Cybermen of Telos In a Nutshell

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The Chosen Chimp

10 ай бұрын

A quick recap on the dueling CyberTelosian origin theories.

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@Cyber_Smoke 10 ай бұрын

Yeah this is cannon the cyberman on Telos comes from Mondas it's explicity stated that at the start of Tomb of the Cybermen and Attack of the cybermen.

@neilgodwin6531 15 күн бұрын

Don't know why there is confusion. Terry Nation wrote a story about the creation of the Daleks for TV21 comic. Yarvelling, one of a race of short blue skinned humanoids, created the travel machines. Dalek mutants escaped into the machines independently of Yarvelling, one of the last survivors of the Neutron bomb. The machines forced him and other survivors to rebuild and initiate the facility manufacturing the machines. The blue skins died of radiation poisoning but not before the Daleks were fully independent and able to reproduce. Later, Nation wrote a completely different account, Genesis of the Daleks. No one seems confused by the two different stories. I love both

@Wirrn 10 ай бұрын

I...wait what, since when do people think Telos a separate evolution, it was *very* explicit that they moved there after Mondas was destroyed, it was an entire sub plot in Attack of the Cybermen

@toast99bubbles 8 ай бұрын

Something Moffat slipped into a Peter Capaldi Cyberman story.

@seancdaug 7 ай бұрын

@@toast99bubblesMoffat suggested that the Cybermen evolved independently multiple times in World Enough and Time / The Doctor Falls, but I don't think it was as much a reference to Mondas / Telos as it was a nod to the multiple different origin stories from various bits of expanded universe media (the Voord from the DWM comic strip, Spare Parts, etc.). That said, there were some early novelizations that *did* suggest the Cybermen were native to Telos, including one by Cybermen cocreator Gerry Davis (I think The Tenth Planet one, but don't quote me on that) that even had a prologue stating that the Cybermen evolved on Telos and later moved to Mondas. So in the larger sense Moffat was probably just having a bit of fun trying to canonize a bunch of mutually contradictory backstories.

@toast99bubbles 7 ай бұрын

@@seancdaug Though Spare Parts cobtradicts the idea that they moved to Mondas. The whole of Doctor Who is contradicting itself.

@lepterfirefall 9 ай бұрын

There is an excellent book of this....the tapes are a audio version of it. Telos was an offshoot of mondas. The invasion cybermen were another offshoot, called the cyber faction which led to the revenge cyberman.

@toast99bubbles 8 ай бұрын

The book is different. I have that, plus the first of the cassettes and the CD. The book you're thinking of is also by David Banks and does have a RNIB audiobook version.

@badwolf66 10 ай бұрын

It makes sense that they would evolve differently, meanwhile the borg mostly all look the sameish, no wonder they went extinct by Picard Season 3.

@timecontroller8800 10 ай бұрын

Mission to planet telos revive cyber armies

@toast99bubbles 8 ай бұрын

I have this on CD, but I also have the cassette version of the first part.

@davidh7088 Ай бұрын

I think this is canon. After Mondas the cybermen were reduced to a few scattered nomad groups. One of these settled on Telos. The Tennant era cybermen are unrelated and from a parallel universe.

@cooperminion825 Ай бұрын

I remember hearing in an interview that the og Cybermen were created due to the fear around organ transplants and the new ones were created due to the fear around technology advancing at such a rapid pace