Tim!! You crushed this! I am so totally blown away by what you were able to achieve with this cymbal. It will certainly be a treasure for me for many many years. Thank you!

The cymbal in its original form was surprisingly decent, even for some jazz. I've heard a lot worse at higher price points. Of course you made it a lot better. Great job and interesting video!

One thing about those XS20 rides: they were remarkably consistent. You can pretty much count on them sounding exactly like this. What a cool idea this video was!

as a drummer you helped fill in some blanks on why cymbals sound the way they do... will definetly help me choose cymbals in the future!

Nice work.

It was already much better after round 1! The fact that you knew exactly what to do to take it to another level after round 2 just shows your level of mastery. Amazing work! 👏👏👏

I LOVE the result, well done !

Very, very interesting; love what you did here; always ready to learn more about drums AND cymbals. So great, thanks.

Incredible! The outcome is fantastic👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Excellent work Tim!

Hey, I really enjoyed this project. Thanks to both Tims!

Amazing job, excellent presentation too.

Amazing job. One of the nicest cymbals I've ever heard!

Nice playing in this video! (in addition to the great transformation of the cymbal!)

Incredible work Tim!

What a great video! I love it that tweaking cymbals and making them better versions of themselves is now a thing.

wow !!!! the end result is amazing sounding!!!

Haha 7:23, very nice work on the cymbal and thanks for explaining your methods

Hey! I have that exact cymbal! I got it back in high school as my first ride as a gift from my pops. I have gigged it for close to 15 years and I’ll echo what everyone else is saying - the XS20s were fantastic entry level cymbals and all-around greats. Can’t wait to see what you do with it! 😎

amazing Job Tim....as usual.

The final one version without rivet is my prefered. Nice job man!

Incredible work!

Man you got talent !! Fantastic. I wish I had a cheap cymbal to send you

This was fascinating! Having modded amps, guitars, and basses, I never imagined the idea of having a cymbal modded! I'm truly amazed! Thank for sharing.

Holy Shite! Great job, man! You really opened that cymbal up- it really breathes now. Nice wash, and I dig the rivets.

Nothing short of amazing! God bless you brother!!!

This is fascinating I need some time stamps for this: Original 2:25 After first lathe 4:59 Finished - without rivets 10:38 What an amazing job you did! It’s like a more open version of a K light ride, and moves similarly.

You did an amazing job on this!

Good job...I just saw the before and after by Tim....Amazing.

This was fascinating. Took a cheap-sounding clangy gong and gave it such jazzy delicacy Preferred it before the rivets but i get why you included them

Great result with the modification, both with or without the rivets. I find the whole subject fascinating, forming a hook to control the sound, shapes, weights, bells, etc... it really makes me look at my cymbals in a different light. Thank you for sharing some of your expertise, Timothy... I look forward to your next post.

Fascinating topic, great job, GREAT explanation, i subscribed-

I love what you are doing. Man that cymbal sounds great. You sold me, I would love a custom one.

Wow you really did a great job with that cymbal. You took the nasty ovtertones out. Love the crash, attack with quick fade, and the ride, low wash with great stick definition even right after the crash. Great job.

WOW! What a transformation this is! The final product sounds like an old K from the 50's or 60's, not all K's were good but this cymbal here is awesome.

Amazing content, so much more detail and insight than those factory tour videos.. and I’ve actually toured the Zildjian factory in person 😄

Great work

Great job, buddy!

Great video - very educational and inspiring. Makes me want to send my A-Zildjian medium ride to you to work your magic!

When you first showed the "after" I thought you were kidding!! Wow, what an incredible transformation. Excellent craftsmanship! I bought that XS20 ride when they first came out, and what a gong it was!! The XS20 hi hats were also super heavy but sounded surprisingly great.

Beautiful!

Tim does a beautiful job as you can hear in this mod. He made me a 22" that I use all the time and nailed the sound I wanted. He is a great guy too. Very easy to work with. This guy knows his stuff and I highly recommend him.

I have this exact same Sabian ride cymbal which I also picked up for about $50. It's remarkable what you were able to turn this into. Really nice!

Well this is bloody great!

I was sceptical when I first read the video title, but now after watching it I'm totally convinced. Not only the cymbal sounds great as I've also learned some useful things about cymbals. I really liked the sound right after the lathing. One of my favourite cymbals are Istanbul's Traditional Series. The drums sounded well too.

Sounds beautiful

Great job 🥁

AMAZING WORK SIR...!!! 🤩🤩🤩👍👍👍👍👍

Excellent! Very informative. I spy the Riley book on your stand there as well.... Cool!

That's crazy! I love the XS20 cymbals lol But man I really want to send you one of my rides just to do that first initial lathe job you did. I loved that!

That’s amazing !!!

Well done!!!!

Wow, That sounds great

Very awesome video! It would be cool to do a mini series of these and showing the tonal change after each step for hats/crash/ride to see how the lathing and hammering effects it. But i know that would be a crazy amount of work lol Thanks for sharing this journey it was very cool to see!

Yeah Tim, you’re doing great work!

Amazing man!I thought it was an April fools joke at first.

Amazing 🔥🔥🔥🔥

This is perfect example that the chefs is important than material.

What an amazing skill to have.

Great work Tim!!! I really like the sound and play-ability of the ride with the clarity and homogenous sound of the bell! Not sure if this was mentioned, I am interested as to why the placement of the 10 rivets midway between the bell and edge?

Quite impressive!

very nice work. I believe the word you were saying at 9:20 is flange which is pronounced with a softer a sound.

amazing!

Great work bravissimo complimenti dall'ITALIA

Fuckin A Tim! That's kinda astounding. You did some magic there on that baby. I dig it the most without the rivets but with the rivets is also very sweet!

You're really great man, even as a jazz drummer. Greetings from Andy Moehring

Beautiful

This is insane!

It sounds awesome

Timothy idk if you remember me but I had you do a similar thing with 2 stagg b20 rides. Still have them and they are getting even better with time. Super buttery cymbals that turn heads when people see and hear them

Are you kidding me? This sounds SO good dude! This is actually inspiring because now I’ll go find a junk 24” for next to nothing and you can turn it into THIS! Crazy. I actually have a Sabian Big Ugly Apollo 22” that has a weird overtone I don’t like. I bet it would sound amazing with rivets and your expertise

Incredible mod🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Great....impressive

This is cool ❤.

I can't believe that wad a xs 20. Truly Amazing!

It depends too you guys, the XS20 basically got shaped with a hundred ton hydraulic press then lathed. Hammering takes a lot of man hours hand hammering and the cost of running the additional hammering machines in the process beating up their equipment too.. Tim basically adds complexity and what Jazz players need the sound and feel of the cymbal in order for it to work. Furthermore as like what Tim said, it's easier to work with a smaller bell harder to do with an A heavy ride etc.

Great work! As a woodturner, I’ve spent sixteen years facing the headstock of a lathe. Yr technique at the lathe is absolutely text-book-quality. Great fluidity and control to yr movements.

Excellent job, I love the sound, and man you rock the drums like Tim!

Lovely.

Very nice work! Well done! When you were shaving off some material from the cymbal, one question came to my mind : can this bronze "wool" be used for any industrial application? For example manufacturing scouring pads or anything needing thin layers of metal.

I liked the way you made it sound the same as at the beginning, except with rivets.

Awesome.

Amazing! Bravo, and I wish I lived in America!

To add rivets as a "nod" to another cymbal is fantastic. I may have found someone who loves cymbals even more than I do.

Fascinating! Great video, thanks. Of all my drum components I’ve found that cymbals are by far the most subjective sound…✌️🇦🇺

Sounded and looked really good at 5:11 I'm more into my rock tones though and retro looks. Sounded kind of washy at the end but I guess that's jazz? Certainly drastically transformed! Those Sabian XS cymbals are a secret budget gem. I've got a set. I got 20"R 16"C 14"C 10"S and 14"Hats all for £70 on the FaceSpace MarketPlace couldn't say no!

Wow. I've always loved thin cymbals but this is crazy !!!

Johan used to refer to the Sabian XS20 as the perfect blanks for modifying cymbals. This video made me a bit nostalgic for the olden day chats with him. You did a great job on this one. Would be a very fun left side ride.

Wow!

*The **_"shimmering,"_* literally shimmering at that, when "crashed" on, or "rode a little hard," is soooooooo visible in the cymbal, that it almost looks like waves on the ocean, as they "CRASH," onto the beach, then back out to sea!!!! Also, I am glad that you took into consideration the two different stick tips, 1.) Wood & 2.) Nylon!! I am, and have always been, a nylon tipped stick user, and sadly many overlook the fact that both types exist, and are important to the drummer playing!!! 😎🤘🏼

It sounded good out of the box!

Magic.

Master work again! 👏👏👏 I originally commented on this mod before seeing the full video. The XS really wasn't terrible at all. It had the ping of a really crystal like flat. More usable than I thought. It's definitely a product of it's time. Don't be surprised now if you have people sending you XS rides 😏. I think I still prefer the final version, but I do like the round one version a lot. It's a more versatile crash ride. The final version with rivets is more job specific. It has vibe for daaaays!!......super buttery!. You really captured the old K character. Is it maybe a little too dry?. Taking off half the rivets would let it breath a little more?. It would work well in a small jazz combo in a small venue, unless the drums are miked up. You definitely created a special instrument from a cheaper "entry" cymbal.

Your work is great as always. I have a 20" Paiste 3000 I would like to turn into a complex ride. Can you help do this?

impressive

Very good results. I have an identical xs20 ride that has seen pretty much no use since getting my K custom dark ride and now I'm considering trying to modify it similarly to this. I just have never modded a cymbal outside of beating some crappy brass hi hats with a hammer when I was in high school to make a trashy sounding fx cymbal and I don't want to screw up with the xs20 since it was my first decent ride (although I did only pay $35 for it back in 2018).

Amazed. Born and raised in İstanbul, never used anything except the real real K. s ı must say I am impressed. Nothing close of course, but a well done job.

real master

Yeah man

Hey Reverie Drum Co. I love what you do. Do you do any of your own cymbal lines that will mesh well for a rock\country\pop setting? Or just jazz mainly?