Dad Is SICKENED By Killer Son's Confession

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9 ай бұрын

In today's true crime documentary, we're covering the case of Micaela Costanzo and analyzing it from an educational legal and psychological perspective.

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@jacquelineleblanc8598
@jacquelineleblanc8598 Ай бұрын
Did some research and Toni was denied parole again in 2024- thank god.
@user-wg1oj8lv9m
@user-wg1oj8lv9m Ай бұрын
Thank you, i was trying to look this up last night but couldn’t find anything except her being denied in 2021
@JazminexxNicole
@JazminexxNicole Ай бұрын
The comment I was looking for
@MIKELEE86
@MIKELEE86 Ай бұрын
THATS AWESOME DENY HER MUTLIPLE TIMES...I KNEW IT WASNT JAVIER FIRST OFF WE HISPANICS LOVE OUR BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMEN AND WOULD NEVER OUT THEM IN HARMS WAY FACTS...
@wondertwin13
@wondertwin13 Ай бұрын
Do you know when she will be eligible for another parole hearing?
@THC-Tea
@THC-Tea Ай бұрын
​​@@MIKELEE86You should love all women and not just because they are beautiful but because they are people. love them like sisters except ur wife
@vwabi
@vwabi 9 ай бұрын
That mining worker that noticed a random set of tracks in the desert and decided to follow it deserves a medal. God knows how many of us wouldn't have given it a second thought and kept driving, and Micaela would probably never have been found.
@jamesgornall5731
@jamesgornall5731 9 ай бұрын
Totally and those tracks would be gone after a little while
@ghosthunter0404
@ghosthunter0404 9 ай бұрын
Then again if it was private land makes sense someone would check to see who is on the land that shouldn't be
@Becki545
@Becki545 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@lynnlynn9124
@lynnlynn9124 9 ай бұрын
​@@ghosthunter0404I agree. I don't know if I'd follow them, but I would probably notice them because I'm always cautious about possibly interrupting someone who is up to no good . I would be worried that the someone would still be there and I wouldn't investigate unless I had another person with me.
@Cybernaut76
@Cybernaut76 9 ай бұрын
@@lynnlynn9124 Good point. The mining worker was either brave or fool. I am glad nothing happened.
@candacebayes
@candacebayes 2 ай бұрын
Kody’s dad telling him that Micaelas family needs answers and telling him to tell the truth despite that being his own son is so real. That’s a real parent.
@AntLeonardi01
@AntLeonardi01 Ай бұрын
I don’t know, I think I would’ve told my kid to flee the country. Helping with the police confession feels like a betrayal. Especially since it turns out Toni was the actual killer.
@blade-icewood
@blade-icewood Ай бұрын
@@AntLeonardi01 This is about murder man lmao. If your family murders someone or helps with the burial, please don't help cover it up.
@GeneralRection1997
@GeneralRection1997 Ай бұрын
@@AntLeonardi01 you let them get away with it once, they will try again.
@AntLeonardi01
@AntLeonardi01 Ай бұрын
@@GeneralRection1997 So you'd let your son go to jail FOR LIFE? to the point where you help the police get a confession? All because a jealous girl (who has the chance of parole unlike him just for being female btw) seduced him into helping her murder? No fuck that I'm loyal to my family. Any chance I could smuggle him to Europe and get new papers I'd take it instantly.
@GeneralRection1997
@GeneralRection1997 Ай бұрын
@@AntLeonardi01 you make a decision like that on your own. If you are convinced to murder for that reason, you are messed up in the head and have a probability of murdering for a much bigger reason
@ImThe5thKing
@ImThe5thKing Ай бұрын
I don't cry easily but hearing that dad sobbing when asking his son "What did you do?" almost got me. I couldn't imagine being in his position.
@KitKat2742
@KitKat2742 4 күн бұрын
Right!? That fathers voice on that recording was the sound of pure and utter heartbreak and unimaginable pain. That was definitely hard to listen to, because the emotion was so raw and unfiltered.
@dade-murphy
@dade-murphy 9 ай бұрын
It is absolutely insane to me that checking the school surveillance footage was basically the LAST thing the cops did.
@dreampsi2
@dreampsi2 9 ай бұрын
yeah when they said that after 2 days they got footage to see if they missed anything I was shocked they had not done that yet.
@Heyoudummy
@Heyoudummy 9 ай бұрын
Same
@hyrule_hamm
@hyrule_hamm 9 ай бұрын
​@@dreampsi2.
@jalyntan3044
@jalyntan3044 9 ай бұрын
I assumed they needed probable cause to get a warrant for the footage since I know theres stricter rules/protections for school seecurity cameras in some states
@johnnytimestamp8224
@johnnytimestamp8224 9 ай бұрын
She was 16 dude wtf @@markstone1619
@sstamey4
@sstamey4 5 ай бұрын
he got off work and looked for her until 2am, I hope he finds peace in his life
@innileliluvsan
@innileliluvsan 3 ай бұрын
right :(. he loved her. 😮.!. n possibility. she wanted to get back together with kody.
@EmeraldView
@EmeraldView 3 ай бұрын
Oh stop! You gonna tell me this cute angular white boy is the guilty party and this slow-sounding Mexican is innocent! If Donald Trump has taught me ONE thing, it's who to KNOW is the culprit in crimes.
@jaudi1017
@jaudi1017 3 ай бұрын
Vgs
@alabama.worley
@alabama.worley 3 ай бұрын
​@@innileliluvsanDid you even watch the video? Kody was literally stalking her, kidnapped her, gaslit his questionable gf into believing that somehow this criminal behavior was M's indication of intimate interest in HIM (zip ties and all), then killed her specifically because she rejected him. Try to keep up, will you?
@knownpleasurez
@knownpleasurez 3 ай бұрын
@@innileliluvsan lmfao did you even watch the video
@sapphosgirlfriend
@sapphosgirlfriend 3 ай бұрын
Her boyfriend is so sweet!!!! I wanna give him a hug. He looked for her for hours after a long tiring shift ❤
@cainesy7913
@cainesy7913 22 күн бұрын
Not to sound mean but who in the world wouldn't leave work to look for a missing loved one?
@madisondaniel412
@madisondaniel412 22 күн бұрын
@@cainesy7913 he was already at work so i imagine as soon as he realized she hadn't gotten in contact with any friends after work when he could be on his phone he went looking
@CP-ll6qg
@CP-ll6qg 15 күн бұрын
​@@cainesy7913remember that they had no way of knowing she was missing in a serious way until some time passed--I imagine very few employers would take well to someone who ran off every time they didn't get a text from their girlfriend for a few hours, because most of the time, the person is just fine. It's hindsight that tells us otherwise.
@kaitlynbrown1850
@kaitlynbrown1850 13 күн бұрын
@@cainesy7913dude he was a teenager not thinking anything was seriously wrong. Remember she had ran away before
@kutiipie13
@kutiipie13 3 күн бұрын
⁠@@kaitlynbrown1850exactly…. Ppl say the craziest things on here I swear🙄.. these are kids.. and as you mentioned, she had ran away before. He probably didn’t think it was that serious
@grendul4497
@grendul4497 4 ай бұрын
As a retired police officer trained in the REID technique, I spend my golden years very much enjoying these videos. First, Javier is a damn good kid and I can see it. There was absolutely no attempt at deception in any of the footage. He is caring, honest, and responsible. Toni is an absolute dishonest individual whose clear obsession of Kody definitely builds the motive for 1st degree murder. Additionally, whenever she says "kinda", the following statement is a lie. She uses "kinda" to be non specific about details in her statement. I'm surprised that interviewers didn't take the opportunity to dig down whenever she used that, major red flag, term. Kody, another liar, would give confirmation looks whenever he was lying. His truth telling style during the interview was looking at his hands, but when he lied, he would make strong eye contact with the interviewer for confirmation to see if they were buying what he was selling.
@empress-iveemporium9255
@empress-iveemporium9255 2 ай бұрын
Ohhh u should do something in true crime on you tube with your skills .id sign up!
@dionicio24
@dionicio24 Ай бұрын
I love when you guys comment on these videos it’s just nice to see how you analyzed it as you watch a video analyzing something. It’s like extra learning lol idk how to explain it
@Webehooking
@Webehooking Ай бұрын
Can I send you a video of my wife telling me what she bought on a Sunday and you can tell me if she telling the truth or not hahahaha lmao just want to know if it really was on sale.
@konstantinospetrakis2418
@konstantinospetrakis2418 Ай бұрын
Would love to have more feedback like this from retired officers on such cases.Thanks for your input , sir.
@prez4pres329
@prez4pres329 21 күн бұрын
You know the Reid technique was invented by a police officer during an interrogation and he made him confess to a crime he didn't commit lol obviously these guys did it. But wild about the techniques origins
@hali_55
@hali_55 9 ай бұрын
It’s kind of crazy how you can instantly tell when someone’s being completely honest. Javier seems like a good kid.
@TimApple.
@TimApple. 9 ай бұрын
NO "AND THEN"
@hali_55
@hali_55 9 ай бұрын
@@TimApple. LMAO right 😂😂😂
@mattjack3983
@mattjack3983 9 ай бұрын
Yeah it's pretty obvious that Javier is a good kid, and it was easy to tell right away that he didn't have anything to do with it.
@heezypeasy8611
@heezypeasy8611 9 ай бұрын
I feel so sad for Javier. He knew Mickey so well that he knew something was wrong. Poor guy.
@Charge11
@Charge11 9 ай бұрын
Having a rock solid alibi helps too
@ItsOnlyMeAgain
@ItsOnlyMeAgain 5 ай бұрын
Javier really was so sweet when he asked for planes and search parties. He a good solid kid. I wish him well in life.
@msmulligan
@msmulligan 2 ай бұрын
He really stood out as such a good kid. He deserves good things.
@kashigata
@kashigata Ай бұрын
I agree. He was very sweet and innocent sounding.
@Jenna-talia
@Jenna-talia Ай бұрын
He really cared. I hope he got some counseling to help work through such a traumatic event. Losing someone you care about is really hard, especially when it's in such a horrific way
@Timrock2355
@Timrock2355 Ай бұрын
let’s also mention that he had to find out she was basically planning on dumping/cheating on him
@tessaelto1472
@tessaelto1472 Ай бұрын
@@Timrock2355for real. no shade to her at all but he showed a lot of maturity and love for her by looking at the big picture and knowing that it wasn't the most important aspect of the situation. I really hope he's thriving and living a great life
@levis_hoe69
@levis_hoe69 4 ай бұрын
I want to hug Javier so bad like from the very beginning you could just tell he was one of those kids that is just nice to everyone. He looks so anxious and it honestly is heartbreaking
@taz2874
@taz2874 3 ай бұрын
I just looked it up and found out Toni is up for parole again next month. Hopefully the parole board makes the right decision and keeps her locked up.
@pfcdunford1
@pfcdunford1 2 ай бұрын
it tells you in the video her next parole is May 2024
@kamehousetv8173
@kamehousetv8173 2 ай бұрын
@@pfcdunford1 thats what he is saying
@pfcdunford1
@pfcdunford1 2 ай бұрын
@@kamehousetv8173 I know but he didn't need to look it up he just had to watch the end of the video.
@kamehousetv8173
@kamehousetv8173 2 ай бұрын
@@pfcdunford1 ah yes, you are right
@MamaDeadHead
@MamaDeadHead 2 ай бұрын
I just looked her up on the DOC website and it says her next parole hearing is 2028, so it appears she wasn't granted parole.
@thisfoolplaysgames2847
@thisfoolplaysgames2847 8 ай бұрын
As a functional autistic adult, these videos make me realize I seem suspicious as hell when being totally honest.
@ascendingneet2263
@ascendingneet2263 7 ай бұрын
I feel for you cause I think I used to be more that way when I was younger, though I'm sure I still have my moments
@AstralAnubes
@AstralAnubes 7 ай бұрын
Honestly even your average Joe would seem suspicious just because of how stressful that situation would be for most people especially being suspected as murder
@Blind_Bear
@Blind_Bear 7 ай бұрын
IKR HAHAHHAHA
@zerieth6620
@zerieth6620 7 ай бұрын
Bruce Rivers has reacted to one of these videos before. There's a reason psyconomy isn't admissible in court, and it's that it's all bullshit. If the dude protested his innocence this channel would be like, "see? He protests to much so he's guilty." Hindsight is 20/20
@shovelguy5390
@shovelguy5390 7 ай бұрын
Real
@joshowawood1786
@joshowawood1786 9 ай бұрын
The fact that Kody and Toni really expect us to believe Micaela was so attached to Kody, after Javier said in the beginning she kept telling Kody to leave her alone, is just sick.
@Poeticfloetic
@Poeticfloetic 9 ай бұрын
*attached
@haji818721
@haji818721 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, a girl would never tell her boyfriend one thing and do something else. Never happens.
@smidgen
@smidgen 9 ай бұрын
@@haji818721 why cape for a murderer lmao... a cheating one at that
@5h4d0w5l1f3
@5h4d0w5l1f3 9 ай бұрын
​@@haji818721It's funny in a sad way that you're projecting your own personal issues with women onto a dead teen.
@BasedOverflow
@BasedOverflow 9 ай бұрын
@@haji818721 You're one of those creepy weirdos that truly believe in "she's saying no but she means yes" aren't you?
@thunder9236
@thunder9236 4 ай бұрын
This whole case should have been solved way sooner. Its horrible to hear this murderer being like "Yeah she's dead, but no one cares about how I feel.." I cant imagine being his father in that situation. Knowing he's horrible and doesn't care.. it would break my heart.
@catherinedavis1241
@catherinedavis1241 4 ай бұрын
She's going up before the parole board in two months! Yikes!
@vanessalopez8597
@vanessalopez8597 Ай бұрын
@@catherinedavis1241she got denied thank God
@dunwoodie27
@dunwoodie27 Ай бұрын
That father’s cry broke me. I feel so so horrible for the father and Micaela and her family. I hope Javier is okay, I wish we had an update on him.
@Gravy_Master
@Gravy_Master 7 ай бұрын
I wish Javier nothing but the absolute best in life. He seems like a very genuinely nice kid.
@TopClips7777
@TopClips7777 5 ай бұрын
gaaaaaay
@MCDLXXXVIII_
@MCDLXXXVIII_ 5 ай бұрын
he should get with kody’s fiancé lmfaoo
@bosoxer4eva
@bosoxer4eva 5 ай бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing when watching his interview. Seems like a fine young man.
@yolandasalazar2741
@yolandasalazar2741 5 ай бұрын
​@@bosoxer4evahe is a great person 😊
@angshusarma8331
@angshusarma8331 5 ай бұрын
​@@TopClips7777You think everyone's of your kind.
@kodiak9840
@kodiak9840 6 ай бұрын
Her boyfriend is a real solid kid. School, work, a girlfriend, and is super helpful and respectful towards authorities. Good man.
@putthetiming3016
@putthetiming3016 6 ай бұрын
"a girlfriend" well, that's a shame
@filip.3118
@filip.3118 6 ай бұрын
@@putthetiming3016 lol
@amandaj8028
@amandaj8028 6 ай бұрын
tf?
@SA-pi3zm
@SA-pi3zm 6 ай бұрын
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i see what you’re saying, but kids like him should be studying not working, sad that we live in a society where kids need to help make ends meat
@kodiak9840
@kodiak9840 6 ай бұрын
@@SA-pi3zm With state of the public school system, coupled with the mess of indoctrination and debt that higher education is, children today receive better experience and practical education from a job as opposed to school. The real sad part is that this is the case more today than it has been in the entire modern era.
@lisahanson527
@lisahanson527 2 ай бұрын
I listen to these horrible stories so much I'm quite convinced that I'll never trust another person ever again.
@watergirl929
@watergirl929 2 ай бұрын
God right. Especially relationship wise. They always start off looking like the perfect loving couples. But you just never know. Someone who may look like your soulmate at first could turn out to be your murderer. It’s scary because there’s no way to tell.
@zayzay5274
@zayzay5274 27 күн бұрын
Since watching EWU I look at people sideways everyday now 🤦🏾‍♀️
@taylorrenfro4258
@taylorrenfro4258 22 күн бұрын
As you shouldn't lol
@user-vd6jv3hd4h
@user-vd6jv3hd4h 20 күн бұрын
Hola Yo igual no confío en absolutamente nadie nadie. Es triste llegar a ese punto. Pero la sociedad. Nos está mostrando cada día. Lo terrible que escuchamos y vemos cada día 😢😢😢😢😢. Es un horror da pánico
@johncspine2787
@johncspine2787 17 күн бұрын
I live in salt lake, Wendover is a very dry, alien, lonely and dusty place, the casinos on the border lend a desperate atmosphere..to end up in a shallow grave there, just incomprehensible..
@mikesrdtrukr
@mikesrdtrukr Ай бұрын
The difference in sentencing between 2 equally evil people is mind blowing!
@libraosrs4200
@libraosrs4200 9 ай бұрын
It’s honestly refreshing to hear a parent hold their criminal child responsible, all too often you hear of parents enabling their murderer child and coddling them. I loved hearing his father say “and what about michaela’s decisions?”
@joehogan3691
@joehogan3691 9 ай бұрын
He was way to compassionate towards his son..
@saysay8920
@saysay8920 9 ай бұрын
@@joehogan3691 Can you blame him? It's ingrained into us as humans. It must of been heartbreaking for his father to go through and I respect him for not giving in and acceping what his son did.
@BeepBeepJohnny
@BeepBeepJohnny 9 ай бұрын
Kody's reaction to that was so typical for that type of person. It enraged him to not have the pity focus on him that he turned aggressive, demanding and making threats to regain control of the narrative. I can only imagine how exhausted his father must've felt by that time. So sick of a son who thinks only of himself and his feelings. I couldn't handle having a kid like that. He'd be in therapy so fast long before it ever got to this point.
@2wodadsfgc
@2wodadsfgc 9 ай бұрын
@@joehogan3691 it's still his son at the end of the day.
@davidvalensi8616
@davidvalensi8616 9 ай бұрын
He's showing what a normal thought process is, something his son is devoid of. He has to protect the rest of the family, he's probably figured out at this point he never really knew his son, and to let justice take it's course.
@ZessXXify
@ZessXXify 9 ай бұрын
I’m glad you included his prison phone calls, as hard as they were to listen to. It paints the perfect picture of who Kody really is: a whiny, self-absorbed, manipulative demon.
@davidng8870
@davidng8870 9 ай бұрын
God, he is the worst. I could hardly bear to listen to his whiny lying confession. We could all read between the lines and understand that he lured her out there and beat and stabbed her to death. Just tell the truth for once in your life, you might even get a couple of years off for cooperation Feel sorry for his dad too who sounds like a decent guy
@cw6621
@cw6621 9 ай бұрын
Why in the world hadn't they checked school surveillance very first thing?! That was literally the last place she was seen alive 🤦‍♀️ Wouldn't the staff look? Just in case? To save their own butts legally? I don't get it.
@CruzCruz-nw7fi
@CruzCruz-nw7fi 9 ай бұрын
His confession has to be the most pathetic thing I ever heard 😮
@kamelhaj6850
@kamelhaj6850 9 ай бұрын
Yup! It was all about how good a person he was and how evil his former girlfriend was. Almost like he was doing us all a favor by "offing" her. And I believe zero about how tormented he feels about dong this. @@CruzCruz-nw7fi
@Charlie1993ohio
@Charlie1993ohio 9 ай бұрын
the interview is like 1 day after what are you talking about
@SplashJohn
@SplashJohn Ай бұрын
Toni's demeanor during her confession was more disturbing to me than Kody's. I have no idea how much of Kody's emotion was real or feigned, but even if it was feigned, at least he felt the need to feign emotion. Toni is the type who would be a camp guard at Auschwitz. It creeped me out how cheerfully she explained her murderous actions by saying, "I wasn't thinking."
@GamerModz123
@GamerModz123 18 күн бұрын
Someone didn't learn a thing from WW2. My guy everyone had a capacity for evil, that's what makes it so insidious. The more virtuous you think you are the more likely you would be the first to break and do something terrible if pushed.
@lindam9018
@lindam9018 17 күн бұрын
She was so bizarre. She just recited all that like it was nothing.
@hisaonakai9489
@hisaonakai9489 13 күн бұрын
True but how the f is it legal for an attorney to record and use a call form someone seeking legal assistance? this is ridicilous
@frankiecharles5420
@frankiecharles5420 11 күн бұрын
@@hisaonakai9489I know that therapists sometime record patients and those records have to be confidential. I’m assuming that had it been a normal consolation, the recording would have stayed private and there would be nothing illegal about having that recording. Lawyer-client confidentiality does not apply to criminal confessions. Lawyers have to report those kinds of things or they can lose their license. It’s similar to how doctors can bypass HIPPA and contact law enforcement if they think someone is in danger. Or how therapist will report clients who express interest in harming themselves or others. Privacy is important but they still mandated reporters.
@Name-vp3ds
@Name-vp3ds 10 күн бұрын
​@@hisaonakai9489 what?? If someone called an attorney and said they murdered and wanted counsel, how the hell would that be illegal/immoral to turn it over to the police? Just because someone is an attorney doesn't mean talking to them is completely confidential.
@amandaskywalker7331
@amandaskywalker7331 2 ай бұрын
Wow, Kody's dad seems really decent. He wanted his son to take responsibility and do what's right. He didn't say "stop talking now, I'm getting a lawyer, we're not cooperating etc." He had complete empathy for what Micaela's family were going through and how they deserved the truth. I don't know why Kody is so messed up but his dad is a decent guy.
@lindam9018
@lindam9018 17 күн бұрын
Apparently Cody's father is the one who drove Toni to his son's lawyer's office to record that confession. He really did the best he could to get justice for Micaela's family.
@CW-xf1li
@CW-xf1li 9 ай бұрын
I have a lot of respect for Kodys father. A lot of people don't empathize with the victims of their chikdrens crimes and only think of themselves. He did the right thing by helping Micaelas family get the truth from his son. You can love your child AND do the right thing as a fellow human being.
@katiemcdavid4124
@katiemcdavid4124 9 ай бұрын
Hopefully his bunk buddies will not have any mercy on him.😅😅
@JustAGirlWhoLovesCats
@JustAGirlWhoLovesCats 9 ай бұрын
I came to the comments to say the same thing. As a true crime enthusiast, I don't think I've ever seen this. It's almost always the opposite of this, with parents claiming their child is innocent or even assisting them with the crime. His parents are truly amazing people worthy of much respect.
@susanyoung1600
@susanyoung1600 9 ай бұрын
Listening to his Dad just ripped my heart out. It seems like he did his best but with some people something is just broken. No amount of talking, listening or attention is enough. Nothing is their fault and if its obvious that it is, all the attention deserves to be on them because of how THEY feel. If he hadn't fostered a relationship with his son, he wouldn't have confessed so quick.
@brittdawgggarfarf1882
@brittdawgggarfarf1882 9 ай бұрын
@@katiemcdavid4124wishing rape on anybody is fucked up and gross
@Kayla-rd5jd
@Kayla-rd5jd 9 ай бұрын
my heart always breaks for the parents of the kids who do such heinous things when you can tell the parents don’t deny their child’s guilt, encourage their child’s confession & help the investigation when they can. i can’t imagine being in his situation. obviously my heart breaks even more for that poor girl and her loved ones but there’s also room to feel for the parents who do the right thing when their child is likely guilty or obviously guilty. it would be absolutely sickening to have such an evil child who could do something so disturbing and heinous then continues to feel bad for himself even during the confession. hope cody’s having a horrible time in prison
@Me-pq8ep
@Me-pq8ep 9 ай бұрын
The fact that his father acknowledged the victim and her family.. 🥺. I love that for him. Speaks volumes about his heart.
@johnsmith-ug5tp
@johnsmith-ug5tp 9 ай бұрын
Lets not go overboard. He should have told off his POS son and turned his back on him for what he did! He would have been dead to me upon seeing all the evidence against him and his confession.
@griffincoyne6459
@griffincoyne6459 9 ай бұрын
@@johnsmith-ug5tpit’s easy for us to say what we would do in the situation. The truth is we don’t know what our initial reaction would be.
@jamestarrou3685
@jamestarrou3685 9 ай бұрын
@@johnsmith-ug5tp love can be complicated and difficult. The whole situation is just unfair. Everyone is a victim in their own capacity.
@johnsmith-ug5tp
@johnsmith-ug5tp 9 ай бұрын
I do! I'm not a wishy washy gray guy. I live in a black and white world. @@griffincoyne6459
@johnsmith-ug5tp
@johnsmith-ug5tp 9 ай бұрын
Not in my right and wrong world. I could be deeply in love with a woman and upon finding she cheated on me, she would be dead to me from that point forward. The same would apply to an offspring committing such an evil act. @@jamestarrou3685
@kellycuckoo3143
@kellycuckoo3143 Ай бұрын
It’s really awesome to see the comments about Javier. I completely agree. I hope he is well, and has found peace. My heart breaks for everyone involved.
@finthegeek
@finthegeek 3 ай бұрын
I feel so sorry for his dad. I am 100% sure his dad made mistakes but I’m so devastated for him. He did absolutely everything right. The truth must out but didn’t abandon him. Poor guy
@shoosh222
@shoosh222 9 ай бұрын
Javier is a great kid. Not only did he help police understand Micaela’s daily schedule and habits, but even her moods and thought processes. You could tell he really was concerned about her and wanted to help however he could.
@eh5872
@eh5872 9 ай бұрын
Yea great kid. You don’t know him at all but I’m sure he’s a great kid. He seemed real broke up
@ScarlettFawx
@ScarlettFawx 9 ай бұрын
​@KeyDx7 .....they haven't said anything about Javier being involved. They're saying that even though we do not know him personally he seems like a good person.
@ScarlettFawx
@ScarlettFawx 9 ай бұрын
​@KeyDx7 only one jumping to conclusions is you.
@lolmanyeah1
@lolmanyeah1 9 ай бұрын
​@daniellebusam4839 no, you are bad at reading subtext. "He was real broke up" was sarcastic. The dude was poking jabs at Javier because he wasn't crying and mocking the dude complimenting Javier.
@lolmanyeah1
@lolmanyeah1 9 ай бұрын
​@@ScarlettFawxeh5872's comment went completely over your head. I hope english isn't your native language
@AllAboutNat
@AllAboutNat 9 ай бұрын
They totally planned that murder. She should have had the same sentence. The fact she’s emotionless explaining everything tells it’s own story!
@keithselden2096
@keithselden2096 9 ай бұрын
What do you mean premeditated? I always carry around zip ties, knives, shovels, and lighter fluid wherever I go!
@lDavidl
@lDavidl 9 ай бұрын
@@keithselden2096 I actually do have all of that in my car. The lighter fluid is primarily for my Dremel VersaTip and VersaFlame. :)
@katarinatibai8396
@katarinatibai8396 9 ай бұрын
​@@keithselden2096😂😂😂💀💀💀 - So, you are the best comedian or an opportunistic predator 😅
@saysay8920
@saysay8920 9 ай бұрын
@@keithselden2096 I mean having a fastener and a knife on hand is actually pretty universally helpful. Now lighter fluid and shovels are a bit more suspicious unless you go outdooring alot.
@nyancat8828
@nyancat8828 9 ай бұрын
@@saysay8920 I can understand the lighter fluid and shovel in case of survival situations (I have a shovel in my trunk at all times just in case) but based on their stupidity it seems like it was solely just for misuse as I doubt they'd put those in a borrowed car without bad intentions...
@miamiinfinity5625
@miamiinfinity5625 Ай бұрын
Damn I teared up when Javier honestly asked why the cops weren’t doing more…..
@anastasiafed1972
@anastasiafed1972 4 ай бұрын
The way his dad never said “I love you too” on the phone with him
@purplepixiejade
@purplepixiejade 6 ай бұрын
I hope Toni's parole is denied again. She needs to stay in jail.
@jeromedavis8575
@jeromedavis8575 4 ай бұрын
Same with Cody too.
@JoshF848
@JoshF848 4 ай бұрын
@@jeromedavis8575 He's never getting out, which is definitely necessary. After hearing how he spoke to his dad, any family of his would be in danger if he was ever free.
@HashiramaSells
@HashiramaSells 4 ай бұрын
Yea more than likely she manipulated kody by saying if he loves her they have to kill micaela or shed leave him. Jealous and insecure and being manipulative it is most likely the real scenario. And it probably was brought up those months before her murder when javier claimed kody tried getting in touch w her... Sad that jealousy can do that. They hadnt been together in years and both kody and micaela had moved on to "better" relationships... Mainly better in micaelas case...
@percx2617
@percx2617 4 ай бұрын
toni lowkey bad when shes out im picking up ong
@justjust5580
@justjust5580 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@percx2617bro what? Girl looking like she didn’t get the part for Cindy Lou Who
@rgs_goat-xb7wp
@rgs_goat-xb7wp 9 ай бұрын
As soon as I heard Javier talking I knew he was innocent. He was giving up all the information he knew, even told the police officer that he thought she was unsafe, something murderers usually don't do. He sounded very honest and I felt so bad for him because you can tell he really cares about her
@hideki6577
@hideki6577 9 ай бұрын
Same
@lorenx6650
@lorenx6650 8 ай бұрын
You can really see it in his eyes too
@stunseed8385
@stunseed8385 8 ай бұрын
his rock solid alibi as well. If he was guilty he wouldn't disclose information what can easily be disproved. You know he is innocent the moment he tells his exact whereabouts.
@motherlessgoat72
@motherlessgoat72 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, he seems like a very sweet kid. I hope everyone involved in this case is doing okay in their healing journey. I can't imagine the pain of loss they're still feeling to this day.
@rodriguesthiago8
@rodriguesthiago8 8 ай бұрын
Yes
@theglizz5797
@theglizz5797 28 күн бұрын
Kody crying on the phone with his dad was just so funny😂😂😂 i couldn't stop laughing "dad you didn't ask about my feelings" what a loser😂
@LordOfThePancakes
@LordOfThePancakes 22 күн бұрын
Don’t be so hard on him😆 Clearly his family doesn’t appreciate him. They don’t even bother asking him about *his* feelings. 😖😫 Clearly he has to bear the weight of this tragedy every single day and doesn’t wanna be in jail 😫🤧🤧🤧🤧🙀
@chrisbilling
@chrisbilling Ай бұрын
One thing ive noticed in multiple interviews is a guilty suspect who was the last to see the victim, will claim that the last time they saw the victim was in passing with another person and give a very ambiguous description of the person
@herovill9629
@herovill9629 9 ай бұрын
The fact that Tony was the only one who had evidence that she planned the killing, and yet she got an easier sentence is… disgusting.
@lindasmith6072
@lindasmith6072 9 ай бұрын
Yeah it's the 'females' we need to worry about mostly of course, as they do commit most violent crimes and murders worldwide.
@prot07ype87
@prot07ype87 9 ай бұрын
@@HAL-dm1eh Female privilege.
@Jthom88
@Jthom88 9 ай бұрын
​@@natasha675Wow what an inappropriate non-sequitur... it's quite well documented that women get lighter sentences. Women are far less likely to get convicted, and if they are convicted they are far more likely than men to get a lighter sentence. Your point seems ridiculous here, and reactionary.
@jakejacobson2999
@jakejacobson2999 9 ай бұрын
@@natasha675show us a case where a rapist got a slap on the wrist. What’re your pronouns? Sexist/libtard?
@StardustNxva
@StardustNxva 9 ай бұрын
What did we learn here? Don’t murder your ex for your toxic high school relationship
@Eyewonder3210
@Eyewonder3210 9 ай бұрын
Finally a parent who tried to get his son to face the truth without giving him a lame excuse.
@ganymeade5151
@ganymeade5151 9 ай бұрын
LOL. Absolutely.
@betha.6279
@betha.6279 9 ай бұрын
His dad is enabler. His son has always been a thief, liar and a danger to others, but the parents let him off.
@zacharymarkham5232
@zacharymarkham5232 9 ай бұрын
​@betha.6279 lol how do you know?
@zacharymarkham5232
@zacharymarkham5232 9 ай бұрын
​@@betha.6279he moved out because he didn't want to follow their rules
@Mike-es2yg
@Mike-es2yg 9 ай бұрын
Aka a WHITE parent! Amazing how it's not all "he didn't do NUFFIN!"
@daveh322
@daveh322 2 ай бұрын
That makes NO sense. I want to get back with my old boyfriend so I want him and his new girlfriend to drive out to gravel pits to talk about it. Like..............what?
@MrCharlesEldredge
@MrCharlesEldredge 22 күн бұрын
Sooooo right. Makes zero sense. And that the two of them wanted to "talk" with her. Makes no sense. She wasn't looking to get back with him! It was premeditated murder and most probably instigated by Toni
@infantjones
@infantjones 18 күн бұрын
It's so frustrating that the lie they chose and stuck to was that she, who was terrified of him, wanted to get back together with him out of nowhere despite years of stalking, past abuse, and her current relationship. One last attempt to disrespect her.
@ImmaPandaRawr
@ImmaPandaRawr 20 күн бұрын
His phone call to his dad was a clear indication of his narcissism. He was only crying about himself. How he was having nightmares. Even his dad tried to remind him about Mickeala and he just got pissed about it.
@katw3070
@katw3070 9 ай бұрын
Toni should never get out of prison. She’s already proven she’s capable of cold-blooded murder and if given the chance, she would do it again. She’s beyond creepy.
@MortgageGirl7
@MortgageGirl7 9 ай бұрын
I agree she has the look of an evil character in a movie.
@jeanbeans7926
@jeanbeans7926 9 ай бұрын
I know, what were they thinking? Cuz she showed no remorse or emotion at all, yes, she's very scary indeed.
@PJL7095
@PJL7095 9 ай бұрын
Good riddance. What a cold blooded moron
@oldmummaroo1576
@oldmummaroo1576 9 ай бұрын
@@MortgageGirl7 I so thought that too, a very bad horror movie, she so reminded me of the crazy woman out of the 1999's movie 'Misery' Also I couldn't help thinking when she said 'Mum comes out today'... I'm thinking 'Out of where?
@XbnsVvV
@XbnsVvV 9 ай бұрын
Yes i feel like she was the demon within the situation that controlled everyone and she was jealous of micaela. Dumb ass cody got played like a fiddle. God bless that poor girls soul and her family.
@nickhanke1
@nickhanke1 9 ай бұрын
Kodys dad seems like a seriously stand up man. His plea to his own son to do what's right for the victim while also not trying to sidestep anything, even saying what he's done is heinous. We see many parents try to do the exact opposite. You can tell how much it's killing him as a dad though
@defaultname7685
@defaultname7685 9 ай бұрын
Really makes you wonder if he was always like this or it just took a crisis like this to sober him up. I really, really wonder about how good of parents these people really were. I'm sure there are some outliers - like parents that were great and their kid was fucked up by circumstances beyond their control - but its got to be in the vast, vast minority.
@becauseican5821
@becauseican5821 9 ай бұрын
@@defaultname7685they judged his character not his parenting.
@davidoneil9975
@davidoneil9975 9 ай бұрын
I actually think Kody wouldn't have been involved in killing Micaela if not for Toni's presence. If he was alone with Micaela, she would still be alive.
@defaultname7685
@defaultname7685 9 ай бұрын
I don't think there's a difference between the two @@becauseican5821
@Mattyxx08
@Mattyxx08 9 ай бұрын
@@davidoneil9975💯
@NotMe42554
@NotMe42554 3 ай бұрын
bingeing these videos has made me very good at knowing when someone is lying
@SharonStoner.
@SharonStoner. Ай бұрын
Not credible.. he's just over analyzing and assumptions
@Freezorgium
@Freezorgium 20 күн бұрын
Don't be fooled. All this stuff is very good and well in hindsight but most of these "indicators" totally suck.
@UltimaJC
@UltimaJC 3 ай бұрын
His sob story during his confession was so annoying. he doesn't have any right to cry.
@cewe2003
@cewe2003 9 ай бұрын
The way Toni is just nonchalantly telling the lawyer what happened is bone chilling. She shows no emotion whatsoever. She sounds like a true psychopath. I’m glad she told on herself. I don’t even know how she got the possibility of parole after this senseless crime. May Mikayla R.I.P.
@FlackinA2
@FlackinA2 9 ай бұрын
It makes no sense to me either! She should have been given life without the chance of parole!
@katiejensen5547
@katiejensen5547 9 ай бұрын
SHE IS! He is horrible but she had way more pull than they ever talk about. She hated that girl with a passion.
@chich2486
@chich2486 9 ай бұрын
The fact that she has a other trial next year is crazy this girl needs to stay locked up. She’s a danger to society.
@criticalmoss
@criticalmoss 9 ай бұрын
​@katiejensen5547 where do you see that? I'm genuinely confused. What they read in her diaries didn't indicate hatred or planning at all it was angsty. Definitely not malicious. Idk I see no "pull". Kody is pretty transparently unhinged on his own but I just wanted to see what you were looking at.
@fredt1983
@fredt1983 9 ай бұрын
Considering how over reported this was, how you can see/hear a 100 different videos and tv shows, and read the entire court room testimony, there's really no good reason Toni got a slap on the wrist in comparison. It's more like legal leap holes and "Hey, they both said he gave her a concussion first, so what if she took his knife and slit her throat. The diary stuff is circumstantial! "
@davemieze9021
@davemieze9021 9 ай бұрын
You almost immediately can tell that Javier is being truthful and is a sensitive, kind young man. I can see why Micaela liked him. What a shame that some people in the world are so sick.
@walterdiaz7315
@walterdiaz7315 9 ай бұрын
Yea she disrespected him a lot. You don’t go talking with your ex boyfriend & riding around with him. That was definitely not right, that young man deserved better.
@movimientoinformativo5314
@movimientoinformativo5314 9 ай бұрын
@@walterdiaz7315 Yeah but that is what happens with the "good boys"
@palpitations00
@palpitations00 9 ай бұрын
@@movimientoinformativo5314They were teenagers and one is now dead i don’t think this is the time for this
@TylerDurden-td2yg
@TylerDurden-td2yg 9 ай бұрын
Agree, you´ve immediately got a strong feeling that he is sincere in his statements.
@owenmullinger2264
@owenmullinger2264 9 ай бұрын
@@walterdiaz7315 did you not watch the whole video? Toni definitely orchestrated the whole thing.
@Moonlas4468
@Moonlas4468 Ай бұрын
Man, that poor girl. She was trying to hard to gain her awareness and ground and she still could’ve been saved 🤦🏻‍♀️
@tokudayo
@tokudayo Ай бұрын
Cant believed he continued lying after his dad broke down 😒
@charlieevergreen3514
@charlieevergreen3514 9 ай бұрын
The father’s voice in their first conversation, at the station... Man, he is in an awful spot: loves his son, knows he’s broken, having to set the boundary that says “no escape from your horrifying crime”, possibly even somewhat scared of him, and just begging him to do the right thing. That’s heartbreaking. That’s real character, too. Huge respect to the dad for pushing him to face the consequences.
@eh5872
@eh5872 9 ай бұрын
Yea real character and a wonderful man. He raised a good kid. I applaud Kody dad for all the accountability he gave Kody growing up. What a dad and great man
@BosisofSweden
@BosisofSweden 9 ай бұрын
Before judging that man too hard maybe you should think a bit about the society you all live in. You love the roll of alpha, masculine men and feminine, petite women, like Barbie and Ken. The males are supposed to be tough, aggressive and go-getters, to take what they want and support their wives and children. Women are supposed to give their men and children what they need, support them, adore them and take care of every single need they have, clean the house, nurture the children and pamper their hard working husbands. So, caring, nurturing men are looked upon as gay or weak and tough females are looked upon as dominant or lesbians. This is the reality your children grows up in and what do you think happens when teenage boys don't get what they want? They take it or throw a fit. Kody was violent and unbalanced. He was also violent and involved with a toxic girl who's whole existence was to be a girlfriend of Kody, an accesoir. Not a self reliant and secure young woman. This is probably more what made Kody go along with the heinous crime than anything else. Kody's dad spent all his day at work, seeing his son maybe in the evening and weekends. How much of all this do you actually think he knew about? You are the only country I know about that have all this "teenage drama" where young people think you can swipe the problems away by killing a friend. It doesn't happen anywhere else! Maybe it is time for you all to vote progressive, start paying taxes used to create a society where both parents work a normal 6-8 hour day, with paid and mandatory vacation and stuff the rest of us already have. Then maybe you will have parents available to the kids while they grow up so that you can constantly give them love and affection along with discipline and care. @@eh5872
@hansolo631
@hansolo631 9 ай бұрын
@@eh5872 I know modern youth in their quest to blame everyone else on earth and avoid all accountability put everything on the parents, but you can be a good parent and raise an idiot. I am such an example, and I know many others. Unfortunately, your peers matter and you are forced to spend more time with them, no matter how devoted the parent.
@charlieevergreen3514
@charlieevergreen3514 9 ай бұрын
@@eh5872 It’s very likely that Kody has some neurological dysfunction that makes him an aggressive sociopath, and that problem can’t be fixed by a parent’s advice or discipline. If you ever have the misfortune to encounter a person like this, and try to “fix” them, you will experience the truth of the futility of that effort. Blaming the father for his son’s behavior is not valid. There’s no suggestion that the father abused him, or otherwise pushed him into this criminality or hostility. Consider this: Are your parents responsible for all of your behavior? Are you nothing more than an extension of your parents? Do you have your own mind, making your own decisions, acting as an independent person? Do you blame your parents for all of your own mistakes, or worse, blame them for your crimes? Other parents in this situation have attempted to hide their children’s crimes, and protect sociopaths from the law, while subjecting society to future murders. Kody’s father did the opposite, to hold Kody accountable, and to keep him from killing anyone else. So yes, he deserves credit, for seeing the situation for the catastrophe is was, and urging Kody to make the morally correct decision.
@P1xelJunK
@P1xelJunK 9 ай бұрын
​@@charlieevergreen3514facts! Well put.
@katelynnlewis2310
@katelynnlewis2310 6 ай бұрын
Javier immediately stepping up with questions like “what’re you doing like do you have helicopters?” Is just telling that he is honest
@user-xe6gy9ow7j
@user-xe6gy9ow7j 5 ай бұрын
That's what I thought when he asked that question
@VK.x
@VK.x 4 ай бұрын
🎯 instead of asking about himself etc He’s a good young gent & feel this made him even more grounded. I wish him all the best in life 🙏🫶🧿
@gabrielst828
@gabrielst828 4 ай бұрын
I actually thought that her body was dumped somewhere outside of town and Javier was worried they would find her body that way. I was initially thinking he was the killer
@starfox300
@starfox300 3 ай бұрын
hes an idiot
@starfox300
@starfox300 3 ай бұрын
he's a m*ron
@douglaslang2218
@douglaslang2218 3 ай бұрын
It’s clear to me that he had mentioned Michaela before and thus Toni’s crazy fear of jealousy drove her to persuade him to kill her. They got the sentence they deserved… a lifetime a part.
@PettyLabelle
@PettyLabelle 4 ай бұрын
The fact that he was so in tune with her emotions at such a young age . He is going to grow up to be a great guy .
@sammieh6543
@sammieh6543 9 ай бұрын
You can tell how politely Javier was trying to stress during his interview that this was not normal behavior. He knew they would look at her past runaway and assume that was all this was, and he was trying so hard to make it clear that if this was in fact the case, she would have told someone. Poor kid
@chloebelle4526
@chloebelle4526 9 ай бұрын
Toni’s cool and collected confession sounded like she was reading off a grocery list rather than committing a brutally violent murder. She’s dead behind the eyes - no way should that sociopath ever be released. 😳
@gill8779
@gill8779 9 ай бұрын
I agree, she looked evil with no emotion. Her voice never changed while she was stating her part in it.
@sgs261
@sgs261 9 ай бұрын
Completely emotionless, didn't even feign emotion at what would be the suitable parts. An inexperienced sociopath is a pure one!
@Haaalo079
@Haaalo079 9 ай бұрын
thought the same thing i think they gave the wrong persoon the heavy sentence.
@crystalheart1186
@crystalheart1186 9 ай бұрын
Half way through when Toni first comes on. I came to the comments and you confirmed for me early, her vibe is grotesque. The facial expressions, everything. I bet she thinks she’s doing a good job of concealing herself there. But no, a heart of black right there. I got to “helping him move the heavy metals” why didn’t he ask you then?! 🤮
@otallono
@otallono 9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately they're about to let her out here shortly, in 2024. Sad.
@SharStylesCurls
@SharStylesCurls 3 ай бұрын
“my son may be a lot of things but he’s not a thief” 😂😂😂damn what is he then
@capyisnotemo
@capyisnotemo 18 күн бұрын
Wasnt that his ex friends mom?
@therealdebbiecakes
@therealdebbiecakes Ай бұрын
this makes me grateful I was a nerdy shy kid my whole school life and no boys were jealous over me
@rt66vintage16
@rt66vintage16 Күн бұрын
High school age is so dramatic, and I'm glad to be far away from it now.
@NunyaBizness2.0
@NunyaBizness2.0 9 ай бұрын
You can tell Javier really cares for her. So sad to go through such trauma at a young age. I hope he’s ok. And my deepest condolences to him and the victim’s family. So young. So tragic.
@lizzyred3677
@lizzyred3677 9 ай бұрын
yeah i was just thinking he seems very kind and genuine
@AcidOllie
@AcidOllie 9 ай бұрын
Yeah he's a sweet guy.
@TheEldritchStrom
@TheEldritchStrom 9 ай бұрын
Of all these interviews I've watched yeah, he just seemed honestly like the most genuine up front person and you could really tell the situation was eating him up.
@aksheee
@aksheee 9 ай бұрын
his expressions and the way he'd correct himself, try to give out as much info as he knew- even if it put him on the suspect list. he's a good kid
@c1utchcase
@c1utchcase 9 ай бұрын
Yea that part really struck me. Seems like a nice kid. So sad.
@blulikefriendlyhit1213
@blulikefriendlyhit1213 9 ай бұрын
It's pretty amazing that the police keeps telling us "Call IMMEDIATELY if you think someone is missing, the first hours are the most important" and then when Micaela's mother calls, they don't start searching for her until the day after. Nice job guys, knew that I could count on you :D
@lindajones7219
@lindajones7219 9 ай бұрын
It is the first 3 half hours that need a quick response . But of course the Police have no end of teenagers leaving home . or staying at a friends without saying . but its no excuse a beautiful young girl goes missing they should act as a just in case . however by time she was reported missing she would have been dead . I agree I do believe the girl hated her Micalia so much she persuaded Kody to kill her clearly it was planned with the plastic wrist bands and the shovel it may have been in the car , however you just dont FIND Plastic Cuffs like that , they wanted her dead , as it said . there may have been arguement ,s but they took her to the desert to kill the poor girl . What she must have suffered and the fear and horror for her must have been unimaginable . Safe in Gods arms . May God give her family help and love , and both parents of the two killers
@pjsalcedo4983
@pjsalcedo4983 9 ай бұрын
@@justlooking777they didn’t look at the surveillance till they found her body. Sounds like they were still thinking she had run away. Unfortunately a lot of teens get classified as run aways.
@AaaaNinja
@AaaaNinja 9 ай бұрын
Yet if the mother had still called sooner the search woulda started that many hours sooner even if it took a day after the call for it to start lol.
@AaaaNinja
@AaaaNinja 9 ай бұрын
@@justlooking777But they didn't have anything to look for until after a bunch of interviews. They would need a warrant to view the videos and you can't just list vague stuff on the warrant.
@blulikefriendlyhit1213
@blulikefriendlyhit1213 9 ай бұрын
It's like the police isn't worried about actually protecting people and instead waits to recover the body. You are not investigators. You are the protectors of the citizen. Your job is to protect the citizen, not wait until they are found dead
@angelikahahn3624
@angelikahahn3624 3 ай бұрын
Kody talked about "Everything i have done fore you.....!" to Toni in their prison phone call. He ment the murder. He murdered Mickey for her.
@DGiovanni
@DGiovanni 4 ай бұрын
"Reserved demeanor" is a very nice way of describing Toni.
@Phoenix-mh5eo
@Phoenix-mh5eo 9 ай бұрын
Massive props to Kody's dad for actually confronting his son and enforcing how immoral his behavior was and encouraging him to talk and tell the truth. When the narrator said they left his father alone in the room with him, I rolled my eyes, figuring his father was gonna tell him to shut up and that there was an attorney on their way right now. I feel awful for Kody's father, because you can tell he's absolutely torn up about this and he sounds like a good dad. RIP Micaela, you are missed.
@chaddad1488
@chaddad1488 9 ай бұрын
I would never tell my kids to confess, just my instinct as a dad. He doesn't know for sure at that point it was true anyway.
@scheezy
@scheezy 9 ай бұрын
@@chaddad1488 He feels it deep down. Parents know these things.
@emkoa6975
@emkoa6975 9 ай бұрын
​@chaddad1488 he sees the pain the other parents are going through and xan understand what it would be like to actually lose him forever instead of for a "sort time"
@protectyourself33
@protectyourself33 9 ай бұрын
​@@chaddad1488if your child kills your whole family, I'll make sure to recommend he stays quiet and gets a lawyer. But if he kills my family, daddy getting him a lawyer and trying to protect him from the consequences of his actions will be the least of his concerns. You feel welcome to raise little psycopaths if you want. The rest of us will continue to make our children take their medicine. 😉
@chaddad1488
@chaddad1488 9 ай бұрын
@@protectyourself33 We're not talking about if they took out my family, way to change the context though. You wouldn't get the fatherly bond, this dad is a traitor imo. You can't see the difference between taking out your own family, and some classmate? I'll let you think for awhile and imagine why it's different...Bad analogy by you.
@andreykurayev1318
@andreykurayev1318 9 ай бұрын
The fact that Tony got the chance to plead guilty to second degree instead of being sentenced to first degree murder without possibility of parole is disgusting. She was just as involved in the crime if not more than kody and she deserved the max punishment as well.
@RD-mm5fk
@RD-mm5fk 8 ай бұрын
female privilege
@beantown702
@beantown702 8 ай бұрын
Pretty well documented that women don't face the same punishment men do
@paulablack1863
@paulablack1863 8 ай бұрын
Perfectly said and I couldn't agree with u more...
@leanie5234
@leanie5234 8 ай бұрын
Could it have been their ages ? Cody looks to be of legal age...maybe Toni wasn't.
@HenritheHorse
@HenritheHorse 8 ай бұрын
@@leanie5234 Both were 18.
@melonthemelons
@melonthemelons 4 ай бұрын
I wish we could see a follow up with javier, the moment he began speaking i could see his genuine care and it broke my heart knowing how this would end
@etcopsus
@etcopsus 3 ай бұрын
Wow, this video was incredibly gripping from start to finish. The way it delved into the complexities of human behavior and the chilling reality of what happened to Michaela was both haunting and eye-opening. The narrative kept me on the edge of my seat, with each revelation adding another layer of intrigue. The subtle nuances in the interviews and the investigators' astute observations painted a vivid picture of the events leading up to Michaela's tragic demise. It's a testament to the meticulous work of law enforcement and the resilience of a community coming together in the face of such a harrowing ordeal. This video serves as a stark reminder of the darkness that can lurk beneath the surface, but also highlights the importance of justice and closure for those left behind.
@ExploreWithUs
@ExploreWithUs 9 ай бұрын
I just wanted to let you all know that we are doing our best to increase the number of videos we are releasing, while also increasing the quality as we go. We again apologize for the massive watermark, but the thieves who steal our content after so much time and energy is put into the videos leave us little choice. I hope you are enjoying the content and we have so many videos in the pipeline that are ready to go live with exclusive footage, interviews, and more! Stay tuned.
@temarybaltazar
@temarybaltazar 9 ай бұрын
I would appreciate that chief
@alienangel777
@alienangel777 9 ай бұрын
Totally understand. Content thieves are despicable.
@CHQ-DeathLord
@CHQ-DeathLord 9 ай бұрын
do what you gotta do, we will keep watching cause this is the best channel for this type of content 😊
@darkmistico
@darkmistico 9 ай бұрын
The watermark is ok bro... dont worry i can barely see it
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy 9 ай бұрын
It is a shame there are content thieves out there, so you have to do what you must. I don't mind your actions at all; just the thieves.
@jackg2630
@jackg2630 9 ай бұрын
It’s therapeutic to listen to javier, it’s amazing how quickly info gets ironed out when you have somebody who has nothing to hide at all.
@MrGFloyd
@MrGFloyd 9 ай бұрын
Why was the call with the attorney recorded?? I’m baffled by that part, he was literally interrogating her like police. Is it a public defender or something bc if it is then i guess it’s true about them being on the same team as police. That’s crazy
@youcancallmeflower8041
@youcancallmeflower8041 9 ай бұрын
@@MrGFloyd It was Kody's lawyer, not hers. Of course they are gonna use whatever info comes out of that to help their client. She, thankfully, was just too stupid to keep her mouth shut.
@MsAmyjoy7802
@MsAmyjoy7802 9 ай бұрын
I love the way he speaks too, too cute. Such a good kid
@stancexpunks
@stancexpunks 9 ай бұрын
@@MsAmyjoy7802 I thought it was cute too. he talks so innocently, kinda like a little kid- inserting mundane, irrelevant details such as he and macaela held hands while walking down the hall as if them holding hands mattered to police 😂 This is in stark contrast to Cody who seems very calculated and everything he says is dishonest and with the purpose of misleading police.
@MsAmyjoy7802
@MsAmyjoy7802 9 ай бұрын
@@stancexpunks exactly, very childlike. He reminded me of how young they were
@GustavoAugustoNanaRosales
@GustavoAugustoNanaRosales 3 ай бұрын
I knew Kodi was a weirdo when he referred to certain kids as Mexis 🤦🏽‍♂️🤣 Bro had more red flags than Morocco
@valoriant
@valoriant 3 ай бұрын
I liked that the investigator treated Javier with respect like an adult, was open to discuss what they were doing to find Micaela.
@JordonTheo
@JordonTheo 9 ай бұрын
I feel bad for little Javier, man. It's such a shame. I can't imagine having somebody you care about...literally your person....taken away from you in such a violating way.
@dadoogie
@dadoogie 8 ай бұрын
Depends how much you believe the 2 murderers about how the victim was still interested in the murderer.
@turkeyman631
@turkeyman631 8 ай бұрын
And then having the murderer try and pin the crime on you.
@CallMeSkinny
@CallMeSkinny 8 ай бұрын
@@dadoogieit was proven that they both were there when she was murdered. Why would she be begging this guy to get back together in front of his girlfriend? They obviously forced her in the car and murdered her. Ridiculous there is always that one creep defending these type of people 💀🤮
@LaSombraa
@LaSombraa 8 ай бұрын
Bro even stripped her nearly topless while trying to discard of her body…. Disgusting
@lupuskonig9
@lupuskonig9 8 ай бұрын
@@CallMeSkinny Defending?
@rinpaisys
@rinpaisys 9 ай бұрын
I haven’t seen any comments specifically noting how chilling it is that Toni, in confessing her part in the murder, self described as not being mad, just kind of frustrated at Micaela. This is someone who so genuinely thinks mild frustration is worth killing over that she can so casually and flippantly talk about it as though she were ordering pizza or chatting at lunch.
@ilb735
@ilb735 9 ай бұрын
Her frustrations had been eliminated / satisfied.
@EerieEidolon
@EerieEidolon 9 ай бұрын
It’s because these days everyone is desensitized and it has greatly skewed their moral judgement. They watch violence in the news and in entertainment daily. It has become acceptable to use vulgar language in normal conversation. Sex and porn are pushed on our children through the media, internet and now at least in some areas through the public school system. This slow drip of filth in our daily lives has allowed most young people to look at violent situations as just another thing that gets posted to the internet.
@velcro-is-a-rip-off
@velcro-is-a-rip-off 9 ай бұрын
She honestly comes across (and speaks as though) she has some mental disabilities, possibly a brain injury or something. No idea. But it is absolutely terrifying, you're right.
@Assimandeli
@Assimandeli 9 ай бұрын
She's probably on the spectrum. Not gonna generalize, but her room and diary entries also give that vibe.
@Nuts_Tanknoodle
@Nuts_Tanknoodle 9 ай бұрын
@@EerieEidolon Such BS. Next you'll be saying playing violent video games makes you want to do violence yourself... Or listening to rock music makes you want to kill people. lol Gimme a break...
@Widderic
@Widderic 16 күн бұрын
Micaela sure is pretty. Toni is hideous. Kody is obviously unintelligent and has anger issues. Javier is an angel. There are no winners in this sad story. Glad to hear she was denied parole again in 2024.
@katiarodriguez600
@katiarodriguez600 3 ай бұрын
Kodys second story saying that Mikaela said she loved him lmao he’s so full of himself 😂
@ILovePIPLs
@ILovePIPLs 9 ай бұрын
Javier was raised right and is a responsible young man. It was apparent he was completely honest with the police officers through his interrogation.
@wannabetrucker7475
@wannabetrucker7475 9 ай бұрын
I'd be a lousy cop, i can never tell when someone is lying. 🙄
@kellidinit3725
@kellidinit3725 9 ай бұрын
And not self absorbed. I found it really impressive that he knew her well enough to know she didn’t hide her feelings. Not every teenage boy would pick up on that.
@adamlangley6033
@adamlangley6033 8 ай бұрын
@@kellidinit3725 i wonder why javier did not help micaela and step to kody to tell him to back off because he was bothering and making his girlfriend uncomfortable?
@nelsonbohanon2190
@nelsonbohanon2190 8 ай бұрын
they wanted him to be guilty so bad
@Ndisikasewe
@Ndisikasewe 8 ай бұрын
@@nelsonbohanon2190I’m glad they found nothing to hang onto !
@AlytheAlleyWay
@AlytheAlleyWay 9 ай бұрын
This case was insane. I didnt think it could get worse! THE WAY TONI WAS NONCHALANTLY EXPLAINING WHAT THEY DID AND DESCRIBING HOW SHE WAS INVOLVED IS SO CHILLING. these videos are so well done, I love this channel
@Glum1964
@Glum1964 9 ай бұрын
Yes, she was so clinical and sounded like she was placing a pizza order. Now I missed the part about why they were allowed to listen to a lawyer speaking with his client? I jumped ahead, did they explain?
@PardonMyHandle
@PardonMyHandle 9 ай бұрын
They didn’t ever mention why. My guess is because he was not her attorney. She was contacting him to see if she could be represented by him. He told her that it depended on what she told him.
@hali_55
@hali_55 9 ай бұрын
she sounded so detached, like she was just giving directions to a stranger on the street not admitting to cold blooded murder
@floppyblanket2587
@floppyblanket2587 9 ай бұрын
Oh man! I was half way through the video when I read your comment. I didn't think Toni had a part in it. lol. Lesson for me: read comments at the end of video. 😂
@matthewjoyner1595
@matthewjoyner1595 9 ай бұрын
They were Kody’s attorneys and they were just getting a witness statement from her. Then she decided to confess. Good thing she did too
@sanjisan1405
@sanjisan1405 17 күн бұрын
okay dude im like 6 mins into this thing i can already tell javier is probably one of those kindest people u just randomly meet i hope i dont eat my words here but i almost feel bad for how nice he seems, i hope he does well in life
@UncleDavesKitchen
@UncleDavesKitchen 3 күн бұрын
At their ages I was still reading comic books and had acne, never considered such things to do to others. So sorry for these families.
@alphamale3643
@alphamale3643 9 ай бұрын
Not speaking to a girl with a boyfriend in school for 3 months, while having a fiance yourself, then randomly calling that girl to ask her to help you move plywood at his home, is like a 99.9% chance that he is the killer, no other details needed.
@blondegiraffe2023
@blondegiraffe2023 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, I thought that was so weird!
@nicholash1278
@nicholash1278 9 ай бұрын
the fiance is the one who orchestrated the murder, kody was just a useful idiot for tony to help her kill michaela.
@stevesand8845
@stevesand8845 9 ай бұрын
I think that it was Toni’s idea to kill her, and she talked him into it, which was easier than he thought….. i just don’t understand why she brutally described to a lawyer all the details?? like “i’m a cold blooded killer will you represent me”
@LoveYouLove1986
@LoveYouLove1986 9 ай бұрын
Right? I immediately clocked that. Like, who calls their ex, who they're on bad terms with, to randomly help move construction supplies? Like dude needed help so bad and had no other options except a girl he hadn't talked to in months? lol
@LoveYouLove1986
@LoveYouLove1986 9 ай бұрын
​​​@@nicholash1278I think they're just pointing out that it was poorly crafted lie on his part, regardless of whose idea the murder was. They obviously didn't make any real effort to coordinate with each other on what to say. "Oh, those texts? Yea, I needed my ex girlfriend to help move some plywood". Just dumb kids. For all her murderous planning, she was not very bright and he was just as dumb going along with it. Violent but brainless, both of them.
@shelllb5419
@shelllb5419 6 ай бұрын
What's insane is she confessed all that with a straight face and smiles.. and is aloud to parole. Shes a psychopath. I hope she gets denied parole for life!! Blessings to Ms. Micaela's family..
@jasonconrad4314
@jasonconrad4314 2 ай бұрын
Just because she is eligible for parole, doesn't mean she will get out of prison. So far she has been denied parole twice. She isn't up again until 2029
@laurellynn8496
@laurellynn8496 4 ай бұрын
Thank you EWU for bringing this to us !
@RichardCrook-kb4bq
@RichardCrook-kb4bq 4 ай бұрын
the best true crime channel by far on KZfaq I would binge watch these if on the TV great channel explore with us
@Beatngu23
@Beatngu23 9 ай бұрын
Javier is a great kid. You can just tell. Hes worried about his friend / girlfriend, hes very honest, he asks the right questions, he goes to work, gets good grades, and takes his girl to the taco truck for lunch, etc. His parents should be very proud of him! Im so sorry for his loss.
@sketchbeaststudios5100
@sketchbeaststudios5100 9 ай бұрын
When they asked him if he had any questions, his mind immediately went to finding his friend and how the police were going about it. Parents def raised a good one.
@peaceiliveby
@peaceiliveby 9 ай бұрын
Yes You ate a great kid ,keep your head straight and sorry for your loss ,stay on the straight and arrow,you will have a good future ahead.....
@SKA343
@SKA343 9 ай бұрын
You knew he was innocent immediately
@gator2955
@gator2955 9 ай бұрын
That dude odd as hell. Creepy one out of the bunch
@narrowpath9491
@narrowpath9491 9 ай бұрын
@@gator2955This says a lot about you i think
@kelknox
@kelknox 9 ай бұрын
Toni should have absolutely got life without parole. The chilling calmness of her retelling the timeline of the murder, admitting that they kicked and punched her as she was trying to get up, the fact that she could tell micaela was incoherent as they beat her, she did everything that Kody did. Her sentence is appalling. For me, Toni was the mastermind/jealous girlfriend who convinced her violent boyfriend that they needed to get rid of her. Kody was so in love with Toni that even when confessing to the crime kept Toni out of it.
@FlackinA2
@FlackinA2 9 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t call it love, more like obsession.
@brandonshaw2120
@brandonshaw2120 9 ай бұрын
Female privilege. It's part of western culture. Women and girls are so used to it that they don't realise that it is happening all day every day.
@savannahstockslager204
@savannahstockslager204 9 ай бұрын
I totally agree, she probably would have gotten it if it wasn't for the plea deal that she earned herself. hopefully they deny her parole again and she actually gets to serve a life sentence
@BGASTORIES
@BGASTORIES 9 ай бұрын
Hey.... she told him to be strong, what more do you want!
@PetterNe
@PetterNe 9 ай бұрын
It's simply female privilege - society is ripe with it!
@paulrollings9606
@paulrollings9606 4 ай бұрын
Shocking. Such an evil duo (Kody and Toni) attacking and killing someone. These two monsters worked together and attacked one person. So messed-up. Found it more shocking and disturbing how Toni remained silent for so long. Fortunately, her calls were recorded and the police discovered her role. To commit such a heinous crime like this, these two need to be locked-up indefinitely.
@maggsbufton1969
@maggsbufton1969 9 ай бұрын
I am SHOCKED that it took the police several days to even request the school surveillance footage! They’d have had their suspect detained and found her sooner!
@lencicollier6492
@lencicollier6492 9 ай бұрын
Yeah… Had it not been for that guy finding those tracks out in the desert… I think the case would’ve gone cold… They had already “scratched” Kody off the “suspect list” after just ONE interview! 👀 Wait!… What?! I didn’t really get a competent feeling from the Investigators…
@jacquelinepanganiban5744
@jacquelinepanganiban5744 9 ай бұрын
i completely agree i was shocked it wasn’t the first thing they did.
@michaelfiori6700
@michaelfiori6700 9 ай бұрын
​@@lencicollier6492it's sad that most missing teens are immediately ruled as rebellious and ran away. But it also depends how white and blonde and rich the parents are. It's actually sad to look up the amount of missing native woman and the very little solved or even started cases.
@supme7558
@supme7558 9 ай бұрын
Its not a rush its better to be accurate
@supme7558
@supme7558 9 ай бұрын
​@@michaelfiori6700oh brother
@Imbatman257
@Imbatman257 7 ай бұрын
Man, hats off to his dad telling him to do the right thing for Micela . RIP
@silentotaku8
@silentotaku8 2 ай бұрын
Toni deserves to be denied parole again, and again, and again.
@curiouslights7111
@curiouslights7111 3 ай бұрын
Let us remember that narcissists are far more common than people with conduct disorder/ASPD, do not possess empathy for others, and tend to be emotional and outburst prone like this kid.
@Adonnus100
@Adonnus100 Ай бұрын
They are all trash. And a few people even have NPD and ASPD together
@dantesos7564
@dantesos7564 8 ай бұрын
The way Kodys father broke... I felt that. He was hurting for that girl. His heart was shattered by his son. My heart goes out to him, his family and Micaelas family. No one should have to go through this. I hope Kody and Toni rot in jail and are miserable everyday they are imprisoned.
@turkeyman631
@turkeyman631 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, just terrible. You can relate to the family with how sad you would be at losing your child, but then realizing his son caused all that pain... Sometimes you can do all the right things raising a kid and have them still turn into this PoS.
@smithwillis7276
@smithwillis7276 8 ай бұрын
That part made me cry
@tcsprynce5748
@tcsprynce5748 8 ай бұрын
@@smithwillis7276yeah hearing his father break got me too
@smithwillis7276
@smithwillis7276 8 ай бұрын
@@tcsprynce5748 forsure bro most definitely Ik what a off relationship is like with your pops and the fact that he's going off him not being there but now it took a crazy situation for him to actually be there ya shits sad forsure
@griddycheese
@griddycheese 8 ай бұрын
The father most likely blames himself
@Randomninja47
@Randomninja47 9 ай бұрын
If Toni ever gets out on parole it'll be awful. She so casually explained the murder and didn't seem to care she took someones life. Even confessing that they had a chance to save her but didn't. Jesus christ.
@user-sj6rm6oq6v
@user-sj6rm6oq6v 9 ай бұрын
Toni was the mastermind behind it all, she wanted Micaela dead and gleefully did it without regret.
@mat5473
@mat5473 9 ай бұрын
I love how her sentence was life with no possibility of parole for 18 years but she's already having parole hearings at 10 years. It's a joke how we treat murderers with kid gloves while drug dealers get 100 year + sentences. Murder should be LIFE no possibility of parole EVER. If you took somebody's life, your life should be over, forever. No second chances just as there weren't any for the victim.
@Randomninja47
@Randomninja47 9 ай бұрын
@@mat5473 It depends on whether it was in self defence or not but I mostly agree with you. Especially if you show no remorse or if you had a plan for it before hand.
@TeamTwiistz
@TeamTwiistz 9 ай бұрын
Also I don't think people realize that Toni must have been feeling powerful and excited over the fact she convinced the guy who she loves to murder her biggest rival against that love (Mickie) with his own hands. Like Kodi basically chose between the two girls, and their (Kodi and Toni) celebration was murdering her (Mickie) together. @@user-sj6rm6oq6v
@standback5806
@standback5806 9 ай бұрын
I still don’t think the truth about the murder was stated by either one. You just don’t cuff a dead body.
@Dimabased
@Dimabased 3 ай бұрын
This editing is IT ❤💯
@Janm-2
@Janm-2 20 күн бұрын
him basically blaming his dad :( his dads “im sorry” was so sad, i hope he knows this isnt his fault
@reginamachamer821
@reginamachamer821 8 ай бұрын
I cant believe Toni got the lesser sentence. Not only does it seem very obvious that SHE was the one who wanted Michaela dead, she seems WAY more cold about the whole thing. When Kody recounted what happened he cried and sniffled and gagged his way through the story. When Toni recounted what happened.. she sounded chipper and emotionless and nonchalant as if she were telling a fictional story. Tbh even a fictional story usually gets more emotion out of a person. Like she does not care at all. She should have gotten life without parole, as well.
@asdfghjklzx74ify
@asdfghjklzx74ify 8 ай бұрын
@TheRoyalWe07I think you missed the point there bud
@MrBl3ki
@MrBl3ki 7 ай бұрын
Women getting reduced sentences for the crimes is unfortunately nothing new.
@atomicwaffle420
@atomicwaffle420 7 ай бұрын
@TheRoyalWe07 when the point completly flies over you're tiny head with a tiny brain.
@mrnygren2
@mrnygren2 7 ай бұрын
I'm sure that Cody did simply do what his girlfriend wanted him to do. Toni was stupid to speak with the lawyer when she could have kept quiet and gotten away.
@hobareyhob
@hobareyhob 7 ай бұрын
She literally has the eyes of a devil. I didn't need to hear her voice, but that also showed how wicked and demonic she was. She is a true evil, and I can't understand how she gets to be free in a few years.
@cherylhuot4436
@cherylhuot4436 9 ай бұрын
I pray Toni never is let out of prison. The idea she was given such a short sentence with parole that soon is outrageous. I think the lies are still deep in this story. So many unanswered questions.
@persephonehades7547
@persephonehades7547 9 ай бұрын
Isn't her sentence still life though?
@neilsun2521
@neilsun2521 9 ай бұрын
She'll be out in 10 years -- women only serve 65% of a man's sentence length, on average.
@jaydock1
@jaydock1 9 ай бұрын
She actually terrifies me. Seems like the type who would absolutely do it again if the opportunity presented itself
@persephonehades7547
@persephonehades7547 9 ай бұрын
@@neilsun2521 But it literally said, "Life with chance of parole." That's still a life sentence even if parole is granted.
@Tomes23
@Tomes23 9 ай бұрын
@@neilsun2521it said her parole was denied. She gets another hearing in May 2024.
@Heblone
@Heblone 27 күн бұрын
The conversation between the son and father truly heartbreaking!
@vladdan4997
@vladdan4997 4 ай бұрын
Javier is such a good boy. Absolutely love him. What a little angel. Shows his parents are good. I am so sorry for ur loss. I feel so bad for them. Poor siblings. Poor parents. Poor girl. Omg.
@growingandshowing559
@growingandshowing559 9 ай бұрын
Aww poor Kody! 🙄 Playing the victim after taking someones life and trying to guilt trip his dad was disgusting.
@kurze3215
@kurze3215 9 ай бұрын
You can tell he’s a master of manipulation so when it didn’t work with Micaela, he couldn’t handle it and restored to the outcome
@Sigmund-Fraud
@Sigmund-Fraud 9 ай бұрын
He is a piece of shit💩 with the iq of a goldfish - I just feel so sorry for his family and Michaela's family this is tragic... The way he described what happened - what he did, just broke my f'king heart. Like, I'm a seasoned youtuber and have watched some crazy f'king shit, but this one hit different. I feel sick. RIP Michaela I've had enough youtube for today... goodnight my friends
@deboraholsen2504
@deboraholsen2504 9 ай бұрын
Guilt tripping his dad! Just another one of the flaws in his character! This young man just doesn’t get it!!
@BuddHound
@BuddHound 8 ай бұрын
Im a Kody
@itsfreddydude
@itsfreddydude 8 ай бұрын
@@BuddHound get help
@daniborn2bwild8
@daniborn2bwild8 9 ай бұрын
Javier is precious. When he asked what they were doing to find her i cried
@neyyattinkaragopan3042
@neyyattinkaragopan3042 8 ай бұрын
Yeah but still the girl wanted the cody guy right , Women ☕
@skeyxc3461
@skeyxc3461 8 ай бұрын
@@neyyattinkaragopan3042it mightve been a lie tho
@ismellupdog
@ismellupdog 8 ай бұрын
​@neyyattinkaragopan3042 I really don't believe that man. Kody changed his story so much and tried to guilt trip his dad, dude is a liar who wants to make himself look good. I'm almost positive there's more to situation, especially with Toni. It's really just the killers word against literally everyone else's opinion of how Mickey felt about Kody... not a good look
@g22hs
@g22hs 8 ай бұрын
​@neyyattinkaragopan3042 I think you missed about half of the video bud. Like everyone around them saying she didn't want to talk to Kody and felt uncomfortable about him contacting her.
@high-bi-password
@high-bi-password 8 ай бұрын
@neyyattinkaragopan3042 The blatant fucking misogyny and victim blaming in this comment disgusts me.
@oh_knee7173
@oh_knee7173 3 ай бұрын
when he asked for planes i started crying he truly cares for her
@louieduke5894
@louieduke5894 3 ай бұрын
Javier seems like such a nice kid. Very sad
@Ploots21
@Ploots21 9 ай бұрын
Kodi’s dad’s plea to his son broke my heart. Too often you see the parents enable and even encourage vile behavior. He knows what his son has done is wrong and it breaks his heart. He seems like a good - albeit - broken man. Just so sad all around 😢
@andiamocclash397
@andiamocclash397 9 ай бұрын
I am not an easy man to break down and tear up, but god damn.. That dad needs to know what a good father he is!
@justacutepieceofshit
@justacutepieceofshit 9 ай бұрын
Yeah that got me too 😔
@american_cosmic
@american_cosmic 9 ай бұрын
@@andiamocclash397 Clearly he wasn't *that* good of a father...
@RikkiIndeed
@RikkiIndeed 9 ай бұрын
@@american_cosmicabsolutely horrible take bro
@american_cosmic
@american_cosmic 9 ай бұрын
@@RikkiIndeed k
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