D&D 4th Edition: Beholder

Рет қаралды 475,890

16 жыл бұрын

Here we are on the set of 4th Edition.... In today's exclusive interview, we speak with the iconic beholder-and reveal to "B" firsthand his new status as "solo monster"!

Пікірлер: 294

@WojekSiren 15 жыл бұрын

I spit food all over my screen because the beholder said," If I had a copper piece for every paladin I made into a bird feeder". The best line ever!

@Zumvious 5 жыл бұрын

Not Frylock, the Beholder voice was me. :D

@molybdenumrose 7 жыл бұрын

I actually really like the removal of save or die. 4e was more of a mixed bag than people give it credit.

@Micras08 5 жыл бұрын

It really was. Honestly thinking back on what people liked from 3.5e I don't get the criticism of 4e being to mechanics heavy. I prefer 5e and pathfinder myself, but 4e was a decent iteration of the system and I still use a lot of the ideas from it today myself. Most recently in my SWN campaign where I used the sorcerer "thunder jump" ability as inspiration for a mech enemy :P

@DoctorLazers 3 жыл бұрын

4th Edition's only real flaw was being called Dungeons and Dragons. It was technical, miniature strategy/battle game. It had an emphasis on spacing, thinking ahead and pure, mechanical balance. It was fun, but really felt more like a video game than DnD is supposed to. That's just not DnD. In DnD, success should come from creative solutions and daring acts of bravery. Not number crunching and managing cooldowns. If they had called 4th Edition DnD anything else, it probably wouldn't have the bad reputation it does now. Also, just a personal opinion, the art was bad. No, not from a technical level, it was all well drawn. But the design aesthetic was just really lame. It looked like WoW, and that's just not my jam.

@tacky4237 9 ай бұрын

Save or die adds Lethality and actual stakes. Theres a reason OSR is so popular.

@ethanrajczak3041 3 жыл бұрын

I stumbled onto this gem by accident. I love it!

@TransmetSpider 16 жыл бұрын

Top notch stuff! Adam Phillips always delivers!

@lollipopfop9965 7 жыл бұрын

Thats was so cute!!! His eye is red from allergies.

@SatyreIkon 15 жыл бұрын

Awesome voice for the Beholder :)

@tabletopgamingwithwolfphototec 2 жыл бұрын

😊 i always enjoy watching these .

@Phoenix10k 14 жыл бұрын

@1finalfantasyplayer You should look into Pathfinder. All the guys that got their walking papers from Wizards when they started building 4E went to Paizo Games and kept 3.5 alive. They fixed a ton of things, gave the game a new universe, and changed the way that certain classes manifest their abilities.

@Kyman102 16 жыл бұрын

Why yes, this and the Gnome/Tiefling video are animated by Adam Phillips. Also, awsome video. Makes me laugh each time.

@ayolark 16 жыл бұрын

That was fantastic!

@NekkoTheOdd 16 жыл бұрын

I might not be upgrading but man these videos are great!

@Verixus113 15 жыл бұрын

My group switched to 4th edition and we're really enjoying it. You should try it, before you dismiss it.

@NecroEX083 13 жыл бұрын

@LeftoverJedi They've always pretty much been the iconic 'boss monster' for mid level parties.

@Delliserer 11 жыл бұрын

I appreciate your using a polite tone. Thanks^^ Now, speaking about the game. What i'm saying is that while here in 4th i feel like everyone can do what i do - most powers, or feats, aside from utility powers, just give little numerical bonuses to next attacks - in 3th a warrior could reach Manyshot and hit multiple enemies at the same time, a mage had no chance apart from unbalanced builds. That feels really different from "you have bonus when you hit more enemies(controller)" or [continued]

@MrJibaku 16 жыл бұрын

I started to DM a 4e game with our group of 6 two weeks ago. I like it a lot, the games where we spent hours rule laywering are gone, now we play D&D, not Ace Attorney Rule Lawyer. When the game was done we all agreed we just had more fun. If your group is having a blast with 4e< then stick with it. If you aren't or haven't played D&D in a while, check it out. Flaming those who like 4e is quite possibly even more nerdy then playing D&D in the first place.

@Masterofmind999 12 жыл бұрын

2 is my favorite. But, I love 3.5's variations of race and class.

@bloodsling 15 жыл бұрын

woo hoo +1 flametongue! great sword

@meghanmcminn4062 9 жыл бұрын

Adam Philips is the best animator evah!

@JaggyTheJaguar 15 жыл бұрын

That was pretty funny! It's good hearing that Dungeons and Dragons still exists today!

@surferdog666 16 жыл бұрын

LOL! That was great, Adam!

@monkeyslapper65 12 жыл бұрын

Iam a barbarian RAWR

@MST3KCROWT 16 жыл бұрын

Here here. We can still enjoy the vids.

@spaceninja7687 6 жыл бұрын

I remember these.

@MrJibaku 16 жыл бұрын

It's awesome we played again last Sunday and everyone had a blast. Gaining something every level as well as getting magical items quickly really keep people interested in their characters.

@JacintoQuesnel 16 жыл бұрын

Excellent animation... hilarious!.

@Zakon673 12 жыл бұрын

I'm not referring to being able to get really high diplomacy or bluff or whatever, although I did play an elf bard once who had a natural +15 to both of those skills by level 5. What I'm talking about is things like Glibness and Beguiling Influence allowing you to roll Yes on any kind of conversation check.

@kellystone84 14 жыл бұрын

You are so right about that. After playing 4th for a year and a half i feel....icky!

@Arrakeen10191 15 жыл бұрын

Please more of this

@DeathmanElf 16 жыл бұрын

Hilarious ***** In Fact Beholder is one of my favorite monsters [not same for my gaming group :P]

@Delliserer 11 жыл бұрын

No need to reinvent the wheel, actually. You make quite a good point about the psionic powers, they are actually one of the classes which is different from all others. And that's exactly what we wanted... they should have thought about something like that for all classes. Something that makes them unique, the feeling that another class can't do that thing. As you can see, it's not like you reinvent the wheel every time you use a psionic power. The rule's written there, you use it!^^

@elgatochurro 5 жыл бұрын

Play warlock in 5e then

@CatCORViN 15 жыл бұрын

GREAT! Thank you much for this add's and greets from a german female gamer, born 1961. ( I drive a Neverwinter server now since 5 years called CHATEAU ROISSY, kategory: social, world for adult fantasy rolegame and adventures)

@Psyberdream 14 жыл бұрын

Kinda what I thought as far as the balancing. And yeah action points do much the same thing in D20 Modern ( If youve ever looked at it) Though why your DM would give up stat loss and level drains baffles me. There has to be some "risk" or element of "danger" to the characters. Heck stat loss and level drains are sometimes the only way to keep fighters from disarming every trap with hitpoints. lol Thanks for the feedback :)

@headbandit64 16 жыл бұрын

A save against petrification would be fortitude, same with the disintigrate

@Android2137 13 жыл бұрын

Mr. Interviewer (I believe his name is Mike) is very dedicated to his job.

@BeyondApathy 12 жыл бұрын

HAHA! 4th ed is coming to an end and I couldn't be happier!

@Sadrx 16 жыл бұрын

GOLDEN!

@hatespopani4 14 жыл бұрын

oh my god.. who make these awesome videos??

@Ninja1Ninja2 12 жыл бұрын

Damn, that reporter is dedicated.

@Domanese 14 жыл бұрын

Paladin: CRAP! A BEHOLDER!!! *stoned*

@mostlyharmless6x7 15 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!! Finally someone else who thinks the same thing.

@Delliserer 11 жыл бұрын

That means that while in the 3th edition the only ones who could petrify someone - as made sense - or teleport someone from a position to another - were the spellcasters. On the other hand, what made fighter classes unique were things like Spring Step, Cleave, Manyshot, etc... which made all fighter different from each other. Try building a warrior with rapid shot, focused weapon (bow), manyshot and those things or building it with Two handed weapon focus, Improved Critical and the such.

@w007 16 жыл бұрын

Was mostly agreeing :3 I'm in agreement with everything you said except the save or dies, while it's not totally horrific as people like to describe it, a save or die that ends badly can be annoying for people that just have crappy roll luck.

@Eothr 12 жыл бұрын

@LeximusMaximus THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMON SENSE! THUMBS UP!

@Verixus113 15 жыл бұрын

4th edition is interesting in that it's far more tactically oriented. Not to mention, every class has a ton of special abilities, not having fighters just sit there and roll attack, then roll damage dice. For example, my Paladin has an ability called Staggering Smite that hits for 2x weapon damage + strength mod and knocks the opponent back a number of squares equal to my wisdom mod, which is 5 squares, or 25 feet. Thus is why it's far more tactical.

@DoomVampire 16 жыл бұрын

Nice!! good job people, I would like to see more videos like this, I don't really like 4th ed, I stick to 3.5 plus my own home-rules.

@Nefferduat 13 жыл бұрын

If I had a copper peice for every paladin I turned into a bird feeder.

@midianallmighty 15 жыл бұрын

"I'm only doin' one take." LOL!

@Delliserer 11 жыл бұрын

[2] "you have bonuses while making opportunity attacks and defending[defender]". The fact that he couldn't do what I did, told the classes apart. Made them feel absolutely different. Here in 4th, there *are* some feature like those, but are much less than in 3th and of lesser magnitude. They often result in numerical bonuses while doing something even another class can do. That's not a differentiation, that's specialization.

@TheMathKing 16 жыл бұрын

it's because rpgs usually are in mideval based settings, and everything is ancient. Imperial fits perfectly.

@TronixGuy93 16 жыл бұрын

Does anybody know how many total cartoons were (or are) being made in this series? So far I've only seen 3.

@bloodsling 15 жыл бұрын

man so many great times playing the old 1st and 2nd edition modules,my characters are currently in the middle of G3,a D&D classic..I'd much rather have a handful of dice,a few sheets of graph paper and a pencil..then stare at my monitor playing some mmorpg,actual human interaction..wow..we've almost regressed in our past times lol

@Delliserer 11 жыл бұрын

[3] For the matter of identical powers, i actually said they are very similar. For instance, take a warrior at will power and a rogue at will power, Sure strike and Piercing strike respectively. They both do 1W times damage, the only difference being the first has a +2 at the attack roll. That didn't feel really different. As for class features, they actually should make characters feel different, yet they don't. [Continues]

@Shenordak 12 жыл бұрын

Pathfinder for the win. We don't even need beholders to be cool... we keep telling ourselves :)

@bassman1973 16 жыл бұрын

There are 4 at the moment but the 4th one isn't on youtube yet. Just check the Wizards of the Coast website en search for The Red Dragon's Interview.

@doomblackdragon 11 жыл бұрын

I do agree. I also hated how games makers always tend to make classes like dagger rogue more powerful then a 2handed weapon class. Hello it a sword that 6 - 9 feet long. It will cut a rogue in half with a single swing before they can even get in to range to use their daggers. Also when has a dagger ever been kill a person in platemail. They had to wear chain leather and cloth type armors under plate. Chain was to protect the leather from from the plate. Cloth to stop the leather from chafing.

@gunttoo 14 жыл бұрын

I was kinda glad when they decided to simplify 3rd edition rules. I thought it was over complicated and not user friendly. Even though they might have gone bit overboard with the whole 'balance' issues, it's user and DM friendly. Which is more than I can say about the 3rd ed.

@seriouslyWeird 14 жыл бұрын

who makes these videos originally?

@Gobbygiblet 4 жыл бұрын

The voice of the Beholder reminds me of Keith David

@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 15 жыл бұрын

Amen brudda.

@RegdarKhrast 15 жыл бұрын

I think it's mostly with how the wizard can do much, much better solo against a fighter than should be possible without actually working towards being a battlemage of sorts I think, can't remember cause it's been like more than 3 month's since I played any 4th ed. but time away from the edition was how the bad points my friend pointed came to light for me. Thank you for respecting it, I respect your opinion as well dude.

@Psyberdream 14 жыл бұрын

Well I can only answer for myself. I was grumpy about thrd edition coming out simply for the reason of I had to buy more books. I like the D20 system, it's not perfect but it's something you can pick up and feel comfy with in a single evening. So it does it's job. But to call it D&D to me is like comparing Battletech to Mechwarrior Dark Age. hehe As far as the differences go.. wow. I don't think I could even come close in the 67 characters I have left. I'll continue

@Delliserer 11 жыл бұрын

On the other hand the same things in D&D 4th, when you're lucky, give you a +2 to your next shot if you shoot while upside down holding a candle burning your nose. Wow. That's really exciting, compared to cleaving through my enemies when i kill them in one hit 'till there's no one left. My wizard in 4th edition cries out loud every time i see there's no real difference between SPELLS and powers of, say, a warrior.

@imdiiiirt 14 жыл бұрын

lol, awesome... beholders rule

@Droogie128 13 жыл бұрын

@dorain1 Ravenloft is the campaign setting for 2011. It was announced at Gencon.

@Phelan666 6 жыл бұрын

Frylock?

@sneakyllama 16 жыл бұрын

I think they're making an internet database that u can subscribe to. You'll be able to access the ebook versions of all of them as long as u subscribe. Plus, you get all kinds of maps and adventures too I guess. I haven't checked it in a while so I could be wrong. Plus i heard it is going to be simpler to play.

@The66Monkey 16 жыл бұрын

what ever edition is the best this video is funny!

@kalenics123 5 жыл бұрын

NOSTALGIA BOIS

@jogiff 14 жыл бұрын

That would explain why there's a feat called "Coke is friggin' delicious and you should buy some." I thought that was suspicious.

@leaha401 13 жыл бұрын

did the bitey castle/ brakenwood guy do this? I think his name is adam philips?

@Psyberdream 14 жыл бұрын

Hope all that helps and please pardon my typos, it's kinda late :)

@MegatronYES 13 жыл бұрын

@Slyboogy07 good to see other DMs that like. Pay attention to the game.

@TheBerserk86 15 жыл бұрын

ohhhh.... floating XP....

@Delliserer 11 жыл бұрын

Healing from a paladin you can use three times. Then welcome, pious warrior with no difference from a warrior. That's way different from having (like in 3rd) a complete set of clerical spells of your own. When i cast a spell in 3rd, i obtained unique effects, obtainable only that way. Now, when i cast a spell (which is a power...) i just use an "attack" that's very similar to the other people's. Not necessarily identical - just feels very similar.

@headbandit64 16 жыл бұрын

It is a decision that will change your life irrevocibly for the better, trust me

@supremeobliterator 14 жыл бұрын

My group holds fast to 3.5. I think it's balanced enough with still room for Role Play. I know a guy who still prefers 2cond.

@kilroy987 4 жыл бұрын

I swear, therefore I'm hip.

@JFACfan16 15 жыл бұрын

SO TRUE!!! BARDS RULE!!!

@Beiki 15 жыл бұрын

All Gnomes will burn in the coming fire storm

@magicringgirl 16 жыл бұрын

OMG THAT WAS THE FUNNIEST THING EVER!!

@Spoolooni 13 жыл бұрын

beholder is in magicka too haha

@Martyhero 15 жыл бұрын

Oh, entirely fair statement, I am being a picky bastard about it. As for things like the dire flail (and its even more ludicrous cousin, the gyrspike), to me they're saying that WotC isn't trying especially hard in being creative and figures the fanbase is willing to swallow anything they feed it. But you make a good point, and I'm now starting to wonder what 3rd Ed rules with 2nd Ed fluff would be like... definite possibilities...

@w007 16 жыл бұрын

And playing down people that don't like your favorite edition is nerdy too :x

@andrewrawlings5220 9 жыл бұрын

It already was able to take a party alone (It's a Beholder!) and 4th ed nerfed it so badly (Daze one person rather than Anti-Magic cone, WTF?).

@frankg2790 8 жыл бұрын

+Andrew Rawlings It can still disintegrate you.

@dillon2130 6 жыл бұрын

anti magic sorta isn't a thing because 4rth ed requires you have magic item if it could turn your equipment off by LOOKING at you it'd be impossible to kill

@elgatochurro 5 жыл бұрын

@@dillon2130 turn off the magic

@kellystone84 14 жыл бұрын

4.0 is the ultimate in min-maxing. Action points pretty much gets anyone out of hot water and the only damage you take is hit points. No more level loss or stat loss makes it weak and simplified. The characters are pretty much one and the same due to all of the so-called balance. My rogue did equal damage to the barbarian in the group even when he did not have combat advantage. To make a long story short they did make it simple...I feel like it should be called Dungeons and Sesame street.

@NecroEX083 13 жыл бұрын

>implying beholders couldn't take on entire parties in 3.x

@AbyssalRook 12 жыл бұрын

@refsocrd1 People left D&D because of an optional update...Brilliance incarnate.

@psychogoreman198 5 жыл бұрын

Fucking brilliant!!

@City-Hunter 12 жыл бұрын

3.5 had something iconic... lol

@azraelmk3 15 жыл бұрын

4th ed is good for new players since there's SOME similarities, and it's much easier to get used to...though you'll be sorely prepared for 3.5 spell system...

@CodySnow 13 жыл бұрын

Hmm Christopher Perkins as the Owl Bear Wrangler...must pay well.

@FretboardToAsh 15 жыл бұрын

lol these things are friggin genious

@quizzlie 15 жыл бұрын

All I've ever found there is death. DEATH!

@nusokukitarra7973 10 жыл бұрын

Pathfinder Dominates, 3.5 is alright, 2nd edition is too damn complicated, then it has to be, I know the edition too well.

@Symbolis 15 жыл бұрын

Calm down, chief. Barbarian's coming. I find it amusing, because now fans of 3rd know how fans of 2nd felt when 3rd came out. :P

@locorules 16 жыл бұрын

2E is the way to go for playing D&D, it´s challenging and you really learn to cherish magical items if you were lucky enough to get one. our cleric once got a Helm of brilliance, which in a later battle missed a saving throw against fire and got the whole party wiped out!!! WHere has that gone?? The chaos of being a Wild Mage is also gone!!! Being a mage in previous editions used to be a challenge, now everyone can use one. They claim it´s balanced, I call it dumbed down