Like a convenience fee.

I saw a sign at a bank once: "In order to serve you better we are changing our operating hours" They decided to close at 3, instead of 5 to serve people better.

Exactly, the same as the two worst words and downfall for any product... "new and improved"... usually means the exact opposite.

Vox Day sardonically says what they call it is "Improving your user experience" which it NEVER does!

I downgraded to Win11 i hated it and went back to Win10 in no time

@@jamescicadaTook me 2 years for me to experience issues, and I upgraded back to Windows 10 like 3 weeks ago.

at work we got our office lady new computer and windows 11 was unusable for 60 years old person so we just copied the c partition from old computer to the new one along with windows 10 and disabled tpm in bios. it activated, retain all the programs and certyficates...and the only thing that had to be reactivated was office and we have happy office lady. but it should not be this hard to get in or out of the old windows ever since windows 8 we lost ability to roll back intarface to older version , you could use windows 95 in program mannager shell, xp up to 7 with clasic win 9x style windows and task bar last 10 years microsoft was fightig the consumers gving and taking stuff in product we paid for

With Microsoft it´s ever second released OS lately. Win 98 = ok, Win ME = worst ever. Windows XP = ok, Windows Vista = really bad. Win 7 = GREAT, Win 8 = even worst than worst ever, no customer wanted this. Win 10 = not ok, but better than the disaster Win 8. Win 11 = not what the customers wants at all.

MS proves this every release !

I inherited a custom build 5 years ago with win 10 and it said I wasn't qualified for win 11 on that machine

"upgraded " Next year you can upgrade to Linux. Yay.

@@bakedbean37 Not if you use Win 10 ltsc LMAO

I took a bigger upgrade and went to 7 which I will dualboot with Linux Mint later.

@@fexploder3281 That's what I've done. Mint for every day and Win7 for my music software that doesn't need internet.

yea Windows 11 is trash just need to forget about that Croplito trash!!!!

They're improving nothing I'm using windows 10 for (that couldn't be fixed in w10), while removing the one thing I'm required to use Windows for (my vr headsets). Plus, I've installed w3.11, w95, w98, XP probably 100 times without exaggeration. I'm an expert at that shit, just don't want to have to do it anymore. Now it's: google this, work around that, sign in to the next thing, lose feature, get used to bullshit, get useless features down my throat

I disagree, I been using Windows since XP, and I find Windows 11 more sleek and cleaner in design then previous Windows. A better OS for gaming and productivity. Overall backend functionality is still the same, but is to be expected for compatibility reasons. Nostalgic poisoning is clouding your judgement, I had the same issue with Windows 7 and 10.

hey , how about that windows 12 !

No, they changed the plot to Google Lite, working to steal as much of our information as possible to sell it to the data brokers . They make more that way than selling WIndows at the point and just expanding on what they started with 10. Getting close to just saying the hell with it and go Linux all of the way. Probably once they kill 10. Windows 7 really was their apex.

@@ncg8224 lmfaooooooooooooooooooo found the MS employee

Then don't use it simple.

@@JustMyFish Unless of course Microsoft happens to make a "mistake" where it remains Turned-On, despite the user having turned it off... "Oopsie, our bad!"

Same

​​@@JustMyFish They have the right to just turn it on later in an update. Just because you dont care about privacy doesnt mean other shouldnt.

what do i do.... how do i go back to win ten after six months... i paid for win ten years ago... THEY UPGRADED ME 😭😭

I use Linux Mint, pop OS, Fedora, and Zorin, why would I need MS Winblows.

Update: you cannot downgrade to Windows 10 after 10 days, you must do a fresh install. One more hurdle. I bought a 500gb SSD and installed Linux, Nobara, a distro of Fedora. I didn’t even have to touch a terminal window to get Steam running and “windows only” games playing. Good bye Microsoft!

That is all bull crap

@@JustMyFish I settled on Ubuntu and installed the KDE desktop. So many options if you want them. It’s great just out of the box also. Running all my steam games so far. Switched to Brave browser also on all my computers including at work. Goodbye Microsoft and Google. I will keep windows on a separate drive but will boot to when absolutely necessary.

Start transitioning to Linux now. The sooner you start the less disruptive experience you have when the push comes to shove.

The good news is that the once commercial-only Extended Security Updates package is going to be offered to consumers for the first time so people have the option of paying to keep their Windows 10 PCs secure as late as 2028.

I'm there already!

As long as you're not using the internet on those Windows systems 😰

@@MangoPanic 10 and Linux yes. 7? No way! I load everything on it with a usb drive.

I would prefer 7. But... Unfortunately, Steam doesn't work on it anymore.:(

@@CuteNekoHibiki True. You could try running tiny 11.

My thoughts exactly - starting to research Chromebook

If IT vegans will not use this to increase their marketshare they would be stupid.

@@paosceptic Chrome OS is underated. Its really not that awful. I just wish it did more stuff.

To be sincere, unless you have some very specific PAID software that uses older versions of Net Framework to be activated (Making it impossible to activate them on Linux), Linux nowadays (Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, etc), are incredibly easy to use. With the exception of Power Users of the system, that still keep making tutorials on how to use everything on a command prompt using sudo commands, the entire system works like Windows, but even better because it's possible to do anything you want with it, you can install themes that changes the entire system, you can have a system that looks like Windows 7 or any other windows and do it your way, and it's fast, very well made and receives updates constantly. And thanks to Steam efforts to make Steam Deck a thing, 95% of the Steam Library runs on Linux by using their own emulator on the system, so you have no need to do anything but update your drivers if needed. The sole reason I'm on Windows is LITERALLY the lack of ways of activating Scrivener there right now, and I'll keep trying on my laptop until I can do it. Once I do, I'll leave windows 11 on my PC too.

@@jsnotlout3312 that is a hilarious comment.

10 > 7 > XP > 2000

@@Paultimate7 literally

XP was.

@@Revkor ok, i can agree with that as we are on same side. Regards fellow Windows user.

I feel the Chromebook interface was a design choice to dumb down the users further

For "advanced" options one user needs to know they exist. For the vast majority of users they are not needed. I have seen people (probably 90 percent of them) who don't disable anything. Default is something they are happy with. when their computer starts and for them this is OK. They only need more powerful components to beat the delays.

looks much less unfinished than W10 though....

@@TazzSmk It does not look, it is.

Exactly but unfortunately it won't happen. 😥

@@carminator12 I know 😔

I love me an old e-waste Linux Box.

​@@carminator12Except if they get resold or given away I could easily turn those "e-waste" machines into Linux machines (this was typed on a Dell Latitude e6410 I got from a second hand shop for $10 AUD)

I'd bet less than 1% of them will end up as Linux machines. But how many people will just keep running Windows 10 without Security Updates? A lot. Almost NOBODY who isn't in to computers even knows about this problem. I'm sure Windows will give them a pop-up next year. And they'll be like, what? And probably most can't afford to junk their PC, or won't be willing to. Heck, they'll probably think "I've got anti-virus so I'm covered."

Adobe did similar with Acrobat and filling documents. The extra step is counterproductive, but counterproductive is apparently next level design.

Regular user almost never uses the extra options or startup customization.

Remove tpm , secure boot one drive, bit locker, recall and you could have a good OS and a ms account and get rid of edge browser ! there i fixed windows 11 for you

Microsoft said Recall will not be turned on by default, and users can limit which snapshots the feature will collect by specifying the applications or websites in which their activity should not be recorded.

​@@Feuer-ks3rrsure, buddy 🙄

@@Feuer-ks3rr you have done well, go ahead and cash the check

@Feuer-ks3rr "Microsoft said" 🤣🤣🤣

The restrictions/limitations and mobile UI made me really dislike 11.

Same here

What did you hate about it? It's essentially the same as 10 with a new taskbar and start menu.

@@GrigRPAnd, like, it isn't enough? I don't remember any Windows with worse customization than 11. And customization is super important for workflow. For instance, I always, since Windows 9x, used taskbar vertically, on the right side of the screen. It is a matter of adaptation, a long one. Do I enjoy it? Not a single bit. Does the taskbar frozen at the bottom bring some new capabilities compared to Windows 10? It doesn't.

@@GrigRP The ugly ui/start menu, I don't think it's as user friendly, and the ever growing list of requirements that come with every other update. To me, windows 10 is just easier to use, and it runs better on my equipment.

problem is, we don't have the software. Most games run natively only on Windows! That is what's keeping us on Windows, legacy software, that doesn't have alternatives, particularly games! In my library, there are like four games that run natively on Linux. A good chunk of them can be run through Wine, but what about well over half of them?

@@looseycanon Yeah, it's a catch 22, most people use A, companies write games for A, if enough users switch to B they would write them for B, but that will not happen because most people use A and see no reason to use B, Microsoft seems to want to change that with copilot.

@@looseycanon have you heard of proton mate, it’s more than just wine. I don’t care if a game runs through proton or natively, if it runs it runs. My experience with old games has been better than on windows.

@@roccociccone597 Something to test out then, thx.

11 IoT LTSC doesn't have the TPM requirement, but it does require to log in to an M$ account. Annoying they just can't let us use Windows 11 LTSC as we want, no accounts. It's not even can't, they won't allow.

No, 7 makes sense. 10 just makes 8 bearable.

Windows 11 be like: "I am altering the requeriments, pray i dont alter it any further"

​@@arcis5538 But then two weeks later it in fact alters it yet again. It would be funny if I was joking. However..

@@PhilipMarcYT There is no LTSC version of Windows 11, dont confuse GAC IoT Enterprise with LTSC Enterprise.

When Microsoft said Win10 was going to be the last Windows, I literally rolled my eyes and and said out loud "Yeah. Suuurrreeee it is."

Seems like every new version of windows we say that - myself included - then I look at my software and try and find a replacement install linux on an old hd fumble around for a few days - realise I am crap at coding and not a computer tech - and hold onto the current version of windows and when I can longer surf the net begrudgingly switch to new version.

Finished the move just a few weeks ago, welcome to the club :)

Every single tech influencer with a backbone should recommend EVERYBODY switching to linux and start making tutorials for that. It really is that simple. Sux if you're a windows channel and you rely on that for income. But it's time to have a backbone and be open about how terrible microsoft has become. And this influencer, well: "I am adding so much to the e-waste because I cant install windows 11"... I BUY refurnished G1 HP laptops with an ssd for about $100, installs linux and GIVES them to friends and they don't even realize they are 10 or so years old BECAUSE THEY RUN AS FAST AS WIN11 for 90% of what people do on a laptop! HOW ABOUT TRYING TO INFLUENCE TO NOT BE THE PROBLEM AND ADD TO THE E-WASTE?!? It royally pisses me off to hear someone with "tech knowledge" saying something like that. Is he PAYED by microsoft?!?

Windows 11 new spyware feature got me convinced to switch.

“Despicable” is the adjective that best fits the company that Microsoft has become.

Which distro? which kernel? which distribution? which release? which version?

@@high-captain-BaLrog As a basic (self annointed) power user, I don't understand anything you just said, which is probably why Linux isn't popular. This is too much.

Why do loonix people always have to tell everyone they use loonix?

​@@high-captain-BaLroganything really, Ubuntu 🤷‍♂️? The important thing is we try to do something.

@@GrigRP I don’t use Linux just looking at alternatives

Advanced users should easily find them it's called command prompt. if you don't know that you're not a advanced user,

@@JustMyFish Not everything is properly done with a terminal, not in Windows.

@@JustMyFish Goes to show you don't really know what you're talking about. Not every option is easily manipulated with command prompt. Command prompt only does so much. For more advanced settings, you need to use PowerShell, and the commands there are tedious to memorize all of them and type them out as they can be long and very specific. The whole purpose of Microsoft Windows is to have a UI. It was designed specifically for the UI as an improvement over command line DOS and MS-DOS. The fact of the matter is that what was once a great operating system with the options and control panels you needed under Windows 7 has been purposefully dumbed down with those same options concealed specifically to make it more difficult to do what otherwise in the past has been a very simple task.

@@JustMyFish If I need terminal why would I need the GUI? Remember that the GUI was the very reason for Windows to get a boost?

Even *Microsoft says 60% of Azure runs Linux!* LOL > More than 60 percent of customer cores in Azure run Linux workloads.

Mint!

So, START NOW! Instead of ending up struggling madly AFTER Win10 goes away; devote some time to getting ready and experienced NOW -- when you can still run your computer world on Win 10!!

Same, I've already disabled updates on my Windows 10 anyway.

Indeed just use third party AV/Firewall. Will be good for the next 6 years.

We are in a precarious spot because we will not have a choice come October 2025.

so are you switching to Linux then? because if you go to linux your not coming back to windows later

@@raven4k998 I'm not yet. To do this I will have to figure out how to make MSO work. For now, sticking with w10. I use excel heavily, including the recently added functions, i.e. that means office 365. I'm quite certain Ms will make it a vehicle to push w11 by saying at some point "well you need w11 to use o365, sorry, can't do anything about it". Will have to see.

@@raven4k998 switched to linux and went back to windows due to the lack of support for applications in content creation, and yes im aware of all the free alternatives for audio DAWs, and even the sparse support for DaVinci Resolve.

Then set you life offline...

@@raven4k998 If Wine worked like it was supposed to especially with games I would be there. I do leave a Linux partition because I miss the terminal so much.

Idk, I love DLSS/FSR and my voice to text feature on my phone.

@@-T--T- Because it's the future, you won't be able to hide from AI forever.

Weirdly, I do... but only if it is MY AI (where I can control the biases and know there are no data leaks outbound to goodness knows who). They aren't putting that on a phone or a desktop - it's like AI is the new "Cloud" - i.e. "someone else's computer"

​@-T--T- They're trying to "dis-engage" people's brains and in the process scrape *ALL* data!!! Who was the g00gle exec that wanted to provide the "single correct answer" for whatever was queried on g00gle search?! 🤔

I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't allow that.

Only good OS MS ever made was DOS and I heard rumors they dug that out of a dumpster.

Just think all the money you will save using linux, 4 computers using linux saves how much money at $100 each OS that will be 400 smackers that you won't have to spend.

How did you manage to get security updates? Back in the day when I was running XP I decided to see how far I could push it beyond any updates, it survived 2+ years before the OS just melted away in front of me as nothing at all supported it

​@@ethimself5064Might wanna look up LTSC

@@ethimself5064 I used it without any security updates. Nothing bad happened. All overrated stuff imo. Just keep using antivirus software.

Actually, up until 2029 and 2032 if you use LTSC versions. But the problem with LTSC is that newer programs may be incompatible with it.

​@@SolidNate99Security updates are important for the OS. In your case, since you don't care about security updates, why not use 7? If I were you I would because Windows 7 is the best OS that M$ ever made.

facts right here

hell yeah

windows 10 (non-ltsc) do get copilot. if you want true no-AI, use LTSC.

​@@rchltmediayep ltsc is the best version of win10

Cortona is enabled by default on Win10.

It's particularly bad with certain brands who seem to design things with the intent that it will go from factory to landfill as quickly as possible (collecting the user's money on the way past, of course). Mind you, the fashion industry is about as bad (though it's not e-waste, of course).

well those old windows ten e-waste systems might start cranking linux levels when windows ten stops support

Recall is only on the new Snapdragon ARM chips. And disk encryption is a good thing It protects your data.

I installed Linux (Pop OS) last night

I am using Windows 11 Pro with Start11 menu and ShutUp10 to stop the telemetry. It works fine for me but in a year or so I will be going back to use Linux full time.

@@LePedant It's not a good thing when they do it without telling you the password/decryption key and when it's a proprietary method.

@@LePedant it protects your data from yourself and microsoft becomes the owner of your pc and can put it at ransom at any time. it's not a good thing to have it turned on by default. stop shilling

Windows 11 don't tell you wat you can or cannot do with your system.

@@JustMyFish loading a bunch of bloatware that I'm unable to remove is. You're paying for less performance.

@@JustMyFish Go bleach your roots, you Microsoft shill.

Went off windows because of Win 10, went to popos and linux mint, ok all the things I use a windows computer for is the latest games, but seems like the new ones run pretty good on Linux. If I need to do some real work like spread sheets, Paper work, or data bases, I use a real computer, an Amiga, and the hackers just can't get into my system, because I ain't hooked up to the internet. I don't like MS spying on me.

Service? More like spyware

then disable it..?

​@@creeper6530you do realize every company collects your data (even apple😱😱😱).. right..?

@@Leandruhh not The Debian Foundation (unless you freewillingly opt in to package statistics, which don't consume private data)...

@@Leandruhh "Even Apple"?

Mint!

Start now with a virtual machine or booting from an USB stick, to get a feel for it. And when you install it, preferably do it on another drive and leave Windows as is, as a backup.

me too

I say get another drive and dual boot. VMs won't give you the full experience, especially with graphics.

Linux is kinda tricky, espescially when you play games, for me Fallout 76 on Debian work not that well comparing to Windows 10. Also didn't figured out how to install GTA5.

Reed that alot and wonder what "got to Linux" people do on the computer... please tell me.

That's true. That's a very good point.

They didn't read the room.

Make sure to blame oil companies for those prices and NOT Joe Biden who isn't an oil company CEO! All you have to do is google any oil company and look at the profits they are posting and the bonuses they are giving their CEO and you will see where your money is! It has NOTHING to do with Joe Biden and everything to do with cooperate greed!

Recommend to have different physical drives, one for Windows and one for Linux. Technically it can work on the same drive, but you'll be prone to having the bootloader overwritten.

@@Winnetou17 agree.

​@@Winnetou17 the bootloader can be deleted regardless of whether or not you use seperate drives... but honestly? it makes it so much easier to go cold turkey off Windows

Since you know computers, just put WIN10 behind the firewall with no access to Net and run it forever ?

So basically you are not doing any actual real world work, just playing around in retirement. Linux is great for filling up your time chasing 'compile for incompatible source-only' stuff. And stuff that looses support because someone took a hissy fit.

@@panan7777 I have considered that, but I can do everything I need to do these days with Linux. Although, I might just set up an isolated VLAN and fire up my old Win 3.x, NT and OS/2 boxes.

@@gerritvisser No, I'm still doing actual work with Linux. I'm just not getting paid to do it for someone else.

This! The vast majority of casual PC users can be transferred to Linux with their existing hardware with no problems or setbacks. Why he produces E-waste instead, as he told here?

I'm on Windows 10, and currently researching which Windows-like flavor (Or distro as they say), Linux Mint, Zorin OS, and KDE Plasma. Interestingly enough KDE is the version that the Steam Deck runs.

@@CyberCluNot to be a pedant, but note that KDE is a desktop environment, which can run on multiple Linux systems. You can in principle run Linux Mint with it (as opposed to the default Cinnamon). Steam Deck runs SteamOS, which as I was told is only good for this purpose (running Steam games, that is).

I think if Microsoft continues this moneymaking policy with it's hardware allies, people flock to Linux. but the problem is we need one or two unified versions of Linux - such as Mint you mentioned if it's ok for every newcomer - which are easy to use and PC game and app developers invest on developing for long term just like Android for smartphones not tens of different versions for different professional users. I kind of feel this is going to happen

Totally agree, a lot of perfectly working PCs could be saved with Linux. 👍

AI always makes me feel smarter-lol

Same opinion!👍👍👍

Mint!

What distro?

it's worth keeping in mind that different Linux distributions can give Very different experiences. which is a bit of a challenge for new users.

Last time I played around with Windows gaming in Linux it works great for that one gaming session. My issue that I had with it is when I went back to try to play a game a week or two later it was broken again and I would have to spend most of my time trying to figure out how to make it run. It got so aggravating that I quit playing with it.

​@@CyberCPU When was this? Steam, because of the SteamDeck, which is linux, have poured tons of support for it. I haven't played much on linux either, since my gaming PC is windows. But have played Hollow Knight on my Ubuntu laptop with no problems. I don't know if it's because it has official support or because of steam compatibility layer.

@@CyberCPU you were probably running your games out of a NTFS drive, weren't you? yep, that happens. When you go linux, it's better to commit to a ext4 partition. most of these issues just go away completely. So what causes most problems is the lack of commitment to the change. i went through that too. then i decided to format one of my 2tb ssds to ext4 for linux and all the stuff that wasn't playing nice with ntfs (some stuff work fine on ntfs drives) and leave the rest as they were for now. with time i'll change everything to ext4 and any ntfs drive will be the exception.

Ubuntu has been experimenting with telemetry, just saying

​@@jsizemoyep, it's scummy but you can opt out (instead of opt in). Other Linux distros don't have it, Ubuntu isn't all Linux

Yes a lot of people find it works. Others are terrified of its speed and ease of use. I guess each to their own.

shocked at how good linux mint is

No one styays with windows for its email capability dude. Its actual work software like CAD, Resolve and the gaming library. If Linus solves this in a way that doesnt hit performance too much then there will be a flow of change. Until then its just circlejerking.

@@tonysako I think you might’ve been influenced by people saying Linux is only for hackers or something like that… modern Linux distros are easy to use. And more straight forward than windows 10 or 11

@@Paultimate7 games is a solved problem. It’s literally just anti-cheats that go out of their way to not support Linux. As for resolve, Da Vinci Resolve has a fully functioning Linux version. Blender is faster on Linux. Photo editing is a bit behind I agree and CAD is also not covered well. But if your point is that there is no professional software on Linux you’re simply wrong.

Linux I had made Linux mint into Windows 7.

Chrome-based browsers don't patch critical security issues for windows 7, and Firefox will stop doing so in September this year.

good for you. people like to pretend that windows 7 is unusable, but everyone knows that there are third-party options to make it work (and there will be for a long time, especially since it's partially an enthusiast's OS now)

@@sufferingincorporatedtm1781 yeah and security isnt a issue u can get anti virus

@@shaunpatrick8345 Who cares, i don't use my Windows 7 PC for any critical work and all my PC's are hidden behind a strong firewall and Nord VPN. If MS decide to snoop on me, good luck to them.

I used to do I.T support for McDs , Australia & New Zealand. Did you do support or were you the on-site technician? Bro where I'm at their systems were a nightmare to support!

​@@sconnz Primarily on site (franchise now- but have been corporate) but I travel too- there are only 2 of us (certified by MCD to cover all these stores) My roommate works as a manager but has learned a lot from me so he helps when he can but because he's not cert'ed there's a lot of things he's not allowed to fix. Been doing Hardware repair (right down to mother/daughter-board level) & windows/linux/Unix software repair for decades @ this point. Even still I'll routinely get calls & the like from stores @ 3AM or whatnot like I'm an on-call doctor. But you're not wrong- if MCD spent less time trying to lock ppl out of the underlying OS, they could build a fully functioning one of their own, instead of piece-mealing everything together like they do. It also doesn't help that they teach ppl the bare minimum to get by- in my opinion there should be one dedicated repair person per 3 stores, not one for every 15+. Not too long ago one of the stores broke their tablet (Samsung z100) which all their doordash & grub-hub orders went to automatically. They broke the charging port- top dogs refused to get a replacement so the only option was for me to fix it. It took almost 3 weeks to get a replacement port/charging board (could only get it from china). I spent 13 hours to get it fixed, water/oil sealed & charged for the morning after the parts came in. Gave it to my roommate when he went in to open & 5 hrs later had the store manager bitch'n @ me that it wouldn't charge. Both I & my roommate confirmed it was charged when he brought it in. Turns out her husband noticed that she was pluging an i-phone charging cable into the USB-C port on the Samsung & broke the port a second time. That original board was the only replacement I could find. So she stayed pissed at me anyway, outsourced it to a local PC shop & he shattered the screen & touch digitizer trying to get it open (because the unit was designed for harsh environments there was no outside case to unscrew/remove I had to remove the screen & digitizer first to get at it's components.) She refused to pay the PC shop as well as me, luckily my paycheck doesn't depend on her whims. She still holds a grudge because she can't admit she was wrong so I never informed her that I could have got her a whole new tablet unit for the cost of replacing the screen & digitizer. He kept the tablet because she refused to pay, had me fix it again & wipe the MCD off it so it could be factory reset (the MCD stuff prevented this) He likes it, & we are now friends. That store still can't get orders from those 2 platform's anymore. What's really dumb about this is it was about $15 w/shipping for the charging port, about $230 for the screen combo & she could have covered that out of her pay a 500x over & still had enough to keep gambling at the casino. My Roommate,

@@sconnz Primarily on site (franchise now- but have been corporate) but I travel too- there are only 2 of us (certified by MCD to cover all these stores) My roommate works as a manager but has learned a lot from me so he helps when he can but because he's not cert'ed there's a lot of things he's not allowed to fix. Been doing Hardware repair (right down to mother/daughter-board level) & windows/linux/Unix software repair for decades @ this point. Even still I'll routinely get calls & the like from stores @ 3AM or whatnot like I'm an on-call doctor. But you're not wrong- if MCD spent less time trying to lock ppl out of the underlying OS, they could build a fully functioning one of their own, instead of piece-mealing everything together like they do. It also doesn't help that they teach ppl the bare minimum to get by- in my opinion there should be one dedicated repair person per 3 stores, not one for every 15+. Not too long ago one of the stores broke their tablet (Samsung z100) which all their doordash & grub-hub orders went to automatically. They broke the charging port- top dogs refused to get a replacement so the only option was for me to fix it. It took almost 3 weeks to get a replacement port/charging board (could only get it from china). I spent 13 hours to get it fixed, water/oil sealed & charged for the morning after the parts came in. Gave it to my roommate when he went in to open & 5 hrs later had the store manager bitch'n @ me that it wouldn't charge. Both I & my roommate confirmed it was charged when he brought it in. Turns out her husband noticed that she was pluging an i-phone charging cable into the USB-C port on the Samsung & broke the port a second time. That original board was the only replacement I could find. So she stayed pissed at me anyway, outsourced it to a local PC shop & he shattered the screen & touch digitizer trying to get it open (because the unit was designed for harsh environments there was no outside case to unscrew/remove I had to remove the screen & digitizer first to get at it's components.) She refused to pay the PC shop as well as me, luckily my paycheck doesn't depend on her whims. She still holds a grudge because she can't admit she was wrong so I never informed her that I could have got her a whole new tablet unit for the cost of replacing the screen & digitizer. He kept the tablet because she refused to pay, had me fix it again & wipe the MCD off it so it could be factory reset (the MCD stuff prevented this) He likes it, & we are now friends. That store still can't get orders from those 2 platform's anymore. What's really dumb about this is it was about $15 w/shipping for the charging port, about $230 for the screen combo & she could have covered that out of her pay a 500x over & still had enough to keep gambling at the casino. My Roommate,

It is if you count the LTSC versions which go up to 2029/2032.

Windows 10 doesn't have any issues. Microsoft can literally keep it updated with all new architectures and network protocols if they wanted. They want everyone to transition because of all the new telemetry and ads they're showing in win11. I remember when I was happy hearing win 10 was meant to be the last operating system, but unfortunately the new ceo had plans changed. Now we have 11.... A huge downgrade

How do you know. windows 11 you can now install with a minimum requirement of PTM 1.2 SO it's gone down from 2.0. That will help some people has PTM 1.2 is available on most CPUs from 2015 & upwards. There are no requirements for the Motherboard anymore just the CPU, but you are still stuffed if your CPU is prier 2015 thought. But if your PC is 9 years old you really should be ready to upgrade it. PTM 1.2 will require a fresh install So a bit more of a hassle with backing up files.

... wasn't that like, disasterous fault number one with release version Windows 8? I'd say 'you'd think they'd learn', but...

@@laurencefraser clearly M$ never learns from their mistakes

Terminal commands being required for anything is an instant no-go for a regular home user.

@@waffle911 Look at any recent Windows video and one of the first things they do is break out the CMD prompt or Powershell. In any case, these days in Linux distros like Zorin or Mint there's almost nothing to do with day-to-day use and system management that a normie user needs terminal for. There are GUI tools for all of it.

@@waffle911 the only two commands you really need are for upgrading and installing. Everything else works fine on Mint.

@@waffle911 Have not used Mint for a bit, but when I did, normal use stuff didnt require any terminal commands. Currently I only use terminal commands to make my arcade trackball move at 4x speed, otherwise it is so precise it takes a lot of spinning the ball to move the cursor.....but that is an edge case..most people dont use a trackball and of those even fewer have an actual arcade machine ball hooked to their computer

Running Zorin OS on my laptop that came with Windows 11. Every part of the machine worked out of the box and no need for console commands.

Windows upgrade actually works really well now. I very rarely reload Windows nowadays. I even have a whole playlist on how to fix Windows without reloading it.

Windows 11 will be supported for 20 years it will be enough time for Windows users to shift to new OS with all their datas

@@WololoWololo2And then you still lose all your probably data either way due to bitlocker.

@@TheForce_Productions Bitlocker. is off by default and the user has to set it up Its user error when people get looked out with bitlocker.

I am still on 7 too! Screw Windows 10 and 11.

Just be careful that your router is correctly configured - you've changed default password, you've turned off any WAN side remote admin and UPnP - and that any software you use to access the internet remains up to date. Some web browsers no longer receive updates on Win7. As long as you are careful and use up to date web software, you should be pretty safe. You may well know all of this but I put is here for the benefit of others who may read your comment and not know this stuff.

@@dingokidneys Who you talking to? I have had Windows 7 running since the the day it was released. And it those years I have replaced the router 2 times. Never a problem.

@@Airbrushkid If you are going to keep an unsupported operating system on the internet, do it safely. Your first line of defence is your router but many routers have a really bad default set up which ends up with them being sucked into a botnet and potentially exposing your LAN. But you know all this don't you.

@@dingokidneys Like I said I have had no problems. Even Steam still works and all my games up. Theirs 120 million players and out of that about 40,000,000 million Window 7 players. But these number can be off. But Steam has 120 Million players.

I occasionally get annoyed with how hard it is to figure out how to do something on Linux (actually Doing the thing is rarely difficult, figuring out how can be a nightmare)... and then I run into something that was complicated or annoying on windows that is just straight up 'plug and play' or equivalent on Linux, or that i never knew was even Possible when using windows and just stumble across in passing while using Linux that makes things much easier in one way or another, and it well and truely makes up for it. Libra Office vs Microsoft Office (and keep in mind, I switched away from the latter for financial reasons long before the ribbon or subscriptions became a thing) has been similar: various menu Items are in weird or annoying places, but there are so many functions that are so easy to use and make everything so much better (be it easier or less prone to causeing problems when interacting with other things or just having nicer results) are just a couple of clicks rather than a whole convoluted process that you read the multipage documentation for and still don't understand, nevermind manage to use.

Copilot came with 23H2, and it can be trend off its just 2 clicks Job done. 24H2 has an AI app but that too is optional you do not have to turn it on its off by default.

You are correct that it is much more difficult to bypass the Microsoft Account set up on 24h2 (except on Pro). However, Copilot is already on 23h2 and Recall requires special hardware (luckily) like a Snapdragon CPU.

@@JustMyFish 'on by default' and 'opt out' for functions that are detrimental to the consumer/user is NOT acceptable (especially when the company behind them has a track record of turning such things back on without asking permission).

you need updates because of holes hackers can exploit

Everyone needs updates as all software has vulnerabilities. Just minimise your threat exposure by good security on your router, up to date web access software (browser, email) and good sense when accessing resources on-line.

@@edwardmacnab354 Not when all your other programs are still updated. Anyway, security is useless if the OS is so buggy or slow (sometimes even from updates themselves!) that you can't even use it. Lastly, it took 10 years PLUS the leaking of the source code for XP (which came with far fewer security features in the first place) to reach the point where it was dangerous to use online. It takes a long time to get to that point.

"So we better get used to that." Why?

Well, we shouldn't get used to that, but... They aren't giving us an option. Ofc we have Linux, but anything Windows related...

@@henriquesegatto3742 You do have WINE for some windows programs or Steam's Proton layer if you're into gaming. WINE can be a bit finicky though and not 100% compatible but it may be what's needed if there is no linux-variant of a program.

i would still use windows 7 in a heartbeat if it was still supported. windows 10 is garbage, windows 11 is unbearable.

@@Gnevnyj I meant it in a way that they’re not going to change their way of doing business, so we are going to have to adapt to either something else to get the job done. I don’t feel like Microsoft is going to change unless they’re forced to change.