Cymbal Logo Restoration: Zildjian 22" K Custom Ride Brilliant (Really Works!)

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David Suriani

David Suriani

6 жыл бұрын

Hi everyone! Today I am restoring a Zildjian K Custom Ride to the best condition I can. I completely polish the faded logos off and re-apply new logos! And it worked!
I'm using a standard buffing kit and Zildjian Brilliant Cymbal Polish. With a lot of hard work and effort I was able to remove almost all of the dirt from the cymbal. After that we hand lettered the logos back on using transfer paper and a sharpie permanent pen.
I'm recording with a Yi + 4K action camera. Its a great alternative to a Go Pro, check it out!

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@madmanau8730
@madmanau8730 Ай бұрын
Hey man, just wanted to let you know that I finally got around to restoring my cymbals. Took fkn ages for my sister to become a really good graphic artist because she's a nurse but after a few calls a week for a few years she got the hint and I got the result! Very happy with this method but it does take commitment.
@pedrums1989
@pedrums1989 18 күн бұрын
Beautiful work!!! So inspiring! 😍
@keithjackson4990
@keithjackson4990 6 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! I sharpie my K logos when I see them starting to wear. Cudos!
@shahidullah5983
@shahidullah5983 6 жыл бұрын
Ur sister should work for zildijan or u should make a company on restoring the logos and ask for a price and get paid and be rich
@David-el1jw
@David-el1jw 6 жыл бұрын
Shahid Ullah you're thinking too much. Lol
@shahidullah5983
@shahidullah5983 6 жыл бұрын
David I was being sarcastic cuz everyone in the comments (well most of em) are saying she should work for zildijan and shit
@77easy77
@77easy77 4 жыл бұрын
if there are workers to put the logos on with a sharpy you would have to pay 30% more for s cymbals just because of that :D that is the most hardest way to restore a logo id say why not just create a stencil and spay over it??
@Matus0919
@Matus0919 3 жыл бұрын
she spit on the cymbal 😂
@rizkifaskia6108
@rizkifaskia6108 3 жыл бұрын
@@Matus0919 😂
@josephkubes8838
@josephkubes8838 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful job 👏 love your drum room with that SWEET Sabres Jersey framed on the wall!
@Spagz
@Spagz Жыл бұрын
Came out awesome! Nice job, both of you.
@Popcorn-vo7ng
@Popcorn-vo7ng 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yea... subscribed, your other videos are great. You're a good drummer, and that ride in your other videos, sounds amazing!!!! 👍👍
@NeMaAn
@NeMaAn 19 күн бұрын
I got the same cymbal but a 21. I have not cleaned it because of not losing the logos. I really am impressed and gave me some ideas to work around the paint. You sister created a template for the letters in a sketch. I think you guys are into something if you leave the template on and use the ink from the sharpie. as opposed to paint freehand. Either way, great job restoring the cymbal.
@LeeVenters
@LeeVenters 5 ай бұрын
Showroom quality !! Excellent job!!
@ralphbenites1312
@ralphbenites1312 2 жыл бұрын
Looks asome.straight out of the factory.I just got a zildjian master sound hi hats used for &159.bucks at guitar center. All I had to do was clean them up. I love them 14”
@siyabongathembinkosimngome8869
@siyabongathembinkosimngome8869 4 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same ride now I know who to take it too lol, great job
@MrFg1980
@MrFg1980 6 жыл бұрын
I have the same cymbal, actually one of the early ones. I was wincing when you were using the power drill buffer...thank god my logos are fine.
@koolBOY8323
@koolBOY8323 6 жыл бұрын
i did something similar with a regular sharpie and some wrights copper cream to my 21" mega bell. didn't turn out as nice, but i'm no graphic designer. great work!
@infinitygasmask
@infinitygasmask Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the sound demo!!
@mpayne1184
@mpayne1184 6 жыл бұрын
Really, really good stuff! Awesome project that other drummers will love. Hope Zildjian picks this up.
@silky2916
@silky2916 6 жыл бұрын
Looks amazing
@DrumTeacherManila
@DrumTeacherManila 6 жыл бұрын
Make Cymbal Great Again! :-D great job man!
@khai-topicstudio5095
@khai-topicstudio5095 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone loves their K cymbal..
@cltubby
@cltubby 6 жыл бұрын
Nice! The Alaskan "Guppy" (737) on your computer screen reminded me that we sometimes use what we call a Super sharpie for part marking at Boeing. Good enough for aircraft parts, it should last on a cymbal.
@luckyrocks1
@luckyrocks1 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! That turned out really nice! Nice to have such an artistic talented sister to help with the project. I hope your enjoying the ride, nothing like that nice ping and stick definition from a 22" cymbal. I really miss my Niel Peart Sabian Paragon ride. Thanks for sharing your project!
@MarcosSilva-uv2jh
@MarcosSilva-uv2jh 6 жыл бұрын
Congrats to your sister
@darkknightk
@darkknightk Жыл бұрын
That's pretty cool!
@Drumistry
@Drumistry 6 жыл бұрын
beautiful!
@vandavis911
@vandavis911 2 жыл бұрын
Thats awesome david.
@jarretsantana119
@jarretsantana119 6 жыл бұрын
i agree with your opinion first and fore most. If you are trying to work on the cymbal in this fashion; by all means apply as you see fit. however, you can extremely discolor or mark up a cymbal applying cleaner directly to the brass. i just thought id drop my 2 cents in case anyone has considered and didn't know of the repercussions. great job restoring! just looking out for unintended results.
@havespacesuitwilltravel9607
@havespacesuitwilltravel9607 8 ай бұрын
I highly recommend Wright's Copper Cream. Take a first pass with the copper cream. You literally don't need to do anything other than apply it pretty evenly, let it sit for a few minutes and wipe clean. Then rinse it with warm water and dry with a clean cloth. No elbow grease required. THEN take the buffer kit to the cymbal. Waaaaaay less work and better/cleaner finish
@fireyourrocketts
@fireyourrocketts 4 жыл бұрын
Real nice! You must be a drummer! :)
@devinmartin3673
@devinmartin3673 Жыл бұрын
I have a 22" K Custom Ride as well. I bought mine back in 2006 because Dom Howard of Muse played one. I absolutely fell in love with how it sounded on Hullabaloo live. It cuts through the mix in a very musical way - it's not overly aggressive. It's just there, balanced, warm and bright all at once.
@dstar6314
@dstar6314 3 жыл бұрын
Looks good man
@robertorascon1581
@robertorascon1581 4 жыл бұрын
Buen trabajo amigo!!!! Saludos desde México!
@herbertfitch9189
@herbertfitch9189 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job !
@iansmith-hughes691
@iansmith-hughes691 10 ай бұрын
Very impressive 🙏
@prongATO
@prongATO Жыл бұрын
This is awesome, if I get a new Sabian cymbal I’ll polish the ugly logo off and put on the old logo! :)
@TH-pq3ly
@TH-pq3ly 8 ай бұрын
looks great, like it's in the music store back in the 90s.
@felicianomedel
@felicianomedel Жыл бұрын
I play only Zildjian cymbals. Before I totally lost the decals I colored them in with sharpie markers. Worked out great.
@thomastucker5686
@thomastucker5686 Жыл бұрын
Why do you care about saving the logo? Is it because, without the logo, someone could mistakenly think you are using a cheap brand not Paiste, Sabian or Zildjian? Maybe we look less of a drummer without logos? I am trying to figure this out. I don't need to advertise for any of the brands I choose.
@charlieb7916
@charlieb7916 7 ай бұрын
​@@thomastucker5686I personally just like the way it looks a little better with them on
@campbellmarty36
@campbellmarty36 2 жыл бұрын
Wowzers!!!!☝️☝️☝️👏👏👏
@Ghost3789
@Ghost3789 6 жыл бұрын
GREAT job to both of you. Beautiful ride! I have the 20"
@jasonkelly7573
@jasonkelly7573 6 жыл бұрын
i use to use permanent sharpe markers on the faded logos and it worked just fine and it looked new
@wisheye1
@wisheye1 2 жыл бұрын
beautiful
@jonicook60
@jonicook60 6 жыл бұрын
I left my ride outside in the garden for 3 mouth , sounds great
@wkrp71
@wkrp71 3 жыл бұрын
Non-scientific experiment with Zildjian Cymbal Cleaner by a drummer: I hope to post this on multiple locations that show the Zildjian Cymbal cleaner. I'll premise this by saying that I've been using Bar keepers friend for a number of years successfully, among other cymbal cleaners over the years. The Zildjian about 15-16 bucks per 8 oz. bottle, I find these cleaners are a great money maker for cymbal companies. Bottom line, I'm a drummer who hopes to spread the word to other drummers to hopefully help them save a buck. I recently bought a new Zildjian brilliant cymbal and wanted to test this cleaner. It comes in a white liquid that one spreads evenly, by sparingly, per the directions, onto both sides of the cymbal. Then it is wiped off with a soft cloth. My first impression was that it is very messy and the black oxidation that comes off (even on a cleaner cymbal like my newest one) is excessive, so one needs plenty of soft clothes. This newest Zildjian cymbal still had a sheen to it, but there were stick marks that the cleaner did not get off. You're going to need a A LOT of elbow grease to get all the polish off. At this stage of my life, I've used up most of my elbow grease. Drummers need to keep in mind that cymbals, like Zildjian, come from the factory with a factory-applied chemical sheen/coat that eventually wears off through cleaning. This is find and purely natural. Bar keepers helper is a world easier. Some people point of that is has an acid in it, but it's a WEAK acid, that won't harm the cymbal. Also, BKF doesn't irritate your hands/fingers, and if it doesn't hurt your skin, it's sure not going to damage/hurt your cymbal. With BKF, wet the cymbal, use the powder of liquid version and a small sponge. Let it sit for a few second, then rise off. Volla! It's comes out with a nice shine, without the endless elbow grease. You may opt for the liquid version of BKF to avoid micro abrasions with the powder, but those are minimal and not noticed by the naked eye. I also like the powder version sometimes so that I can scrub with a soft sponge to get the stick marks off the cymbal. I hope this helps. BMM
@125sloth
@125sloth 2 жыл бұрын
Well said. Barkeepers is the only stuff that should be used to clean cymbals. Factory cleaners are not that "exclusive", and indeed not that great either. Waste of money. One big wankfest. BKF for a few dollars runs rings around any so called cymbal cleaner. As for logos, I really do not care if they come off eventually or not. I am not that into showing off what cymbals i have. If they suit me that's all that matters. Brand stamped all over them does nothing to make you play better.
@SONORSQ2guy
@SONORSQ2guy 6 жыл бұрын
I still have my 22” K Custom Ride I love it. Great video.
@joesmithva757
@joesmithva757 10 ай бұрын
Looks Good
@James1623
@James1623 4 жыл бұрын
You've made an excellent job in restoring the beautiful cymbal! I have a K Custom 20” Medium Ride and it's an amazing cymbal
@sgtpepper1138
@sgtpepper1138 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, I have a 22" that I've had for 23 years. It has the block letters vs the "fancy" writing.
@gregoryburris7644
@gregoryburris7644 2 жыл бұрын
There is a logo branded into the cymbal...this how you can tell the real from fake
@annecleary1023
@annecleary1023 5 жыл бұрын
Good job on the symbol
@_stardust62
@_stardust62 4 жыл бұрын
You would think in this day and age that the cymbal companies could come up with a very durable logo system...like anodized coating logos... ink is so 200 years ago
@Paulbarnesjr
@Paulbarnesjr Жыл бұрын
I wish it was just like engraved in but you could still see it
@glytch5
@glytch5 4 жыл бұрын
So the original brilliant shine from Zildjian is actually a clear coat... so if you use power tools (speaking from experience, I use bench buffers) you will blast through that clear coat... your cymbals will get shiny again but they will go back to dirt quickly. You want to preserve that coating as much as possible.
@BrunoDube
@BrunoDube 5 жыл бұрын
Good Job
@esitoris
@esitoris 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! And what king of marker do you use to repair the logo's? I may have missed that.
@DrummerJohn
@DrummerJohn 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful cymbals, I love the K’s. They are a serious and expensive investment, way to keep them beautiful! I always keep my kit looking new, and $3000 worth of cymbals too!
@dafi723
@dafi723 3 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend the same method for a HHX brilliant cymbal? I have the sabian clean/polish cymbal cleaner, so I just need this buffering kit.
@charliepreidis3004
@charliepreidis3004 2 жыл бұрын
Everything thing you said about cymbals I 100% agree with lol. Personally, I prefer the Special Dry series but I also love Zildjian’s traditional and brilliant finishes. I now own a 23” Special Dry ride and I think I prefer 23”s over 22”s.
@skadrumsandwich7415
@skadrumsandwich7415 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome job. What sort of scares me about how perfect the logo looks is that this sort of thing could be dangerous with people looking to falsely brand cheaper cymbals with high-end logos. I've personally never heard of anyone selling "counterfeit" cymbals before, but I'm sure its been done before.
@friedpickles342
@friedpickles342 4 жыл бұрын
They'd have to forge th4 etching as well
@collinkennedy5174
@collinkennedy5174 4 жыл бұрын
Give me 10 seconds in person and I can spot a fake. You can't fake the quality. When you become intimately familiar with the product everything else is blatantly obvious.
@skadrumsandwich7415
@skadrumsandwich7415 4 жыл бұрын
@@collinkennedy5174 I'm obviously not as concerned about seasoned experienced drummers getting ripped off. Theres a ton of young drummers and even older drummers who are new to the instrument who would be much more likey to become the victim of such a scam.
@stevesmusic2895
@stevesmusic2895 3 жыл бұрын
You should be able to get replacement logos from Zildjian. I think I still have a couple around somewhere.
@sectionq1
@sectionq1 6 жыл бұрын
Only thing I'd say is you've probably done a better job than Zildjian, especially the K logo, looks sharper than the factory job to me. Lovely job by the way.
@MrTripletts
@MrTripletts 4 жыл бұрын
Make a stencil with a “cricut” (vinyl plotter) and mask the area and spray it .... go to a drum show and you will find people will pay you for what costs you pennies
@hoozerob
@hoozerob 4 жыл бұрын
For SABIAN owners, I believe they still offer the cleaning and restamping of the ink logos. For not too bad of a price including shipping. Why not have a cymbal looking like it was new again by the company that made it. I don't know if Zildjian offers the similar service.
@davidcurtis4478
@davidcurtis4478 6 жыл бұрын
Wow dude! Impressive! Rock on! 🥁😎DC
@senorx238
@senorx238 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing job! The cymbal looks gorgeous again 👌🏼
@netobatera2010
@netobatera2010 5 жыл бұрын
Parabéns. Ficou lindo. Perfeito.
@thiagomanobatera
@thiagomanobatera 4 жыл бұрын
Rapaz eu retoco os logos dos meu Zildjians K apenas limpo com um pano seco esse negócio de dar polimento no prato o mesmo destempera é quebra !!!
@drfiberglass
@drfiberglass 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job...
@pastadrums
@pastadrums 3 ай бұрын
Hi, I fricken love you for this
@veerchasm1
@veerchasm1 5 жыл бұрын
Hey! Now I can make counterfeit Zildjian K’s! Thanks
@dammitdulce
@dammitdulce 3 жыл бұрын
Great work. Cymbal looks gorgeous 👍
@My2Drumsticks
@My2Drumsticks 4 жыл бұрын
I have that exact cymbal. Don’t think it was that shiny from the factory but it looks great
@ynot3778
@ynot3778 5 жыл бұрын
Polishing you need highRPM’s and need to create heat to get high luster good job guy!
@campbellmarty36
@campbellmarty36 2 жыл бұрын
You should open up a business doing this!!! Have a price for cleaning and for cleaning amd RE-Logo installation!!! This would be a market you could really bring to life I believe!!! Uhhhh mazin job!!
@scottcoombs3201
@scottcoombs3201 5 жыл бұрын
Super cool. I too play a Zildjan 22” ride. You’re exactly right. No other ride can compare.
@azuldante
@azuldante 6 жыл бұрын
Love it man! /. / I did same thing 20 years ago and my friends thought that I was absolutely nuts.
@goaltndr
@goaltndr 6 жыл бұрын
Was that a Posca Pen paint marker? I use those instead of sharpies because clear coat won’t melt it
@URBEXLELOSTPLACES
@URBEXLELOSTPLACES 5 жыл бұрын
Wich marker do you use? It's hard to find the perfect one......
@thumperpaul
@thumperpaul 3 жыл бұрын
I like my Traditional finish 22” K ride. I just use almond or lemon oil to clean it. Brilliant finishes are nice, but they get dirty so quickly and noticeably.
@fanodhi6936
@fanodhi6936 5 жыл бұрын
What paint do you use to rewrite the logo on the cymbal?
@mel2401
@mel2401 6 жыл бұрын
I notice that despite extensive polishing you still didn't get ALL the old logo off. Looks awesome though. I have some really old 60's Zildjian cymbals which have all the logos engraved, so polishing is a breeze!
@CamxCam.
@CamxCam. 24 күн бұрын
VERY generous...
@kristianp.405
@kristianp.405 6 жыл бұрын
Hard work often pays of. Nice one 👌
@thumperpaul
@thumperpaul 6 жыл бұрын
I have a traditional finish 22” K ride, all of my other cymbals are Sabian. I tried for quite awhile to find a ride that sounded good to me, and eventually fell in love with the K. It works great for every genre of music, and I think the bell sounds amazing!
@animedrummerboy
@animedrummerboy 2 жыл бұрын
So you basically have all Zildjian lol I always joke about that bc I also have a mix and they’re the same family
@timbuckbuck
@timbuckbuck 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what type of sharpie did yall use? Thanks 😊
@EarthtonesCymbals
@EarthtonesCymbals 5 жыл бұрын
cool
@damionchrist
@damionchrist 6 жыл бұрын
If you like that ride, you’ve gotta try the Monster A Zildjian 22” Earth Ride “Brilliant”!
@ks7507
@ks7507 2 жыл бұрын
I have this exact cymbal in a 20" I've always wanted a 22" but never found one. I don't think Zildjian makes them anymore :(
@Drawson663
@Drawson663 4 ай бұрын
Who’s version of ‘blackbird’ the musicality is phenomenal. I must have it, if that’s you on drums then😳😅 superb
@alejandrodrums3464
@alejandrodrums3464 6 жыл бұрын
Brother you complicated the process way too much you could do this with tampography (as Zildjian does) I work with screen printing and its easy
@latesttrendsboxing2552
@latesttrendsboxing2552 5 жыл бұрын
Can you teach me how to do it, man?
@esitoris
@esitoris 4 жыл бұрын
Kindly some more info on this please Alex :)
@BeesWaxMinder
@BeesWaxMinder 2 жыл бұрын
What did you use for Laquer afterwards?
@christielhaver
@christielhaver 5 жыл бұрын
Wow
@ARDrummer
@ARDrummer 6 жыл бұрын
Very cool video! Looks like a brand new cymbal!
@remotexpolde
@remotexpolde 4 жыл бұрын
10:23 ..It would have been funny if you started writing "Alaska" while looking at templates.. (I mean, not really, but this reminded me of Me when I get so engrossed in something I just go Autopilot and suddenly I've etched some Cuneiform Text on the side of a space shuttle. Erm, ..because I Totally paint for Nasa.. ...probably... :) ((This was amazing! Cool to see siblings working together. Major points on the Made my day scale. I have all A Customs, my hats were barren, so I ended up basically going Sharpie and just doing the fancy 'A'.. Makes it so pleasing somehow. Such a classy logo. GREAT work with Both the K , the Print, And the Backside.!! Kudos guys! Blown away! ..whhhoooossshhh . . .
@sarinsahil
@sarinsahil 2 жыл бұрын
What’s that thing on the drill you’re using to clean the cymbal? Thanks
@havespacesuitwilltravel9607
@havespacesuitwilltravel9607 8 ай бұрын
You could also set up a silk screen. That's how they do it at the factory
@brendenkucken9117
@brendenkucken9117 6 жыл бұрын
DANG
@SimonSpringerMusic
@SimonSpringerMusic 4 жыл бұрын
nice! what version of blackbird is this?
@emlix1
@emlix1 6 жыл бұрын
did you notice much difference in the sound before and after?
@TempoDrift1480
@TempoDrift1480 4 жыл бұрын
Theres not going to be a difference in sound from a damn sharpie. C'mon man...
@jP-nr5wo
@jP-nr5wo 4 жыл бұрын
Wizzle actually, at my school we have a zildjian flat ride that hasn’t been cleaned in probably 10 years. And when we cleaned it it altered the sound some. Made it a little brighter, not too noticeable but it definitely changed some.
@TempoDrift1480
@TempoDrift1480 4 жыл бұрын
@@jP-nr5wo Well yeah, you're talking about 10 years worth of patina. Thats a whole different sport compared to some marker. C'mon man.
@OAmobiliario
@OAmobiliario 6 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure when u played it you did a mess on your heads because of sharpie's ink ! it may look good and your sis did a great job hand lettering it like a comment below says, use tampography so u don't get all ur kit and other cymbals dirty.
@goddamnzordan
@goddamnzordan 11 ай бұрын
which drill extension you used for polishing?
@prongATO
@prongATO Жыл бұрын
Would be awesome if someone started selling die-cut negative stickers that you could use as a stencil but I am not sure about the licensing since it will have to be the word and logo. On the other hand, you would think Zildjian and Sabian would like for their cymbals to have their logos prominently displayed.
@srijachowdhury4008
@srijachowdhury4008 6 жыл бұрын
The dog is so cute
@joecoleman288
@joecoleman288 2 жыл бұрын
How many polishes does it take to start removing the logo?
@ACWB3PRODUCTIONS
@ACWB3PRODUCTIONS 6 жыл бұрын
Hey man was this a gift from a friend lol I sold mine around that time
@gaboogablah
@gaboogablah 6 жыл бұрын
Normally people want the patina, it makes cymbals sound better than bright shiny cymbals. I regretted making mine shiny again and wished I never did it.
@robinhoodwasasocialist.1401
@robinhoodwasasocialist.1401 6 жыл бұрын
gaboogablah oh god here we go. Tarnish only mutes the cymbal. It inhibits vibrations. It's all it does.
@gaboogablah
@gaboogablah 6 жыл бұрын
It removes unwanted overtones, and you don't need moongel or tape to do that. I guess you don't think cymbals sounds improve with age either? And even cymbal manufacturers will tell you it does. Shiny glossy is just for looks. Check out the sandblasted and pitted cymbals available now. And paint especially red, black, blue, whatever mutes more. So why do people buy those? Looks. They sure aren't better than my thirty years old 2002s and original zildjian (before there were A & K types). Cymbals are like fine wine, they get better with age.
@robinhoodwasasocialist.1401
@robinhoodwasasocialist.1401 6 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna continue to clean my cymbals, thanks.
@gaboogablah
@gaboogablah 6 жыл бұрын
And keep scrubbing the heads too. And get that nasty coating off the snare batter too.
@robinhoodwasasocialist.1401
@robinhoodwasasocialist.1401 6 жыл бұрын
gaboogablah will do 👍
@bhobo09
@bhobo09 5 жыл бұрын
Making the "vented" K is the hardest.
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