that’s not how that works at all. the money would be reinvested back into the business, and even then i highly doubt it would be going towards profits.

@@sj0nnie yeah and now they get the benefit of receiving 10% of whatever the company makes and will more than likely not have to do much or anything to receive that 10%. i don’t really see the problem here? it was a low ball offer, but i feel like these offers are made quite a lot on these types of shows.

@Pouty MacPotatohead i guess i don’t understand what the difference between “the money goes into the company” vs it just being an investment. the dude making the offer never said what the money was going to be for - i.e. marketing, product, etc.. so i mean he very well could pocket the “investment”, but so could any other person making the same type of deal, which again has been done many times on this show. so i still fail to see what the problem is lol 🙃

@@lemonkissed201 I pray u dont have a job in business

@@lemonkissed201 you would of taken the deal lmao

That's business!

I get that reference

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@@harrysachz6748 and it’s the funniest shit I’ve ever seen

No it's just regular theft.

They were just mad it worked off the bat and he didn't even have to negotiate on it; so then they fucked it up for him to try and get their own deals in.

Haha rich people bad

Robert Haifley Yes, they are.

@@roberthaifley269 I love that you felt the need to write a comment.

@@airvent6199 haha need to coment

Spat my coffee out reading that, reminded me of being a kid

@@dd.4910 I hated those friends.

Sounds like a deal my neighbor made with me about his wife.

"We can both share the car, you can use it whenever I am not using it." Goes on to use it all the time.

@@BlazRa creepy weirdo. FBI?

Well it'd kind of be a huge bombshell to the rest of their credibility if they let him continue with proceedings... LOL

@@benm5345 you missed the point mate 😃

He did not “miss the point”

Dragon? Is that how u pronoun shark in Brit accent

i thought he was just giving them that money

Bruh is this show called dragon cage or something in the ik😂

@@_-_-9396 dragons den, really close tho

This is Dragon's Den, not....Scam Cage

This is Shark Tank…

@@theEpicjosh365 shark tank is american this is dragons den

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Ok. Five seconds later : what?!

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Because it's the same people with that money since those movies were first made

That's because they are.

Jealous poor people

@@KA-vs7nl You even got what he'd say in a movie right lol!

Most stereotypes in movies are based on reality lol

@@MAILER-DAEMON wow u r so cool and badass, pls tell us more about how scamming works.

@@MAILER-DAEMON Emphasis on small, lol.

@sakku yeah I changed it

@@MAILER-DAEMON No that was clearly a joke

is "lambda male" a cool way to say autism?

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@@chigozie123 ⛏️

Beautiful

This one made me laugh so much haha.

Underrated

Yep. He knew what he was doing.

Much more than that, based on the owner's valuation

Yeah it’s just a really bad deal, I don’t why everyone is making into something it’s not. When they ask for 50% (which does happen) you don’t see the other dragons jumping in saying “what a minute, that just means you’re paying 50% of your investment back to yourself.” Yes, that’s how investing works if you’re doing it for a percentage of a company.

@@him050the thing i don't get is, he literally said "i'm going to give YOU all the money" who was he talking to? the company? or the woman? if he is mentally insane and was talking to the company, then yes, but if by any chance he was talking to the woman, then what he proposed was to give her the money, not the company

@@San-lh8us he would have meant the company. The rules of the show are that you have to get the investment you’ve asked for. The only negotiation is for the percentage of the company they give up.

coz that was so ridiculously unethical that even hardened businesspeople couldn't stomach it bahahaha

There are no sides. They’re independent.

@@jasonlovi8745 If this is like Shark Tank (American) then yes, but I don’t know this show so I’m gonna take your word for it

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They're competing for the contract…

They are villains but they have standards

There not tho , if never seen that Dragon before he's a scrummy dude but the others there are all well known for taking start ups and making the people who created them rich.

he was a sigma male, the others were all shrigma males.

@@wesjanson6979 correction: you and that dude is a smegma male while others are just normal business people.

That's just how business works. It's not so evil

Lol

For real I assumed he gives her 50k for 90% of the company and she gets the 50k herself and still owns 10%.

@@jimberry5318that's what any person with the smallest hint of reason would think, i don't know where the others pull that idea that the money is going somewhere else when he literally said "i'm going to give YOU all the money, the 50k"

@@jimberry5318 Yeah I might be slow, but I understood it that way as well.

50k thats one bad company😂

Yeah well that's why they are investors not business partners

@@yeshuaislord6880 Investing is having 10 shares of Amazon in your 401K. Stuff like this is taking advantage of other people.

​@@duncregI mean, the world lives in a system that wins from others misery...

@@sun_shine9555 That's a silly communist talking point.

​@@pineappleparty1624it's an accurate communist talking point

“Final offer”

"I'll give you a few seconds to talk about how you're going to say yes."

Has he ever pulled the “don’t talk to the other investors. If you don’t answer now I’m out.”

@Manuel Camelo Damn 2 minutes late rip 🥺☠️

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LMFAO

Never laughed so hard man,you got me🤣

With love from me to me

Gold 🥇

Big brain activity

Her: Yeah, I guess that sounds alright

You had me at dead babies I'm in

​@@Dilapidated_DiloHey, you won't get caught if the baby won't make noise.

​@@dinuffinparents

@@thetrickster9885 What?

@@dinuffin i was saying parents of the ded beby can catch him

u can control a business with less then 50% just depends on what your role is

@@joebainbridge2636 you can control it with more than 25% of it

@@joebainbridge2636 You cannot control a business with less than 50% ownership. You don't have the legal right. You can operate it, but whatever the majority says, goes.

Giving someone who is a capable businessman >50% of your business could be a fine idea. They'll likely be able to run the company better than these random folks.

@@nacho1595 i mean you defo can as it happens in football (soccer if your american) in the german league the owners own 49% of the club while the fans own 51%

You're not gonna get a lot of likes with unoriginal comments edit, ye i know he has lot of likes. Still copy paste unoriginal. I could fart and you people would find it funny..

That was on the 2nd chapter of the art of war

'The Fart Of War'

@@Nutty... shart?

@@Nutty... The Art of Fart

I agree with this so much but they didnt do a contract or anything so maybe the deal was called off

Demeaning's not the word you're lookin for, if anything the offer's a flattering testament to how good the pitch was.

He thinks he can because he can. He obviously done this before

Art of the deal. Go stupidly high and then negotiate for lower. Except he went a little too far in this one

Well she did agree so he might have thought correctly.

It wouldn't go to the people running it either way. It's an investment so it's into the business

It does go to the people running it. I didn’t see this episode but if it’s like Shark Tank then the investors are buying percentages of the company. The owners that come on the show are usually asking the investors for money so they can reinvest it and grow their business. They COULD use the money they get from the investors on anything they want but the investors would like the owners to reinvest the money into the business. That’s what this guy was asking them to do. The problem is he was offering to buy 90% of the business which would make HIM the new owner of the business. It makes no sense to reinvest the money you got from selling 90% of your business back into that same business when you only own 10% of it. You effectively sold the business so they should take the money and run if they agreed to sell 90%. His plan would only make sense if he was asking for less than 50%.

@@SunlightGwynWrong. It isn’t a personal cheque to the people involved. It’s paid into their business for a stakehold.

Now it makes sense to me, I didn't understand why it was a problem, thought he was just buying 90% shares of their company.

@@umangjain293 no, the business is normally to buy the stake of the company but that money is invested in the company, not to pay the owners. This is about investment not buying companies. However sometimes a shark wants to buy the whole company and that is, they pay the owners and they leave with the money. Here the guy was mixing both business, he was buying almost the entire company but the owner wasn't getting paid because the money was being invested.... in a business they would no longer own.

@@mikatu aaah thanks man..I was confused wondering why it was that bad cause I thought he was buying the bussiness from her while she still owns a part of it.. and I ve seen shark tank guys buy 100% of the companies too... Its not good if it isn't either of the two options ig? Either buying small shares or completely buying it..

I don’t think the woman would finance 10% of it like you said, she would just own it no? The rest is true though.

The dragons have it wrong, your first statement is correct. Tuca is wrong that his money would go to the business and he'd be paying himself

persuasion check failed haha. Mission failed, we'll get em next time!

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What tbe fuck is even that?

@@PhilL30tard0 he's a sigma male

@@PhilL30tard0 Shush beta, only sigmas understand this.

@@fpengelbrecht9314 Sounds like someone doesn’t know the current meme floating around, which is a real beta move.

@@fpengelbrecht9314 understandable

Nigga I I thought that was a serpent!

@@frostnova2144 you're thinking of the midgaurd serpent

@@frostnova2144 dragons are serpents

"it is" own tail?

@@hansorsic7387 Not All serpents are dragons

Not only that, basically he was cheating them into starting the company, getting everything ready for him and them they will work for him for 10% of everything they have done.

Next day: "You're fired"

ok and

@@jaypolas4136 and That's it

@@jaypolas4136 Ask Joe

@Prick, Scumbag College Nah

now how this comment has this amount of likes wtf

Or she has the best poker face in existence

@jeffery allen It ain't a lot in business terms. It's practically nothing. You are better off getting a bank loan

it's a good deal if the lady is completely useless and can't run a business. If she came up with only the idea then she can take 10% of profits for just that

@jeffery allen it really is not. If you have a good enough business idea a bank would give you a loan. 50k ain't much.

@jeffery allen when you give up 90% of your business for 50k your business never had a future to begin with

Ther is nothing for me here

THANK YOUU they always wanna give only like 25% no matter how valuable it is as if they’re not on a national TV show that probably makes them more money than their store.

im taking all the risk here

@@aznbigboyjo3 came to comment this 😂

@@jc-px8ox same, he beat me to it. 🤣🤣🤣👍🏻

This the most accurate name for that show I ever heard

Pretty pretty pretty good return on your investment.

@@eddyp483 is that a reference to if you can't hang by sws 👻

This would be a win for the kid, since he would get 10% of the candy for free. It was Touker's money anyway. Bad analogy

@Vivekamunund Once Said wow, i didn't realize "show replies" enabled verbose mode.

Nah it’s more Kid: “Can I buy some candy” Touker: “Sure, but you have to buy it with your own money, and I get 90%.”

Ita more like a kid asking for 10 pieces of candy and the dad saying "ok but in return i get 9 pieces of that candy"

It's worse than that.

It was a baby change mat that stops babies from rolling over.

ayo😳

😂

😭

Hahaha

Oww

Dragon more like

@@happiestaku6646 Lol America really stole this idea from these people and created Shark Tank

@@bre7931 Tbf… American Television steals most concepts/ideas from the Brits. The only difference is the humor factor. American humor is more risqué and sexual, while British humor is often called “dry”, but I’d like to think that it’s just intellectually driven. If you’re not paying attention, jokes can sometimes fly over your head, but all in all I prefer more Eastern Television than Western. Ik nobody asked, but even with the low budget, and less flashy colors-Eastern television has stronger plots, than most Western programs. Here in America, it’s just rly flashy, and the plots only hold for a season or two at minimum-three to four seasons at best. Eventually, the plot falls through, and you’re left unfulfilled bc the show gets canceled with a cliffhanger. Examples of stolen ideas: The Office, Being Human, Law and Order, Shark Tank, which I’ve all seen both versions personally-But I’m sure there’s more.

@@WOLFGANG634 Never saw being human but I prefer the American version of The Office. Law and Order is alright but that show is older than I am at this point

@@bre7931 i’m fairly certain they had permission. also the idea originated in japan anyway.

Exactly which dragon are you?

@@isaacwilson7769 They didn't say they were one. Reality television didn't invent business pitches. While we're at it, the court room wasn't invented by Judge Judy

@@gutar5675 Thanks for clearing that up for me pal, I had no idea.

@@isaacwilson7769 I think it's Duncan Bannantyne

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I love to still see, in 2024, roachDoggJr in absolutely any random video

@Andrew Aydie But the most efficient because it gives the illusion of democratic choice as its delusion of freedom

@Andrew Aydie I concur with your altruistic idealism (my terminology). Unfortunately human nature is all over the spectrum and greed/self-justification seems our most powerful incentive. Many millennia have sought a system of fairness/equilibrium that has worked for the shortest of terms before descending into a mire of beaurocratic self-interest. I wholeheartedly wish it were otherwise, but history is a repeatable offence

Mind you though you'd have to be a fucking idiot to take that guy up on his "deal" yeah right more like theft

@Andrew Aydie capitalism is nature, its a free for all where its not that hard to get rich, especially if you're privileged enough to be born in America. If you dont like nature then you're welcome to die.

@Andrew Aydie good luck with retiring from society dude, if you wanna live in the boonies thats on you. Humans are flawed and will always be flawed - thats a fact. What we have today is simply the natural result of human nature. You cant change that. Any utopian structure people try to come up with always neglects this crucial fact of human nature which is why things like communism simply wont work very well. The only thing we can do is implement small and beneficial adjustments in the law within a capitalist system, which is also what we are already doing. The world needs rich people and the world needs poor people. That's nature.

Judging by your username, I 100% believe that you would say that

@@b8IIin I raised a few eyebrows when I decided to name my KZfaq channel this. My response was I was born this way I might as well own it and have some fun with it. Life's too short to be angry all the time

@@ThecrosseyedTexan Agreed, Godspeed my man

@@ThecrosseyedTexan Preach brother. I’m 36 and been on the spectrum (ADHD Bi Polar) all my life. I owned my hyper moody distracted self and never looked back. Preach!

Yeah I did too.

Same brothr

IKR dude's like: "Wait, what...?"

He gave her a shit offer because the business is shit

No, he was basically mocking the business.

He had to wear her hopes down and pretend he's being merciful after to make her think she couldn't do better, she didn't even realize she was just giving away the company bc of how demeaning he was.

no, the 50k go to the company, he now owning the company essentially makes the 50k go to himself, not even a purchase.

I agree, this whole clip is kind of dumb.

no it's an investment accompagnied by a transfer of ownership. There's no cash payout of goodwill. Basically what remains for them is a 10% share, valued at £5556, which may or may not pay out for them.

@@blasrouan2554 exactly

@@jakejakeboom did u not understand the transaction?

😆

Yeah free office space but without a company

Nah the deal isn't secured for awhile they would've figured it out

I think her saying ok was like “ok I’ve heard you, next dragon” not “ok I accept”

@@Sheena000 exactly that "ok" was a woman saying "ok, this is on TV so i'll stay polite and professional and act like I did not heard that".

@@Sheena000 Yeh at 0:15 you can see her looking confused at his ridiculous offer, and when she says okay she’s clearly smirking.

@@primadeluxe4910 There's doubt that this experienced shark would have tried something like this out unless there was a genuine chance for success

You don't get rich in business, by spending your own money.

@@lobitome that doesnt quite apply here

How does it NOT apply? It's literally the definition of that phrase.

Basically I thought he was trying to say just take 50,000 for the business you keep that then 90% of the Company is mine ?

Actually, there are plenty of business folk like him.

She do!

Underrated comment..

It's an equivalent to "Shark Tank", but it's called "Dragon's Den". So the implication is more like you're trying to steal from a dragon's hoard, because they're old and rich.

Its a show, thats the point.

It's because they're dragon their balls across your face as they take your money.

They should be called parasites.

@Black Stone Well, are they helping or are they just taking advantage of them?