TASCAM Portacapture X8 32-bit float HDR Audio Recorder

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In this week’s episode, we have a look at and listen to the Tascam Portacapture X8 32-bit float audio recorder. This hand-held sound recorder includes a set of stereo microphones (X/Y and A/B) plus 4 XLR microphone/line inputs. With its 32-bit float capabilities, it can record wide dynamic range audio and when you’re recording spoken word or singing vocals, even if the levels exceed 0dB, you can recover the audio in post production. We have a closer look at the features and performance in this extensive review.
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Index:
00:00 Start
00:12 Summary
00:22 Recorded with X8 and RODE NT1
01:21 4 XLR/TRS inputs
01:45 32-bit float HDR recording
02:33 Sample rates 44.1 to 192kHz
02:48 +24 or +48V phantom power
02:58 Practical noise sample
04:22 microSD cards
04:48 Included stereo microphones
05:43 3.5mm input and output
05:53 Headphone jack
06:10 In-build speaker
06:23 Bluetooth app control Android/iOS
06:51 Handling noise
07:13 Power options and performance
07:51 USB-C audio interface for computer or mobile
08:12 Pre-record
08:47 Color touch screen
09:06 Easy modes
09:39 Podcast sound pads
09:53 Effects - Low cut, limiter, compressor, EQ
10:22 Mounting options
10:36 Warranty
10:48 Plastic build
11:34 Limited dynamic range relative to other 32-bit float recorders
12:38 Recover clipped audio sample
13:59 USB Audio Interface 24-bit max
14:14 Handling noise
15:12 No redundant recording media
15:44 Reflective screen
15:56 Arm then record?
16:45 192kHz sample rate hum above 20kHz
17:23 Need windshield for outdoor recording
17:52 Price
18:05 My recommendation
20:23 ZOOM H6, H8, or Portacapture X8
24:11 Please buy my courses

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@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

This video is normalized to -23 LUFS so that I didn't have to do any post processing and so you can hear how it sounds directly out of the recorder.

@OMTEKNO 2 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to apply internal effects such as compressors and preset effects to the audio that has been recorded on this recorder?

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

@@OMTEKNO While it is recording, yes.

@DanielSRosehill 2 жыл бұрын

I think you've mentioned in a few videos that - 23 LUFS is broadcast standard but - 16 LUFS is often preferred for online distribution. Any chance you could expand upon this in a future video?

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSRosehill Yes, here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLWqja52vLCZp58.html

@philosophiaentis5612 Жыл бұрын

Which one has better preamps, the Tascam DR100 MKIII or the Portacapture X8?

@geraldundone 2 жыл бұрын

Great coverage, Curtis! Thanks.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Gerald!

@KyleSVT 2 жыл бұрын

Always love a new Curtis Judd video! Thanks for making these videos, really helps to find what gear to get and just fun getting knowledge on things

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kyle.

@DJBooks1 2 жыл бұрын

I brought it two weeks ago. I was waiting for this review. I like the interface and ease of use. It's a great piece of kit.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

👍 Glad it works well for you!

@AlternativeKava 2 жыл бұрын

im having trouble using this as an interface for Cubase. I see all the channels in the input selection but when I hit record, there's no signal. may you please explain?

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

@@AlternativeKava Probably best to contact Tascam support for help. Best wishes!

@crowlsyong 2 жыл бұрын

Curtis I appreciate this. Here are some things I like (in no particular order) 1.) The notes at the beginning. Specifically the timing of them, like you understand that I can pause it if I need to which is great. 2.) Colors, I watch these at night sometimes and you keep the colors....gentle on my eyes 3.) You're cadence and voice. It's accurate, paced properly, clear, concise, relevant, and human. 4.) The info. You give us exactly what we need to know. 5.) Kindness. I see you pop up on other channels to comment sometimes and it's always kind, supportive, and makes me happy. 6.) Honesty honesty honesty. You tell it like it is. 7.) Have a great day man. Thanks for doing what you do. We random humans are ACTUAL humans that ACTUALLY appreciate you! Haha be well.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Geodesic Interpolation! PS - Do you so some sort of cartography or Geosciences work? Curious based on the name...

@thomasoppong8019 2 жыл бұрын

Man! Did you have to say it all? You stole all of my thoughts. I've been learning from Curtis since 2018. Much love Sir, you've helped me greatly.

@ernie548 2 жыл бұрын

I've had the DR100 MK3 for a couple years now and have not been disappointed. It has worked well even under fairly rough conditions, including heavy costal moisture in the air.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing, Ernie!

@kblam1 Жыл бұрын

Bought a Tascam Portacapture X8 on the strength of this clear and comprehensive review! Thanks, Curtis.

@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын

Happy recording!

@patentjohntran1283 2 жыл бұрын

Just got the X8 and really enjoying it thus far. Coming from a mixpre 6-ii, the large touchscreen and easy to navigate UI is a godsend. As Curtis points out, the flexibility/versatility is probably what is the best thing about the X8.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

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@maxhammer4067 9 ай бұрын

Does it sound as good as mixpre though there preamps are amazing

@aclarkedesign Жыл бұрын

On 32 bit Float…I don’t know about anyone else, but I never thought I’d see the day when you could record something with clipping or really low and still be able to adjust to make it sound good. Blows my mind.

@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын

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@luke144 2 жыл бұрын

Nice! I love it! I'm addicted to taking high quality audio samples of more than just speech. I really like this channel! Subscribed. Great video!

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Luke and happy recording!

@Jyotirmayshuva 2 жыл бұрын

Your review is by far the best and most elaborated with detailed explanation. Now waiting for your Zoom F8n Pro review and workflow because i am gonna have one next month :D

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

I have the F8n on pre-order so hoping to do that review soon.

@Whaever_1981 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! What a great review as always. Thanks so very much!!! :D

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

@AllenCavedo 2 жыл бұрын

There are many reasons why yours is an excellent review but let me comment on one aspect. The lighting and product presentation is the best in the business. The colorful background, controlled depth of field combined with high res image and sharp focus make a very engaging video.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Allen.

@vivaforever1606 2 жыл бұрын

20:24 You are amazing. That question was literally in my head and I was about to write that question in the comments. Great efforts, well appreciated.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

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@TipsterStu 2 жыл бұрын

You're great reviewer.... Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences... It's appreciated

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure! Thanks!

@d0jima 2 жыл бұрын

hahah, I love the expression when discussing the price. Thanks for another great review.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

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@rosshoyt2030 Ай бұрын

Easily the best review I've seen for this product (and similar). Thanks so much!

@curtisjudd Ай бұрын

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@DavidConnors Жыл бұрын

Very detailed review - nice work Curtis!

@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын

Thanks David.

@nikspring4188 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for another great review, Mr Judd.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nik.

@EVOlutionHTC4g 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Curtis for this review. Definitely not wasting my time or money on this device. Nice review.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Johnny.

@gummoman 2 жыл бұрын

im really waiting for this video. I have heard a lot of problems of the Portacapture X8 and I was waiting for your review to make a good decision.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

I hope it was helpful.

@jlaw8882 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent review, thanks for the attention to detail.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

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@cli23 2 жыл бұрын

Nice in depth review as always! Side note, love the edit at 18:03 😆

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

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@pianopotato 2 жыл бұрын

I like how you included a bit of musical use for this recorder Curtis. I won't be a buyer for this new Tascam recorder but it's a good trend to see 32 bit float recording now available in these consumer type recorders with onboard mic capsules. I use and love the Zoom F6 these days and have the H6 in my bag as backup when I'm recording my concerts. Thanks for the great video again!

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

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@MarkHarmer 2 жыл бұрын

Good choice! I have the same two recorders (and the F8n but will soon upgrade to F8n pro)

@madedigital 2 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for your review. I ordered it anyway for the 32bit and UI has great options. I say it's real weakness is it's main selling factor is the screen breaking also expensive. I don't have a high quality audio solution I had the DR 60 that I loved but this device covers alot of ground fast with presets. Thanks

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Happy recording!

@chriscutress1702 Жыл бұрын

I have a number of both Tascam and Zoom recorders in my studio and remote equipment collection and I recently added the Zoom H8 to my larder. What tipped the scales in it's favour was it's ability to record 10 XLR microphone sources at the same time (with the 4 mic adaptor). Nothing against Tascam as I have loved their equipment over the years (especially the 680 series) but currently Zoom has generally been a few steps ahead of Tascam in sound quality (I prefer the Zoom sound over the current Tascam sound) and function while bringing upgrades to market at a reasonable price. My favourite Zoom is still my F8N but the H8 is a great portable handheld option especially with the extra microphone inputs. The H8 also has the advantage of allowing me to use all the adaptors that I purchased for my H6 thus saving me money for the specialty adaptors already owned. The H6 is a great backup for remotes when I don't need the extra microphones or when I need to record the same audio from multiple perspectives beyond ten microphones. An example being recording fireworks from two locations without wanting to run extended cabling from one recording to distant wired microphones. Although another option was to run wireless microphones and receive at a single recorder.

@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын

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@PeterMossUkulele 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative video - Thank you Curtis.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter.

@michaelliuzzi Жыл бұрын

This was very helpful, thank you Curtis

@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын

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@GuitarsAndSynths Жыл бұрын

Excellent review and tips. Mine just came so I can record quality audio and use in tracks later on.

@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын

👍 Happy recording!

@mrheng562 2 жыл бұрын

Yup, waiting for that Zoom F3 review. Glad you mentioned it. 😂😂😂

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

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@KooroshAcademy Ай бұрын

Really powerful content. Thank you.

@curtisjudd Ай бұрын

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@PAZPERDEE Жыл бұрын

Great video, clear and concise, thanks and just subscribed 👍

@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын

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@dag221 2 жыл бұрын

I've been waiting/hoping you would do a review of this as there are not that many quality reviews out there for this recorder. I've been seriously considering getting this unit since it was announced but there seemed to be a a lot of minor bugs with it and I couldn't decide between this and the Sony PCM-D10. The Sony interface isn't as fancy as the Tascam but Sonys just seem to work. Thanks for the review.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome and happy recording to you!

@rich9785 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Curtis. Appreciate the vid. 👍💯

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

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@itdful 2 жыл бұрын

well, at the rist of making these comments seem repetitive, thank you for the wonderful video Curtis! An amazing review of a pretty unique product!

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Isaac.

@MichaelWTurner 2 жыл бұрын

Great info. Thanks!

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Michael.

@michaelmourek3879 2 жыл бұрын

Love your videos - keep up the good work -

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Michael.

@hb3393 2 жыл бұрын

Nice review thanks. I'm torn between the X8 and the Zoom F6 for recording rehearsals of classical music ensembles. 32 bit float is going to be a life saver so I'm sure either will be a big upgrade on a zoom h1!

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

I’d opt for the F6.

@stanleyalexandrowicz6074 Жыл бұрын

Hi Curtis, great review! (as always). I’m in the same situation - recording classical music (classical guitar specifically); is your preference for the Zoom F6 due to the quality of the preamps? Many Thanks.

@strongereveryday2302 2 жыл бұрын

I am very glad I watched this video before purchasing. The 192khz 32 bit is not really necessary for what I do and the other pitfalls were really deal killers for me, and I went with the Zoom H8 instead for its capsules and versatility.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Happy recording!

@barryobrien1890 2 жыл бұрын

Looks like a nice gui on top of the legacy tascam recorders. The 32 bit is nice for event recordings where there is occasionally poorly setup music, which can be very loud but not something that you can always pre setup. Overall it's a nice option for those that this fits their workflow. Thanks

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Barry. I do think the 32-bit float with dual converters moves it a tad ahead of their legacy tech.

@WilliamMorrisMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for mentioning the hum above 20kHz in the higher sample rate recordings. I was so excited about this recorder but going off the reviews it's just got too many issues to make me confident in buying it.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I wouldn't have noticed it since I do not usually record at 192kHz so we have to credit several audiophiles for pointing that out. I'm not sure why hum above 20kHz is a practical concern, but thought it should be mentioned.

@WilliamMorrisMusic 2 жыл бұрын

@@curtisjudd the concern is more for sound design purposes. When you record in the ultrasonic range you need to re-pitch those sounds to bring them into the human hearing range. So the hum on the X8 at 25kHz (even dropped by one octave) would become about 12.5kHz, well within human hearing.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

@@WilliamMorrisMusic fair point and I stand - happily - corrected. Thank you.

@WilliamMorrisMusic 2 жыл бұрын

@@curtisjudd you're very welcome good sir. It is probably one of the more niche uses for the recorder, for a lot of users it won't be an issue at all.

@NikCan66 2 жыл бұрын

This was excellent

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@doctormthebikingexperience1558 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Curtis lovely review as usual. I have always wanted to capture ambient sound for my videos in my rides. This fits the bill. And please re edit your pros you have repeated removable XY mic twice (unless I want to put it back on and remove it again to see it’s pros 😅)

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks and happy riding to you!

@chriscutress1702 2 жыл бұрын

Great review and demo but I think I'll stick with my Zoom H6, F8N and H3VR. I also use a Tascam 680 & 680 mk2, a DR-60D mkII, a DR-70D and a HDP2 so am familiar with both Zoom and Teac-Tascam units and have found both positives and negatives over time with both companies products. Lately I have found that the Zoom products seem just slightly better for my needs but I respect and use devices from both. Your reviews have helped me come to purchase decisions and kept me informed of the new products as they come available.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris. Happy recording!

@harold6583 Жыл бұрын

I just bought the zoom H6. its ooooooold tech and very limiting as a multitrack, returning it asap, unfortunately. nice as a simple mic though.

@explrr22 Жыл бұрын

As of September 2022, one advantage being seen in the touchscreen interface is the ability to revise and enhance the feature set offered. In the last year it gained solo monitoring of inputs and channels, Bluetooth timecode support, and ability to store and retrieve configurations for input dynamics as well as three customized configurations created in the manual mode or other app modes. Supposedly other stability fixes were also made in the firmware, and on release it clearly needed some. But unlike devices whose operation is heavily defined by physical control elements, the touchscreen UI allowed them to push the device out and later revise and enhance its feature set. At first it wasn't clear how much they'd do that, and perhaps they're done now, but they probably don't have to finished as room for more improvements remain.

@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the update.

@explrr22 Жыл бұрын

@@curtisjuddReally appreciate your reviews, they're kinda the go-to trusted source for me and others.. So thought this might be best place to post update. Not so related to the touchscreen interface, but it also gained the ability to serve a 32 bit interface to the computer... And the price currently has a $100 (20%) discount from the $500 release price. I'm suspecting that will stick, as it seems like where this quality level product should have been from the start... Just as your reaction to the initial price reflected. My guess is they rushed it out unpolished at a high asking price to grab the opportunity. ...The launcher wheel in the UI always had those three empty spots that were begging for a future function, Now there are three user system configs that drop into those spots on the launcher.

@LensVid 2 жыл бұрын

Great review as always Curtis. We will publish our own look at the X8 in a few weeks (we got it alongside some Tascam headphones). I really liked my old DR700D, it didn't have the best pre-amps or the most features but it was so easy to operate, much more intuitive than our current Mix Pre 3 workhorse (especially in advanced mode). Anyway, we will see how things go with this one - my perspective is going to be more on ease of operation as I believe this unit is not designed for the same target audience as the Mix Pre or even the equivalent Zoom recorders. P.S. did you see our Rycote mic review? we actually got them very early on but it took us forever to finish the review...

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to seeing your review! I haven't, will need to have a look at the Rycote review as well. 👍

@ChannelWright 2 жыл бұрын

Great review! It’s nice to learn about this device but it’s a little pricey considering it’s limitations. Glad I’ve got the F6!

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

👍 Happy recording!

@RajeshK231973 Жыл бұрын

Thanks dear curtis 💯

@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын

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@ww1www 16 күн бұрын

I have a bunch of recorders, but the X8 is probably the one I would keep if ai had to part all but one. It is a very good concept and gives you the most versaitility. A variety of inputs, a lot of ways you can attach mics to the recorder body. You also get a lot of functionality: it is a mixing board, a DSP processor, a mobile podcast studio. It can record 24 and 32 bit simultaneously. It has control apps for both iOS and Android. As audio interface it works both 24 or 32 bit now. Very- very close to perfect for my needs. And I am happy with the audio quality as well. Having said that I also have an F3 and an F8n Pro, and a few more. The X8 stacks up nicely. There are a few things in the software that could be improved on, but recording quality is on par. The only thing I find misleading is the headphone amplifier which is quity noisy. I thought it was preamp noise, but no, the recording is clean, just there is too much hiss in the headphones.

@curtisjudd 15 күн бұрын

Glad it works well for you!

@enriquemartin8655 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for your presentation.

@curtisjudd 7 ай бұрын

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@enriquemartin8655 7 ай бұрын

@@curtisjudd I was finally able to figure out how to record on the X8 from your presentation. Now am going to try to get recording connected to camera. Thank you

@Bermudaoficial 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! Happy recording!

@MisterMayhem17 Жыл бұрын

Im drooling right now

@JohnnySprings Жыл бұрын

Curtis , you are our audio King , thank you so much for explaining everything so thoroughly to us mere mortals!! I can’t make a single audio related purchase without checking out your opinions first! Let me ask you one thing my friend… I do a lot of video work with doctors, dentists and etc for social media… been using lavalier mics but wanted to step up my game , so I picked up a mkh 416 this week… would you say that this tascam would be a good combination with it?? I would use mostly for spoken word… Thank you so much my friend

@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын

Yes, that should work nicely.

@michaelmourek3879 2 жыл бұрын

Formating the disk is VERY IMPORTANT - Thanks

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Indeed.

@donnelson8524 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the excellent review; I've been waiting for your take on this unit. The X8 looks really interesting for many use cases, but I'm left wishing Tascam put the R&D into different areas. Personally, I'd rather have something like a Zoom H5 (smaller, more physical controls) but with improved preamps and headphone amp rather than 32bit recording and a big screen with lots of presets. The X8 looks like it might be a super versatile and popular device after a few minor revisions to fix it's early issues, but I'm left wondering if a Centrance Mixerface (top of my budget :-) might be a better option for my uses. Or maybe Zoom will upgrade the H5 with improved preamps :-) hope springs eternal! Anyway, thank you again so much for your excellent channel and review.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Don. I think it largely depends on what you record. 32-bit float on the Tascam for spoken word recording is quite good.

@lamenamethefirst 2 жыл бұрын

My ideal recorder at this form factor would be the H6 but with locking xlr inputs, locking faders, better preamps, better headphone amp and a quieter stereo mic. That's a lot I know but competitors offer all of that. What I like about the H6 is actually it's interface. Easy to control faders on the fly. Easy to arm/solo any track in the click of a button. The essentials are right in front of you and don't require a screen and menu to navigate.

@russtvmedia 2 жыл бұрын

I can't wait until you do a review of the Zoom F3. Also the F8n Pro.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Both on preorder. 👍

@alantuttphotography 2 жыл бұрын

Very much appreciate you taking a look at this. Some of your comments make me think that they only used a single A/D converter instead of using 2 to get a wider dynamic range. Of course, with previous Tascam recorders, the safety track option extends the dynamic range by 12dB, which can be handy in situations where this is needed. Personally, I'm most disappointed by the battery life. If you got about 4 hours with lithium batteries, that would suggest NiMH batteries would only get about 2 to 2.5 hours. This makes it a no-go for me, as I tend to use these types of recorders out in nature to get ambient recordings. My money would be better spent on a set of dedicated stereo mics to go with either my Tascam DR-44wl or DR-680mkII. (Something I have been considering, although not as convenient. Handling noise is another area of disappointment, especially since these devices are supposedly made to be held while recording.

@BushMasterThermal 2 жыл бұрын

Indeed exactly as i am thinking. Their stated Dynamic Range is only 112 dB ( Left completely out of public view for specifications and had to get through email contact with the engineering department ) For Reference these two other 32 Bit Float Recorders Zoom F6 has 132 dB Dynamic Range Sound Devices Mix Pre 3 ii Series Dynamic Range is 142 dB. So at 20 dB Dynamic Range Headroom Missing compared to a Zoom F6 and 30 dB ! vs Sound Devices Mix Pre ii... That's a whole LOT of missing Headroom! So where and how did Tascam Engineers Fail at this and huge amount of missing Dynamic Range especially for 32Bit Float

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

@@BushMasterThermal likely in the analogue preamps.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Alan. The safety track recording feature increases headroom but not overall dynamic range. I believe that they used multiple converters per input, but the relatively lower dynamic range of this device vs. the Sound Devices MixPre II series is likely due to poorer quality analogue preamplifiers.

@alantuttphotography 2 жыл бұрын

@@curtisjudd It's possible I misunderstood your comments regarding the dynamic range available, so I guess I'll watch for a comparison between this and another Tascam device to see if there's any advantage here in that regard. Regarding combining tracks to increase dynamic range, this requires special post processing and setting levels to put the louder portions of the track into the safety track (thus reducing the headroom normally reserved as a safety), but it can be done.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

@@alantuttphotography Yes, understood. Note that with the safety track recording, it is potentially a bit of a compromise because on the track recorded at -12dB, the noise floor is potentially closer to the sound source, or at best, the noise floor is different and so the job of blending that can be somewhat complex. It really depends on how they implement the safety track recording feature. If they're just using a pad, it may not sound the same as if they actually used a second preamplifier with 12 dB less gain applied (like on the ZOOM F series recorders).

@vaidehiarts 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the review.. Now waiting for Zoom H6-II with 32 bit float, USB-C connection and faster bootup. For now, the Zoom H5 continues to be budget convenience king (along with F4 for more 'pro' work)

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Happy recording!

@tfransson 2 жыл бұрын

Agree, I got the XLR-module for my H5. I can use it for lavs that do not require phantom power. With backup recording it will protect from clipping in most situations. The XLR inputs I use for boom mics. In a dialogue or interview setup it will give you three recordings of the same source, plenty to work with. The signal from the boom mic needs to be pretty hot, like Rode NTG5. Using the optional remote, removes handling noises. Adjusting gain is out with the remote but you can start, stop the recording and playback. In addition, the H5 takes full size SD cards. microSDs are more fragile. Mini USBs are sturdier than micro, also a feature of H5. Why Zoom chose microUSB for H8 is beyond reason.

@OMTEKNO 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Now Tascam and Zoom are on the same pace 😍. I really like the design of TASCAM Portacapture X8. The UI is absolutely simple yet futuristic.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

I do like the UI quite a bit more on the X8 vs. the ZOOM H8 and H6.

@nexuses1 2 жыл бұрын

I've been looking at the Zoom H recorders for a few years now and couldn't get my head around the fact that they still don't use USB C. So bought this immediately (can't use your links for EU), but did subscribe :-)

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Happy recording!

@naturesessions.studio Жыл бұрын

So in depth

@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын

👍

@naturetalkspt Жыл бұрын

Looks grate. I will think upgrade my XR40 to one of this. :)

@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын

Happy recording!

@LMoProVisualComm 2 жыл бұрын

Could not wait for your review... I'm upgrading from the DR-100MK iii It's sad they didn't include an INTERNAL LITHIUM BATTERY like the old version...

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Oh, yes, I completely forgot about that. The DR-100mkII also had that.

@claytonmoore2091 2 жыл бұрын

Good job as usual. Seems to me that 32 bit is best as a single operator tool when you cannot mind the camera and and lighting and worry about things like Make up and what the talent is warning and the set and constantly monitor audio levels at the same time.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, or when recording extremely dynamic sound effects.

@turtlefeet7722 2 ай бұрын

Thanks man.

@curtisjudd 2 ай бұрын

👍

@MichaelJohnson-lc5fq 2 жыл бұрын

Curtis, thanks for all the great information over the years. A quick question: any quality issues when converting from 32 to 16 bit? I like the idea of having the dynamic range of 32 bit float, but my final recordings must be a standard 16 / 44.1

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

No issues, just the normal general principles apply - do your processing of the audio while still in 32-bit float if you can, then when you get it sounding how you'd like, then export to 16-bit.

@michaelmourek3879 2 жыл бұрын

The reverb on the Tascam is still #1

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Nice for musicians.

@michaelmourek3879 2 жыл бұрын

@@curtisjudd Very nice - plus 2 condenser microphones - set apart to create a stereo delay - very amazing

@edclevel402 2 жыл бұрын

The Zoom XYH-5 XY stero mic capsule module has a _bit_ of shock isolation between the mic capsules and the frame. Each mic capsule is suspended by a small rubber gasket that does a decent job of at least partially reducing handling noise.

@franklong6269 2 жыл бұрын

Are you referring to the Zoom H8?

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Good to know, thanks for sharing!

@BeauHannamGuitars 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting video. Thanks. Will you be doing a review (and comparison) of the Zoom F3??

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, definitely planning to review the F3 once I get my copy.

@auscameraman 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Curtis, Are you planning on doing a video on the new Zoom F8n Pro? Thanks for the the great information! I love your channel.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, definitely.

@QLFProductions Жыл бұрын

I was looking to upgrade from my H4N Pro and I love the user interface of the X8 but the preamps seem no better for double the money so it's looking like the F6.

@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын

👍

@GaryStockton 10 ай бұрын

Buying one. Decision point 13:04 the recovery abilities are amazing.

@curtisjudd 10 ай бұрын

👍

@GaryStockton 10 ай бұрын

@@curtisjudd are use the affiliate link on the video. Very excited to get this. It will be replacing an old Tascam DR60D MKII.

@curtisjudd 10 ай бұрын

@@GaryStockton 👍 Affiliate links are all up to date. Happy recording!

@andygarbi8645 Ай бұрын

Thank you for a great review! You mention other recorders you have tested with lower self noise than the X8. Can't stretch to Sound Devices prices right now but if you have any thoughts on low self noise portable field recorders that would be really appreciated. I am considering a Zoom F3 to replace my H4N.

@curtisjudd Ай бұрын

The ZOOM F3 would be a fantastic choice overall and definitely with lower self-noise.

@StraeterBenderStreberg 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this review, Curtis. I wonder, is 32 bit float available if you record a podcast with 3 or 4 people? I ask, because I read somewhere, that 32 bit float is not available in the Podcast settings.

@russjam 2 жыл бұрын

I've heard the same thing. I was wondering if recording in manual mode would be the solution for instead of the default "podcast" settings. Plus I suppose Curtis would say it shouldn't be a sweat since its just talking heads that would be recorded.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not positive as I didn't test this specific scenario. Probably best to contact TASCAM support to confirm.

@explrr22 Жыл бұрын

Podcast recording app disappoints on this: It's 24bit 48khz recording exclusively. Much worse... If you have recording settings at 32bit float, and open up the podcast app, it bumps the device setup into 24b/48k, affecting all subsequent recording. So you need to go back into the devices record settings and reset them after opening the podcast app. Exploring the device after getting it...I was puzzled about how things kept getting reset. A thorough read of the manual told me the podcast app was exclusively 24b/48k, and examination showed it was undoing previous settings across all recording.

@FG_FadeRunner 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing review first and foremost. However, a few concerns. 1) There are only a few DAW's or video editors that can process 32bit float audio. FCPX & PP can, but your files will be outlandishly large. Or you could get fold back aliasing when it gets downgraded from 32bit to 24. The second problem, is that many podcasting apps like "Ferrite" offer 32bit floating audio, and the app is only $30 for the paid version. You can use your iPhone or iPad and avoid this thing all together. Third. You can get near perfect audio with dbx 286s, & a cloud lifter for your mic. A bit more equipment, but the sound is perfect, plug that into the Ferrite app and you're golden. Fourth. Digital audio is on the rise. Sony just made a hot shoe mounted shotgun mic that only uses the digital signal input. This completely eliminates the noise from the cameras preamps. Once these kinds of mics get popular, 3.5mm & XLR mics will be obsolete. I don't see the utility of these kinds of devices in the modern era. I could be wrong, but audio recorders like this, that still use preamps and not digital audio seem a bit antiquated.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Important note: Digital microphones are hybrid devices with analogue capsules and digital converters. This does NOT eliminate self-noise. How much self-noise they generate depends on the quality of the analogue and digital circuitry.

@ianpreece6391 Жыл бұрын

great video thanks! I've just bought the X8 and have a shoot coming up where they plan to use Tentacle Sync and send me audio timecode to sync up later in post. How do I mute the timecode monitor channel so I don't have it coming through the headphones?

@franklong6269 2 жыл бұрын

Just a quick comment on the internal amplifiers for 32 bit recording. I am a singer/song writer and have written dozens of original songs. My songs have a large vocal range and can go up to "D" above middle "C," which is an operatic level. Right now I am recording my songs for copywriting. Using the suppled mics in 24 bit 48.1 Khtz mode, I just set up the record levels on the recorder to what I think will work. I have found that even if the levels go into the "red" , where it should clip, it doesn't clip. In fact, I have had a hard time getting the X8 to clip at all under normal use. Out of curiosity, I raised the gain too high and tried to get it to clip. It did clip in this situation. I also set the gain at normal levels and shouted into the mics up close and it just clipped a little in this case, which is pretty impressive. So I am saying, for singer songwriters, this recorder is exceptionally flexible and easy to use. I also purchased the Zoom H8 and it was NOT easy to use. In fact, the Zoom H8 was so buggy, that I returned it. The Zoom H8 was clumsy to use, hard to follow the Zoom work flow logic, and the record function would not turn on at times when I pushed the record button twice (which was VERY irritating). There were a lot of things I really didn't like about the H8 recorder. Probably if a person is recording 192 Khtz, 32 bit recordings a lot, they should be purchasing a higher end audio recorder anyway. If they use Tascam X8 for field recordings, I don't think they will be disappointed. I have not been able to HEAR any discernable noise added by the unit. I get that they are concerned about inaudible noise that is added, but I am not sure why. If humans can't hear it, then what is the point? I guess if you boost the recording in post production or something like that (I am not an audio expert by any means) then it might be an issue. If I was recording in 32 bit, 192 Khtz levels, my first concern would be the quality of the mics I was using, not the indiscernible noise below human hearing from the X8 unit. Though, again, I am not an expert, based on what experts have said, it appears that to record at these high levels you need some very expensive mics with high dynamic ranges. I agree with you that the Tascam X8 audio record quality is better than the Zoom H8. Both are very good, but the Tascam has better dynamic range and the included mics have better sensitivity. I had trouble getting the Zoom H8 included mics to pic up my guitar and vocals at the same time and I had to place the unit very close to me, which was irritating. The Tascam X8 allows me to set the unit back three or four feet and get great recordings.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Glad the x8 is working well for you, Frank! 🎙

@RogerinFinland 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Curtis! Great video as always. Do I understand correctly at 13:54 that the Zoom F3 does have better pre-amps than this Tascam? (and therefore will get more out of the 32bit float with decent microphones). This Portacapture has a lot more features, the nice screen, the included mics etc, but I think I'd do with the bare bones F3. It's also cheaper, and if it does sound better I think that would make the F3 a no-brainer for me.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Roger, no, I haven't tested the F3 yet, still waiting for my copy to arrive. However, if they use the same preamps as the F6, then yes, they'll surely have more dynamic range than the X8. I wouldn't say that they sound better, just to be precise.

@RogerinFinland 2 жыл бұрын

@@curtisjudd fair enough, and thanks for the answer!

@JimmeeWong 7 ай бұрын

Hi Curtis, your content is incredibly helpful, and I appreciate your detailed and thoughtful approach. I’m currently setting up for ASMR recordings and facing challenges. I use two NT1 5th gen mics with my MBP, but they’re picking up too much external noise. After watching your videos and reading your responses, I’m considering switching to a Zoom F3 with two Rode NT5 mics. What are your thoughts on this setup? Also, I’m realising that my old house, despite being on a quiet street, might not be ideal for these recordings. I’m following your editing tips and using RX, but any additional advice on improving my recording space or setup would be invaluable. Thank you so much!

@curtisjudd 7 ай бұрын

Sound blankets and placing the mic as close as reasonably possible are my two biggest tips.

@rogercerdanbuil5454 2 жыл бұрын

super useful review, would u recommend it based on sound quality preamps over the dr60 and the dr70 along to my deity smic 2s, just cause they're quite old recorders they seem to be more professional product idk

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Not really, the preamps are not going to make things sound substantially better unless you are in a lot of situations where your audio clips and distorts. Then it would be worthwhile.

@fernandagunsanchannel 2 жыл бұрын

As usual a very nice thoroughly explained video. But one question. if I'm recording multi track. or doing live streaming. can I send FX (like reverb) only to one specific channel? channel 1 mic, channel 2 guitar, channel 3 bass I only want to send it to the mic. is that possible?

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

I did not test this specifically, but I believe the answer is yes. In Manual mode, you can toggle reverb on in each channel menu. I would recommend you confirm with Tascam support to be certain.

@ErikPelyukhno 3 ай бұрын

I had a traumatic experience where I was filming an EDM festival for my first time, using the X8 to capture audio off the DJ mixer. Because I enabled pre-record for my first time, when I hit record and saw the border of the screen illuminate red and heard the inputs through my headphones I assumed it was good to go. When I went to listen back to the recording after filming all night long (New Years in Miami is wild), there was no audio captured. People need to know, this recorder must have the record button pressed twice to actually record.

@curtisjudd 3 ай бұрын

👍

@franklong6269 2 жыл бұрын

I purchased this recorder to replace the Zoom H8 because of the following reasons: 1. The Zoom H8 has a micro-USB connector which is irritating. The X8 has a USB-C connector which is MUCH more convenient. 2. The Tascam X8 has 32 bit float recording. 3. The X8's touchscreen is far superior to the H8's touchscreen - it's not even close. 4. The X8 is far more intuitive to use. 5. Recording music on the X8 with effects like reverb is easier and it is well laid out in the app. For amateurs like me, recording my original songs on the Tascam X8 is FAR easier than the Zoom H8. With the Zoom H8, often it would not start recording when I hit the record button twice, and it was hard to see on the touchscreen to monitor what was going on. On the X8, this has not been a problem. The entire record process for music using music app or recording without the app is streamlined and laid out far better with the Tascam X8. For people new to audio recording, this is extremely helpful. 6. The recording quality of the X8 appears to be at least equal to the H8. The Tascam X8 recordings of my original songs generally sound better than those I made on the Zoom H8. I am a skilled musician and songwriter and I CAN hear the difference. I am not sure why they sound better, but they do. Without effects, the difference is not world shaking, but with effects, it is night and day. The Tascam allows amateurs to easily add effects in the music app. 7. You can control every function of the X8 from an android phone remotely via the Bluetooth dongle. On the Zoom H8, you cannot control every function and their remote dongle only works with IOS (Apple) phones or tablets. The remote function on the H8 only lets you monitor the recordings and you cannot adjust the settings remotely. Every review of the Bluetooth remote control of the X8 has said it works very well with no delay. 8. I don't have a need to record in 192 kHz. Plus to do so would require expensive microphones. One professional reviewer mentioned that not many mics have the ability to record in that high sample rate range. I will take their word for it. Having said that, the 192 kHz feature is available on the X8, but the H8 does not have this feature at all. 9. The cost is fairly equal. The X8 is about a $100.00 more. Thanks for your thorough review - it was excellent. I have two questions. Do you think there is a hearable difference between the Zoom F6 or other higher level recorder (from any manufacturer) and the Tascam X8 for music and song recording, when recorded at 44 kHz, 48 kHz and 96 kHz? If there would be a difference that is audible, what prosumer audio recorder would you recommend in the price range up to $2,000.00? Thanks, Frank Long

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing, Frank. I haven't found sample rates to make a big difference unless you are doing sound design work and plan to slow the sound down for sound effects. However, the 32-bit float can make a practical difference if you happen to set your gain incorrectly. So the difference between the Zoom F6 and the X8 is largely going to be dynamic range in 32-bit float mode. If you're recording REALLY loud music and you have a high quality microphone which can handle high SPLs (e.g., >130dB SPL) then the 32-bit float on the F6 is going to be a safer bet. But if you set your gain appropriately, you can make fine recordings with the X8.

@franklong6269 2 жыл бұрын

@@curtisjudd Thanks, your advice is very helpful. I feel a little bit like I am in a dark room and I am trying to "feel" my way through to the light when it comes to sound recording. There is a big learning curve to understanding both audio and video recording.

@drmajedmalak Жыл бұрын

Hi Curtis...thanks for your unbiased videos. You channel is real gold. If I may ask you. Does the 32bit float allow more agreesive post processing? I am wondering if I could think about it like recording 12 bit raw video which handle way more editing that other compressed format?? Thanks

@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын

Potentially, yes. You end up with potentially more dynamic range.

@drmajedmalak Жыл бұрын

@@curtisjudd thanks 😊

@steverolfeca 4 ай бұрын

For sound designers, the X8's ultrasonic noise spikes in 192K mode are definitely significant! Take a recording, drop it a few octaves, and that noise will become a high-pitched audible tone. Whether you could work around that without spoiling the sample would depend on the application.

@curtisjudd 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. 👍

@DanielSRosehill 2 жыл бұрын

Was that Irish music at the start Curtis? Great video as always!

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Out on the Ocean.

@1ytcommenter 2 жыл бұрын

Nice Video! Does Tascam plan to add more of the apps on the recorder? Or are the preinstalled the final ones? Any plans to try the AK-BT1 bluetooth remote control dongle too?

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know what Tascam plans to add. I am only borrowing this unit so I have not plans to add the bluetooth module.

@chris.d.Guitar 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for the review. One question , do you think is it possible to use it as a DAW to record different tracks ?(hearing the already recorded track and record another track)

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

In theory, yes, but I didn't test that functionality.

@FinalGrade 8 ай бұрын

Hey Curtis thank you for the video! Question about the 32bit float audio on this device. When you say it lacks range do you mean only when using the built in mics? Like if I used the XLR ports with other mics would it function more similar to something like an f3 or f6?

@curtisjudd 8 ай бұрын

Yes, that was referring to the built-in mics

@ronflores7 2 жыл бұрын

Would love to see a comparison against the zoom fx3 when avail.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

I'll definitely review the F3 once I receive my copy. We'll talk about how it compares to various other 32-bit float capable recorders.

@toneranger Жыл бұрын

Thank you Curtis, great review, for multitrack, can you record a guitar in the XLR and simultaneously record using the condenser mics ? Say for recording an acoustic duo with some aditional control over the guitars in post. Thanks

@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын

Yes

@toneranger Жыл бұрын

@@curtisjudd Many thanks 👍🏻

@vinyljunkie07 2 жыл бұрын

Great review! To me it seems a little gimmicky. I find it kinda weird they discontinued the DR-100 mkIII (probs due to the chip shortage and the AKM factory burning down) and had nothing to replace it with with regards to a dedicated high quality 2 track recorder.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@ElEscolta Жыл бұрын

Man, i was thinking of getting one to finally update my DR-44, but the battery and more podcast oriented arent what i need for field and film recording... guess ill just need to save up for that zoom h8 even tho it looks bulky, but the screen i feel is much nicer

@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын

👍

@jamesgrieve3212 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for a comprehensive review Curtis. Not exactly related to the content, but will you please share the identity of the mounting plate you used, seen at about 15:13 in the video? Looks like a nice, large, accessible 1/4-20 thumb wheel within a frame that might also include additional attachment points for a battery tray or other useful accessories. Thanks again, - James Audial Delta LLC Manassas, VA

@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын

Hi James, yes, that's the Sound Devices Pix-base stand and I put a link for it in the description.

@garethswindail-parry 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for such a great review! Would you say this is generally better than the zoom H series (particularly the H8) or is zoom still ahead? I have a H8 and sound wise it’s great for the recordings I do for theatre, but the UI is such a faff and I never quite know how to hold it comfortably. Not sure whether it upgrade at some point…

@PHlophe 2 жыл бұрын

i think its because we are all used to android smartphone interfaces. its a whole mental work to get used to analog interfaces and buttons. i got my dad's canon 7d , OMG i need the patience of a saint to navigate thru it.

@curtisjudd 2 жыл бұрын

If you're using the in-built microphones, I haven't compared the two head to head on that particular feature since I don't do a lot of recording with built-in microphones like that. I did generally like the Tascam UI, but I'm not sure I'd drop $500 just for that.

@garethswindail-parry 2 жыл бұрын

@@curtisjuddI think I might stick with my H8 then! It does me well for what I need. Thank you!

@jeffreychan9821 Жыл бұрын

thank you for this video.. I've got a h4n and a babyface pro.. i'm thinking of trading it all in for this or the F6.. what would you recommend ? Seems like the F6 is a better device ( I have xlr mics ), but having built in mics seems to add a lot of portability...

@curtisjudd Жыл бұрын

Personally, I'd opt for the F6. But if you need built-in mics, the X8 is a decent option.