CUMMINS LOW RAIL PRESSURE, Troubleshooting tips!

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Horsetorques Diesel

Horsetorques Diesel

Жыл бұрын

Going back to our how to stuff for a second. This is troubleshooting a low rail pressure issue on your 03-07 Cummins Common Rail Fuel System

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@joshuaquilliam2887
@joshuaquilliam2887 Жыл бұрын
So nice to see a mechanic actually diagnose a problem vs throwing parts and others money at it.
@waylenbrowning3491
@waylenbrowning3491 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video man! A good mechanic will always check basic things first and not try to throw expensive parts in awesome job
@jamesmarlar696
@jamesmarlar696 Жыл бұрын
Great video it shows that not everything is a big issue and people need better maintenance
@colinlawrence2186
@colinlawrence2186 Жыл бұрын
Great video Josh I'm sure a lot of people will learn from it don't over think problems always check the basics As always take care stay safe and God bless 🙋🏻‍♂️🇬🇧
@justinkough8990
@justinkough8990 Жыл бұрын
Right on thank you for the knowledge drop and the reminder of the back to basics simplest/cheapest fix first process of elimination!
@briangarvey4936
@briangarvey4936 Жыл бұрын
As a 3rd gen owner I enjoy these issue trucks an dive into diagnoses and ultimately the fix videos. keep it up Josh. I still have no idea why your channel isn't growing faster cuz you deserve it!!! PS I love the intro on the Dyno when you try to mash the skinny pedal through the firewall!! Ha I guess that's how you get all the horsetorques out!!!!!!
@N.A.J.
@N.A.J. Жыл бұрын
I too am a field mechanic. Many times it's the simple issues that customers overlook. It takes a patient eye to find the simple issues. As to why his channel is not growing faster. Simple answer are the shorts. Seems the youtube algorithm caters to content creators that create those short videos. I've watched it happen to other channels I follow. Minimal growth, start creating one short a week, and subscribers follow.
@justinadickes4770
@justinadickes4770 Жыл бұрын
Always awesome to get someone out thw door for the cheap and the right fix, thanks for the basic diag steps to get us going
@horsewhispererr
@horsewhispererr Жыл бұрын
I am a mobile mechanic, and josh, you nailed it!! 90% of the time its simple stuff so I agree to always start at the basics. Excellent video to help trouble shooting.
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel Жыл бұрын
Thank ya!
@crohnsn2446
@crohnsn2446 6 ай бұрын
question for both of you guys? 05 5.9 starts beautifully keeps good rail pressure but take the rpms up to 2k and let off the throttle and the revs hang and bounce on the way down. Injector pintals not seating?
@kevinpeterson9659
@kevinpeterson9659 Жыл бұрын
This is the type of stuff everyday people want to see. Keep it up!
@joeykane2577
@joeykane2577 Жыл бұрын
Sweet truck, great to see there's still honest mechanic's out there.
@ericmillier6652
@ericmillier6652 Жыл бұрын
I just went through the same thing on my 06. I went through the same trouble shooting steps you have described I the video. Turns out mine was the CP3. Great video and this is amazing information!
@Cummintakeit
@Cummintakeit 15 күн бұрын
I like that you didn’t edit out the part about the battery being too dead to start it… man that’s too real lol
@jonathanmangan2642
@jonathanmangan2642 11 күн бұрын
Had me laughing 😂
@diesel_enduro
@diesel_enduro Жыл бұрын
Good job brother keep this type of stuff coming
@wyattbarry4786
@wyattbarry4786 Жыл бұрын
Learn something new in every video! Thanks again!
@chaslittle6521
@chaslittle6521 Жыл бұрын
Great video brother, keep up the good work!! I appreciate all your videos!
@ClarksAutoAndPerformance
@ClarksAutoAndPerformance Жыл бұрын
I've cut a fuel line and welded the end shut to build a cap off the rail. I use it to individually block off each injector to test and drive on five cylinders. This method will narrow down the issue 100%.
@rhegafd
@rhegafd Жыл бұрын
I fricken love this channel and I dont even own a diesel. Used to have a 2000 2500 Diesel Cummins. It was awesome. Blow by ended up being the reason I got rid of her. 300k miles. I wish I had gotten it rebuilt.
@Balakay9435
@Balakay9435 Жыл бұрын
Hell Yeah Brother 🇺🇸🦅
@bernhard8540
@bernhard8540 Жыл бұрын
Love these videos man it helps a lot of people that thinks some of these issues are migger things and end up chasing it for a long time spending a lot of money when its just a super simple thing. Gauges for things like fuel pressure and etc are super handy for any vehicle but especially for diesels❤❤❤ love the content as always man❤❤
@slowaf12v
@slowaf12v Жыл бұрын
Very informative video josh!!!
@jordanparker8359
@jordanparker8359 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video brother chasing this issue in my 6.7 going to be doing these tips
@lyndonhamby7432
@lyndonhamby7432 Жыл бұрын
Good job Josh 👍👍
@livewoutwarning7
@livewoutwarning7 Жыл бұрын
Had a fuel pressure issue on my '12 a few months back, turns out the #6 connecting tube was loose. Friend had a feeling and turns out that was it. My first diesel so a crazy find to me!
@Tinkerer4Life-pp2dg
@Tinkerer4Life-pp2dg 9 ай бұрын
Great video. Still sorting through my long start issue on my 04.5. I put in new fuel pressure relief valve and new fuel filter. The problem still exists. Waiting on banjo bold threaded adapted to test lift pump pressure, and go from there I guess.
@mbdiesel
@mbdiesel Жыл бұрын
Like the troubleshooting videos!
@fanninrebel03
@fanninrebel03 Жыл бұрын
Keep the diag videos comin. Good stuff
@devlinking7476
@devlinking7476 7 ай бұрын
I love watching your videos you explain things well and I learn a lot from you. But I’m curious about what I can do to start to learn more about Cummins specifically. I’d love to work in a shop and gain more knowledge in these engines as I have a passion for them
@danielreyna4972
@danielreyna4972 10 ай бұрын
Really good video!!
@gdc5ind
@gdc5ind Жыл бұрын
Great video
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@73cjproject
@73cjproject Жыл бұрын
Start simple, best advice there is. Is there any decent way to test the injectors without sending them off? I have an 05 with 314k on the odometer but I bought it used with 280k and no idea how many miles are actually on them. I plan to go up in size along with some compounds and cp3 for the future but don't want to wait too long and wash out a cylinder with a stuck injector. The truck runs great but want to make sure I don't miss the signs of a bad injector. Thanks for always bringing great content!
@haveawonderfulday2637
@haveawonderfulday2637 11 ай бұрын
As an owner of a 5.9(not a 3rd gen) but definitely love the info as I’m trying to learn how to take care of my truck. What kind of tool do you use to watch your numbers? Everyone keeps saying to put on an extra filter, but I have had no problem with using Baldwin/kn filters.
@tylerlockler6899
@tylerlockler6899 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. What are your thoughts on the 03,04 piston style vs the 04.5 to 06? Looking at getting into an early third gen 5.9.
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel Жыл бұрын
Just depends on goals
@ryanorr5755
@ryanorr5755 Жыл бұрын
did you ever check the fuel rail relief valve? trying to find a relevant video on youtube that does this. i have a truck that will build fuel pressure, commanded, and actual match up but once you let off the pedal, the commanded drops while actual stays high until the pressure naturally releases through the injectors
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 Жыл бұрын
When you got in the 2nd time and mentioned the fuel pressure gauge I thought why didn’t you look on the test drive? Lol we all have those days😅
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel Жыл бұрын
No clue! I was like oh well, roll with it
@wheyez1
@wheyez1 Жыл бұрын
Hey Josh, can you do something on tuners? And do you sale them in your shop?
@hey_youtubeim_back2159
@hey_youtubeim_back2159 Жыл бұрын
My truck is exhibiting the same symptoms. My fuel filter is good do you think that 215,000 Mi on the factory injectors means they're bad.? Should they be replaced with that many miles on them
@amcproW
@amcproW Жыл бұрын
what is a good running factory lift pump make for fuel pressure?
@kwick818
@kwick818 6 ай бұрын
my 4th gen started doing the same damn thing tonight. Hope to god it's a fuel filter, but they've still got 73% life left. Maybe some water or something? Just got through a wicked cold snap where im from where she sat frozen for a couple weeks.
@darrickissinger3932
@darrickissinger3932 Жыл бұрын
Dude, I chased my connecting tubes not being torqued properly for a month. I would have never thought that 44 ft lbs would cause so much pain
@alnighter791
@alnighter791 2 ай бұрын
I have an 2004 plenty of fuel to the cp3 replaced fca, pressure relief valve, pressure sensor and still no fuel coming out of cp3 to the rail or the return going to replace batteries bc cause of fan clutch code and low voltage code figured it would start with jump pack but didn't any ideas would be appreciated
@baconcreek609
@baconcreek609 Жыл бұрын
Good tech
@aaronsowinski1617
@aaronsowinski1617 Жыл бұрын
I know its something all cr's have in common but is there a safe way of removing the rev hang? being a 3rd gen 6 speed owner it can get annoying in between shifts or even free revving. I've looked into everything and it seems like its just leftover rail pressure. I changed my prv and still hangs... although it returns to idle slightly better.
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel Жыл бұрын
Tuning will calm it down
@ignacioorozco5080
@ignacioorozco5080 Ай бұрын
hello to everyone I watching this video and I had the same issue the high pressure rail was dropping down I check everything you did and sent the injectors out to be test them and they found out 4 injectors out of the 6 injectors, I installed all injectors and now I have a problem I haven't be able to fire up again after I installed the injectors I monitoring the dired high pressure vs actual pressure and I only getting 22 psi the lift pump is fulling all the way up top off the filter housing, any tips you can give me I will really appreciate it. 😟
@ruthlessronniethemechanic5639
@ruthlessronniethemechanic5639 Жыл бұрын
Battery's are cashed. It's amazing how fuel can create so many issues
@iamnoone.
@iamnoone. Жыл бұрын
Had the same trouble after installing cat filters on my 6.7 found lift pump weak. Would pump ok on factory filter but not on cat filter. I don't want to go back with oem lift pump looking around for a good aftermarket pump. Any advice
@jhawkins886
@jhawkins886 Жыл бұрын
Fass or airdog
@stevenmiller3330
@stevenmiller3330 Жыл бұрын
Firepunk has the airdog 165 on sale $650
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel Жыл бұрын
Airdog hands down
@joshuaquilliam2887
@joshuaquilliam2887 Жыл бұрын
I would go Airdog, this is coming from a Fass customer. I wanted to go Airdog but they were out of stock. Customer support blows with Fass, or consider the gdp fuel boss mechanical pump.
@mattcoy2817
@mattcoy2817 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a fuel injector return line test to check for an individual injector problem large isx Cummins will sometimes have excessive return line flow giving it a low rail pressure code
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ll cap them one at a time when I get to injectors. You can usually narrow it down on a kill test
@patg3424
@patg3424 Жыл бұрын
I have the Edge cts monitor and it displays everything including rail pressure, lift pump pressure etc and has a built in scan tool. Good to have.
@briangarvey4936
@briangarvey4936 Жыл бұрын
Pat have you figured out how to get the actual and desired to show? I have the cts3 on my 07.5 6.7 and for some reason cant get it to show both it only shows the actual twice..
@mynameisprivate8763
@mynameisprivate8763 Жыл бұрын
I need help! 05 dodge .... started cutting out wanting to die at stop or red lights. Scanned and was told had two bad injectors. Ordered 6 reman'd Bosch 3 year warranty from Thoroughbred Diesel. Installed them. Original issue no longer there. Idles fine. Under a load it runs rough like a fuel ping and smokes. Went through the injectors checking for proper alignment with new Bosch feed tubes. Truck still the same. Changed the oil right after new injectors, thought might have fuel in th oil. Now appears that may have fuel in oil again. Fairly certain I didn't over fill it. But it is over full now. I can't tell from smell if there is diesel in the oil. If anyone can help me I would be eternally grateful!
@serhammalot01
@serhammalot01 6 ай бұрын
So if I have fuel rail hang then my lift pump is bad?
@romeovilleda2504
@romeovilleda2504 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget a fuel sample always
@JuanVazquez-gg8nc
@JuanVazquez-gg8nc 8 ай бұрын
Awesome videos …I have a crank but no start on a 2000 5.9 24 valve any idea what to check…I checked all my fuses and good, fuel filter is good, starter is good, batteries are good …I’m kind of lost we’re else to look, any help would be very appreciated
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 8 ай бұрын
Check fuel pressure would be the first place to start
@JuanVazquez-gg8nc
@JuanVazquez-gg8nc 8 ай бұрын
@@horsetorquesdiesel i did but nothing ….honestly I picked up a fuel injection pressure tester @ o’reilys…would that work for a diesel ?
@stevenf.5835
@stevenf.5835 2 ай бұрын
@@JuanVazquez-gg8ncdid you find what was wrong with it?
@JuanVazquez-gg8nc
@JuanVazquez-gg8nc 2 ай бұрын
@@stevenf.5835 yes …the fuel pump in the gas tank wasn’t getting power
@kobybruggman5020
@kobybruggman5020 Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by retro fitted? My truck has one and I cam seem to find it. What am I missing?
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel Жыл бұрын
Dealer installed in tank lift pump it was a recall
@kobybruggman5020
@kobybruggman5020 Жыл бұрын
@Horsetorques Diesel so would I still go with a 03-04 air dog system or would I have to switch to a later year?
@marrag1
@marrag1 Жыл бұрын
I drive a 04.5 Ram 3500 around last September it started spitting black smoke out the tailpipe and wouldn’t go over 30mph and it was throwing a code P0148 so I replaced the injection pump and then it wouldn’t start anymore. Took it to a shop near me, they managed to get it to start and said I need new injectors. Brought them new injectors and they kept my truck for 2 months never installed them. Took the truck back from them and tried to install the injectors myself after watching your videos on injector installs. Installed them and my truck still won’t start. The shop told me to crack the injector lines open to bleed air out which doesn’t make sense cause it’s a common rail system. Now it’s at another shop been sitting for a month still not looked at yet. The other shop mechanic thinks it might be the ECM since I replaced the injectors, cp3, fuel rail, prv, FCA, return lines, almost everything. I replace the stock lift pump with an air dog raptor 4g over a year ago before it broke down. Any idea why it will not start after I replaced everything on the fuel system?
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel Жыл бұрын
There’s a lot, if you are local bring us the truck I can fix it
@marrag1
@marrag1 Жыл бұрын
@@horsetorquesdiesel unfortunately I live in Buffalo, NY. I would’ve been ecstatic to bring it to you lol.
@Bhain4
@Bhain4 Жыл бұрын
Where are you located? I could use some troubleshooting help? Gladly pay you if you can diagnose what’s wrong with mine!
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel Жыл бұрын
Abingdon VA
@fentonhathaway2668
@fentonhathaway2668 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a video on torquing the tunes?
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel Жыл бұрын
What?
@fentonhathaway2668
@fentonhathaway2668 Жыл бұрын
@@horsetorquesdiesel sorry, the tubes you were talking about. New lift pump, new relief valve, new filter, and it still, jerks, jerks, jerks under a load.
@mystycim
@mystycim 9 ай бұрын
Just did a new engine an i`m trying to troubleshoot why my truck don`t want to start. New CP3, New Fass 165, new Bosch FRP Relief valve.
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel 9 ай бұрын
If it doesn't build enough rail it won't. Seen it be a bunch of stuff Leaking tubes Bad sensor Bad wiring Incorrect plumbing Loose cp3 nut
@mystycim
@mystycim 9 ай бұрын
@@horsetorquesdiesel or a idiot like me realized I didn't install the camshaft position sensor
@mystycim
@mystycim 9 ай бұрын
@horsetorquesdiesel installed the sensor for cam, replaced the crank sensor and its trying to hit off but not fully, cts3 says rail pressure is 4 to 8k range.
@David_Palmieri5.9
@David_Palmieri5.9 Жыл бұрын
Hey man! im building a 5.9 common rail HO g56 and i have a few questions for you! don't know how to get ahold of you on facebook so i hope you see this comment!
@stevenwilson2605
@stevenwilson2605 5 ай бұрын
Or you could have a bad fuel pressure regulator
@royclark6982
@royclark6982 Жыл бұрын
Should my lift pump pressure stay at 15psi after it stops and before the engine starts running ? My falls to 0psi .
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel Жыл бұрын
Eh the Enforcer destruction to date is the most expensive
@Bryan-FAA-certified
@Bryan-FAA-certified Жыл бұрын
So basically it was a fuel pump
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel Жыл бұрын
Yep, broken wire, no lift pump!
@mitchvankesteren6771
@mitchvankesteren6771 Жыл бұрын
It has to be so boring for you driving stock trucks for butt diags lol
@horsetorquesdiesel
@horsetorquesdiesel Жыл бұрын
Honestly it’s nice, reminds me of how cool my truck is
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