This is a quick video on how we removed the cylinder sleeve piston liner without the use of a puller from a Massey Ferguson 304 Industrial Tractor with a diesel Perkins ad4.203 engine.
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@liamt92333 жыл бұрын
I was trying to remove the sleeve in my old Toyota for 3 days, making and using my own tools. I wasted hours and hours. I hadn’t seen this video but as soon as I saw it I went outside and removed my sleeve within 1 hour. Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou
@kingpin97333 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration video. I totally agree with you. Avoid buying an expensive tool if you're only going to use it once. That applies if you can avoid damaging the cylinder block which in your case does apply. Great job!
@ald00832 жыл бұрын
Tried your way of removing sleeve and it worked exactly like you did yours thank you.
@bookerT_5028 ай бұрын
Just finished up taking sleeves out, took maybe 5 minutes. Thanks alot!
@johnminto77234 жыл бұрын
I just used this method after watching your video. I had the Ener-pak hydraulic pump, ram, and puller plate ready to go. I though man, this looks way easier! AND IT definitely was. Thanks for the video!! I need to watch your video on installing the new sleeves. I am working on a MF20 with a Perkins AG3.152 gas 3 cylinder.
@garyloughead50633 жыл бұрын
thank you very much tried this on a d282 and worked perfectly ,in 10 mins had two liners out
@jimjackle62824 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Brad, I owe you a beer, or actually a case of beer, because you saved me a lot of money. I have a ford 555B backhoe that has the perkins 4.4 engine with them stupid dry sleeves, and was thinking about buying a porta power and a hocky puck to pull them. The method you used is not only faster, but literally costs nothing. It also would be a bitch to get the hocky puck at the bottom of the sleeve with the crank shaft still in the motor and the motor still in the tractor. This video just made my day, thanks again for posting this.
@AllAmericanDreamChaser2 жыл бұрын
I will try this method on my old 1941 Ford 9N. Thank you for sharing this video!
@okanagancnc68163 жыл бұрын
I am about doing the same thing. Thanks for sharing your experience
@davidk6271 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never done this. I am amazed that the sleeve is that thin. I thought it was like a thick piece of pipe! Thanks for sharing this.
@bobwilliams45283 жыл бұрын
Great tip u saved me time and money, thanks
@edwardabrahamiii37424 жыл бұрын
I hate that i can only watch this video with poor quality my internet stinks but i love to watch ppl rebuild engines
@reinhardtrippmacher87762 жыл бұрын
My friends didn't believe me what I did on my 1hz engine. Exactly the same as you. Just cracked them out. Unfortunately my liners were 1.5mm thick. Took 1h each....done 6.
@misters28375 жыл бұрын
I bet the installation involves a freezer or very cold winter day...or Dry Ice... Sleeved a few engines...mostly freezer or -30°F Winter day...They drop right in!
@bradthesing5 жыл бұрын
Tried dry ice and was anticipating them to drop right in. Little bit more of a struggle than anticipated. You'll have to click the link at the end of the video it shows part of the installation.
@misters28375 жыл бұрын
@@bradthesing just watched and commented.
@jarnosaarinen4583 Жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@dalewinter5494Ай бұрын
On my small 3 cylinder kubota i did this and it broke my block beware , it made a hole into the water passage. Dont know if the biggger engines are ok with this method, but im going to buy the tool next time
@mikechapman4767 Жыл бұрын
How hard was it to drop the pan out of this tractor? I have a 135 with low compression in one cylinder. Wasn't sure if i could do an in chassis with the pan being a structural member. Thanks!
@bradthesing Жыл бұрын
It's been a little while since I worked on it. If I remember correctly, it wasn't too bad. I believe we also had to loosen the front end to get some clearance to get to some bolts on the front of the oil pan.
@NebukedNezzer5 жыл бұрын
great useful information
@bosshoss69lee Жыл бұрын
Thanks! It’s works!! Be careful tho. Found out they last rancher used a torch and gouged the fuck out of the block, but it lasted last time FML
@markhuru2 жыл бұрын
Has. Anyone ever tried this method on an 8n? Haven’t tried yet, are sleeves thicker?
@AJ........ Жыл бұрын
Wow, I got that same screw driver. Mine was from a company called Apollo back in the 80s. It's pretty magnetized right?
@melee4013 жыл бұрын
Why do I always see this whacko shit for pulling liners on small diesels when all you really have to do is size a piece of hard wood and place it between the lower liner and a crank web and turn the crank shaft to press them out? Forgive me for being THAT way but this is Navy Engineman A-School stuff and I have never had any issues with any small diesel doing it that way. The larger diesels I have worked had jacking bolt facilitation on the top of the liner.
@over-there2 жыл бұрын
These are not wet liners
@jkearthmovers27104 жыл бұрын
Good technique
@kimluscombe57394 жыл бұрын
That was a good help thank you i have a question,once the liners have been done do i need to have the head machined or can i install it with out having that done (this is my first attempt at this so any help would be appreciated) Thank you.
@bradthesing4 жыл бұрын
You possibly could get by without having the head machined. Check it to insure it's not warped or pitted. Since we had the head off, I brought ours in and had it gone through.
@giovannipg30002 ай бұрын
Nice
@ald00832 жыл бұрын
Also I'm working on a AG 3.152 having problems finding a exh valve seat anybody know where I can get some?
@AVelladuraipandianADurai3 жыл бұрын
Very nice thanks bro
@lotagreensfarm30236 жыл бұрын
What is that cylinder sleeve made out of? Currently in the same process but the sleeve in my tractor is extremely hard. Does this method only work for certain cylinder sleeves.
@bradthesing6 жыл бұрын
These cylinder sleeves are made out of cast iron and are very hard. There was a wider lip at the top of the sleeve that I chipped out and then slid the small screwdriver in. The rest of the sleeve was surprisingly thin and brittle. These sleeves were also dry sleeves. Some engines have wet sleeves that the engine coolant has contact with, these do not. The block on this engine is also cast iron. I'm not sure if this method would work on an aluminum block.
@7beast2989 ай бұрын
Anyone know if this method will work on a chevy 5.3 ls motor?
@randy1ization3 жыл бұрын
awesome, this will save me some cabbage !!!
@jowingschannel3 жыл бұрын
Bro nice tip idea save my money
@GitRDone71194 жыл бұрын
Hello, how were you able to get the oil pan off without removing the front axle?
@bradthesing4 жыл бұрын
It's been awhile since we did this but if I remember correctly there may have been a couple bolts that were missing that would have required the front axle to come off that we didn't have to contend with.
@johnminto77234 жыл бұрын
I am in the same process currently. I loosened the front 2 bolts and the upper loader frame at the front. By doing this, i was able to get enough play to drop the pan. This was done on a MF 20 Industrial with a 3 cylinder Perkins AG3.152. This is a gasoline model.
@josephrzasa34482 жыл бұрын
The sleeves you installed, were they semi-finished? And if so did you have to hone them prior to piston installation, thanks.
@bradthesing2 жыл бұрын
They appeared to be finished and we did not hone them.
@MaxkwGisKaas3 жыл бұрын
Did it score the block on the way down?
@bradthesing2 жыл бұрын
No. It slides in amazingly easy. No scoring at all.
@MaxkwGisKaas2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, thanks for sharing.
@orofinhappy36282 жыл бұрын
what if the liner is not bad and u what to use it back in the copy of the engine
@bradthesing2 жыл бұрын
If the liner is still good, normally you would not take it out.
@umarautoworks69494 жыл бұрын
nice information
@1500SCHLUTER Жыл бұрын
Never remove a dry liner that way pressed or pulled out preferably pressed.
@royanguiano26102 жыл бұрын
Does this work on all motors like a Cummins or say a Perkins motor on a cat 220?
@bradthesing2 жыл бұрын
If they have dry sleeves, then I would say yes. Some motors don't have sleeves. I wouldn't do this on wet sleeve cyclers either.
@douglasaguillon52012 жыл бұрын
Saludos donde compro repuestos originales que me de 10.000 horas de trabajo
@SirCavemaninthewest2 жыл бұрын
no poss guauuu
@aircommuter3 жыл бұрын
How thick are those liners?
@jonathanolsen72543 жыл бұрын
Boy that was neat. Not going to buy or make a puller...
@JohnJohn-cj8lt4 жыл бұрын
Punch touch the boreThen new liner fitting time easy spoil and water mix engine oil,,,
@bradthesing4 жыл бұрын
I would not recommend this method on a wet sleeve.
@risaljamal4260 Жыл бұрын
👍
@anthonyabinsay45652 жыл бұрын
What if the liner is cast iorn..?
@bradthesing2 жыл бұрын
I believe the liners were cast iron. Just real thin. Just cant be a wet sleeve motor.
@krzysztofko1462 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@jashanmaan65793 жыл бұрын
Its that easy don’t need to take of ur wrist clock
@bradthesing2 жыл бұрын
lol, ya, it was that easy
@AbdulKurad5 жыл бұрын
Good sir
@1500SCHLUTER Жыл бұрын
Don't use finished liners they should be unfinished and machine honed to correct tolerance. A finished dry liner won't be true in tolerance.
@99problemsudig3 ай бұрын
Not all them engines take the same liner there's three different styles
@singtracks4 жыл бұрын
Surely they are not cast liners,, tried that today on my Dexta,, just no way José,, mine seem much thicker,,chiped down at 10 mm , nothing thin and tin like yours,,any one here done a dexta?
@bradthesing4 жыл бұрын
No question about it, these are cast liners. It's common for dry sleeve liners to be fairly thin and wet sleeve liners to be considerably thicker. I'm not familiar with the Dexta and can't rule out that it doesn't have wet/dry liners. This method is not recommended for wet sleeve liners.
@singtracks4 жыл бұрын
@@bradthesing hi brad ..yes the dexta is a perkins 3cylinder and are indeed dry liners,,but for the life of me could not get it to work like you did.i even tried the puller route but was putting so much torque on it ifeared i would crack the block,,in the end i bought a 3 inch angel grinder wich would just fit inside the bores,,cut a grove from top to bottom and then collapsed them,,,,any how keep up the good work and great video
@herbertherbomoore4153 жыл бұрын
Great video, just needs to be a little louder.
@bradthesing3 жыл бұрын
👍 thanks for the feedback. I'll see what I can do on future videos.
@99problemsudig3 ай бұрын
You set pre cut ones in and taped down the edge
@99problemsudig3 ай бұрын
Them must be some different metal than what I'm working with this shit ain't no where near doable
@vsdhillon53105 жыл бұрын
Very Wrong if this is wet liner it will damage outerwall and start mixing antifreeze in to oil so u need little better tool u can make that easy too
@bradthesing5 жыл бұрын
I agree. This isn't recommended for a wet sleeves. This engine has dry sleeves.
@MrJbfixer5 жыл бұрын
It would be fun to watch somebody try and do this with a wet liner....but again.. totally different procedure all together for a wet liner.
@thizzfox Жыл бұрын
woo pants shitted
@athisuthohru8925 жыл бұрын
it work on wet type?
@bradthesing5 жыл бұрын
I don't know... These were dry.
@athisuthohru8925 жыл бұрын
@@bradthesing ok thanks
@davebrunner12725 жыл бұрын
no
@MrJbfixer5 жыл бұрын
no.. dry liner is very thin.. splits easily. Wet liner has substantially more wall thickness.