"CUT PLAYERS SALARIES!" 😠 Simon Jordan BLAMES players for taking ALL THE MONEY from football 🔥

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11 ай бұрын

Is watching football too expensive? talkSPORT's Jim White, Simon Jordan and Carlton Palmer have their say!
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@pac8827
@pac8827 11 ай бұрын
How dare people not pay Sky Sports and BT a fortune to not watch 3pm kicks offs
@hustler666100
@hustler666100 11 ай бұрын
i wouldn't mind paying them if I could watch what games i wanted to live but until then ill stream my home team games.
@RESPECTpine_ppleONpizza
@RESPECTpine_ppleONpizza 11 ай бұрын
Rip off sky, plenty of other options.
@user-dw2px9re9p
@user-dw2px9re9p 11 ай бұрын
They would rather charge £100 a month and have 1 million subscribers rather than £10 a month and have 10 million subscribers.
@johnnyutah706
@johnnyutah706 11 ай бұрын
No one is saying that in this conversation
@wolfen210959
@wolfen210959 11 ай бұрын
@@bobbyblueace You only need to stream illegally, if your team is in the Premier League. In the leagues below, your club can stream each of it's games online to it's fans for a small fee, unless the game is featured on Sky or BT.
@klich44
@klich44 11 ай бұрын
Huge point missing here is that regardless of price point most fans can't legally watch their own team in UK each week
@MacAnPhriora
@MacAnPhriora 11 ай бұрын
This
@PhilipGaffney
@PhilipGaffney 11 ай бұрын
Exactly, there would probably be an argument it's worth the price if you had access to chose any and every game.
@face8451
@face8451 11 ай бұрын
In sweden we have viaplay we can choose to watch every game we want, does it work that way in england
@syn_tekken3055
@syn_tekken3055 11 ай бұрын
⁠@@face8451 No, under british law, no match that kicks off at 3PM on Saturday (the majority of fixtures) may be broadcast in the UK. Plenty of ways around it of course thanks to VPNs.
@SpookyBry
@SpookyBry 11 ай бұрын
@@syn_tekken3055 I've been watching the Prem from the US since I was kid and never knew this. Can you enlighten me as to why that's a law? My mind is kind of blown right now.
@peterwest4965
@peterwest4965 11 ай бұрын
£160 a month and you can't even watch a 3pm kick off Saturday and they wonder why certain people want to pay £120 a year and watch any game they wish.
@leemcqueen500
@leemcqueen500 10 ай бұрын
What subscription is 160 a month? That must be with broadband and the full package and multiroom.
@BabsW
@BabsW 11 ай бұрын
We need the Premier League to have their own streaming service- that way they can stream all the matches in the UK at a reasonable price and make way more money. It's a no brainer.
@MA-qf5gq
@MA-qf5gq 11 ай бұрын
Makes sense because ufc do that nba do that however it will never happen because premier league get paid sooo much money from streamers like sky, by etc for the right to air the games on there steaming service. Premier league only care about money not fans
@nemo.87
@nemo.87 11 ай бұрын
The parasites at the top wont allow that.
@davidcjupp
@davidcjupp 10 ай бұрын
Realistically the Prem have milked the UK audience too much and now people are stealing it because it's too expensive. It's why NOWTV will do £20p/m for the footy now.
@GIrls-jr4jn
@GIrls-jr4jn 11 ай бұрын
Disgusting that they’ve been jailed for such an amount of time. Those that hurt children in the worst possible way are given shorter sentences and then paid to have a life by the government (your taxes cover their council house, tax, driving lessons, gym memberships, discounted gas and electricity bills, help with education costs if needed). Absolute joke.
@peterwest4965
@peterwest4965 11 ай бұрын
100% spot on I seen a mother who let her boyfriend murder her child and tried to cover it up and she got 9 years shows what they really value money over everything.
@RS-B5ZV
@RS-B5ZV 11 ай бұрын
One was convicted of serious charges related to the images of minors, they did not get enough jail time in my opinion
@alicerichardson2541
@alicerichardson2541 10 ай бұрын
like have u just noticed the law is for companies not the public rob a bank life 25+ years rob a person with assult 5 years tops out in 2
@dansymmons2250
@dansymmons2250 Ай бұрын
We live in a society where protecting corporate business is more important than protecting children. You pay tax but billionaires don't. This is the system people have voted for and now they've got it. Money over everything.
@Ryan-mw8zr
@Ryan-mw8zr 11 ай бұрын
It'd be great if Jim White could go 10 seconds without interrupting someone
@karatsurba4791
@karatsurba4791 11 ай бұрын
It's his job
@xNSHD
@xNSHD 11 ай бұрын
@@karatsurba4791 to interrupt? is that in his job description is it?
@karatsurba4791
@karatsurba4791 11 ай бұрын
@@xNSHD to take the conversation where he needs to.
@mjw8218
@mjw8218 11 ай бұрын
Interuppting with shite too. Thing is, he gets it, but just plays devil's advocate for the purpose of the convo.
@kvnthms
@kvnthms 11 ай бұрын
​@@mjw8218 Yeah, I get the feeling he doesn't even care about this issue. But acts as if its such a travesty to him for the sake of the show. He isn't even thinking about what Simon says and making a meaningful discussion. It's all just delfecting
@thompson223
@thompson223 11 ай бұрын
Simon Jordan cuts through bullshit like no voice in football out there. An absolute gem that man is
@MW92.
@MW92. 11 ай бұрын
Welcome to the jordanites thompson. Simon = top LAD proper clobber
@garypipe1770
@garypipe1770 11 ай бұрын
Simon Jordan is completely right. You have to go back to the scource of the issue before you can then solve it.
@nicmonberg5974
@nicmonberg5974 11 ай бұрын
@@garypipe1770 no hes not why can they allow other countries to sell every prem game for not even £10 per month yet in uk you get what 160 games and are paying close to £100 per month. SJ has no clue on the subject what you expect from a failed football owner
@sunnydevilliers6767
@sunnydevilliers6767 11 ай бұрын
I agree even he,said the cancellation culture will come for him once he says something one day until them he will let rip. He told Sourness that
@sunnydevilliers6767
@sunnydevilliers6767 11 ай бұрын
With how football has been tgis season I wouldn't have paid £5 a week..
@1574john
@1574john 11 ай бұрын
If only we spent as much time preventing actual crime 🙄
@SK-kh2rs
@SK-kh2rs 11 ай бұрын
Here we go. Let's pretend UK is Baghdad 😂
@frankdux5693
@frankdux5693 11 ай бұрын
​@@SK-kh2rs in the UK you can literally steal a car while high on heroin and alcohol, crash into people waiting at a bus stop killing them and walk free from court. Then continue to commit crimes like burglary, knife and drug crimes, assault etc and over the course of the next 20 years have 100+ convictions and serve next to zero jail time. Then some guy getting over 10 years for helping people to see some football.
@Stinkmeaner420
@Stinkmeaner420 11 ай бұрын
@@frankdux5693 wtf are you on about??
@frankdux5693
@frankdux5693 11 ай бұрын
@@Stinkmeaner420 just giving a prime example how the justice system in the UK is a complete joke.
@dudebro3250
@dudebro3250 11 ай бұрын
Tony Blair is a war criminal and still is as free as a bird.
@robertwoodward3085
@robertwoodward3085 11 ай бұрын
Simon spot on as usual...Jim white stating the obvious and calling for a cost reduction to suck up to the fans without accepting the undeniable fact that 95% of the revenues are going to greedy players, managers and agents
@norman5340
@norman5340 11 ай бұрын
Jim is playing "devil's advocate," Jim is asking the questions to cover the different perspectives. So it's not necessarily his view.
@elliotfreeman8042
@elliotfreeman8042 11 ай бұрын
They're missing the point here! Even if you pay for a subscription, you still can't watch your club play each week.
@simonfarrimond3664
@simonfarrimond3664 11 ай бұрын
there referring to the fact that everyweekend there is a least 2 matches shown live with the same big six clubs where as the smaller clubs barely get 1 per month so the money for each live game shown is so vast between the top 6 and the rest of the league is unfair to expect a palace fan to pay the same subscription as say a man city fan
@jakecook4816
@jakecook4816 11 ай бұрын
Here’s a solution, don’t support a team from 200 miles away cause they win cups. Go watch your local team
@bazler7681
@bazler7681 11 ай бұрын
@@jakecook4816 Etihad would be empty
@01JENNERS
@01JENNERS 11 ай бұрын
@@jakecook4816 stupid argument, what about a lower league team that doesn’t win anything, you still can’t watch games. Every fan should have the opportunity to watch their team
@chr4617
@chr4617 11 ай бұрын
​@@jakecook4816what if that local team has a small to medium sized stadium where all the local fans can't physically fit in the ground
@noogate2672
@noogate2672 11 ай бұрын
Fans don't want £30m players per se, they want success and the best players relative to whatever the market is. If the average price of a world class footballer was suddenly 10% of what it is now then no one would care.
@ivanaleksandartsanev1693
@ivanaleksandartsanev1693 11 ай бұрын
The players would care. Why not be angry at them?
@simonfarrimond3664
@simonfarrimond3664 11 ай бұрын
totally agree look at brighton signed players for 5m like macallister and mitoma but because they have had 1 good season there all of a sudden 50m plus players and clubs are daft enough to pay it so the inflation on transfer just mounts up
@jacksonbow2766
@jacksonbow2766 11 ай бұрын
​@@simonfarrimond3664 That is the big problem with the clubs having so much money now. They are wasteful with it now. Made up numbers and clubs will pay it because there is a myth that paying the most gets success. The bubble will burst one day and it will not be pretty for the EPL.
@mnemonija
@mnemonija 11 ай бұрын
Simon just hates capitalism when it does not suit him. Its supply and demand.
@axels9179
@axels9179 11 ай бұрын
@@ivanaleksandartsanev1693 Because the players only want and deserve their fair share of the profits, which they partly get. What some people believe is that the sport itself generate too much money (at the expense of fans) - but going after the players is obviously the wrong people to target. Football is the biggest sport in the world with billion of fans, of course it's going to generate ludicrous amounts of money, especially when they allow oil nations and billionaries to get in on the action and spend their money for publicity/exposure/whitewashing/sportswashing. If the company you work for earns billions and your work directly influence their increased income, of course you'd expect to be paid accordingly.
@hello150
@hello150 11 ай бұрын
Simon completely missing the point here. Buying Sky, BT etc doesn't allow you to watch your team's game necessarily. I'm a Wolves fan, and we are barely shown on those platforms. The bigger issue is this 3pm blackout.
@alastairbrewster4274
@alastairbrewster4274 11 ай бұрын
Exactly
@samwize28
@samwize28 11 ай бұрын
even if the 3pm blackout was removed - BT would only show one of the 3pms, and Sky one of the others. You still may end up being unable to watch your club play. Its not all 3pm kick offs too. Sometimes its Sunday 2pms that are inexplicably not shown in the UK. if i'm paying £75+ a month for two (or even 3) different subscriptions, I expect to be able to watch 100% of my clubs games. Until then i wont pay. Its like paying full whack for Netflix and only having access to episodes 2, 5 & 8 of a ten part tv series.
@tomwhite5868
@tomwhite5868 11 ай бұрын
​@@hello150 The issue that I see with a service that provides all the games on any given day (like an official PL streaming service) is how high would the price point be then? £150 p/m? £200? More? They start showing more games, they'll charge more for it and then just turn around and say "you wanted this service, we have increased costs to make it happen". Where does the price line get drawn before people just don't watch football anymore (or just go to the pubs)
@hello150
@hello150 11 ай бұрын
@@tomwhite5868 That's not necessarily what I envisage - mine would be more of a team based subscription. From my point of view, I only want to watch Wolves away games (as I attend all home games with a season ticket). I'm not arsed about other teams, but if you were, perhaps you could pay £10 a month per team you want to watch.
@2126beatz
@2126beatz 11 ай бұрын
​@@samwize28 👏🏾💯 well said❤
@derektomlinson2521
@derektomlinson2521 11 ай бұрын
Totally agree with Simon, if you ran a normal company like a football club you wouldn’t survive. My opinion to the public is boycott all the broadcasters until they and football sort out their own houses. Market forces can dictate anything if you are willing to sacrifice for a while.
@FreshAlchemy
@FreshAlchemy 11 ай бұрын
Simon just sat there and blamed the fans for demanding their clubs sign the next 30 or 40 million player, etc. It's not the fans who set the market value though, is it, they're just caught in the slipstream of the current financial climate. Simon's a hypocritical idiot, claiming he's all about "pulling the bottom up", yet he often speaks about the average working man as a king speaks about the peasants. He's a disgusting little oik.
@HdHd-hp6qz
@HdHd-hp6qz 11 ай бұрын
He only moans about what’s wrong with it. He doesn’t give a solution.
@xbriskx
@xbriskx 11 ай бұрын
​@@HdHd-hp6qz it's literally in the title of the video.
@angryanglocanadian7581
@angryanglocanadian7581 11 ай бұрын
Only problem with your theory is that the British public is only a fraction of total revenue. They could care less about you when they have 'fans' all around the world.
@derektomlinson2521
@derektomlinson2521 11 ай бұрын
@@angryanglocanadian7581 Then they are fools to keep giving their money, in these times. Can’t complain about prices if you support the mechanism of greed.
@lucasmoreno5330
@lucasmoreno5330 11 ай бұрын
Notice, Simon never mentioned how much profit is made by the broadcasters. Sky made a profit of £1.4bn in 2020. Instead he wants to cut the pay of the players. Every one of Simons (head blowing) response is laced with his pain of losing a fortune in football, which he no doubt blames on player wages.
@burner8959
@burner8959 11 ай бұрын
Simon is transparent as the day is long. We've had these same tropes for years in America about our sports players. They trot this out every couple years and funnily enough it's not the fans who would benefit from player's cut salaries, but the owners themselves with a bigger profit margin. Meanwhile these owners are making money hand over fist while the value of their clubs skyrocket. Please Simon, don't act the fool you are.
@stephenokpunor6402
@stephenokpunor6402 11 ай бұрын
you have a point but that doesn’t make him wrong, he’s spot on about the fact that they pay this players ridiculous wages and it can only kill the game
@simonfarrimond3664
@simonfarrimond3664 11 ай бұрын
most of the SKY profit is from over seas countries of how much they are willing to pay per country to have the PL rights to show
@robandrews8047
@robandrews8047 11 ай бұрын
BSKYB made that profit but that’s across all products and services not just related to football
@keiththomas1416
@keiththomas1416 11 ай бұрын
Ahhh......so 'business is now a charity' argument and making a profit is immoral. Well why not go the whole hog and nationalize football, and make every club 'people owned' in whatever Socialist Utopia you live in? Of course this excellent idea which you and so many of your Comrades often overlook is that football are often become the political playthings. I can imagine the massive benefits of having a PM has a Villa fan running the game. Maybe with the Great Leader Corbyn in charge Arsenal will win everything for eternity, or Raith Rovers becoming a powerhouse of European Football under Gordon Brown. I especially can't wait for all the Tory shires benefitting from extra revenue, after all there are loyal voters to be rewarded....
@petegonad
@petegonad 11 ай бұрын
Player contracts should be based on a much lower basic salary, 100k a year for example, with much bigger bonuses for appearances and goals, performance related. No more 5 year contracts where they end up doing nothing and picking up 50k a week.
@vikingfrog7204
@vikingfrog7204 11 ай бұрын
I'll just keep streaming. You'll never stop it. Either stop the prices for ridiculous money or expect others to steal it on the cheap.
@johannesvonsaaz3987
@johannesvonsaaz3987 11 ай бұрын
Why doesn’t Premier create their own channel for affordable prices and most people would then subscribe that would cut out most of illegal streams
@leemcqueen500
@leemcqueen500 10 ай бұрын
​@@johannesvonsaaz3987 People will stream for free regardless of the price.
@lee84
@lee84 11 ай бұрын
Simon made a great point to Jim about how on one hand he’s talking about reduction in TV costs but on the other hand talking non stop about sacking managers and transfers, both go hand in hand unfortunately
@Footballer85749
@Footballer85749 11 ай бұрын
Who has the decision making power to sack managers and make transfers? Owners. But don't blame them they are forced by the "fans" lmao give me a break.
@MW92.
@MW92. 11 ай бұрын
Simon = top LAD proper clobber
@nicmonberg5974
@nicmonberg5974 11 ай бұрын
No he didnt if you drop the price subs increase so you end up making same money and reduce piracy this is a fact research had been conducted to show this.
@motomoto8383
@motomoto8383 11 ай бұрын
Simon is the only one who actually understands this
@Footballer85749
@Footballer85749 11 ай бұрын
Sure but he also bootlicks Owners and leaves them out of the "equation" I wonder why?
@DarthQueefious
@DarthQueefious 11 ай бұрын
He has it backwards.
@Collier990RHCP
@Collier990RHCP 11 ай бұрын
He’s out of touch when it comes to this. £100 a month to him is change. He can’t relate
@SK-kh2rs
@SK-kh2rs 11 ай бұрын
He's not. He makes out footballers just kick a ball about. He doesn't understand how difficult it is for someone to make it to EPL. Simon himself is a failed footballer like all us fans 😂 you are.literally competing with all the kids from your generation to make it as a pro. Footballers deserve every penny. No other sector you have to compete with a huge genetically diverse talent pool. You can teach someone to be a nurse but you can't teach anyone to be a pro at EPL level
@cdeford
@cdeford 11 ай бұрын
Partly, but it's pointless asking players to voluntarily take lower wages. That's not the asnwer. It's all governed by self-interest and you have to force changes. That means it has to come from the football authorities whov'e shown no inclination to do anything. Or ownwers, who have the power to reduce wages but won't. Self-interest again.
@MrBarry465
@MrBarry465 11 ай бұрын
The 3pm blackout has to be abolished if they are serious about stopping piracy.
@MrUmpalumpa99
@MrUmpalumpa99 11 ай бұрын
The 3pm ban needs to be lifted. It was introduced before streaming sites were made so not broadcasting it defeats the purpose. I’m not going to watch my local team play when my football club isn’t on tv, I’ll find a steam and watch it at home
@masilomoshesh1475
@masilomoshesh1475 11 ай бұрын
I live in a 3rd world country and we pay much less for access to European football. You lot are getting scammed just to watch games that play in your own town/city/country.
@Denchanter
@Denchanter 11 ай бұрын
You pay what you can afford. It’s called economics
@gillie-monger3394
@gillie-monger3394 11 ай бұрын
Listen to the argument ffs! You pay less simply because your provider pays less. And why do they pay less? Because the overall demand in your '3rd world country' is less. Probably because there's not enough people with enough money to waste watching English football. And btw, there's no such thing as '3rd world' anymore it's called a 'developing country'.
@masilomoshesh1475
@masilomoshesh1475 11 ай бұрын
@@Denchanter Fair point but the subscriptions are almost similar in price. We just have DSTV/ Go TV as the cable network for most of the southern part of Africa and their able to get the broadcasting rights from these league. I've always taken them for granted.
@sweetdukes7031
@sweetdukes7031 11 ай бұрын
@@gillie-monger3394 that has got to be the dumbest argument I've ever heard. There are countries outside the UK that have a larger population and also has a larger following for teams like Arsenal, Man Utd, etc
@Denchanter
@Denchanter 11 ай бұрын
@@sweetdukes7031 it’s not a dumb argument. I accept that he was rude.
@jtmmmm27
@jtmmmm27 11 ай бұрын
People are currently choosing to have either food or gas, paying to watch football doesn't even enter the thought proccess.
@steve0500738
@steve0500738 11 ай бұрын
It will hit a point where the broadcasters will start losing too many customers to be able to make the arrangement with the Premier League profitable, at which point the bids for the rights will plateau or start falling. You might say someone else will come in and take over, and they might, but if Sky and BT cant make it profitable at certain price points, then any new broadcaster will have the same issue.
@vincentkariuki4227
@vincentkariuki4227 11 ай бұрын
This is bound to happen especially for sky...when comcast overplayed by alot for sky they were asking a gamble on sky being bigger than it already was,the biggest issue for sky is soccer has a stranglehold on UK among other sports,if they don't have the epl I think they fear they might even take a bigger hit with less subscriptions....I think if the epl was growing it audience in the UK on a free to air channel ,they broadcaster would have no choice but to get a deal that makes sense for them considering they are at the mercy of the advertisers and perhaps it would be an slight overpay while projecting towards the future but at the current moment with sky seems like the epl has them over a barrel and in turn sky thinks they are doing the same to their subscribers...the same goes for other markets every time the media rights are renewed the dish always increases to cover the overpay cos these companies can't make a loss especially if they have investors
@mnb9162
@mnb9162 11 ай бұрын
They all over-pay for Prem rights in order to up- sell all their other terrible content.... That's the model... Get the rights to a slice of Prem/UCL football... Then up-sell a tonne of sh*t...
@alexojideagu
@alexojideagu 11 ай бұрын
A huge amount of the Population DON'T have Sky/BT/Amazon due to price. Surely if they made it cheaper, more people would subscribe and it would take up the slack? 10 million houses paying £75 a month is better than 5 million paying £140 a month. Keep the same pricing for Pubs and business as they are more able to make money from it.
@mnb9162
@mnb9162 11 ай бұрын
@@alexojideagu The maths will be scrutinized and its likely that making it cheaper doesnt result in a big enough increase in subs.... Thre is a core base of customers who will pay the money regardless.... There is also the issue of up-selling.... SKY, BT, Amazon... All of these platforms up-sell their whole catalogue by trying to get you in the door with a bit of Prem or UCL football.... Making you pay for a tonne of sh*t....
@BirdLives7
@BirdLives7 11 ай бұрын
Prem should create their own Netflix just for football content. Say 40/ per month to watch every match whenever you want.
@joshuaskelton8737
@joshuaskelton8737 11 ай бұрын
To be fair would happily pay £50 a month to be able to watch every game the team I support plays. Pretty sure alot of other people would too.
@sickofit3192
@sickofit3192 11 ай бұрын
Nailed it!
@teamblitz1990
@teamblitz1990 11 ай бұрын
There has to be a realistic discussion about players salaries. This is destroying football.
@FreshAlchemy
@FreshAlchemy 11 ай бұрын
100% agree. I'm not a big fan of buzzwords like 'sustainable', but clearly the direction football finances have been heading in for a while now is completely unsustainable.
@russellharvey698
@russellharvey698 11 ай бұрын
GREED
@randomdudelol5263
@randomdudelol5263 10 ай бұрын
you should never blame it on the players salary, these guys played at a club level specifically for football since they were children. on average epl player gets about 3 to 4 mil and yet other sports like nba for example each player make 9 mil on average, average mlb player makes almost 5 mil, and these people didnt put in as much time as the average footballers since they were young, yet football wants to add in more games like with new ucl format, new club world cup format, new world cup format, its totally not fair no matter where u see it from, they should just make a closed super league and sort things out cleanly or smth
@russellharvey698
@russellharvey698 10 ай бұрын
@@randomdudelol5263 the flaw in your argument is that I bet if you check the NBA those teams arent in debt and constantly lose money! Also, it was and is a privilege to play for a club, these kids get plucked and supported for a long time! They means their families usually benefit too. As for competitions, that is down to UEFA and mafifa who want more money..... and why ... guess what ITS BECAUSE THE PLAYERS WANT BIG SALARIES AND ARE ALWAYS ASKING FOR MORE! GREED GREED GREED!
@randomdudelol5263
@randomdudelol5263 10 ай бұрын
@@russellharvey698 its not crazy at all, theyre supposed to ask more money, football is the most popular sports in the world but they still dont make as much as nfl cuz nfl can market their goods better, there are a lot more matches pirated in football than any other sports and its also weird that footballs prob the only sports that the big teams are fragmented as divided into completely different leagues, theyre supposed unite the big teams and find a way to stop pirating games, so more ppl watch legally and price goes down, never blame the players for the flawed system
@Tricky181
@Tricky181 11 ай бұрын
Carlton definitely has a dodgy streaming box
@pac8827
@pac8827 11 ай бұрын
😂 he’s got the fire stick hooked up
@kylejohnson5764
@kylejohnson5764 11 ай бұрын
he don't age that's all I know.. that's the real conundrum here lol
@ticklemetrout9625
@ticklemetrout9625 11 ай бұрын
It shows how bad the uk justice system is when they get a sentence like this but ( how can i word this without it being taken down ) someone can do a saville and get far less time inside.
@craigoliver8712
@craigoliver8712 11 ай бұрын
Shows what people really care about(the green not justice)
@ticklemetrout9625
@ticklemetrout9625 11 ай бұрын
@@craigoliver8712 totally agree
@andrewbarwick6370
@andrewbarwick6370 11 ай бұрын
I actually think the problem is the blackout. People don’t necessarily opt to commit crimes to watch football because of the price points. It’s an access issue. Because the games aren’t televised in the UK and only abroad, so the only option to watch your team is by committing a crime. This in 2023 is utterly ridiculous. Most people aren’t generally criminals, but you have to understand fans love there teams so much they will do whatever it takes to watch them live. I think if Sky for example had broadcast rights for every Premier League game, people would happily subscribe. They could offer single team access for a cheaper price for people who only want to watch there side. You could also then have a full season package for a higher cost. Would this fix the problem entirely? Absolutely not, but it would certainly help. I’m a Newcastle fan and getting a ticket is pretty much impossible, due to demand. Everybody should be able to watch there side if they are willing to pay and watch it through legal means.
@paparucoontour
@paparucoontour 11 ай бұрын
Two main issues that need to be addressed; 1. Player wages. Put a cap in place. Agree at PL level what would it be and implement it. Maybe at the start there will be a few players that go elsewhere but it will all fall into place no doubt. It would also mean real competition and more clubs fighting for titles. 2. Agents. These leeches are ransacking football across the board. Until this people are not put in their place nothing will change.
@markusbisma5015
@markusbisma5015 11 ай бұрын
It only works if the cap implemented in all the top leagues in Europe. Otherwise Real Madrid, PSG, and Barca will only gobble up the talents.
@langtonmudzva6202
@langtonmudzva6202 11 ай бұрын
Michael Jordan once explained why its crazy how athletes now get crazy amounts of money just off the potential they possess. Athletes now have clauses & packages with certain guaranteed payouts, some players have clauses with private planes with their families/entourage. Jordan says some athletes have lost the principal of earning the rewards of your talent. We've seen players like Oscar literally saying he went to China because of the ridiculous high wages. Now we have players who don't care about playing/give 100% effort as long as the money is coming in. On top of that due to this crazy money some players get a "bigger than the club" treatment because of their monetary value for the business side of the club. At some point it makes football boring & fans are at the receiving end of clubs wanting to make their money back from these amounts they pay for players
@gunzlepug
@gunzlepug 11 ай бұрын
Sure have seen players showing little desire and giving minimal effort because they get paid whatever. Life of Rily.
@welshhibby
@welshhibby 11 ай бұрын
Simon really is the 'jewel in the crown' of TalkSport.
@michaelcain721
@michaelcain721 11 ай бұрын
Diamond in a turd more like
@FreshAlchemy
@FreshAlchemy 11 ай бұрын
He belongs here, this is his level. You're all getting blinded by his hypocritical bullshit.
@Baldrick_dogsbody
@Baldrick_dogsbody 11 ай бұрын
I have a friend of mine whose first name is jewel. And he is a man. No joke.
@theh3mpourium113
@theh3mpourium113 8 ай бұрын
About the only one who speaks sense and actually understands the common man 😂
@daviel1005
@daviel1005 11 ай бұрын
If you are paying much more than £50/month for BT and Sky combined, you need to check your monthly bill and see what else is in there. The guy saying he was paying £160/month probably calls his mate in Australia twice a day and wonders why his monthly bill is so high. Goodness knows I've got family members like that.
@leemc5646
@leemc5646 11 ай бұрын
😁
@ryanflood635
@ryanflood635 11 ай бұрын
You can get Sky for £20 a month if you go through now tv and get a deal. But again price is one issue but the biggest problem is they pick and choose what games to show
@All-Things-Boxing
@All-Things-Boxing 11 ай бұрын
If you can’t afford £160 per month for something like Tv/broadband etc then you’re not working hard enough. We all have the same 24hrs on a day, get up and be a go getter!
@mikem8211
@mikem8211 11 ай бұрын
​@@All-Things-Boxing I'm on 300 a day & I'm struggling mate god knows how the people on 25k a year even survive never mind pay sky 😅
@Stinkmeaner420
@Stinkmeaner420 11 ай бұрын
@@All-Things-Boxing nothing wrong with paying 160 a month, EXCEPT YOU DON'T EVEN GET HALF THE GAMES COS OF THE FUCKIN BLACKOUT
@abyss7049
@abyss7049 11 ай бұрын
The real criminals are the broadcasters. The guys that were sentenced are modern Robin Hood's in my opinion!!! Also if the broadcasters reduced what they were willing to pay to acquire these rights, then these greedy footballers on huge contracts would have no option to reduce their demands when the greed fuelled contracts they are already on were coming to an end. If broadcasters agreed that there was a threshold they were not willing to go above in terms of paying for rights then the prices would come down. However, this will never happen, because if one broadcaster did bid lower the other broadcaster would just go higher. It's a vicious circle
@JnoPrds
@JnoPrds 11 ай бұрын
You’ve got it the wrong way around. Broadcasters have to pay high because that’s what the premier league (ie the 20 member clubs) set the price at. The clubs set this price because they have to pay crazy player salaries. If you trace it back to the origin it stops at the players and their agents. You introduce a pay cap then everything flows through and would cost less. You have to trace the money back all the way. You can’t stop at the middle of the chain (ie at broadcasters).
@abyss7049
@abyss7049 11 ай бұрын
@@JnoPrds Even if thats true, the broadcasters could say we won't bid a penny over this. Gentleman handshake, but thats cuckoo land to think that would ever happen. Clubs can ask for what they want but if broadcasters refused to pay it then it would trickle down. It's just a shambles
@DazMellor17
@DazMellor17 11 ай бұрын
Incredible, Simon spits facts and Jim is just emotionally unstable about it 🤣🤣
@bubbwa
@bubbwa 11 ай бұрын
It’s all about availability! Why can’t I watch my team when they play? I live in the uk and pay for all the subscriptions but can’t watch my team on a Saturday at 3pm when the rest of the world can!
@tevildo45
@tevildo45 11 ай бұрын
It’s mad that people only get angry at footballers earning loads a money, maybe it’s cos they’re working class. Pop stars, golfers, F1 drivers, top tennis players, politicians all make massive amounts of money but nobody seems to mind that
@thatsplenty1
@thatsplenty1 11 ай бұрын
Nonsense
@tevildo45
@tevildo45 11 ай бұрын
I agree Martin. As usual Simon is talking nonsense
@alastairbrewster4274
@alastairbrewster4274 11 ай бұрын
@@thatsplenty1 bet you voted brexit , you have no analytical intelligence
@roddiej
@roddiej 11 ай бұрын
I think this argument applies to all live broadcasts. Football is only being used as the example. Come on guys…
@rafaundisputedgoat2024
@rafaundisputedgoat2024 11 ай бұрын
Remember, top tennis players is VERY limited to players like Federer, Djokovic, Nadal, Murray and Williams over the years. This is also based on performances in tournaments, and money from sponsors. You can't steal a living for 5 years like Drinkwater in tennis. The quantity of players in the Premier League earning huge sums is much, much higher.
@aaronfrancis134
@aaronfrancis134 11 ай бұрын
Simons a businessman and he only ever looks at things from that perspective. Businessman don’t care about your everyday human. We’re numbers and money to them
@alastairbrewster4274
@alastairbrewster4274 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@KJB99UTS14
@KJB99UTS14 11 ай бұрын
Listen to what he saying people's greed from sport stars and sport agents milking it. Everyone in the game milking as much they can (don't blame them ). It's basically its a domino effect and the people that suffer the most is the working person that needs to pay more to cover all the other costs . For the braodcasters to pay to show it and pay the league . League pay the clubs and the clubs pay the players . Domino effect .
@ivanaleksandartsanev1693
@ivanaleksandartsanev1693 11 ай бұрын
I rarely ever agree with Jordan but he is 100% correct in his assessment and it takes very simple economical and financial knowledge to understand that. But most people are simpletons that need their hand being held.
@motomoto8383
@motomoto8383 11 ай бұрын
YES THATS WHY YOURE BEING RIPPED OFF BY SKY BT ETC. AND WHY YOU PAY 90 QUID FOR A JERSEY
@vincentkariuki4227
@vincentkariuki4227 11 ай бұрын
​@@KJB99UTS14 It's not the EPL that sets the price for the Sky sports package or BT...if you overpay the media rights to a league seems like you've put your company in a bind cos then you have to overcharge the customer and thats what happens...its not the players...its the greed of the networks who seem stupid enough to pay the epl way too money for a relatively smaller audience than what other major sports league get...3ish million a game for 10mi pounds,that's insane...that's just sky....its really stupid passing along the cost to the viewing audience cos there's going to be a tipping point where less people can afford 200 pounds a month to watch a few EPL games
@roddiej
@roddiej 11 ай бұрын
I agree with Simon. Supporters have the option to choose the broadcast from their own club at much less than the big broadcasters
@roathripper
@roathripper 11 ай бұрын
it used to be free on ITV and BBC, it's the national game, fans think it's their birthright to watch. They've seen how far it's gone and in this age of financial crisis won't put up with the fleecing no more.
@notfirstyourlast
@notfirstyourlast 11 ай бұрын
Quite easy Simon, when The FA are selling rights, make the caveat that they buy the rights to all games. If the clubs get less revenue so be it. They will adjust their spend and budgets accordingly.
@vincentkariuki4227
@vincentkariuki4227 11 ай бұрын
That's not how it works,the epl sells packages to the networks,some big some small...paid tv has programming too and games are played on certain days cos of some antitrust laws...if sky is buying its package of not so many games at 10m a game that's as a result of scarcity...the major problem and what Simon doesn't address well is that unless the broadcasters have a stake in the epl they are under no obligation to overpay rights fees,but they do cos it allows them to then increase the sub for sky sports cos they know there is a huge segment that will stay regardless of how much they are overcharged...if ad revenue isn't increasing at the same proportion as subscription money that tells you everything you need to know about the business model or even the carriage fees from the cable or satellite operator
@Hulkage7
@Hulkage7 11 ай бұрын
I think the problem is that you cant follow your team in every game, with these UK subscriptions. You want to watch every game your team play, but you cant because of the 3pm blackout, which is now a stupid rule. For some clubs its so hard to get tickets/ season tickets, so how else are you suppose to watch your team play if its not broadcast, or you cant get a ticket without finding a "dodgy stream".
@Dave-nq6uy
@Dave-nq6uy 11 ай бұрын
Dodgy? Bro, some of these streams are HD and work perfectly.
@Hulkage7
@Hulkage7 11 ай бұрын
@@Dave-nq6uy Yeah but they still class as dodgy
@Dave-nq6uy
@Dave-nq6uy 11 ай бұрын
@@Hulkage7 dodgy is charging people lots of money to watch a few games a month. Streams are fine.
@jonnewman7203
@jonnewman7203 11 ай бұрын
TV companies pay exorbitant amounts to secure rights, then charge advertisers and subscribers exorbitant amounts accordingly to try and make a profit. We, the public, have no say in what advertisers pay, yet we end up as end consumers paying a premium on those products and complain about price inflation. Same with sponsors - they just keep paying higher prices and we ultimately get hit in the pocket. The only way it will end is if people stop buying products associated with football, which let's face it isn't going to happen any time soon.
@aveshjarbandhan2058
@aveshjarbandhan2058 11 ай бұрын
In south africa, our broadcaster shows every single epl match live. Costs about 40£ per month, and that includes most other sports included in that price
@davidheaton5765
@davidheaton5765 11 ай бұрын
It's a circle of greed, from the broadcasters to footballers, owners, and sponsors. We are all the gullible cattle that keep them as the 1%.
@Stimson122
@Stimson122 11 ай бұрын
Would absolutely love for there to be a streaming service similar to the what the NBA and NFL have, where every single game is available. Understand that’s a lot easier said than done though
@BirdLives7
@BirdLives7 11 ай бұрын
Agree, say they charge 40-50 per month to be able to stream any game whenever you want. They could make 5-6 billion per year in broadcast miney and the fans would get what they want.
@SpookyBry
@SpookyBry 11 ай бұрын
Already here in America. $10/mo gets every prom game and that networks entire catalogue. For ~$25/mo and combining multiple subscriptions, we get every game in the top 5 leagues in Europe including the championship, FA Cup, Europa and UEFA Champions League. I am mind-boggled learning how bad you're own country has it. I had no idea.
@MrCarnivoure
@MrCarnivoure 11 ай бұрын
Yes, the prices are too high, particularly that to watch every game, apart from Saturday blackout, you have to go into contract with several broadcasters. It should only be one broadcaster
@SanaagSoulja
@SanaagSoulja 11 ай бұрын
Interesting debate. I think FIFA and UEFA need to do something about the over-inflated salaries and transfer fees. Apparently, FFP regulations are not enough. If things don't change, piracy will become the norm and you can't blame the consumers, to be honest.
@Rain188
@Rain188 11 ай бұрын
No wonder most of those players pass by fans without looking at them. Even the most mediocre player is a privileged millionaire if not multi millionaire
@alastairbrewster4274
@alastairbrewster4274 11 ай бұрын
You’re totally misunderstanding the entire situation , you just love SJ and can’t see beyond your nose
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 11 ай бұрын
Why shouldn't they be paid what they deserve?
@aeyassu10
@aeyassu10 11 ай бұрын
PL needs to launch a subscription based platform like the NBA League Pass here in the USA. It’s only $90 per year if you want to follow one team or $200 for all teams.
@craigoliver8712
@craigoliver8712 11 ай бұрын
But baggy ball is yawn
@kvnthms
@kvnthms 11 ай бұрын
​@@craigoliver8712 But they get more from broadcasters. Why would they do that. That would mean less ppl watching on Sky Bt and less money Sky Bt would pay to them.
@craigoliver8712
@craigoliver8712 11 ай бұрын
@@kvnthms Think you've answered the wrong dude-dude
@kvnthms
@kvnthms 11 ай бұрын
@@craigoliver8712 Yeah 🤣
@kirkham111
@kirkham111 11 ай бұрын
@@kvnthmsif the prem did their own subscription service for £9pm they would make and absolute fortune more then what the Broadcasters make them
@wayneperry7413
@wayneperry7413 11 ай бұрын
I’m an Aussie Rules fan in Australia - we have live broadcasts at the same time as game time for the vast majority of games in a season, attendances are as good as they have been, even though season memberships and game day tickets are a bit pricey (plus food prices at the stadium are ridiculous)
@jakecook4816
@jakecook4816 11 ай бұрын
It’s not the premier league clubs that will suffer if you lose the blackout. It’ll be the 72 EFL clubs baring a few with huge support
@Burl900
@Burl900 11 ай бұрын
At one point I paid for 4 separate subscriptions and sometimes still couldn’t watch all the matches live. Sometimes they offer it and then they say it’s unavailable.
@willmoseling3359
@willmoseling3359 11 ай бұрын
This is just 14 minutes of Jim and Carlton completely misunderstanding Simon’s argument. If it’s the case that 95% of the broadcasting money goes straight into the pockets of players, then how much wiggle room is there really for lowering subscriptions prices, without player salary cuts? The broadcasting money is a major source of income for clubs, and so if clubs are constantly having to spend more and more on wages and fees as a result of a hyper-inflated market, then the broadcasting costs set by the PL need to be higher, and so broadcasting services pay more and need to charge us more to make it viable. No change happens without the club running costs, vast majority of which is player salaries, coming down first!
@AJ-xv7oh
@AJ-xv7oh 11 ай бұрын
Alot of wiggle room. Everyone involved is making extraordinary profits and that's just at 5%.
@willmoseling3359
@willmoseling3359 11 ай бұрын
@@AJ-xv7oh Clubs aren't making extraordinary profits. That 5% is left for wages of the rest of the staff, running costs etc.
@d3po607
@d3po607 11 ай бұрын
YOUR PART OF THE PROBELM the price of the monthly subscription is not the real problem its the 3pm blackout. i have been able to pay for all subscriptions for years now but on principle if they can not show every single match im not paying for any of them.
@101Larz
@101Larz 11 ай бұрын
True but put this the other way around, if you make the cost of broadcasting cheaper then players can’t keep asking for these insane wages because they will simply not get it. Also in the UK people are getting ripped off, I live in the Netherlands and pay a total of €25 a month (£20) to watch every premier league, champions league, fa cup, carabao cup and the Europa league. Not to mention I can watch most of the other leagues as well. You guys are paying 5 times to not be able to watch 3 pm kick-offs.
@d3po607
@d3po607 11 ай бұрын
@@101Larz how does player wages effect the 3pm blackout. it doesnt plus i dont pay any subscription. i would if all matches were avaible but since i cant get them all i pay for non of them. Plus players deserve what they get what should chnage is how they are paid i.e performance based if they play bad those on 250,000 need a reduction based on how they play
@rndompersn3426
@rndompersn3426 11 ай бұрын
I kinda agree with Jordon but its not just football and footballers. This is a phenomena all over the entertainment industry. Take Ticketmaster for instance. They take the lionshare of money for events and dont really offer anything other than tickets that you have to print out yourself anyway. Its just one of the consequences of capitalism. Same with landlords.
@camcunningham9443
@camcunningham9443 11 ай бұрын
Lol at same with landlords. You are clueless beyond belief. The landlords are just a tier up. They’re still at the behest of the banks
@jaedon7446
@jaedon7446 11 ай бұрын
I would love to see the data Simon is talking about to suggest that elastic demand does not exist for football. I understand his point “if you lower ticket prices, other accommodations will rise”, but I find it very hard to believe that if you lower the price of tickets and tv subscriptions, that demand for said product would not increase.
@batman1980
@batman1980 11 ай бұрын
Spot on Simon. Footballers could earn half and still be mega rich and never need to work again. IPTV would only be killed off if legitimate subscription services were pretty much equivalent to the cost of IPTV and to achieve that they would have to pay less for the rights which gives clubs less to spend on players. The future is bleak, I can see even more subscription services in the future so at the moment we have sky, bt and Amazon, but in the long term the number of providers will grow as TV revenue will only grow IMO. Thus IPTV will continue.
@kaypakaipa8559
@kaypakaipa8559 11 ай бұрын
Nonsense u just as clueless as Simon Jordan! Theres something called supply & demand, players are paid by us bcoz we give them the money! Stop paying in masse and broadcaster will adjust price and re negotiate payouts with clubs
@yester9037
@yester9037 11 ай бұрын
Player Salaries are a result of the high revenue generated by the game, not the other way round.
@Killerkwoi13
@Killerkwoi13 11 ай бұрын
No it isn’t. The high salaries are a result of Russian and Arab money coming into the game and absolutely destroying the eco system of the wage / revenue structure of football
@hi-ls6lt
@hi-ls6lt 11 ай бұрын
@@Killerkwoi13 just Russian and Arab money? Explain the likes of Man Utd and Barcelona then who have paid some players extortionate money and now it’s coming back to haunt them.
@Killerkwoi13
@Killerkwoi13 11 ай бұрын
@@hi-ls6lt because state owned arab clubs and russian oligarch money caused hyper inflation in the eco system of wages, destroying the balance of clubs only spending what they generate. Utd and barca overpay but that isn't their fault originally, and its not just those clubs, but all clubs in the prem basically have to overpay now, because our wage structure is out of control, blame chelsea, citeh, psg for that
@eXpressYourselfClips
@eXpressYourselfClips 11 ай бұрын
​@@hi-ls6lt Right! Everyone involved is to blame and whoever can't see that is biased
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 11 ай бұрын
​@@Killerkwoi13 this is BS. Citys wage bill was half Barca and Reals just 2 years ago. City have never had a single player on 500k a week. Barca and Real have had loads. Who says they have to have the best players? They don't have a devine right to have the highest wage bill.
@dmerls8571
@dmerls8571 11 ай бұрын
I agree that the average premier league football fan is ravenous for player spending. They will picket on the streets against a chairman they think doesn't spend enough or well enough. But I sense Simon Jordan would never consider criticizing the owners and corporate leaders for their parts in the ever expanding prices.
@Footballer85749
@Footballer85749 11 ай бұрын
Exactly. He says everyone is part of the problem, but fails to mention the owners. Why? Because he still does business with them.
@ianj7789
@ianj7789 11 ай бұрын
I am a English Leeds United fan living in Perth Australia. It is too expensive here also. Though i'm not an Aussie rules fan, their game has salary caps It is way to expensive because - 1- Players are paid to much, Salary Caps. Players today would rather play, & better for their clubs than their country, WHY ? Money, they get paid so much the British pounds/Aus dollars, Euros etc slip out of their pockets 2 - Managers paid too much. 3 Greed of money by Broadcasters/people such as Optus, Sky sports, BT Etc, Betting companies (it has all become a big money game/Sports world) 4 - Game & season ticket, kit/product prices are too high, It is SUPPOSED TO BE the WORKING MANS GAME ! All prices driven up by fore mentioned items. Like a snowball it all adds & grows to the final big snowball. Everybody wants "THEIR PIECE OF THE PIE" !!
@allanwilliams8231
@allanwilliams8231 11 ай бұрын
Im in Australia and optus put prices up from $15 a month to $25 this season, we can watch any game though, see what it is next year, also have to get paramount + to watch fa cup final, which i will cancel after as theres nothing else on there to watch, ucl we have to get stan. The uk prices are pathetic
@patrickkelly6590
@patrickkelly6590 11 ай бұрын
Players don't pay themselves big wages! The clubs offer the money.. What is a player gona do say no?
@craigoliver8712
@craigoliver8712 11 ай бұрын
Make even a token gesture to give back like Juan Mata+a few others have(way too few though)
@patrickkelly6590
@patrickkelly6590 11 ай бұрын
@@craigoliver8712 or people stop getting the service because of the price and market forces will drive it down thus players wages will drop due to less revenue or a salary cap there is no other way the subscription falls in price.
@JimMelton-uf7rg
@JimMelton-uf7rg 11 ай бұрын
10% of their wages should go back to their local community.
@patrickkelly6590
@patrickkelly6590 11 ай бұрын
@@JimMelton-uf7rg 10 percent would stay in the local community if people stopped paying ridiculous amounts for Sky/BT sports in the first place.. Cancel your subscription and watch the price fall..
@JY-100
@JY-100 11 ай бұрын
Simon Jordan AGAIN. Nothing but facts. What a guy.
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 11 ай бұрын
Top Lad Proper Clobber ✊💯 Facts
@MW92.
@MW92. 11 ай бұрын
The DON only speaks in fluent truths. Simon = top LAD proper clobber. Welcome to the jordanites JY
@sannirafiu6200
@sannirafiu6200 11 ай бұрын
It is expensive in the UK. And for few games too. In Nigeria for example u can watch almost all ten games every weekend on supersport for even less than half d price ppl pay for in d UK. So I agree with Simon.
@JonasFilberg
@JonasFilberg 11 ай бұрын
In Norway to watch all of English football (premier league, fa cup, carabao and championship) it's all on one channel for 749 kr which is 54 pounds in todays exchange rate.
@WhiteScriber
@WhiteScriber 11 ай бұрын
i would assume that almost all players in pro football would prefer to play for 2k a week, rather than flipping burgers or being in jail, which would be their most likely outcome, at least for most of them. you would see the same football, and the tickets would be affordable. and the tv rights would be much lower and they could refinance the cost through advertising easily. all games could start at the same time saturday afternoon. problem is greed....
@Jordan-qj7we
@Jordan-qj7we 11 ай бұрын
Exactly. If you said to all players in top leagues, no matter who you are or what your name is, you get 10k per week take it or leave it, not sure many of them would turn it down to go work on checkouts at their local tesco.
@WhiteScriber
@WhiteScriber 11 ай бұрын
@@Jordan-qj7we spot on
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 11 ай бұрын
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊
@MW92.
@MW92. 11 ай бұрын
Just the fact I needed to see through some of these BS comments.
@DarthQueefious
@DarthQueefious 11 ай бұрын
The money goes in then the players wages go up, not the other way round Demand is what drives up the prices, which then drives up the wages. Wage controls would only give more money to non-playing staff, it would do nothing to lower demand. Executives play an important role, but we watch football for the players.
@wilderjai
@wilderjai 11 ай бұрын
The Prem will eventually have to adopt the “American “ model of salary caps and shared tv revenues. Even with that the league has to have cost containment i.e player/manager/agent salaries or only a Super League model will make sense because only the top teams will survive. If Barca , Juve and PSG have financial problems, then everyone else is vulnerable.
@soccerwagsgfo
@soccerwagsgfo 11 ай бұрын
Simon Jordan hates players. Why can't Sky take a pay cut, How much money does SKY MAKE FROM THE PREMIER LEAGUE EVERY YEAR FROM ADVERTISING, GAMBLING, AND SUBSCRIPTION FEES? You only want the players to take a pay cut.
@Footballer85749
@Footballer85749 11 ай бұрын
Like a true businessman Simon is the biggest gaslighter in football. Never mentioned owners even ONCE. Surprise surprise.
@JnoPrds
@JnoPrds 11 ай бұрын
The biggest expense of every club are player remuneration, transfer fees and agent fees. I don’t know what your point is. Even if every football owner was running as a non profit and they don’t take salary or money out, the cost base of players don’t change. Hence broadcast rights remain high. Hence ticket and streaming price remain high. It’s the players that our taking the most money out of the pockets of the average punter. Don’t be a bigot and accept facts.
@simonfarrimond3664
@simonfarrimond3664 11 ай бұрын
the reason why 3pm kick offs where not allowed for live Tv was the fear of effecting attendances at the grounds but the vast amount of tv money each club gets overweighs that argument 10 fold.. However with the Efl agreeing a 1b deal with sky to show nearly 1000 live games over 5 season including the 3pms we will see how that effects the homes games going forward or weather away fans just do not bother stumping the nearly £200 just to travel match ticket food drink and sometimes accommodation just for 1 game or just stay at home and watch it on the box much cheaper I guess we will have to wait and see
@stevenhadfield3151
@stevenhadfield3151 11 ай бұрын
There should be team subscriptions and game subscriptions, just like season tickets and match day tickets at a stadium. A season price for all games from the team you support/want to watch and then a one off game price. I'd pay a few hundred pounds a year to watch all my team's games on TV. I might pay a few quid for a few interesting games here and there too. All this £100/month + - for a fraction of the games you might want to watch is just too much. They've overcomplicated the price structure and everything is too fragmented to interest a lot of consumers.
@craigshurmur6132
@craigshurmur6132 11 ай бұрын
We need Simon’s idea of the Netflix of football
@stevethomas4310
@stevethomas4310 11 ай бұрын
Simon talks a lot of sense. The problem here is that people interrupt him and change the point of discussion so you never get the full rounded answer.
@JohnDoe-gx8di
@JohnDoe-gx8di 11 ай бұрын
LOOL as Carlton said.. "thats one way of looking at it, but I look at in in another way "🤣🤣🤣
@FreshAlchemy
@FreshAlchemy 11 ай бұрын
Simon also talks a lot of crap. It takes a critical eye to spot his constant BS but most thickos just think agreeing with everything he says makes them look and feel smart.
@FreshAlchemy
@FreshAlchemy 11 ай бұрын
@@JohnDoe-gx8di Well what's funny about that, Simon is only giving his personal opinion as a failed football club manager. He's often wrong, hence why he's a failed football club manager.
@stuandtheguitar5689
@stuandtheguitar5689 11 ай бұрын
Why cant there be a game pass? The NFL do it. You pay for the season, and can watch any game you want. This way i get to see the LA Rams EVERY week
@renegadeoffunk32
@renegadeoffunk32 11 ай бұрын
Im a brit living in America and i can tell you the broadcasting here and revenuebsharing between Players and Owners allow stadiums to fill up, teams to watch each of their local games on television and the top players to make a ton of money.
@tevildo45
@tevildo45 11 ай бұрын
That’s fair enough Simon, let players take less money but don’t you dare ever increase ticket prices, i want clubs to stop fleecing fans on jerseys and merchandise as well etc; what’s good for the goose
@Killerkwoi13
@Killerkwoi13 11 ай бұрын
The reason the clubs are fleecing you is because players agents and managers are fleecing the clubs with ludicrous salaries
@roddiej
@roddiej 11 ай бұрын
This sis a hen and chicken story!
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 11 ай бұрын
​@@Killerkwoi13 this is BS. The TV revenue doubled in 2013. Remind me, how much did they lower ticket prices and shirts? The answer is zero. They continued to raise prices because all they care about is profits. Players wages don't set the market. The TV deal does. When they TV revenue goes up 50% then so does player wages. That's how it should be. If the chairman stopped price gouging every year player salaries wouldn't increase.
@Killerkwoi13
@Killerkwoi13 11 ай бұрын
@@russellward4624 why did the revenue magically double in 2013? did the TV companies just benevolently say we feel like offering more money for no apparent reason? or was it that the clubs and premier league demanded more money for the TV rights so as to plug the extortionate wage bill that had been spiralling out of control when Chelsea and Citeh destroyed the eco system of the game
@vincentkariuki4227
@vincentkariuki4227 11 ай бұрын
​@@russellward4624 its funny people don't understand simple economics here,the epl got in a position where they leverages they popularity outside of the UK and I think they must've told sky and other domestic media partners that they can do without their money and that would have probably had sky sports loose alot of their subs so to rectify that sky figured they can do the same for their audience by passing on the cost for how much the overpaid by ...tv revenue is the one stream of revenue that most clubs are guaranteed and make the most of,if tv providers don't pay exorbitant money that means clubs would spend less within the FFP rules ...its not that hard to follow when their are FFP rules in place...they can only spend what they have and in some cases teams sell players to fund the payroll for the other remaining players
@lukewilliams419
@lukewilliams419 11 ай бұрын
This issue need to be looked at through the perspective of 3 parties. Premier league/broadcasters and finally fans. Currently the league are benefitting the most in this 3 way relationship, the broadcasters have an average deal as they are paying exorbitant prices to the premier league rights and losing customers to illegal streams however they charge an arm and a leg for a select number of games. The fan is the worst off, multiple packages, cost etc. How do we change this whilst trying to keep competition amongst broadcasters? My answer would be the premier league should offer a flat fee (set by the FA) which means 5/6 broadcasters can have access to all games not a select few. Naturally the market forces will determine the monthly fee, for example I would rather pay Amazon £20 a month for all games with no analysis/punditry than paying £130 for BT with Neville et al. But some fans might be willing to pay more for this. For my fellow economic nerds a natural oligopoly has to be cultured. Unless something like this happens the premier league bubble will burst and we will see players leaving wholesale to other leagues as clubs can't maintain wages or we will see premier league games held in 'more profitable' locations.......
@redouanedjerboua8869
@redouanedjerboua8869 11 ай бұрын
Simon, everyone who buys a product is responsible for the price he is paying for that product. If a product is overpriced, that's not the product fault. The salaries offered to players are outrageous, but that's not the player's fault. PL is paying clubs, that is their fault, broadcaster are paying the PL, their mistake and consumers are buying subscriptions, game tickets...their fault as well. You can only regulate this if every buyer stops buying overpriced products, and that would be mainly clubs, big clubs are driving players prices to indecent amounts
@lks3416
@lks3416 11 ай бұрын
This guy Never misses a chance to blame the most essential part football...the players
@johnjones8026
@johnjones8026 11 ай бұрын
hes not wrong those is he? the only reason players are on so much is down to the TV money, this is the sole reason the premier league is where it is. If TV money stopped, you bet your bottom dollar that the salaries wouldnt go up so much.
@JRK2669
@JRK2669 11 ай бұрын
The players are greedy brats
@saab2906
@saab2906 11 ай бұрын
@@johnjones8026 add a salary cap job done but they don’t care so they won’t and haven’t bothered
@Killerkwoi13
@Killerkwoi13 11 ай бұрын
Fans are the most integral part of football, not players
@diegolove173
@diegolove173 11 ай бұрын
It's not the player's fault ! Sky and the FA did this now the EPL is the most watch league in the world and you have to attract the best players to sell the right of the league
@donaldduck5553
@donaldduck5553 11 ай бұрын
Simon spot on, these player wages are out of control and have a massive toll down effect
@kaypakaipa8559
@kaypakaipa8559 11 ай бұрын
Oh stop it, Simon is waffling again, players are paid by us, if we decide to not to pay the broadcaster will adjust, Wake up🤡
@donaldduck5553
@donaldduck5553 10 ай бұрын
@@kaypakaipa8559what a load of nonsense! It’s called inflation, mainly due to clubs like PSG, Chelsea, Man City and now the Saudi league! We don’t pay them a thing, u wake up 🤡
@oscaranthony9652
@oscaranthony9652 11 ай бұрын
Simon's understanding of business around modern sports is as good as it gets. Football really need more people of such understanding!
@FreshAlchemy
@FreshAlchemy 11 ай бұрын
Yeah it's so good that he bankrupted himself at Crystal Palace, and hasn't owned a club since. He will forever be known as a failed football club owner, yet he sits there telling everyone else how to run their business like he didn't fail. It's a joke. What a hypocrite. That is exactly why he suits this piss-poor radio station down to the ground.
@fredfredrickson5436
@fredfredrickson5436 11 ай бұрын
Hang on, didn't he lose his fortune to the game? Don't confuse brains with bluster. 🤣
@russellharvey698
@russellharvey698 11 ай бұрын
actually it is not hard to understand if you look at basic accounting / businesses. The expenses are way to high v revenue. simple as. Then you just look at historical numbers. amortization is simple too... straight line. transfers in the premier are overpriced too
@fredfredrickson5436
@fredfredrickson5436 11 ай бұрын
@@russellharvey698 Reflecting on the Premier League as if it were a competitive business environment is a fundamental misapprehension; it shares far too many similarities with the broader economy for that to be the case. 🤣
@russellharvey698
@russellharvey698 11 ай бұрын
@@fredfredrickson5436 if you run a business whereby the salaries account for 90% of expenses then it would fail quickly.. so football isnt similar. Duh
@kkwi5252
@kkwi5252 11 ай бұрын
I’m hoping at some point someone like Amazon buys the rights and broadcasts like a streaming service would, instead of this archaic broadcasting with blackouts. I’d be happier to pay the money if I had access to all the games, but atm it’s split over multiple platforms that each overcharge, and even then you don’t get all the games! I’ve heard good things about IPTV though… ask a friend lol
@guyjackson1261
@guyjackson1261 11 ай бұрын
Simon is 100% correct. The market is what it is, if you want to change it then the wages, cost of players and broadcasting rights will all have to come down. The fact of it is they don't need to, it is sustainable because enough people are willing to pay for match tickets/subscriptions. No amount of idealism or whining will change these facts.
@riddley39
@riddley39 11 ай бұрын
What a brilliant character Carlton Palmer is! Legend!
@MrUmpalumpa99
@MrUmpalumpa99 11 ай бұрын
I think the majority of consumers wouldn’t mind paying the costs if they were allowed to watch every game but the fact about 25-30% of the games aren’t televised because of the 3pm rule makes the consumer feel ripped off. The only way we can watch the 3pm games is to stream them
@6CaptainFalcon9
@6CaptainFalcon9 11 ай бұрын
I live in Australia and I pay $10 a month for Optus sports. I get all the EPL and La Liga. The same issue exists with Australian rules football. At the most 4 games a weekend if you don’t buy Foxtel which is far too expensive. It’s a problem with all sports it seems. Cricket is also in a similar situation sadly.
@siddhantmehta1591
@siddhantmehta1591 11 ай бұрын
Love Simon and his passion and honesty
@MW92.
@MW92. 11 ай бұрын
Simon = top LAD proper clobber
@grassrootsfootball225
@grassrootsfootball225 11 ай бұрын
Simon Jordans ignorance never ceases to amaze me
@JRK2669
@JRK2669 11 ай бұрын
He's right
@garybriers4986
@garybriers4986 11 ай бұрын
He’s absolutely bang on. What are you talking about?
@soccerwagsgfo
@soccerwagsgfo 11 ай бұрын
@@JRK2669 he's very wrong. In his small mind, sky sports can make as much money as they want, but players' salaries should be capped
@JRK2669
@JRK2669 11 ай бұрын
@Police Showdown He constantly complains about Sky, its like the number one thing he does.
@alastairbrewster4274
@alastairbrewster4274 11 ай бұрын
@Tom Stenson what are you not getting ?! The clubs chose to pay the wages in this never ending spiral , sky started it and the prem teams wanted to keep pace with Europe’s elite . The players are working class guys all from humble beginnings, this is anti working class BS from the arch capitalist , albeit a failed one , Simon Jordan. Failed club owner cos he made stupid decisions ! What’s not to get ?!
@user-gf1rx9rz8v
@user-gf1rx9rz8v 11 ай бұрын
Owners like Man City can easily sell reasonably priced tickets but because of ffp they’re unable to do it. FFP has done more to raise season ticket prices than anything else.
@face8451
@face8451 11 ай бұрын
In sweden we have viaplay and we can see every match ..its costs around 60 pounds a month
@soccerwagsgfo
@soccerwagsgfo 11 ай бұрын
Simon Jordan hates players
@JRK2669
@JRK2669 11 ай бұрын
Good, they are greedy and entitled
@soccerwagsgfo
@soccerwagsgfo 11 ай бұрын
@Tom Stenson. Why can't Sky take a pay cut, How much money does SKY MAKE FROM THE PREMIER LEAGUE EVERY YEAR FROM ADVERTISING, GAMBLING, AND SUBSCRIPTION FEES? Is there a cap on Sky's profits? Why do You only want the players to take a pay cut? Simon Jordan talks like a greedy employer who wants makes all the money and pays his employees peanuts
@motomoto8383
@motomoto8383 11 ай бұрын
@@soccerwagsgfo a lot of the sky money goes into clubs. The clubs then put this money INTO PLAYERS TRANSFERS AND WAGES.
@bradd__
@bradd__ 11 ай бұрын
Simon Jordan is spitting the truth but they dont wana hear him 😂😂😂😂
@BirdLives7
@BirdLives7 11 ай бұрын
Simon is targeting players like he always does..
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 11 ай бұрын
Top Lad Proper Clobber ✊💯 Facts
@topgazza
@topgazza 11 ай бұрын
I’ve long advocated a salary cap like in the US. Utter greed. Football has become unaffordable, despite the packed PL I do like Carlton Palmer
@DommyShirl
@DommyShirl 11 ай бұрын
My local pub won’t be paying for sky next year because it has gone from 7k to 10k and they simply can’t afford it.
@tg007ful
@tg007ful 11 ай бұрын
UK fans are most definately getting bent over the table...it's well known that across continental europe, via platforms like SportTV, Eleven, etc, there is no 3pm blackout on Premier League games and we pay a pitance by comparrison - also, you can use said subscription IN THE UK, legally as long as it's registered in a continental country, italy, spain, portugal etc
@Yob365
@Yob365 11 ай бұрын
Yall made fun of Florentino Perez and Allegri when they said football was going in an unsustainable direction. You know what one of the main key points of the Super League was ? Salary/wage caps!!!!!!
@A-A-Ron17
@A-A-Ron17 11 ай бұрын
Not enough discussion of the frustrating consumer experience the Brits have with multiple broadcasters requiring multiple subscriptions only to be able to watch a fraction of matches. Price is a function, yes, but subscriptions (and revenues) would most certainly increase if there were a single subscription and more seamless consumer experience to see ALL matches.
@IvanWizard-Karl
@IvanWizard-Karl 11 ай бұрын
Wage cap is direly needed and agents percentages should also be capped.
@midrangebrown
@midrangebrown 11 ай бұрын
I issue isn't particularly the price, the issue is we wana watch more games and generally; I'd assume.. people are willing to pay more... Aslong as there's more match options
@JackTheladd
@JackTheladd 11 ай бұрын
In Canada I get Fubo for $25.00 CAD per month. All prem games and re-watch options.
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