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Cycloidal Rotor Airplane: The Cycloplane

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Nicholas Rehm

Nicholas Rehm

Күн бұрын

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@Project-Air
@Project-Air 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, I've often sniffed an airplane to diagnose the problem. Great job as always Nick! Impressive project to pull off.
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks James! Cycloidal rotor boat? I’ve got some .stls with your name on them
@Project-Air
@Project-Air 2 жыл бұрын
@@NicholasRehm Great idea! Feel free to send them over!
@rex8255
@rex8255 2 жыл бұрын
My Father sniffs the oil in his cars to see if it needs to be changed. He's a Stanford Civil Engineering grad, and had a 30+ year career in Aerospace, including the Lockheed L-1011. You're (IMHO) in good company using aromatic diagnostic techniques.
@neo1231
@neo1231 2 жыл бұрын
"That smells very warm" 🤣
@3dprintworld503
@3dprintworld503 Жыл бұрын
collab pls
@andresmonagas7662
@andresmonagas7662 2 жыл бұрын
This is a super interesting idea, I really do like how good projects from the early 1900´s can have a better research with today technologies
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
Lemme know if there’s any other cool designs I should try
@DashzRight
@DashzRight 2 жыл бұрын
If the design was left 100 years ago, it means it sucks. Simply.
@BrapBrapDorito
@BrapBrapDorito Жыл бұрын
@@DashzRight Many designs are viable now due to advances in material science and miniaturization of components. Hypernormalizing this into “it probably sucks” isn’t a good way to get anywhere.
@evanbarnes9984
@evanbarnes9984 Жыл бұрын
​@@DashzRight and that's why we don't use AC or DC current anymore, right? Or radio signals?
@x808drifter
@x808drifter Жыл бұрын
@@evanbarnes9984 Yeah but we didn't "leave" those like was said either.
@michaelrechtin
@michaelrechtin 2 жыл бұрын
I love the style and pacing of this video. Solid designs and solid testing! Excited for more!
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
Very much appreciated Michael. This video took way longer than it should have lol
@thelement3363
@thelement3363 2 жыл бұрын
that is the next level. fusion of plane, heli, and drone.
@spikekavalench
@spikekavalench 2 жыл бұрын
Genius in engineering, I’m very impressed!
@JudeSchauer
@JudeSchauer 2 жыл бұрын
It's great to see your progress! It looks like you had some amazing sustained flights. Much better than my little glide. 😂 I never realized that the one airfoil acts like a wing during forward flight, but that makes sense now. That and probably the higher airflow for the bottom rotor (the one with lots of helpful virtual camber) gives something like a 36% decrease in power consumption at higher speeds. I'll hopefully get my third attempt at a cycloplane flying in the coming months; It'll be interesting to see if it has the same general flight characteristics as yours (hopefully excluding the exploding rotor). Good luck on future projects, I can't wait to see the cool things that you come up with.
@oadka
@oadka 2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed to your channel! Wish you good luck!
@henriquemoritz
@henriquemoritz 2 жыл бұрын
Great job comparing their performance! Cycloidal rotor will need a lot of optimization to reach a propeller performance. So for me it looks interesting as a concept, but is far from be worth due its complexity and inherent multiple failure modes.
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree that it’ll take some more iterating and optimizing. Appreciate your comment!
@exterminater267
@exterminater267 2 жыл бұрын
Because of the larger "rotor area/wing area" I feel like these could be more efficient, but because of the mechanical complexity will require more maintenance.
@jeffrenman4146
@jeffrenman4146 Жыл бұрын
I found you again… The cyclo plane is really cool but I just watched your drone cyclo copter and I said do not give up you are not allowed… Well seriously this type of propulsion is the most beautiful of all you must continue. Like a majestic paddleboat in the South Mississippi River this is the most beautiful concept… I will not allow you to give up… Go go go yea… The coolest ever
@silversrt4ken
@silversrt4ken 2 жыл бұрын
Wider front wheels might have prevented that. But either way that first flight was successful even though the second one wasn't. Brilliant job
@ThereAreNoHandlesLeft
@ThereAreNoHandlesLeft 2 жыл бұрын
It'd make a decent vtol candidate, right? Because it has nearly infinitely variable thrust angles from straight up to straight forward, without having to pivot motors at all. Also, great work and thanks for sharing. Sorry it detonated, but... Science!
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, thanks. Yea I’m very interested in the control authority it offers for a higher speed vtol through transition. Baby steps until we get there!
@alexandregrynagier1762
@alexandregrynagier1762 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it could be something else than the blades themselves: it could be all of the stuff built around to control their angle of attack. Nice work anyway, that's a lovely dev, thank you for the video!
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly with the blades and linkages removed, it only draws something like 5% more power than an unloaded motor
@Mikewee777
@Mikewee777 2 жыл бұрын
I do not understand any of this but I admire your enthusiasm.
@peterryseck
@peterryseck 2 жыл бұрын
4:03 You may see propeller thrust but I see your subscriber trend
@ezonigs3107
@ezonigs3107 2 жыл бұрын
Very Nice. I don't have any practical knowledge of the cyclo rotor but I just learnt a lot from your video. Thank you very much.
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
Your builds are awesome, thanks for the comment
@ezonigs3107
@ezonigs3107 2 жыл бұрын
@@NicholasRehm wow! Thank you very much.
@dondywondy
@dondywondy 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! That 'unexpected result' has got to be one of the funniest ever!
@goran72
@goran72 2 жыл бұрын
That method will increase the effect on a vertical wind power. Very interesting. Good work. Take care.
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Goran!
@Torreiro
@Torreiro Жыл бұрын
It's amazing to see a man like you trying to make a revolution! God bless you! I really hope you can make it!
@peterryseck
@peterryseck 2 жыл бұрын
7:21 the BUILD UP. the SILENCE. I’m dead hahaha awesome work
@gyrogearloose1345
@gyrogearloose1345 3 ай бұрын
I like your jovial response to calamity and disaster Nicholas! And thanks for sharing this research. I'll be checking out your link to Jude Schauer and coming back to see what else you have been doing. Subscribed!
@tartansauce4879
@tartansauce4879 2 жыл бұрын
"Please work." *giggles. Immediately clicks subscribe*
@richyrich88
@richyrich88 2 жыл бұрын
I Love This! I'm almost done with mine, I can't wait to show y'all!
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait!!
@user-io2mk5ki2b
@user-io2mk5ki2b 2 жыл бұрын
Usually one such rotor is divided into two. In order to arrange the blades in a checkerboard pattern. It is very difficult to make a blade that bends at the desired angle. It is difficult to make the blades herringbone. It is difficult to put the blades in a spiral..This is a challenging puzzle.
@leventelikhanecz2258
@leventelikhanecz2258 Жыл бұрын
hi nicholas, i wrote to jude also, that this drive (like the voith-schneider prop on ships) gives different performance with number of blades, length of blades, length to breadth ratio of the blades. the voith-schneider played a lot in water. i imagine in air have other numbers
@markhuru
@markhuru Жыл бұрын
By not reading other comments, intriguing but rule of engineering thumb more moving parts creates higher risk of failure, this is why the basic fan, propeller is still used today in planes and ships.
@MagnetOnlyMotors
@MagnetOnlyMotors Жыл бұрын
2:16 that is what good experimenting will do. Love it, keep at it ! 3:40 that’s correct. Don’t base your work on comparisons. You will find different values of performance to be sure, as you are finding out. 6:50 try serpentine belts , toothed belts will rip apart if they jump the teeth, or over load the shafting, slipping a bit will let you bring it home at least .😊
@keithbrown2458
@keithbrown2458 2 жыл бұрын
I may be premature and giving a suggestion I flew RC helicopters back in the 70s we didn’t have gyros back then but we did have coged belts or timing belt, I think it will help you greatly. Keep up the good work my friend you have amazing ideas
@DavidtheSwarfer
@DavidtheSwarfer 2 жыл бұрын
A flatter/flat wing with ailerons will give you much better roll control, then you can use rudder for ground steering (without the roll) and banknyank for flight control.
@_hanz73
@_hanz73 2 жыл бұрын
I saw this rotor design in a old documentary video about helicopter history! If I remembered correctly I think it was from 1930 or something
@scuzzjumper
@scuzzjumper Жыл бұрын
7:45 lol at the frozen reaction during the rain of parts
@Paxmax
@Paxmax 2 жыл бұрын
"I need to take a break from Cyclorotors..." ...since its bad to end up like a homicidal maniac... "...but I learned alot..!" ...about my patience limits 😆 Good show, that spray of parts was truly epic... reminds me when I gave up on RC airplanes.
@yucannthahvitt251
@yucannthahvitt251 2 жыл бұрын
You do the stuff I imagine Samm Sheperd would do if he were still alive. I'm glad I found your channel.
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
Rest easy, Samm. This is such an amazing comment to receive, thank you.
@EnbyNomad
@EnbyNomad Жыл бұрын
This is Steampunk as hell and I'm here for it
@okaforakachukwu9303
@okaforakachukwu9303 2 жыл бұрын
You did a good job there, well done.
@1someoneelse
@1someoneelse 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds of that old black and white vintage video of the cycloroter that flew apart a everyone running away!
@gerrybeylerian5290
@gerrybeylerian5290 2 жыл бұрын
This looks awesome! Congratulations, and well done!
@rexcat180
@rexcat180 2 жыл бұрын
You're the much less pedantic Tom Stanton with a great repository of interesting projects! I'm sure you'll take off, if you can excuse that pun lol. When you come back to cyclo rotors again I'd really like to see a discussion on tip vortices in the vanes, it's something that a lot of people don't talk about and it seems a little bit harder to solve than the traditional tapered and twisted propeller. I have seen some cyclo rotors with disks bonded the frame but I'm wondering if that hurts the performance of the lower blade significantly.
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
Hey hey we love Tom around here I think the disks would improve tip effects but hurt inflow, so not sure if it would be a net positive or not. Only one way to find out
@rexcat180
@rexcat180 2 жыл бұрын
@@NicholasRehm didn't mean to shade tom too much! I think he aims for a younger audience but I've been subscribed to him ever since he did the paramotor :P
@alisioardiona727
@alisioardiona727 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive project. What a sad ending
@mjstow
@mjstow Жыл бұрын
it's always great to see someone doing research like this. Great work!
@Tsnafu
@Tsnafu 2 жыл бұрын
Something new and weird is always good, even if it ends up in bits 😄
@PeteyBird
@PeteyBird 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your upcoming videos. This is hyper cool stuff!
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MrBIG4D
@MrBIG4D 4 ай бұрын
This seems very similar to the Voith Schneider Propeller. These are used on tug boats and have the amazing ability to maneuver the tug in any direction.
@MarkJonesisjustaman
@MarkJonesisjustaman 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating concept. Thanks for building it!
@robot7759
@robot7759 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting project, may take years if not decades to perfect. 👍
@steved479
@steved479 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! this is an interesting project. I'm now wondering if these rotors could be built in/incorporated into a wing where the rotors "tuck in"/"rotate in" to the wing when/where they would be perpendicular to the direction of travel/where they are creating drag and not lift. I'll add this to the endless list of projects I want to get to.
@jsjrspivey
@jsjrspivey Жыл бұрын
You genius SOB ! Awsome!
@quad55555
@quad55555 2 жыл бұрын
cool idea ..fun stuff
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@inspiringengineer
@inspiringengineer 2 жыл бұрын
Love the paddle steamer plane :D
@ltsky311
@ltsky311 Жыл бұрын
I particularly like the part where you make a small confetti cannon in the parking lot. Literally LOL'd
@ridermak4111
@ridermak4111 Жыл бұрын
This concept works very well under a tugboat in the Voith-Schneider cycloidal drive. That’s because the weight and strength of the components is not a restrictive factor. Your project is wonderfully fascinating, but will always be fragile, I fear. 🤜🤛
@SevenWelt
@SevenWelt 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool video!👍
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@jackbusiness7879
@jackbusiness7879 2 жыл бұрын
The bird screaming when the plane broke was perfect lol 🐦
@Sqwince23
@Sqwince23 2 жыл бұрын
this mechanism is also used in some very unique tug boats as well. Could make a boat vs. a plane. :-)
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea
@mscir
@mscir 2 жыл бұрын
I would consider experimenting with different shaped blades, e.g. with more curvature. Maybe inflatable would be good for easy changes making testing a lot faster.
@poporbit2432
@poporbit2432 2 жыл бұрын
You efforts are so useful and rewarding.
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much, great to see you’re still working on the f-35
@tamuct01
@tamuct01 2 жыл бұрын
Great job on the project. In the slow motion shot it appears the right rotor exploded before the plane rolled to the left and caused the left rotor to hit the ground. Can you determine if it was a structural failure or did it hit something? I'm looking forward to your next adventure!
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm very good catch. The right rotor did suffer a little mishap off camera that needed repairs. Poor left rotor was collateral damage it seems
@rethinkscience8454
@rethinkscience8454 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds a lot more peaceful when it flies
@trippcailean9594
@trippcailean9594 Жыл бұрын
you could make an amazing oscillating fan with this
@marlonvite4152
@marlonvite4152 2 жыл бұрын
I love your projects, thanks X3 for sharing it, I kind of impersonate the young experience ; ) and knowledgeable science, I enjoyed it thoroughly
@Chris-vp2lm
@Chris-vp2lm Жыл бұрын
Good job. That's amazing.
@JamesManimal
@JamesManimal 2 жыл бұрын
FASCINATING
@Surferant666
@Surferant666 2 жыл бұрын
The prop makes 3x more noise - but gives 3x more thrust ^^
@60045108
@60045108 2 жыл бұрын
Keep on going. Investmets are waiting for you
@hakansundberg5105
@hakansundberg5105 2 жыл бұрын
Admirable work-through of a funny idea!
@rolflandale2565
@rolflandale2565 Жыл бұрын
When it spins. The flaps, even though position slim, causes wind vortex friction. Perhaps a quarter circle frame beam, could shield the return rotation of the fins from the drag of open exposed atmosphere. This only requires a rotate 1/4th circle frame.
@DeuxisWasTaken
@DeuxisWasTaken 2 жыл бұрын
Releasing the design on an open collaboration platform could actually gain you more subscribers.
@user-lu2cy9xv2z
@user-lu2cy9xv2z 2 жыл бұрын
2nd attempt to take of is gorgeous...
@michaelrtreat
@michaelrtreat 2 жыл бұрын
Very good engineering.
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael!
@flyinwalenda
@flyinwalenda 2 жыл бұрын
"Too Bendy" ?? Never heard that engineering term ! :)
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
Lol anything goes when you’re on a time crunch
@brett4264
@brett4264 2 жыл бұрын
I spit my coffee out at the satisfaction attained by pressing in bearings. Is that my dirty mind showing or did I really get the joke that was meant?
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
I just like the tight tolerances. You need Jesus lol
@ethanhermsey
@ethanhermsey 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful explosion there :p
@motochris26ify
@motochris26ify 2 жыл бұрын
at 3:14 the cyclorotor sounded almost identical to a Huey, pretty freaking awesome lol
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, it has a very thumpy, low frequency profile that's really unique for something so small
@joseyerayalmeidaalmeida
@joseyerayalmeidaalmeida Жыл бұрын
You rock,guy!!
@captivenut4122
@captivenut4122 2 жыл бұрын
This was educational, fun and created with care. Definitely worth a sub! So count me in!
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
You are too kind, very happy you enjoyed
@Quick-Flash
@Quick-Flash 2 жыл бұрын
I expect some of the efficiency tapering off is due to the motor running out of steam and torque at the high end
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
The gearing ratio definitely has the motor at the right side of the torque/power plot. Probably would benefit from a higher gearing ratio in the next iteration
@dalerogers1134
@dalerogers1134 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive
@maxschlussel5708
@maxschlussel5708 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job Nick! Couldn't have done it witout Winklemans class...
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
All thanks to the zener diode
@klausnielsen1537
@klausnielsen1537 2 жыл бұрын
I loved it 😁 Huge smile in my face right now. But I hated when the planet exploded.
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
lol, we will rebuild and come back with an even better design
@karbengo
@karbengo 2 жыл бұрын
Reinventing the propeller sounds as good as an idea as reinventing the wheel imo.
@selfie183
@selfie183 Жыл бұрын
looks very smouthe and stabel
@Doug_Narby
@Doug_Narby 2 жыл бұрын
It was noted that at 7:28 in the video "catastrophic unscheduled disassembly", otherwise known as "re-kitting" was experienced. Further testing is indicated.
@FoxDog1080
@FoxDog1080 Жыл бұрын
5:24 Noise can also be based on the shape of a propeller There are ways to quiet normal propellers but that's tedious and normal people don't want to do that
@mrwang420
@mrwang420 2 жыл бұрын
The props exploding like that probably why this design never took off lol.
@agrxdrowflow958
@agrxdrowflow958 2 жыл бұрын
The reduced noise feature alone will buy it's way on.
@kamikazekeebler
@kamikazekeebler 2 жыл бұрын
awesome!
@ryu-tz8et
@ryu-tz8et 6 ай бұрын
1:25 The patents for the flying car are from Austria not Russia and the "Voith Schneider Propeller" comes from Germany. The patent was filed in 1927 but was mainly used in shipping
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 6 ай бұрын
The video was from someone in Russia tho
@eCitizen1
@eCitizen1 2 жыл бұрын
The next time you make this prototype, put your engine higher by about 6 inches.
@unknownhours
@unknownhours 2 жыл бұрын
So, traditional props have a speed limit, if you don't want the tips to produce a continuous sonic boom. With the cyclorotor, you could spin it up to mach 0.9, and then increase the length if more thrust is desired. That would be interesting to see.
@stephen3966
@stephen3966 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very innovative and learn a lot from you!
@iggypeters5564
@iggypeters5564 2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing!!!
@NicholasRehm
@NicholasRehm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Iggy
@HaileISela
@HaileISela Жыл бұрын
love the concept! but if I could ask for something: it would be really interesting to compare different numbers of blades on these, specifically three and six would be something i'd wish to see!
@viniciusbrito7512
@viniciusbrito7512 2 жыл бұрын
dude, quite impressive work! thanks for sharing... u r a freaking inventor! great stuff, keep it up! Cheers!
@jeremygalloway1348
@jeremygalloway1348 Жыл бұрын
A vane like this, with a curved angle. More rotors, more blades. More offset to the 2 point no thrust positions. And with curvature it would minimize the actual surface area of no thrust at each point
@amubai3688
@amubai3688 2 жыл бұрын
Good idea.
@4DCResinSmoker
@4DCResinSmoker 2 жыл бұрын
@Nicholas Rehm Try using a notched belt so tension / slippage isn't so much of an issue. Besides the tension could torque the frame causing it to twist as more thrust is being applied.
@CarlosLopez-jg4yc
@CarlosLopez-jg4yc 2 жыл бұрын
Ojalá que sí veamos este diseño en un futuro cercano
@jocax188723
@jocax188723 2 жыл бұрын
Pros: High efficiency, low noise Cons: Instant parts confetti on any ground impacts
@lisakingscott7729
@lisakingscott7729 Жыл бұрын
If the aerofoils were stiff enough in torsion, only a cam on one end would be needed, which could simplify the mechanism
@sp66-know-try-think
@sp66-know-try-think Жыл бұрын
Good research and experiment!+
@SpaceFlamingo07
@SpaceFlamingo07 2 жыл бұрын
7:20 is great.
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