Cyberpunk 2077 - 1.5 Ray-Traced Local Shadows Comparison

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Cyberpunk 2077 - Local RT Shadows Comparison
Settings maxed out. Scenes in varying DLSS settings in 1440p.
Even with real-time ray tracing still being in its infancy, I believe RT will become more important with current and coming generation hardware, so I created this channel with the intention of covering ray-traced games. There are plenty of channels doing mainly performance comparisons, my intention is to focus on the visual aspect and make the differences more obvious to viewers through my videos.
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@douvaman 2 жыл бұрын

i don’t care what people say, this game is amazing and is the best looking game in the market! only thing it needs is better reflections in puddles and not blurry windows

@dwaynethequandaledinglejoh5327 2 жыл бұрын

This game gives me some futuristic vibes whenever I drive or look at night city from my apartment

@douvaman 2 жыл бұрын

@@dwaynethequandaledinglejoh5327 same here bro

@Sengial Жыл бұрын

I'd say its second to metro exodus enhanced edition. That game was built to have ray tracing only

@tablettablete186 Жыл бұрын

@@Sengial I was about to say the same. It even runs super well

@YenConjuring Жыл бұрын

Bahahaha

@jannovak6987 Жыл бұрын

This finally visually connects the ingame assets together. I was dissappointed when I saw the gameplay with graphics supposedly cranked to the max, because nothing seemed to be touching the actual floor!! I couldn't believe it. Now this RT shadow integration finally blends all together nicely. Thank you for a very good comparison

@wrong1189 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing work as always man. I always come to see your vids when RT updates roll out just to see if certain RT settings are worth pushing on my 3080 TI. And the local shadows in 1.5 were FULLY worth the slight performance hit for me compared to just sun/moon shadows.

@RayTracingRevolution 2 жыл бұрын

With all RT settings cranked up, the game definitely makes even a 3080 sweat and struggle maintaining 60fps, with DLSS that is. Consider running Ultra instead of Psycho RT setting, and see if the local shadows are worth it to you during normal gameplay

@brendontaylor7545 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, I've got a question. I also have an RTX 3080 and was trying to play this game at 4K DLSS Performance mode with raytracing enabled. But the game is behaving like it has a memory leak. I can get butter smooth framerates (okay, normally 40+ easily), but if I go to the inventory or map or move too quickly, my FPS will tank. But it doesn't happen if I set Texture Quality to Low, which points to it being a VRAM issue. But surely 10GB is enough VRAM... I really think this update has introduced a bug with memory allocation. A leak or... something?

@brendontaylor7545 2 жыл бұрын

Have you had a similar experience? I'm talking framerates below 20, which is absurd. But changing texture quality fixes it. And those framerate issues are random-ish. Sometimes an area will completely tank my framerate, and sometimes it won't. It is weird.

@RayTracingRevolution 2 жыл бұрын

@@brendontaylor7545 I play in 1440p and I haven't had such issues, it's usually 50-60 fps with DLSS depending on the area, with drops at worst being 40-45. It does kind of sound like a VRAM issue if lower res textures bring it back to normal.

@GreatMossWater 2 жыл бұрын

@@brendontaylor7545 same problem here with my RTX 3060 Ti at 4K, going to the map or inventory makes the game lag badly until I’m forced to go 1440p.

@ISSANN_Music 2 жыл бұрын

@@brendontaylor7545 I experience the same thing with my 3070. On max RT 1440p performance DLSS I get around 50-60 fps, but will experience random tanks in fps like you. Memory leak has always been my opinion too.

@pigydog123 2 жыл бұрын

I've been wondering how much of a difference it makes, good job once again!

@darrylcampbell9733 2 жыл бұрын

Dude your choice of music for these CP RT videos is fire 🔥!!! Love the content!

@DTunezOfficial 2 жыл бұрын

Always looking forward to your videos! Love RT! Can you do some more comparisons of RT off and on in Dying Light and Metro?

@NiceGuyShaders 2 жыл бұрын

Great video choom. Was waiting for it.

@mwhite_ 2 жыл бұрын

I think I've found the brilliant channel. Keep it up man!

@fapnawb 2 жыл бұрын

CP2077 looked ridiculously good even before and now they made it even better. This game is gonna hold up visually so well down the line.

@TheBadger 2 жыл бұрын

Quality content as always, keep up the good work.

@PalmliX 2 жыл бұрын

It's all about the shadows!

@tony_cgivfx 2 жыл бұрын

Wow fantastic showcase, local rt shadows add so much realism that's amazing

@acosta2493 2 жыл бұрын

Been here since before the channel was called Ray Tracing Revolution. Love the content and how succinct it is when it comes to comparisons involving Ray Tracing in games. Hope you're channel continues growing, and hope your content stay great!

@RayTracingRevolution 2 жыл бұрын

hahaha, were you on my other channel when I still had Squad and Arma videos?

@acosta2493 2 жыл бұрын

@@RayTracingRevolution No. Sadly not that far back, I believe, but my memory is a bit iffy at the moment . But I think I did subscribe from your first metro exodus video, as I was playing the RT version at the time. I think the channel was a person's name or something like that

@GerrusEdits 2 жыл бұрын

i really love your content man, what big differences such little details can have in the envoirment later on is just incredible imo, keep it up!

@poonakanwanaeloh7858 8 ай бұрын

This is the best explaination Ive seen from from youtube. Great example that makes me understand how it works immediately

@NBWDOUGHBOY 2 жыл бұрын

1:11 Look how the shadows pop in with RT off that's really interesting. Good find.

@GoogleMoment 2 жыл бұрын

I think these comparisons and showcases might benefit from being uploaded at 4K, even if capturing footage at 4K isn't feasible. I'm not sure how a clean 1440p capture scales to a 4K video file, but I imagine the output on KZfaq would be better defined regardless if 4K videos are afforded a higher bitrate. In any case, keep up the good work.

@yingbob8236 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome comparisons. Ray traced shadows from non-sunlight artificial light sources is really underrated compared to RT reflections and GI

@kucingganteng3148 Жыл бұрын

So beautiful thank you!

@Martel4 2 жыл бұрын

Wow great video. New RT looks so amazing. Maybe I can start my third play through soon. I'll get like 30fps but who cares.

@FDx8500 2 жыл бұрын

man! the soundtrack! amazing work

@MorriganJade 2 жыл бұрын

With my 2060 I'm not even bothering to enable RT effects. But I did found out that using 1620P DLDSR and DLSS Balanced you get a much more crisp image on a 1080P monitor with around 60 average framerate (perfect for things like G-Sync) than just native 1080P. Since that revelation, I decided to not bother using RT at all anymore until I have upgraded to the new gen that will be announced later this year or next year. Edit: but I do love that the devs keep adding things, including new ways to use RT! :D

@brendontaylor7545 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, I'm early! Neat! Great vid as always. I've used your content to show my friends and family what raytracing does and how awesome it is. Keep up the good work!

@brendontaylor7545 2 жыл бұрын

Seriously, there are so many vids of people "showcasing" raytracing in various titles where they barely show the difference at all. You can't just enable reflections and then look at non-reflective surfaces the whole video... it's especially annoying when they say it doesn't make a difference. It does. Look better. XD

@Mr_G_s_Route_66 2 жыл бұрын

@@brendontaylor7545 They say this because their PC can't run it. They buthurt a console BEATS their system, so they say it isn't worth it. But I believe this is the reason this well thought out-channel exists. I can say to you: if you will see how awesome raytracing can be, play Hitman 3. But it's the same people PC and console-wise that will deny this.

@brendontaylor7545 2 жыл бұрын

@@Mr_G_s_Route_66 I'm not sure I entirely agree. Sure, I suppose some people might be frustrated that some PCs are faster than their consoles, but raytracing isn't exactly a simple concept and they may not know what it even is. To me, it is a simple concept to understand because I have a passion for this sort of thing, but for some others, they might have a hard wrapping their heads around it, which is perfectly fine. I just have an issue when people try to educate when they do not know the topic well and/or have a clear bias against a new tech for a reason I find unjustified or invalid (in this case, raytracing)

@Mr_G_s_Route_66 2 жыл бұрын

@@brendontaylor7545 I think they very clear know what it is, but that they don't want you to find out. Not sat8ng anyone is like this, but I'm sure a lot. I hav3 learned that when I don't know nothing about something, I'm silent about the topic.

@HiddenStr3ngth 2 жыл бұрын

@@brendontaylor7545 RT makes a big difference in CP77. That doesn't mean that a similar effect couldn't be achieved without it, with other methods, and be much cheaper on the hardware(seen it). There is always a degree of marketing hype. (even though usually it's a lot worse)

@juu226 2 жыл бұрын

From polish settings menu literally this option name is: "Ray traced shadows casted from artificial sources of light.

@ricepony33 2 жыл бұрын

I’d love to see your work highlighted on DF sometime.

@rogigor 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Shows how important these shadows really are. If you were to choose between rt reflections or rt local shadows (to maintain stable 60fps) which would you choose ?

@RayTracingRevolution 2 жыл бұрын

RT reflections is more important in my opinion, you only really notice the RT shadows at night

@diabolofraise59 Жыл бұрын

Are theses effects all new? Or some of them were parts of the single option "shadow ray tracing" before the update?

@macoi3008 2 жыл бұрын

if i turn on ray traced shadows and local shadows, then should i set to low the other shadows settings?

@simonwest6002 2 жыл бұрын

Was ambient occlusion turned on with this? because this raytracing should make that option redundant, which should help with a little performance

@DerKrazyKrautGaming 2 жыл бұрын

Great comparison as usual! Unrelated to this video i was wondering how psycho differs to ultra when it comes RT lighting?

@davidrzmv3052 2 жыл бұрын

Psycho adds bounce light GI

@DerKrazyKrautGaming 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidrzmv3052 Yup i read it, but I can't find any good comparisons anywhere, there's a good amount of FPS drop when switching to PSYCHO, but even after I tested it myself the changes are very minimal which makes me think if it's even worth it. I tested it both indoors and outdoors

@DTunezOfficial 2 жыл бұрын

Was the comparison at 3:16 ultra settings? The shadows without RT look so jaggy

@RayTracingRevolution 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, I always do highest setting except for stuff like chrommatic aberration or motion-blur. The jaggy shadows are are quite common throughout the video. Though admittedly, the noise artifacts that happen with RT shadows at times aren‘t perfect either

@NiceGuyShaders 2 жыл бұрын

The jagginess is -weirdly- not because they are low res. But because of the not so well working PCSS (a shadow filtering shader that tries to look like rt! ). Unfortunately it only makes problems instead of improving image quality in this game :/

@NiceGuyShaders 2 жыл бұрын

Waiting for a reflection& sun/moon shadow denoiser comparison of patch 1.5 vs 1.31. it'll be a real cool one. Tho I think it's a bit hard to make

@sermerlin1 2 жыл бұрын

I am definitely getting RTX 4080 for cyberpunk 2077 to play in complete RT mode. RT on vs RT off looks like freaking very low vs ultra and now with local shadows this is improved even further. I mean damn.

@victorm.5167 2 жыл бұрын

Can I only use local shadows but the other rtx options off?

@unagi9092 2 жыл бұрын

This is something. How about performance, framerate, compared to w/o local shadows?

@cocobos 2 жыл бұрын

Been playing with RT shadows on with PS5, and it looks freaking awesome. It looks very expensive with locked solid 30 FPS.

@stoegi1729 2 жыл бұрын

Looks really great. Would like to see it myself but im stuck on my gtx1080

@Mavitros 2 жыл бұрын

The fact that these were missing when I bought the game on sale last steam sale is incredible. I noticed all the little objects and people that didn't cast shadows even with RT on back then. I tried the new update last night. Still saw lots of stuff missing and I'm still cpu bottlenecked on a 3900X

@wrong1189 2 жыл бұрын

You're bottlenecked in the same way I am with my 3950x paired with a 3080 TI. Zen 2 simply doesn't have the IPC performance. Even though CP77 utilizes up to 12 threads and that helps, Zen 2 and similar single core performance CPU's will make GPU utilization go down when tons of NPC's etc are on screen if you are using DLSS or playing at any resolution lower than 1440p maxed settings. Some games I personally play, going to a 5800x even will yield a 50fps increase in bottlenecked areas. CP77 isn't AS bad since it uses so many threads but dipping down to the high 40's and low 50's is still annoying when sitting at 80% GPU load lol.

@zexedearth89 2 жыл бұрын

@@wrong1189 yep, just wait for 5800x3d and upgrade to that if you really dont need 16 cores for work.

@Mavitros 2 жыл бұрын

@@wrong1189 I was watching my cores while playing CP2077 and noticed the thread usage. I also noticed that the game only engages the physical cores, none of the SMT threads. Its the first game I've seen over 45% usage with my 3900X. I'm moving to a 5600X temporarily very soon until AMD hopefully releases the 5800X3D. Tarkov starves for IPC performance

@sandrocarletto9386 2 жыл бұрын

does every single light cast a shadow with rt local shadows?

@pakalmex1409 2 жыл бұрын

Do you know if they have removed the cinematic rtx mode? now every time i try to play in that mode the graphics options are on medium/high

@Navakyss 2 жыл бұрын

It would seem that it is possible to work around the problem by activating the mode: -qualityLevel=Cinematic then restarting the ray tracing each time in the settings in game. The NPCs are more buggy than before however.

@pakalmex1409 2 жыл бұрын

@@Navakyss more npcs errors in cinematix rtx mode or in general? I have noticed that in cinematic mode sometimes the npcs or traffic keep appearing and disappearing or that the number of npcs and vehicles decreases as it happened in patch 1.31. I will try what you tell me, thanks

@dvxAznxvb Жыл бұрын

imagine seeing someone in public drive their car back and forth to test ray tracing in the real world

@RayTracingRevolution Жыл бұрын

literally me

@RayVa0 2 жыл бұрын

This is also the singular rt feature used by the consoles

@EnormousDuck2 2 жыл бұрын

Do you think its worth it to use these local shadows but not the other one, from the sun? Thanks for vid

@NiceGuyShaders 2 жыл бұрын

IMO it's more useful than ray traced sun shadows. Cuz shadow map sun shadows look really good except it doesn't have soft shadow. But shadow map local shadows look really really bad in cyberpunk and rt local shadow is a real savior for them.

@chunyuha 2 жыл бұрын

nice vid.

@MegasVN69420 2 жыл бұрын

oh yeah

@kondor99999 2 жыл бұрын

Karl Casey is a God

@SnivTen 2 жыл бұрын

I REALLY hope they add this to Dying Light 2, it would make it look 10x better.

@animuj6985 2 жыл бұрын

Which Raytracing level enables Local Shadows? Is it Ultra?

@RayTracingRevolution 2 жыл бұрын

It was previously part of the same shadow setting you used to enable RT shadows for sun/moonlight, but it's now a seperate option after a stealth update

@jakeola10 2 жыл бұрын

@@RayTracingRevolution did they separate the two to help with performance for those who wanna disable rt shadows for local?

@RayTracingRevolution 2 жыл бұрын

@@jakeola10 I assume so, with this you can keep RT shadows for the sun enabed and disable local light sources, as pre-1.5. Definitely makes 60fps more achievable.

@TheDanupro 2 жыл бұрын

Every object cast shadow...like in real life

@mussietube9909 2 жыл бұрын

I play on ps5 but i think the 30fps response time is to slow

@diegostrossen6751 Жыл бұрын

I don't understand, for some reason my pc can play this game with all max settings without ever breaking a sweat, now, maybe it's not hitting stable 60 fps, but it's certainly going above 50 at all times. I don't have a 3080 either, just a dual 3060 and a Ryzen 9 5900X

@kingx1180 2 жыл бұрын

whats causing the weird fuzzyness in 1:23 ?

@semick4729 2 жыл бұрын

Probably this scene used DLSS and ray tracing had a little problem with low samples on lower resolution. Someone correct me if I'm wrong

@RayTracingRevolution 2 жыл бұрын

I assumed the same, but I didn't find significant improvement to some of the shadow artifacts with higher rendering res, very odd.

@kingx1180 2 жыл бұрын

@@RayTracingRevolution Denoiser isnt capable of denoising soft shadows?

@NiceGuyShaders 2 жыл бұрын

@@kingx1180 the denoiser is from Nvidia's NRD library. Honestly it can't work any better when using only one sample (or even less)

@gyorgyh4187 Жыл бұрын

A very expensive setting to say the least, in action you won't notice as much as RT Lighting and RT Reflections those worth to turn up instead, on a card like 3060 ti-3070 due to VRAM limitations just wouldn't bother enabling it, VRAM will limit performance and cause stutters most of the time.

@user-wu6gt1gf1c Жыл бұрын

this shit looks way more impactful than some dumb reflections TBH

@Mr.Kjottdeig 2 жыл бұрын

the noise will be disappear with future iterations of ray tracing and better GPUs :D

@SJkopa 2 жыл бұрын

elden ring vs cyberpunk 2077 1.5 who win?

@RayTracingRevolution 2 жыл бұрын

Gameplay wise, probably Elden Ring if reviews are ;)

@VideoGameKillCounts 2 жыл бұрын

Without a shadow of a doubt, this is the worst form of RT they could have implemented to make it “next gen”. My hopes are now diminished for Witcher 3 enhanced edition, however there is a shit tonne more candles that would look cool with RT shadows!

@RayTracingRevolution 2 жыл бұрын

I do hope they add the full set of RT effects in Cyberpunk to Witcher, on PC atleast. But yea, if you have the choice between 30 and 60 fps and the only change is shadows, its even harder to justify the performance loss.

@wrong1189 2 жыл бұрын

For the consoles, it was either RT shadows or nothing. RNDA2 GPU's already have extremely poor RT performance. Go look at RT benchmarks using the strongest RDNA2 GPU, the 6900 XT. And RT reflections and Lighting would have caused the framerate to plummet much harder. RDNA3 GPU's will have much better RT performance but the consoles for now simply can't do RT well which is why devs opt for shadows. At 1440p Quality DLSS, my 3080 TI manages 60-70fps with everything maxed out including all forms of RT. So expecting more out of the consoles is kind of a stretch.

@pigydog123 2 жыл бұрын

@@wrong1189 yeah we are going to have to wait a few years until a RT technique or some form of AI upscaling hits consoles for them to be able to RT in any sort of meaningful way in most games

@pigydog123 2 жыл бұрын

its also going to be hard to implement any sort of AI upscaling on them due to the fact that they don't have dedicated hardware for Machine Learning on their APU's

@pigydog123 2 жыл бұрын

due to these facts most of the really good looking games will be made at the end of the generation, which is not really different from how it has been for previous console generations