C70 without a doubt. That DGO sensor, soft and organic 4k raw , crazy dynamic range and built-in ND makes the whole package close to perfection imo
@rumbahd2 жыл бұрын
R5c
@Neopulse002 жыл бұрын
I think the same thing. That's why I'm here because it's still conflicting to me 😂
@Yupthereitism2 жыл бұрын
Screen sucks
@Desparter94 Жыл бұрын
With those questions you cano only speak for yourself. It depends what you are looking for. C70 excels at recording, no doubt. r5c is a less video, but a bit more photo and more portable than the c70.
@Mendoksen1 Жыл бұрын
Get ursa mini pro 12K for same price (in US)
@criticalpoint767211 ай бұрын
I can't believe we are in the era of "softening the image". It's like we turned full circle, going back to the early days of Canon DSLR mushy videos.
@jasonnowwhat50412 жыл бұрын
11:28…boy that c70 image is so much more beautiful to my eye. That DGO really seems to render such a pleasing look.
@richardwood88152 жыл бұрын
One minor difference I came across was in relation to Auto ISO: Both cameras have an auto ISO option, but with the C70 auto ISO is disabled if you're using CLOG2/CLOG3. The R5C still allows auto ISO when using CLOG3.
@ziemsoNjr Жыл бұрын
BRO, WHERE DO YOU CHANGE ISO TO AUTO ?! Never seen this option in my c70!
@J_HNP7 ай бұрын
Who uses auto ISO?!?
@prateek77282 жыл бұрын
I had an R6 and dabbled for months on the Canon C70 until the R5C came out, I tested the R5C for a day and C70, the DR is the shadows on C70 is unbelievably good and built in ND's can't be beat. I decided to keep my R6 and settle for C70 and couldn't be happier, can't say it's a perfect A/B combo but I barely use a multi cam set up and a dedicate camera for motions is incredible!
@alfredknodler540 Жыл бұрын
Hello, would you still recommend the R6 as a B-cam for the C70 nowadays?
@flo.motion2 жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks a lot for the comparison! I am a VFX Supervisor and mainly shoot greenscreen. So what I need is the least amount of compression or the best image possible which would be a 444 codec. Have you ever tried using those cameras for stuff like this and what would be your opinion on that? Thanks a lot and all the best!
@pr1sm552 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm completely mind blown by the R5C... as someone who comes from the 5D Mark II it is a huge step up but I've learned in advance before even purchasing it. The R5C is completely nuts for stills! I tried the 5D Mark IV and the Canon R6 extensively but it does NOT compare IMHO. I am currently using it for events, indoors, outdoors and even super fast motorsport action such as rallyes and track days. It just keeps up with everything, a monster. For video I can't really judge but I've used it in more than suboptimal conditions (very low light) and it blew me away! I'm using it as the one and only for video and photo with the 5D as backup not to always having to change the 70-200mm to the R5C. I've not ran into any issues with changing from photo to video and vice versa even when changing fast ist crucial to capture a moment in photo mode coming from video. If you get the hang of how long it takes you're always able to do it just in time. The one and only issue I have with the R5C is that the batteries in video just drains so quick... if you have a drink and forget to turn it off it already took off a bar from the battery. Also pretty annoying is that the battery, even when just charged, seems to show a missing bar in no time. Even with the BGR10 grip. I run 4 original batteries and I've come to the conclusion that if you want a full day or say 2 full event days with a mix of photo and video you'd need minimum 6 and at best 8 batteries in total. Because charging these things on a car charger (12v -> 220v outlet) takes ages. And to all new R5C users that might not know like I did: DO NOOOOOOT! I repeate do NOT press ----> Initialize Media
@peterenables714 Жыл бұрын
can buy those buy pack that gives 1kwh of power with 220V outlet to let you charge quickly.
@trashbag81247 ай бұрын
Is the initialize media a button that you press on the body or is it a setting in the menu?
@pr1sm557 ай бұрын
Setting in the menu. You click it, then select a card and then it shows "Initialize?" Press it, boom, deleted(formatted)!@@trashbag8124
@pr1sm557 ай бұрын
Yeah, technically you could buy the ECOFLOW River 2 for example and charge without running the car with engine on. But since you are still using the original Canon single port battery charger it still takes forever. Best thing is really to get a battery dummy like the SMALLRIG D-Tap to LP-E6NH with the Smallrig part number 4252. It does not support 8K 60p though and sometimes shows empty or low battery when running it with a V-Mount 99wh battery. Weird.@@peterenables714
@salvamando12 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, as always! I have the C70 for video and I bought the R5 when it first came out and use only for photos and some videos on a pinch. The R5C looks wonderful and if I did not already have the R5 I probably (?) would have gotten it, but in the end I have zero desire for it now since I have most of the bases covered. CHeers!
@savillecreations8046 Жыл бұрын
After watching this, I’m very glad I have both cameras. Cheers.
@cmiller72992 жыл бұрын
The cinema OS was 100% designed assuming 14v+ batteries where battery efficiency was of little concern. Contrast that to the photo dev team, who had to squeeze as much possible out of smaller batteries. This is why the R5C battery life is trash in video and pretty decent in stills. Canon was dumb not to just make one optimized OS for the platform. The R5C needs to have video features put back into the photo mode to. At least give us the option to shoot video in the mode with the superior battery life and AF. I'd buy it then.
@rickyang9930 Жыл бұрын
Thats why the system tell me battery is dead in the cinema OS and it still has a lot of storage while switch back to photo os
@bramweer61172 жыл бұрын
Where i was, as a hybrid shooter, set on the R5C, I’m starting to consider to go for the C70 and buy an R5 next to it for stills…
@Malick3332 жыл бұрын
R5C owner. Honestly, if you need amazing stills and video in one body, R5c is the way to go. I just finished a short film, and don’t be concerned about battery life. Using a smaller power bank (mounted discretely or in your pocket or on your belt) will resolve all long term shooting. Get two PD banks, or a bigger one, as needed. Gerald Undone has also showed us how to squeeze more dynamic range out, which is significantly better than the R5. Besides the image, my favorite thing about the R5c is how small of a form factor you can go when needing to be discrete. You just can’t do this with the C70. Then I can bulk the R5c up when needed too with grips and a boom and rails and whatever.
@jessejayphotography2 жыл бұрын
I have a R5C as well. Haven’t used in on anything larger but I love it! The DR jump from R5 is definitely there and things like false color and waveform are killer in a small package. I have RF lenses so C70 with RF just felt wrong. Hopefully we see a C70 with a FF DGO in the future. Would be my dream camera.
@Yupthereitism2 жыл бұрын
Dumb logic
@AlexCameron-Depiqd2 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! I genuinely think there's an argument for picking up both of these cameras and imagine they'd probably work well together in terms of A/B camera setups. It's a real quandry as just as I think I'm set on on over the other, I remember that one feature that would make me lean more the other way! This video definitely helped though.
@ThisisnotTwitterАй бұрын
The lack of SDI in the C70 is so frustrating it cripples it from so much professional use when it would have cost so little extra. Even if they had skipped the HDMI altogether.
@NasserTone Жыл бұрын
Hello one of the most amazing reviews! Kindly could you tell me what lens was used in the walking scene 11:41?
@tonymckeage1028 Жыл бұрын
Great Video, as a very new Canon R5 C owner! I'm feeling much more comfortable with my choice, I'm a Photographer with a youtube channel, I am yet to master the video side of the camera but i love the still images! thanks for sharing
@jeffreyfleming40162 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent side by side comparison; It is quite useful. As a videographer, the camera that I would choose would have to be the R5C. The R5C’s superior low light performance, sharper image, 8k sensor, and down sampled 4K image makes the R5C an absolute must have in my opinion.
@SuperSuperka2 жыл бұрын
R5C can be superior in low-light with the same settings, but FF and Super35 has never similar settings and never have same lens.
@jonathanhamilton23082 жыл бұрын
Excellent and super thorough comparison, many thanks CVP
@WorldOtakuChannel2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your review. I have both C70 and R5 C. If I can only have one, I have a C70 without hesitation. Because I also have R5.
@mikaelsilkeberg97342 жыл бұрын
just got the kolari 1/4 mist 3 nd and 1/4 mist 6 nd that you put in front of the sensor, very interesting approach to solv the issue with eos r5c not having a built in ND filter...
@paulengle57845 ай бұрын
Liked and subscribed. These videos are super informative.
@thidnascimento2 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video! The more I research, the more I come to the conclusion that a hybrid camera will never be as good as a dedicated video camera. For the convenience of the best battery and ND filters, but above all for the available file format, I would really choose the C70 and carry an R7 in my bag for stills
@frankhu86922 жыл бұрын
Agree, i shoot rigged up hybrid cam for a while and I'm tired of its all workarounds. It is fine, it's just u won't find yourself shooting photos when you're seriously making videos, that made the hybrid cameras an affordable rather than better option for me
@enpegee2 жыл бұрын
it depends what type video you make. have you ever use red or arri camera? there is no such "convenience" to use those camera
@JonPais2 жыл бұрын
@@enpegee You’re right: when working with a production camera, you’ve generally got a hundred dooodads hanging off of it and a huge crew. 😅
@johnnysimon76962 жыл бұрын
Having an external battery and a lens adaptor with ND filter on the r5c actually works better to balance my rig tbh.. It's a very easy solution... Plus now I can use the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8f on it to fantastic results. Highly recommend
@frankhu86922 жыл бұрын
@@johnnysimon7696 if u truly tried out c70 you will realize how integrated and effecient it is compared to hybrid cameras, your hybrid cannot live without a rig, but a c70+lense can basically do anything, unless it is an arri, I don't think word around tricks and rigging is worth the time you waste
@JHJOwen2 жыл бұрын
Biggest problem for me is the lack of CFExpress card inputs on the C70. I just can’t imagine going back to using SD cards. Current EOS R5 user.
@tomjkelly2 жыл бұрын
I bought both! The C70 is the workhorse and the R5C is the B cam and gimbal cam. They work well together as they share the same colour profiles so easy to match. Using C70 as an A cam for interviews is good because the slightly softer image works well for close ups of faces and its better camera to run audio while the R5C is great on a wider moving shot to the side. Im also looking forward to using it as a stills camera in my spare time.
@ricr.46692 жыл бұрын
I got the r5c and sold it after 3 weeks. battery is a joke, it's a bad engineering decision.
@joelmatngandu2 жыл бұрын
It's always a pleasure to watch your videos
@BryanBenoitPhoto2 жыл бұрын
Good detailed summary of both
@onlysublime2 жыл бұрын
built-in NDs are fantastic and I wish the R5C had it. However, I use Kolari's magnetic ND filters. They actually go inside the camera and work with RP, R6, R5 and R5C (and I think R). So they go in-between the lens and the camera. There's no vignetting because they're bigger than the sensor. And you can swap lenses while leaving the filter in-place. I love these filters! I thought about getting the Canon drop-in filter system but I'm moving away from EF lenses. In fact, with my Kolari, since they fit between the camera and the lens, I can use my EF lenses (via my EF/RF adapter for with control ring) or my RF glass.
@awakemyglory Жыл бұрын
Hi, could you let me know where you ordered those? They sound perfect!
@onlysublime Жыл бұрын
@@awakemyglory search for kolari vision
@nycvideoauditions2 жыл бұрын
This was so helpful. THANK YOU.
@pbfilms63562 жыл бұрын
Great review as always! Thanks! I think the choice is a fairly easy one...if you shoot ONLY video, the C70 is a much better choice. If you need to shoot photos, than the R5C is the obvious choice. I shoot both so the R5C is pretty close to the perfect camera.
@royal_films2 жыл бұрын
This is seriously the best comparsion between both cameras online. Great job CVP!!
@CVPTV2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Jake
@jordanfish2 жыл бұрын
Another advantage of the R5C is that rather than shooting in portrait orientation you can get a vertical 4k crop out of the 8k frame!
@NaikMedia4 ай бұрын
Something that a lot of videos never cover when comparing the C70 to anything else is the build quality. It is not very good. Aspects of the camera feel flimsy, particularly the screen, others break easily (I had to send mine back to Canon twice to get repaired). At first they said it had some weather-sealing, but that wasn't accurate (and has since been removed from their marketing); even a bit of rain will brick your camera. The C70 is the only camera in the Canon cinema lineup that isn't built like a rugged workhorse, and that includes the R5 C. However, a camera with this level of quality at this price has to have a compromise, so I commend Canon for giving users the option. I'd liken it to an F1 car: the performance is unbeatable, but it is very delicate.
@andrew_maccoll2 жыл бұрын
Always great. Thanks for the work put in on this one. I really enjoyed it.
@Neopulse002 жыл бұрын
16:05 - The slightly slower AF on the C70 could be remedied with a firmware update I'm quite certain.
@GabrielScindian Жыл бұрын
Canon should allow Open Gate recording up to 30p on the R5C
@bp-blackshark2 жыл бұрын
It would drive me nuts, if i would have to assemble the rig to a hybrid camera again and again, if i would have to switch a lot between video and photo tasks. I will always grab a dedicated video camera for videos, and a photo camera for photos...because they are built for exactly that task. A dedicated video camera simply have buttons and functions, even a hybrid camera, like the R5 C doesn´t have. And with that visible rolling shutter problem, both cameras have, i would even be happy with a Canon XF605, where i wouldn`t need any cage or additional viewfinder and so on, which would turn the small camerabody into an head from an moose with moose antlers. I love run and gun ready cameras...and the formfactor both worlds have (photo and video).
@caseybachmeyer Жыл бұрын
Super Video! Thanks a lot! What would you say how big is the difference between these two cameras in terms of dr and shadow/highlight recovery? Very big or nearly not visible? Thanks a lot!
@SebastianCristanchoYT2 жыл бұрын
Great video bro I love this channel
@AndreiSam Жыл бұрын
For traveling the smaller/lighter cam is the best! :) I grabbed R5C and flew to Kauai, Hawaii to test it! See results on my channel...
@AllThingsFilm1 Жыл бұрын
As of now, the C70 is $700 USD more than the R5C in the States. I am interested in both. Though as a filmmaker, I do lean towards the C70 with the built in ND filters. The only thing holding me back is that Canon will not allow 3rd party lens development for the RF mount. Yes, I can use an adapter. But, I would prefer the native lens mount. And 3rd party choices is the best way to make the decision more affordable.
@SeanMiller3182 жыл бұрын
Great review.
@GriffinConway2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison Jake.
@chronocross852 жыл бұрын
I wanted to get the C70 but that LCD screen on it is really weak. Feels a cheap toy and you can easily break it.
@internetpasanga3581 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm a short filmmaker.. I'm using canon 850d for my films. Now, i plan to upgrade my camera.. which one would be better.. Canon C70 or Canon R5c?
@WupperVideo8 ай бұрын
But why do both not have a SDI output? That’s a crucial thing for many filmmakers.
@honduzuelatv24362 жыл бұрын
Great video! I love my c70! The only thing I don’t like about it’s the magenta tint when I convert the clog 2 to rec709
@CinemaSteve2 жыл бұрын
Are you using Canon’s technical LUT? I stopped using it because of that and have used a variety of other technical LUT’s that look better imo. The main one being Buttery LUT’s C70 LUT’s. Sound It Out Films has a good video on here about the difference between C70 LUT’s as well!
@YOUAREMYKIN2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for such detailed video! Question, you showed the Angelbird 512GB AV PRO CFexpress 2.0 Type B card, does this card work with the R5Cs highest RAW bitrates? Thank you.
@lightningblender2 жыл бұрын
C70 for video only shooters. R5C for those that need long recording times or use it in hot climates and also produce a lot of images R5 for wildlife and most others as 8K and animal eye detect in video is a beast. You will rarely record for more than 20min in most cases anyway. (Me)
@Miguel_Molina2 жыл бұрын
what about the R3?
@lightningblender2 жыл бұрын
@@Miguel_Molina Different price category, R5 & R5C & C70 are quite close. R3 is +1k at least (on top of C70, which already is the most expensive out of the three) The R3 is nice, stacked and all, it's similar to the R5 in AF but 8K vs 6K RAW is quite some difference, 33% additional digital zoom while still delivering 4K can be a deal breaker. What the R3 has above the R5s is a MUCH bigger battery and 60p RAW without external PD. For wildlife a fully sealed camera is important so my choice would be: If you've got cash to throw around: R3 and the wide RF-super-tele. Then you can get amazing battery life and fill the frame. If you're on a "budget", the R5 is the next candidate. For the rest, see above.
@lightningblender Жыл бұрын
As an addendum: Now with firmware 1.6, which allows for a high shutoff temperature, the topic shifted even more in the R5s favour for animal image acquisition. The animal eye detect is absolutely awesome.
@YourProEntertainment2 жыл бұрын
I'm not really interested in either of these cameras since I'm so invested in Sony alpha line, but I find these tech videos rather soothing, especially on a friday night.
@aronross459 Жыл бұрын
Which ND filter would you suggest for the R5C? As this is a must with this camera I'd like to get it right. Using RF L lenses all mostly at 82mm thread apart from the 70-200 at 77mm.
@Guironey Жыл бұрын
thxxxxx
@TwoGreedyMonsters2 жыл бұрын
I hope Canon put Clog 2 into the R5c in a future firmware update.
@cnex101 Жыл бұрын
Based on all of the things I've seen I would probably choose the Canon C70 with a few accessories. It just seems like a better option for pure video people.
@johnger8503052 жыл бұрын
For battery alone, REAL canon cinema lines really stand out from R5C, which is basically a modified R5.
@siamavideoproduction2 жыл бұрын
C 70 ✌🏻
@Omgiamsotriggered Жыл бұрын
C70. Its just a better overall video camera, DGO sensor, built in ND filters... U dont really need 8k cuz with a good lense it doesnt really make that much of a difference, its maybe at best marginal 3-4% difference.
@paulrox1772 жыл бұрын
It seems like the C70 is better for having internal peripherals, but the R5C is better for overall image quality. The R5C is definitely much more future proof. 5 years from now filming in 8k will be more relevant.
@castielvargastv793111 ай бұрын
R5 has less dynamic range which is the most important thing if it comes to filming and image quality. Filming in 8 k will be never relevant. People buy 1080 screens in 2023 , not even 4k as the files are just to big. A movie can have 20-30 gb in 4k, no one wants this and 8k is 4 times larger..
@paulrox17711 ай бұрын
@@castielvargastv7931 Asumming you meant R5C, you can actually get pretty close to the same dynamic range as the C70 in RAW. 8k will be more relevant in the future because it gives you the ability to crop in without losing as much image quality. Not necessarily because everyone with have 8k screens. Also 8k files sizes are big now, but its possible new codex's will compress footage more without sacrificing too much image quality, thus having smaller file sizes.
@AndrewKuttor2 жыл бұрын
I own the c70 and R3. And am on the hunt for a smaller run-n-gun. Have the capabilities to get the R5C, Komodo, and FX3. Decided on the FX3. Weird choice maybe. But in my eyes it would fly where I need it to in situations then other two are too big for better. And a much better run-n-gun cam
@tvm22092 жыл бұрын
and your FX3 was just blessed with a juicy firmware update..
@AndrewKuttor2 жыл бұрын
@@tvm2209 I knew it was coming. I do a lot of firmware analysis. Being a developer. Following camera updates is an obsession for me. And I won’t lie. I bet on the pony. And the pony won. But the way I saw it is Sony would have been stupid not doing it. For one. They give these little tiny updates to their alpha line. They give a big update to the fx6. Purposely skipping the fx3. They have competition from the gh6 and R5C. Sony needs to do something. And it was a great time without pissing off the a7s3 owners too much because they just gave them a tiny little morsel. Smart. Really smart.
@AndrewKuttor2 жыл бұрын
On top of that, they did it pretty smartly. Use Cine EI to separate the two. The a7s3 owners can’t argue why their camera isn’t getting this huge menu overhaul. Custom luts etc. that’s a pure cinema thing. On top of that, I now foresee a v2.1, v2.2, v3.0 update coming down the pipe to finish off the fx3. Waveform, shutter angle, etc. It will come.
@asafblasbergvideographer2 жыл бұрын
It looks soft. No question about it. All the Canon cameras have this issue. Look at the DVX200 4K Panasonic Camera from 2015 and all the LUMIX GH5 cameras and you’ll see how razor sharp the images are.
@m77ast2 ай бұрын
Dude is that even a question with that tiny sensor in the C70
@johnclay76442 жыл бұрын
informative content.
@DjFinestWorldWide Жыл бұрын
Great Video
@blnksktch2 жыл бұрын
I just (yesterday) decided on an r3 after going through my less detailed version of this list. Realistically a c300, c500 or even a c200 is a far better option as an A-cam and the r3 is a far better b/c cam for photo/video. You will eventually want IBIS if you shoot photos or handhold the camera for a quick shot. You know - b cam stuff! I also think if you shoot RAW (which you really should in 2022) both the c70 and r5c are somewhat iffy. I don't trust the c70's SD card solution and compression (although nobody's complaining about it yet) and I also don't want the r5c's 8k RAW solution. For me, r3 seems like the best bet. Except for, you know, shutter angle and waveform all the obvious headaches of it not actually being a video camera.
@frankhu86922 жыл бұрын
once I shoot for a while, I'm tired to use hybrid cameras, it's only viable if u can't afford a c70 or c500
@cgthevision89582 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you trust sd’s? I shoot raw on the c70 quite often and have yet to have a hiccup.
@blnksktch2 жыл бұрын
@@cgthevision8958 happy to hear it. Bitrate on the c70 is waaaaay lower than on the other cameras. It’s amazing what they’ve pulled off.
@GDoggProductions2 жыл бұрын
Great video jake 👏👏👏 slightly off topic but what's your thoughts on smartphone video quality ( Xperia 1 IV for example ) is it coming to a point that having something as large as a c70 etc, will be a thing of the past with smartphones being able to shoot amazing quality ? or am I missing a few key elements as to how a c70 for example beats a powerful smartphone like the Xperia 1 IV
@vlcheish2 жыл бұрын
all adult VR productions are using the R5C because of the 5.2mm RF lens.
@bsant72 жыл бұрын
So, no cLog2 on R5c huh?
@csound552 жыл бұрын
R5 C raw converts to clog 2 in Resolve
@loicisliker12 жыл бұрын
What brand is the VND on the lens you guys use?
@aov_james2 жыл бұрын
knowing what Canon has already made it happen in the past, I could only wish for more from them.. haha maybe I'd want perfect hybrid video camera like c70 but with added features that are frequently asked. I'd want slighting more resolution around 6K would be sweet spot, RAW capability, clog2, full frame, electronic internal ND, SDI, timdcode, box shape form factor, gimbal friendly, more AF options such as adding stills AF while keeping cinema lineup AF. Better codec to work smoothly in both windows and mac world. I'm probably missing something, but I know for sure Canon is very capable of making such thing. Please stop the cripple hammer :(
@alex-stone2 жыл бұрын
You're right, Canon are capable of making such a thing. It's called the C500mkII.
@Josh_Sattin2 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison! Such a tough choice between these two cameras.
@sickhcivc2 жыл бұрын
I want an r5c as a bcam to my c300
@rousedvideo3380 Жыл бұрын
Without watching this video I can say you need to buy c70 because it better :) And now I'm staring to watch :D good video Thanks
@dsdddsd4543we2 жыл бұрын
Incredible cameras. I'm just hoping Canon moves to Full Size HDMI going forward with the Mark II versions of their RF cameras.
@GoldenTeeTV2 жыл бұрын
First of all i agree and hate the micro and mini HDMI that canon loves to include. But don't se it happening. Even with their XF camcorders their pro line they are using mini HDMI. i don't get it. Full HDMI or go home. the others break too easily. I mean even Sony on their still cameras are going full hdmi. I've had to send in a XF400 and a R5 now due to hdmi issues where the port has broke.
@alzibaba Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I'd love to get an R5C but the only way I can see it happening is by getting a mini HDMI to full size HDMI adapter and locking it to the body, never ever to be removed 😅 I've had too many of those things give out, sometimes mid shoot.
@NickPerkiss2 жыл бұрын
Every time i see this b-roll i want to know these pumps are called @2:08.
@rdmgrooves38662 жыл бұрын
I have a friend with the same question and what we does ? Simple, buy the two’s 🔥😂
@davida5296 Жыл бұрын
i believe that clog 2 is now available on the r5c?
@TheTozotube2 жыл бұрын
I really want an R5C to retire my BMPCC6K and Canon 80D. I find myself not creating nearly as much art anymore simply because taking out the BMPCC is a huge hassle, and my 80D is just outdated. I would much rather have something that can take pictures and video, however I am largely primarily a filmmaker. Dynamic range is super important... and that blackmagic color is just out of this world. Do you think I can get similar dynamic range from the R5C in raw recording as I do with the BMPCC? I really do want to be able to make very moody looking films with the R5C. I love sharpness as well, so I would likely utilize 8k all the time. Really, my only concern is dynamic range. Worried about sacrificing that... Your test footage looks good, but I do wonder how much those colors can be brought out. hmmm. Also, how the heck do you get an R5C?! They are out of stock everywhere!!!
@CinemaSteve2 жыл бұрын
I'd say you won't notice a difference if you get an R5C. It's so damn versatile and there are ways to squeeze out more DR as well. I think Gerald Undone has a video about it. As much as I loved my BMPCC6K, I HATED taking it anywhere and shooting. It was such a pain in my ass. I ended up with a C70 and I will never go back to BMD. Build quality alone is massive in Canon's favor, plus with all the compression of KZfaq and Instagram, DR for me matters less. Things that look good on your end might get crushed with artifacts on upload anyway. And it's not like the R5C's DR is bad either. I would say that you'll be much more motivated to even start creating again just because of how much easier it is with the R5C over the BMPCC6K. And that is the biggest factor for me.
@TheTozotube2 жыл бұрын
@@CinemaSteve dude, thank you for this reply. Im so glad i am not alone in this and someone understands the feeling. As long as the r5c footage can still be color graded to look dramatic and vibrant, im happy with it. Cant wait to get my hands on the R5C. Truly a dream camera for me!
@CinemaSteve2 жыл бұрын
@@TheTozotube and just knowing how RAW works on my C70 and how my grades turn out when shooting C-Log 2, I bet the R5C will look amazing too since it’s all the same. Glad I could help encourage ya!
@awakemyglory Жыл бұрын
@@TheTozotube Could you let me know if you ended up switching to the R5C? I do both video and photo, so I am debating 1) BMPCC6K Pro + used 5DS for high resolution studio and portrait work, vs 2) the R5C. Thoughts? I'm also hoping that @CVP will take pity on me and reply! :)
@TheTozotube Жыл бұрын
@@awakemyglory i did switch and i love the R5C. Its a great hybrid. I honestly have a lot of work to do to get used to the thing and get good with it, but its an amazing camera. I have a few issues with it compared to the bmpcc, for example the noise. The noise at 800iso is atrocious. Idk what im doing wrong. Few people talk about the issue. There’s just ridiculous amounts of noise in the shadows. Ppl say to overexpose and bring it down in post to fix it and i think it does help a bit but its stupid i have to overexpose.
@jamescook5931 Жыл бұрын
What battery did you use to shoot all day on the r5c?
@navarrog2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys! What luts on the last node do you use for canon? Cheers!
@luisserna2395 Жыл бұрын
Please turn on the subtitles. Thank you!
@luisserna2395 Жыл бұрын
Please! : ))
@spotlite_films9 ай бұрын
missing dual native iso on c70 is the only downside
@metallurgico2 жыл бұрын
imagine to spend over 5000£ to record vertical videos for kids' smartphones
@internetpasanga35812 жыл бұрын
Can we use efs lens on r5c? got any draw back?
@baekmedier2 жыл бұрын
The question gets even harder if you get the speedbooster for the C70 and the Canon ND adaptor and the XLR adaptor for the R5C 😅 Then both have ND behind the lens, use EF lenses, has a full frame look… Good advice get the batterygrip for the R5C 🤣 Så hard to choose, so i bought them both. 🙈 But i do miss having the XF-AVC in 4K 120 in the C70. Wich the R5c have.
@digital_pictures2 жыл бұрын
Canon did a great job here. But should i wait for BMDPCC 6K Pro successor ?
@CinemaSteve2 жыл бұрын
Depends on what you need! If you need a very reliable camera that isn’t only a rigged out tripod camera then get a C70. Build quality is 10x better than any product BMD has put out or will put out (I’ve owned quite a few BMD cinema cameras recently as well as a C70 currently). If you want good image quality in a camera that will only be rigged as a stable tripod camera and never for moving work then get the BMD. C70 does everything well while BMD PC6K do 1 thing really well.
@digital_pictures2 жыл бұрын
@@CinemaSteve totally agree about building poor quality. Of course, BMD is a manual transmission car. As a running gun shooter, C70 is better. But still amazed by BMD color science. Can’t imagine if we can have : BMD color, canon autofocus, Panasonic stabilization, Sony low light, beat Komodo easily.
@CinemaSteve2 жыл бұрын
@@digital_pictures yeah that’d be a killer combo! I love the BMPCC 6K color but the battery life and need to rig it constantly was the worst. I know the Pro improved on the battery but the BP-A30 and A60 batteries from Canon for the C70 are insane. Plus we had multiple dead pixels on both of our BMPCC 6K’s and on our Ursa Mini Pro multiple buttons and dials broke and fell off leaving us with tiny metal knobs and switches which sucked. You definitely pay for quality.
@digital_pictures2 жыл бұрын
@@CinemaSteve of course, running gun shooter and cinematographer are two categories completely different. BMD is just a crash cam. Personally, chunky design is the worst thing BMD did. If URSA 12k had a better design, I would buy right of the way.
@CinemaSteve2 жыл бұрын
@@digital_pictures BMD actually isn’t a great crash cam. Crash cam’s have to be somewhat durable and everything BMD puts out isn’t. That’s what makes the Komodo the best crash cam. The BMPCC6K is an amazing indie cinematographer A and B cam. I’ve seen many of my DP friends run them on set fully rigged as I used to do. They put out insanely good color and all you need is a V mount on the back of your rails and a follow focus to make it a real competitive cinema camera for a fraction of the price of any cinema camera.
@sameerhejen6 ай бұрын
Photo and video r5c better
@user-bu3xx9xk1z Жыл бұрын
What is the XLR 2-channel adapter at 13:55?
@CVPTV Жыл бұрын
cvp.com/product/wooden_camera_144100_redone-abox
@Sixpei2 жыл бұрын
9:25 what is the viewfinder used?
@CVPTV2 жыл бұрын
This is the one - cvp.com/product/z-cam-ev101-electronic-viewfinder
@jonathandiaz4997 Жыл бұрын
11 months ago
@diproduction7799 Жыл бұрын
C70 can take stills)
@tor29192 жыл бұрын
The C70 image looks far better.
@ethanmitchell77532 жыл бұрын
Neither
@EugeneMaynard2 жыл бұрын
👍🏾🙏🏾
@corneliustitiu8739 Жыл бұрын
🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
@danielflavin42162 жыл бұрын
Sigh.. "c90" with c500 mk2 FF sensor, 1 full sized xlr, job done
@ChrisParayno Жыл бұрын
Over priced for both canon as always
@ishanr86972 жыл бұрын
Should I buy those? No.
@giganadiradze6 ай бұрын
there is not even 1 good video about r5c stills
@m0nztam0nk2 жыл бұрын
i can immediately tell the crushed blacks on basically all r5c footage...unless you REALLY need 8k, for video the c70 is just absolutely wayyy better