Right just shows how much of a fraud they really are. They claim 220whp with cams. I guess the cat is out pf the bag huh lol

@@trillabp3971 Well you are wrong they only claim that with the flash tune not a Power Commander piggyback fuel controller. There is a big difference between adjusting fuel only and doing fuel / timing / throttle body tuning and removing other restrictions built into the factory ECU. Also running E85 without adding timing is pointless that is what E85 is good for allowing the engine to add timing increasing power without the risk of engine knock.

Kevin Feliciano It was only you

This bike was expected to make 190-192hp, so yeah! It’s just you.

Sorryimtruthful My prediction was 197 whp on e85, but a safe 192 is great, and it has some excellent torque. This is why I was saying for a while that they should go the e85 route.

I was expecting 200+ hp

Random Dude sorry for your lack of knowledge but Brock’s performance it’s pushing 200hp in bmws1000rr without cams so you should look at this videos

They didnt yet unlock ECU for 2017 and 2018 S1000RR, so it isnt flashed. It just got PCV to adjust fuel mapping but there is still restrictions in ECU like throttle closing at higher rpms and similiar things. On Brocks channel there is a video about new GSXR1000 and it shows how throttle blades are closing on higher rpms even with throttle pinned. Brock was able to get about 15hp just by removing that restriction on GSXR and prevent throttle blades from closing on higher rpms. In my opinion this bike, with all upgrades 650ib did, is cappable of 200whp, and it should make that once the ECU get flashed

Racer X not true .. lol i flash and tune these bikes and they do not make 196whp with just exhaust and flash .

THE SLAYER-BMW THE SLAYER-Z06 ya well theres 3 hours of you tube videos from brocks performance that says otherwise. Although to be fair there was a power commander as well. 2017 gsxr 1000 got up to 204 on mr12 at the rear wheel. I get it different bike different dyno maybe ducatis dyno is conservative and brocks is generous. If this ecu isnt flashed then I would definitely say major performance was left on the table maybe 15 hp.

Racer X you can't compare power numbers if it ain't from the same dyno.

Racer X don't fall victim to marketing...Brock's dyno reads high...which sells products. Don't believe me, think back to the 06-07 era where the zx10r was "making" 170+HP on the magazine dyno...all marketing hype...today's bikes barely hit 170whp on an honest dyno...I'll reserve judgement for the new gixxer until I race one or see one on a dyno that isn't financially beneficial to the person dynoing it. Smoke and mirrors!

Alex Hall I kept telling Ib that he needed hp unlock and rck3. He ignored it.

I was thinking the same thing all those mods and 192hp nah you gotta flash it that’s mandatory. With race cams that bike should be 200+hp

No one has been able to crack the 2018 ECU yet

yes that is true. just stating that once it is, the potential of the modifications will be seen.

Kenneth Waters hilltop racing has. Besides there is HP unlock and rck3 from BMW and alpha racing available. Literally desrestricting the Ecu

MrJayjay0420 hp calibration or rapid bike racing would of got good numbers. power commander isn’t made for the 17-18 rr Hp with some Webber or alpha cams 215-220 hp

5UP that awesome, I have the handheld also, pretty easy to work with . It’s nice not to have to mail your ecu off anymore.. btw love you content!

5UP honestly Steve you and IB are the reason I went with Brentuning seems like they have their stuff together.. The 17 Tuono has way to many things that can go wrong to just let anyone make a map for it .

unfortunately 2018's ECU hasnt been cracked yet for the flash. once that is done i bet with all those mods it will reach 198-200whp+

ashish kumar yes the 17-18 s1k ecu has been cracked. Lol Hilltop motorcycles has a flash. Besides BMW has a flash and calibration kit in their hp unlock and rck3.

Sean Mcgrath he didn't want to HP unlock the bike. Pointless to install cams with throttle and factory restrictioms

Smoke 1 i can't say I disagree with that. Its a great idea. If John Varvatos got an edition of the Chrysler 300S why not a 650ib Edition S1000RR?

I agree, there should at least be a special emblem badge put on the bikes, to acknowledge the bike build and the work 650ib puts into making this all happen.

Definitely agree...the Ib Edition.

i think bren tuning is just shit tuning. i know a guy with the same setup and at bren tuning it made 234 lol high af dyno. and e85 typically gets 8-9whp alone. dude got 2whp from e85 lol what a joke.

Hmmm, brentuning got 236hp on THEIR dyno with e85 module and e85 fuel. I thought that was a lot of hp for electronics and e85. Well which is accurate??

This shows how Speciale(hehe), the Panigale V4 is out of the Crate. IJS

Richie Rich I tend to agree now that Ducati has made a speciale bike with this V4 to be 216BHP bone stock ..cause I thought the S1000RR will be close to it's power.

Bretuning got 236 out of 1000rr. I was thinking of doing the e85 module and cam from them when they claimed 236hp, but now I see 46hp LESS, whats up with that!!! Different dyno, pushed numbers, what??

Randy Lafleur you really think any of these bikes will make 236whp with a cam only? Lol boy do you have a lot to learn. Keep believing what bren says 😂

The Guardian lol. That’s definitely not the case here

Plutopusher if you’ve had any machine with cam work. It’s not just go for full hp. You’ll blow anything and everything like that. Especially a motorcycle...........

@@Plutopusher yes it is lol e85 needs much more fuel to make power. tuning 13.1 on e85 is retarded and will net very small gains. most tunes for e85 you go for a 8-9 not 13......

@@Plutopusher also look at that a/f line after tune its wavy as hell. my tuner would be embarrassed if he couldn't get it spot on.

Joselyn Espinosa only available if you physically bring your bike to them

To buy cams like Webber or alpha racing and get them fitted and engine work thAts about 4500 uk pounds. If my bike pulled 190 hp after that I be pissed lol. They are using a power commander what ain’t even made for the 17-18rr. A new rr with a rapid bike racing module Or a hp calibration rck3 Full race Exhaust AirFilter Custom Map 200 hp With cams should be 220

I agree something is not right with the setup. Did they even get the ECU unlocked? I know for a while no one had a way to unlock them.

I thought those numbers where way low as well with all that's done to the bike. It seems like the cams really didn't do much at all. However, whoever gets the bike won't have any complaints. It's still a cool build.

Jared K just buy an 17 18 model , the hp4 is not worth the money at this point and time . The 17 18 will be much faster once boltons and tuned . SLR-TUNING check my channel 786-480-4412

Yes.

Uh Oh! I smell a smackdown! ib, love ya buddy, but I think the 1299 will get this S1000RR. I was expecting more power out of it.

you believe everything you see online? especially from someone dyno-ing their own product?!....that graph is in STD...and who knows what the correction factor is, because the run conditions aren't shown....so, the s1000 definitely isn't making 220hp with stage 2,3,4,100 flash, cams, or special gas...LOL...not on an accurate dyno anyways. MR12 is oxygenated and adds HP, STD shows more HP than the industry standard SAE that should have been used, and who knows where the dyno stack is located and if it's even calibrated correctly....don't fall for the hype...185whp on a good day for this bike without the dyno trickery, don't believe me, tell them to take it to the track and watch the trap speeds ;-)

@@sc63sr20det could be true what you say. But why would they lie in a video? Ive seen gsxr1k making 192-196 personally. Even Brock shows in his 1k 202whp... so im sure this bike on e85 cams full systen ecu flash pcv sprint filter etc its got to be 210+

@@Migycrz well, big numbers sells parts/services in this game. If you notice, people like me started calling bs on all of the inflated numbers, so now you hear these "tuners" throw around the phrase "all dynos read different" or "a dyno is just a tuning tool"... that's their way of keeping their high numbers. Fact is, if the drum is properly calibrated and the stack module isn't placed in places conducive to high dyno numbers, dynojets will read pretty close numbers wherever they are when SAE settings are used. I've dyno'd my bike at a reputable shop in California, then again in South Carolina at another reputable shop...numbers were within a few HP of each other. It's all about the setup, be it due to tuners not taking the time to setup properly, or purposely manipulating the setup to show big numbers...everyone you just mentioned dyno just so happens to read "high"...coincidence or tool to "sell HP"? Trust me, I've been in this game for a while, it's funny when someone shows up to the drag strip bragging about how much extra HP they gained from running this exhaust and having this person tune their bike, then get drug down the track by another same make bike with same weight rider, running "inferior" parts/tune AND making 20whp less on someone else's dyno...e.t. is irrelevant, but the MPH at the end of the 1/4 mile isn't 😉...can't fudge physics 😁

@@sc63sr20det i agree. I guess is convinient for them to sell service and parts. But how can you know when you are in a legit dyno that has not been messed with to just give high numbers? I figure if im a tuner im going to want my customer to see good reliable numbers from my tune.. that also will bring more customers better for business. So i guess is kinda hard to really tell.

@@Migycrz it is hard to tell, but not using SAE numbers is a dead giveaway for starters...if you're using the same dyno to tune on, the numbers are irrelevant, what you pay attention to is the gains/losses compared to your baseline....if you take your bike somewhere for performance work, and they hand you a dyno printout showing 200hp, but no baseline from when the bike came in, you have no clue if you gained or lost anything. It's hard, because there are so many tricks they can use to manipulate the numbers....I would just say find a shop and tell them you're not interested in high numbers, just SAE numbers for tuning.

alonzo white lol!

The baseline for this euro 4 2018 s1000rr was 182 hp on the same dyno. It literally gained only 10 hp with the thousands of dollars in performance parts and e85. It doesn't matter if it was on Brock's dyno, it would have shown a 10 hp gain...

MrJayjay0420 I agree, it wasn't going to gain any more than it did no matter the dyno...I haven't been faithfully following the build, so I thought the bike has typical bolt-ons with a set of cams. A 10HP gain sounds about right on a bike that's maximized from the factory. I don't understand why it would gain HP on e85 if the timing and compression are still same as on pump gas...anyone care to elaborate?

All that no 200 limit???

at_Ease1775 It was 182 stock. 186 with the cams. 192 on e85.. but I think the 182 and 186 numbers were on a different dyno.. might have to check the other videos

@@FernandoLopez-yo3uv race cams and e85 is a waste of money for the gains...