has dismissed this even when I asked for testing. I’m not sure if they really came back normal but all these symptoms are severely effecting my quality of life! I’m finally getting a MALS diagnosis after having to do my own medical searching! I’m at a loss as to where to even go with all my diagnosis! Aren’t I supposed to have some sort of plan to feel better?!
@mares3841
@mares3841 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@cloacalexstrophynz
@cloacalexstrophynz 2 жыл бұрын
My name is Eva, I am a Samoan/Maori 17 year old with a condition called Cloacal Exstrophy. I was diagnosed with Sensitization Syndrome in 2017 when I presented with pain initially in my right thigh then it progressed to my left groin. They suggested a tough love regime where my parents, teachers and health care providers made me move and exercise despite how much pain I presented . For 4 years I was tortured until my Dad couldn't take it anymore and in desperation contacted the hospital who got angry and dropped us from the pain team. We requested the hospital records and was shocked to see that they had attributed a behavioral component to my symptom's. They have me listed as a Bladder Exstrophy and said the pain is because of my medical history however I only had the one surgery after birth and never suffered pain before. As it turns out I have all the symptoms of a tethered cord. 100% of Cloacal Exstrophies have occult spinal dysraphism. However when I finally got to see the hospital neurosurgeon for the first time in my life last year he told Dad that that not true. The hospital has destroyed my life and my family. And we continue to get denied care at Starship hospital who have become increasingly hostile. The lawyer contacted me today and said I am dropped from childrens and have to go to adult My weight is down to 2-5% of average. I'm the only Cloacal Exstrophy in the world where no attempt has been made to make me continent. Or fix a widening pubic synapsis. And a tethered cord. I'm the only Cloacal Exstrophy in New Zealand. And I just found out that 90% of my large bowel is gone. My original Pediatric surgeon hasn't bothered passing that on to anyone. And the hospital doesn't believe me even though I showed them the original surgery notes. I just got turned down for colorectal input. I've been on an adult waiting list for bladder surgery for 7 years as they said that its an elective surgery. And I've had no orthopedic, urology or colorectal input as a Cloacal exstrophy. Its a miserable existence and hugely stressful for my whanau. The pain deep into my groin is constant now and debilitating. Both my feet are numb. And my bladder has disappeared on the MRI. My body is bent and they said that one of my legs is shorter than the other. I never had that before I was 10. If anyone knows where I can get my cord untethered then please give me a cost and Dad said he would ask his Iwi (tribe Tainui) and Mom can get the Samoan church to help raise the money. Plus our Island community where I live (Waiheke Island). Once we have the Cloacal Exstrophy international community telling the doctors here in New Zealand about this condition than I can raise the money very quickly I think. Dads number is 64 027 225 1459
@GodsGadfly
@GodsGadfly 2 жыл бұрын
I can't help you, but maybe reach out to the Marfan Foundation or MUSC? I say Marfan because they will help with other connective tissue disorders sometimes.
@dumbmusorowan
@dumbmusorowan Жыл бұрын
jesus that's really really awful. i live on the other side of the world to u so i don't really know how to help, but have u tried making a gofundme? or contacting any news outlets or charities? reaching out to the wider disability community in aotearoa new zealand might be a good idea, facebook groups are usually a good place to start. i really hope things get better for u, no one deserves to go through that.
@mirandabraaten9112
@mirandabraaten9112 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why there is so much talk about whether the physicians who treat EDS believe if EDS is real or not. I thought we, as a nation were past that point. Personally for myself with cEDS and the molecular testing proving the collagen defect I suppose I have to keep in mind this video was added two years ago.
@GLGC688
@GLGC688 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand it, either. How do they think joints daily dislocate?
@mirandabraaten9112
@mirandabraaten9112 2 жыл бұрын
@@GLGC688 Because dislocation of joints is a prime symptom of having Elhers-Danlos Syndrome. If you research, EDS which I am guessing you have since you are commenting on the video. For me personally, I had to have multiple surgeries to my left knee for patellar dislocation/sublexation. I had a muscle advancement surgery done twice to my left knee before anyone knew about EDS, my surgeon (who I actually worked with for years as I was a surgical technologist, never ever discussed EDS as an option for me, way back when. I don't think he knew himself what it was) But yes, it is very common for us who have EDS to dislocate joints and also sublex them. I do believe that there is probably way more sublexations than total dislocations though. Personal opinion. I am not sure if my answer helps, or if I am way off base. The reason people with EDS can have these dislocations is due to a defect in collagen, which makes EDS a connective tissue disorder. Imagine if everything that was supposed to hold your body together was weak, defected, and failed you daily. Now, do you understand why it is not uncommon for people with EDS to dislocate daily. Also there are plenty of articles online to research if you still have questions. Hope this helps in some way!!
@jicajacobsonkimbreaux
@jicajacobsonkimbreaux 2 жыл бұрын
There is an EDS and hypermobility clinic at Tulane with Dr Corseault. If anyone has any recommendations for the best specialists to evaluate my six year old for occult tethered cord (I'm already well documented/diagnosed with EDS) in the Southeast US, I would love to hear it. Duke is really the only one that I know of so far.
@centaurora913
@centaurora913 6 ай бұрын
In some cases, there actually can be permanent damage. I know multiple people who have spinal cord injur, complete or incomplete and paraplegia.
@margaretneanover3385
@margaretneanover3385 3 жыл бұрын
It's not all that drastic as urgency...it can be. I thought that is normal.
@katyerra
@katyerra 5 жыл бұрын
My tethered cord was not found until I was 62 years old, then doctors said surgery may not relieve my pain at all and it might be too risky to try because of my age... ain’t that just my luck ? Finally a diagnosis of where the pain is coming from, but too late to fix it. I’m considering trying epidural treatment.
@ew5770
@ew5770 5 жыл бұрын
What were your symptoms?
@ocrun6765
@ocrun6765 3 жыл бұрын
Were you able to ever get a treatment for your tethered cord?
@bonniemoerdyk9809
@bonniemoerdyk9809 3 жыл бұрын
katyerra...I'm 65, and I'm wondering if TC is my problem for all these years. If you do epidural, check to see if you have Pain Management Doctors in your area...that's what they do all the time...versus a doc who may only do it on occasion.
@katyerra
@katyerra 3 жыл бұрын
@@bonniemoerdyk9809 it was the Pain Management specialists that found and diagnosed my condition.
@katyerra
@katyerra 3 жыл бұрын
@@ew5770 Pain. Horrible pain that eventually spread through my hips and legs, as well.
@tahireyyubov7086
@tahireyyubov7086 2 жыл бұрын
Hi , my father also has chiari 2 , is there a solution for this?can it be fixed ?
@margaretneanover3385
@margaretneanover3385 3 жыл бұрын
What happens when the adult ends up with a tethered cord ? The symptoms that seem to match like the child's but not exactly are the extra ...they say rare. Is that what I'm about to go through with filum? It sounds not good.
@PinkPanther70
@PinkPanther70 3 жыл бұрын
My tethered cord was diagnosed at age 21 and I had surgery at age 23. Some of the things said in this video, doesn't correspond with the view of other neurosurgeons. But I'd advise you to become a member of the Facebook group on TC. You might find advice on finding a surgeon to help you.
@jillcohen38
@jillcohen38 2 жыл бұрын
@@PinkPanther70 can you help? I believe my son has this. He is 22 now and has EDS. As well as POTS and Eosinophilic esophagitis. Getting an MRI lumbar spine soon... who was your neurosurgeon??
@liamreagan3477
@liamreagan3477 4 жыл бұрын
We have a 2 year old exhibiting very strong signs of tethered coed. We are desperate to find a dr somewhere in MO to look into it. Any advice for us?
@kenzielederer5695
@kenzielederer5695 3 жыл бұрын
I’m in KC mo and was having tc symptoms. We went to dr clough and his NP in KC and she didn’t see anything so we had to travel to Dr. Klinge in Rhode Island and she dx me with occult tethered cord and did surgery in March of this year.
@liamreagan3477
@liamreagan3477 3 жыл бұрын
@@kenzielederer5695 we found Dr. Puccioni in Omaha and he quickly diagnosed TC. Our son is having his surgery in December. We are very thankful to have found a resolution and I'm happy to hear you did also!
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