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@Pugjamin 5 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t the flange at the top be to hold it with? Flip it so the flange is facing out?
@TheRCBiker 5 ай бұрын
6:43 surely the template is made to be positioned with the other side against the wall, and that lip is something to hold on to (and sit a level on)?
@stuartandrews4344 5 ай бұрын
Wouldn't bother with 25mm boxes nowadays, 35mm would be the minimum depth I used for most sockets/switches, gives you wiggle room for cables,etc.
@Hammy135 5 ай бұрын
Don’t they aim for 35mm when they dot and dab, which with a 25mm back box achieves the same results, no need for chasing
@acelectricalsecurity 4 ай бұрын
25mm, 12.5mm board with 12.5mm dab then 3mm skim
@thomasramsay5676 5 ай бұрын
Not a criticism here. Just a genuine question. Since when has it been accepted nailing boxes to brick? I was always told roundheaded screws only as it's bad practice to use nails. I do see the use of Spit nails in boxes more and more but they are a pain in the arse to get off a wall when flushed - a job that is a pain in the arse without the use of nails. Increased likelihood of damaging the wall fabric trying to wrestle then out.
@coralbay00 5 ай бұрын
Agreed. I always stick with old school screw fixing. Plus I'm surprised nick surface clipped the cables rather than using oval initially as I assume walls being dabbed Ain't knocking him he's sound af 😊
@acelectricalsecurity 4 ай бұрын
Yeah , when I was an apprentice I was told, you could always tell the rough ones, they would not use grommets and nail boxes on. I can tell you it's a nightmare when you go to a job and the box needs replacing and it's nailed on.
@matts490 5 ай бұрын
Flip that template around, I think that bent edge is a little grabby handle
@davidmason5163 4 ай бұрын
Also a point to put level on if needed
@mrgfromoxford8644 5 ай бұрын
I’ve made several comments on here over the years how come your still using 25mm boxes , it’s madness with so many flat plate accessories out there now , and also USB , sockets you need the depth. Anyway still love watching your vids , keep them coming .
@TheChipmunk2008 5 ай бұрын
maybe he has a unit full of 25mm boxes :)
@paulthompson5416 5 ай бұрын
Wasn’t really any need for a hammer to remove that backbox!! All you had to do was sneeze beside it and it would have fallen off 😂
@Hammy135 5 ай бұрын
Just proved that they’re crap fixings really
@andyharpist2938 4 ай бұрын
indeed...way to ruin a box using a hammer
@Longeno55 5 ай бұрын
"Happy Christmas and Merry New Year" Nick and the same to your family and even Adam, Lol
@gavjlewis 5 ай бұрын
Maybe you should ask Santa for a pair of nail pullers to put in your tool bag! 😂
@dazzafat 5 ай бұрын
Why have they decided on the oval conduit now ? Someone's been talking in there ear hole I reckon
@jonathanrose456 5 ай бұрын
Part M covers disabled heights. Rewires still come under Part M. A customer can request for you not to follow Part M (get it in writing). Whilst you’ll be allowed to do it on rewires, planning permission for new builds will make it a requirement to follow Part M regs.
@acelectricalsecurity 4 ай бұрын
It used to say part m was a requirement for major refurbishment and never mentioned rewires. What's the point of having switches and sockets to part m, when your door ways don't comply, no ramped access to the property etc etc
@lewismales 5 ай бұрын
Cut 5 Holes in all round band. Put 1 fixing in the middle, Then use the 2 holes either side to wrap around and pull your conduit in.Leaves a neat finish. I cannot remember where I learnt it but glad I did.
@TheChipmunk2008 5 ай бұрын
CJR electrical is where i learned that from. It does indeed work very well. Also use that in trunking for premature collapse prevention. Assessor said that was fine as it's at least as good as the d-line fire clips
@danielgallagher429 4 ай бұрын
I'm only here as an DIYer, but one thing that peevs me about my house is the back boxes nailed in, give it a couple of years of pulling plugs in and out and they start to come loose, this is obviously standard practice but seems short sighted? Fine for the sparks at the time, but the costomer might suffer long term?
@jonathanrose456 5 ай бұрын
Still can’t believe you went to Armeg & came away without a box cutter lol
@supersparks9466 5 ай бұрын
I understand the 35mm back box thing, that’s the minimum size I use, but the client will get no benefit from the oval conduit being installed. And there’s only a very slim chance that a future homeowner will benefit either.
@jonesconrad1 5 ай бұрын
presumably they are going to float and set the block walls
@supersparks9466 5 ай бұрын
@@jonesconrad1 capping would suffice in that scenario
@TheChipmunk2008 5 ай бұрын
We always used to use 20 or 25 round conduit with adaptors into the box etc. People don't wanna pay for that anymore, but they WOULD get benefit from that on a rewire
@kevanswift7797 5 ай бұрын
Oval conduit every time looks better than cables clipped to surface. If a cable is damaged much easier to pull cable up and repair correctly. Cost of oval conduit is nothing compared to overall price.
@supersparks9466 5 ай бұрын
@@kevanswift7797 Its not the cost of the conduit in most cases as it would stick out too far so you have to chase it in and the price would rise a lot for the extra labour
@EdwardBretherton 5 ай бұрын
oval conduit , you would be better just capping the chase , but the word engineer always rings alarm bells in every trade lol
@davidryan6616 5 ай бұрын
Many Thanks for a Great Year of content 🙂🇮🇪☘️
@JensenPGATourDriven 5 ай бұрын
🎄Happy Holidays Nick & Adam ⚡️👊
@andysims4906 5 ай бұрын
Oval conduit . Very professional
@ed-channel3986 5 ай бұрын
I like this conduits, manufacturers should creat at least 1 knockout of same shape in the metal back boxs. would say better to chase the wall of 5mm for 25mm boxs or 15mm for the 35mm boxs would give you best results
@shaun30-3-mg9zs 5 ай бұрын
Happy Christmas Nick
@barnabybot 5 ай бұрын
If he didnt specify what he wantee and then you do the work and then he magically realises what he wants....yeah, time to specify that youll do it again this one time. But he either gives youna specific installtion guide or you will charge for re-doing.
@cliveramsbotty6077 5 ай бұрын
'i'm still getting paid regardless, my day rate for this...'
@acelectricalsecurity 4 ай бұрын
On the short drops up from the floor it's easier to put the box on the conduit first then fix the box to the wall, that way you won't kink the tube.
@ForTheBirbs 5 ай бұрын
Good stuff Nick.
@adamscarsbrook5949 5 ай бұрын
Could you get bosch send you there concrete nail gun and see what you think of it it doesn't need the gas i was thinking of buying one but not much reviews out there on it?
@amc8313 5 ай бұрын
Should have finalized the spec before just slamming it in the easiest way for yourself ..... excellent click bait title anyway..... should have been I made a mistake so the customer called me out on it
@davekauffman8727 5 ай бұрын
Customer should have been more specific about what he wanted, I'm glad you're not backing off what you asked for pay. I don't know anything about UK wiring, but in America, there is an electrical code that can condemn a building if the wiring is not done properly.
@TheChipmunk2008 5 ай бұрын
If the wiring doesn't comply to the wiring regs and is unsafe the electricity supplier can refuse connection, and unless agreed otherwise, even just deviating from the regs can mean you have to redo it.
@tunnel7 5 ай бұрын
Nail it NAILS what are you doing screw it is the only way Nails indeed WOW Nick come on m8.
@mickbowler9111 5 ай бұрын
You can buy 11mm x 22mm clips for oval conduit 😊
@HeathenGeek 5 ай бұрын
Just found out. . . you can get adapters that go from oval conduit to round. Summat to try out on a job?
@TheChipmunk2008 5 ай бұрын
I find the actual circumference is the same, so the 25mm if warmed up a little and squeezed will fit snugly into a 25mm round knockout. But i will have a look at the adaptors too, might be neater... ta
@anthonybragg 5 ай бұрын
I would rap those cables into the box as I can see the border/plasterer cutting those off.
@TheChipmunk2008 5 ай бұрын
that's when you cut off their plasterboard/plaster to replace the cable (we always tell customers to hold back part of the plasterers payment till 2nd fix time, because of that happening)
@1mannik 5 ай бұрын
They must not know your the Flexi conduit guy not the Oval conduit guy !!😂👍
@marksimpson3035 5 ай бұрын
1200mm bottom height for switch 450mm bottom height for sockets 150mm bottom height off worktop This ergonomic height accommodates all walks of life big , small ,short tall or in chair Jobsworth 😅
@EdwardBretherton 5 ай бұрын
trying to not be a smart ass but if you read the regs it is 1200mm too top of switch, 450mm too bottom of socket and we always run sockets over work tops same as light switches
@jeremykemp3782 5 ай бұрын
@@EdwardBretherton Trying not to be a smart arse here, but, BS7671 does not have anything on switch or socket heights. However other things may apply depending on where the installation is, such as Part M of the building regulations. One common situation being that new build homes have sockets and switches between 450mm and 1200mm from finished floor level.
@TheChipmunk2008 5 ай бұрын
@@EdwardBretherton The NICEIC pocket guide shows it to the centres of the accessories... it seems there'sa lot of confusion. With worktop accessories we try to liase with the kitchen guys and get them centred between worktop and the wall units... emphasis on TRY lol
@EdwardBretherton 5 ай бұрын
That is the point i was trying to make , keep too part M and anything different get the client to sign a disclaimer. these days you have to cover yourself @@jeremykemp3782
@Riley_Jarvis_the_sparky 5 ай бұрын
Danm, nick.... what you done now 🤣
@CAR_SOLUTIONS 5 ай бұрын
How come the oval conduit had to be sunk into the wall? Does it have to be sunk into the wall was this just customer preference or is there a valid reason behind it
@rich1483 5 ай бұрын
Box recessed means conduit has to as well to line up with hole.
@CAR_SOLUTIONS 5 ай бұрын
@@rich1483 is it customer preference or does it have to be recessed into wall just asking if it was a extension fresh walls
@rich1483 5 ай бұрын
If 25mm box used then no chasing as plasterboard and adhesive is 25mm. But the customer wanted 35mm boxes so had to chase them in and the conduit to line up with box hole had to as well, which is not that common or wanted by the electrician as extra work. @@CAR_SOLUTIONS
@francishutchinson1483 5 ай бұрын
Just about to pull the trigger on the mfe40, Which vacuum do you have with it and does the vacuum vibrate every so ofter to clear the filter, Thanks for the great content 🙌👍
@Romeworld95 5 ай бұрын
I’ve had one for a couple years. Can’t fault it if you do a lot of rewires. No good for new build. I think there’s only one hoover they do and it provides the vibrate function automatically. Get it
@francishutchinson1483 5 ай бұрын
@@Romeworld95 is it hard to get used to pushing it up the wall if you know what I mean 😅 the only chasers I've used are pulling down the wall
@Romeworld95 5 ай бұрын
@@francishutchinson1483 yeah I understand 😅 but I compare it to the hours of angle grinding then chasing and the amount of dust and tools required and think "it's a lot less hassle still"
@petegriffiths5896 4 ай бұрын
The back box came of the wall very easy, nasty way to install back box with nails.
@LondonStuff. 5 ай бұрын
Are those concrete blocks and why would you use them out of interest?
@sygad1 5 ай бұрын
why not use round conduit and female connectors to the back box?
@simonbeal2148 5 ай бұрын
The plasterboard would never be flush with the metal box with 20mm conduit and adapter presuming it's being dry lined
@ADF-js9vi 4 ай бұрын
It's about time, IMO, that knockouts in back boxes were oval to match the conduit. 🤨
@jayjolley9258 Ай бұрын
So how come we are back to nailing boxes ? It's a no from me that ?
@raymondburke1261 5 ай бұрын
This might not be the last time they will get you to redo your work,😉 as soon as you said “ engineer “ alarm bells are ringing..good luck..🤞🏻
@kevanswift7797 5 ай бұрын
Just because he’s an engineer and knows things is no excuse to do incorrect installations. I can understand why people but cables clipped to surface. Oval conduit looks much better. See how easy the metal socket box came off the wall. Screw it man
@andyharpist2938 4 ай бұрын
Perhaps you didnt inform the previous electrician exactly what the work required, clearly enough?
@jonesconrad1 5 ай бұрын
thought you were being silly about the blades , er its diamond etc probably be okay with the nail, then you mentioned the price... And yep fair enough,
@gadgetman36 5 ай бұрын
Have you noticed that Adam has copied "Job's A Good 'un" from you? He literally says it multiple times in each of his videos! It's so funny! 😂
@griswald7156 5 ай бұрын
Andrew Ditton hello….lovely.
@DofTF 2 ай бұрын
I wouldn't ask what the fold on top of tin-work was for if I were you the Engineer will be thinking he's picked the wrong Sparks for his job (oh dear that's me reported to KZfaq again for abuse apparently!)
@jamieblatantsparky 5 ай бұрын
Oval conduit , one of life’s timewasters
@romansearle7710 5 ай бұрын
I hate re doing my work can’t watch someone else do it aswell😂
@hardave17 5 ай бұрын
The lip on that template might be to house a level ... Just a guess
@danielfisher-gh8el 5 ай бұрын
Hate metal capping, a plastic capping is too brittle, just wish large conduit was cheaper
@trevorduggan8524 5 ай бұрын
Your should be arrested for crimes against electricians …
@julianpeach3023 4 ай бұрын
Y do you nail your boxes to the walk!??
@darrencollin1501 5 ай бұрын
If you listen back ti says your don’t mind re doing work then with in 30 seconds you said you hate re doing work 😂😂😂😂
@Ste2023 5 ай бұрын
is oval the new black
@tonywatson1412 5 ай бұрын
I know what you mean.... looks awful...BUT....the metal channel...etc....i assume its going to be covered. ? AND. it's not there coz how it looks....( don't get it)
@XENONEOMORPH1979 5 ай бұрын
cat 6 is better , why was no details given to you before putting sockets on.
@williamcantlin7052 5 ай бұрын
Cat's paw for pulling nails ...
@pinmast0r 5 ай бұрын
OSB Board. Argh. My teeth are itchy. Please stop :)
@raymurphy9749 5 ай бұрын
Hate sparks who nail in boxes ,do a proper job and use screws like you were taught to do
@dimitar4y 5 ай бұрын
customer again, bah.
@thereal1006 5 ай бұрын
Them fixings are $hite
@darrencollin1501 5 ай бұрын
I’d lose you and find you again mr
@Davidhughes9467 4 ай бұрын
Raf
@Displays.1234. 4 ай бұрын
Why are wall sockets ridiculously to high these days, it always looks like an absolute mess.., who the hell would want to look at high wall sockets...
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