If I was Minos and I cheated Poseidon out of one heck of a pretty cow, I wouldn't be so happy to go sailing.

So Talus died because he didn’t have wings, but Icarus died because he did have wings.

He was so good at inventing he invented extra names for himself

I think the real moral of the story is “don’t listen to crazy monarchs with a thing for bulls and also maybe don’t push your nephew off a cliff”

I just realized that “monarchfactory” is a playoff of “kingsmill” and I love that

To anyone else that was wondering: the song at the beginning of the video is Love So Sweet: Reborn by Arashi.

"Burning with passion for this pretty cow" There's something about the way you tell the Greek myths that always makes me enjoy watching your versions even if I already know the stories.

Well now I need to know more about tiny Dael going on adventures in the secret tunnels underneath her (performing arts?) school.

Oh dang, that musical bit at the beginning was quality.

My favorite Tumblr interpretation of Icarus struggling against the Sun and Sea is him having a crush on both Apollo and Poseidon.

Something about mythology is that they never pay attention to the small details--like when Odin just drinks a bunch of mead, turns into a bird, and flies away and regurgitates the mead and then they have mead? And not stomach acid and old food and also mead? And how did he *not* run out of string? And, ya know, the whole minotaur thing...and tying a string to an ant?! They're very vague on the logistics. On the other hand, most of the time I don't really want an explanation.

The... existence of the Minotaur is something that haunts me when I’m trying to sleep. Not quite as much as HP Lovecraft’s cat, but it’s up there.

Every now and then my attention wanders over to the mermaid and I find myself going "Ah, the mermaid knife."

I love how Talus/Calus's inventions are so practical, a potter's wheel, a saw. Meanwhile Dedalus is designing fake cows, impossible labyrinths, and functioning human wings thats are super unstable. Makes you wonder what sort of ridiculous, overengineered solution Dedalus had for cutting wood, maybe a pinwheel of axes operated by a hand crank.

The secret is using a string like in the maze :P He was still attached to the maze idea, don't you get it? Hahaha

Another great retelling of the Icarus/Daedalus myth is through two songs by the band Thrice. “The Melting Point of Wax” was written when the band was younger from the POV of Icarus, and captures the excitement of flying and boldness of testing his limits. Their later song “Daedalus” was written when the band members are older, some being fathers themselves now, and tells the story from Daedalus’s POV. It’s a lament about his son’s death, questioning why didn’t he listen to Daedalus’s advice. It’s really cool to see the story told by the same people twice, when they personally connecting with a different character for each version.

"Was but a wee bahby" . . . "Was" . . . Sure. Anyway, there was a series of gamebooks called the Cretan Chronicles where you are the half brother of Theseus, Altheos, trying to find out how your brother died in the Labyrinth. When you finally get to King Minos' court, you can have him tell you the story about the sea shell and the string (which he apparently survives in this version). He leaves out why he was chasing Daedalus or specifically what he did when he caught him, but at the end of his tale, he picks up the shell by the ends of the string and snaps it taut, shattering the shell in your face. The moral of the story, he informs you, is don't get too smart for your own good. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

My mental image of her in the cow box looks exactly like the cows in Minecraft

Back in the dark ages I did a paper in college comparing Daedalus to the doomed builder in Norse mythology. It got a B; I got the impression that this was not the first time my professor had read such a paper. :)

Don't fly to high or you'll burn up in the sun, but don't fly so low your feathers get wet and pull you down. I've heard the myth mentioned as being about hubris. When you add the bit about the water it seems to me more like the beginnings of that famous Athenian virtue moderation. (Shoulda finished the video first before commenting 🤦‍♀️, you had a great take on this!)

Thank you this was a great way to calm down after waking up to a transformer blowing up right by my house and thinking bombs were going off I needed to chill and listen to a great story.

I feel like the proper title of this should be "The Story of Daedalus... and Icarus...I guess..."

That ending freaking killed me Dael lmfao really glad I decided to check this one out, I like most people had no idea just how big a deal Daedalus was besides "Icarus' father"

Greek law basically expects that if you are convicted you will self-exile rather than face the death penalty. They didn't really care if you died, they just didn't want you to hang around anymore. So there doesn't need to be a real "escape" all the Greeks would have just understood the exile as a version of his sentence. The practice was common around the Ancient Mediterranean-- Rome had specific agreements with other cities that they would let ppl go there for exile rather than face the death penalty if they chose to go before sentencing.

“Perdex? That sounds familiar, but I might be making up a name.” This is me, every time I tell a story about anything.

Totally started following your channel years ago when it was only mythology. I’m sorry I don’t watch all the D and D contents, but I will always show up for your mythology tellings.

I CANNOT be the only one who wants to hear more about the tunnels under the school.

"We would have hungered for its touch" 🤣🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏👏

The myths so old it doesn't play into the Olympus Cinematic Universe so much.

The shoulder wiggle rules! It made you look like a caterpillar or butterfly either inchworming or fluttering out of the shot along the bottom of the frame. Make it an institution; we can calculate the particular metamorphic biochemistry later.

The Icarus version of the pride myth fits into a pro-Christian culture. The other story of pride you mentioned legitimizes the greek gods as a status of power. While Icarus's story is about an unworthy person trying to come too close to the sun. Which is a much more biblical idea of heaven. So in a pro-Christian/anti-polytheists culture like colonial western Europe, which is the culture who fetishized and collected together greek myths. It'd make a lot more sense to use this story instead of one that talks about the greek gods as on par with 'God'.

I truly love your storytelling style. The acting with your facial expressions, the side art, it is all so wonderful.

I am also a big fan of the shoulder wiggle. I am a big fan of pretty much everything you do though, you fantastic human

The thing you twirl and it draws a circle is called a compass. Yes. Totally not confusing when compared to a navigation compass.

My Mom used Icarus's story to remind me I should always do what my Mom says.. >M> Back in time when you didn't have an outro and part of the fun was checking what kind of dance move you'll do as an outro, hehehe. : )

This made my Monday. Thanks Dael!

Great video as always. That musical intro made me so happy!

Anyone else excited for the percy Jackson Disney+ show? We will get to see the minotaur! And if we make it to season 4 we will get to see the labyrinth and daedalus!

All of my Mythology comes from Rocket Robin Hood and the Mighty Hercules cartoons so this is always an eye opener.

Like King Cocalus, King Cocacolas had inventors of his own. Though, his focused on uses for coca leaves, kola nuts, and unique bottle designs.

I'd say that Deal has gotten even more crazier since the Quarantine but nup, that's just Dael being Deal. And it's fantastic.

I can't help but think of the Daedelus from the Filmation Hercules cartoon whenever he's mentioned.

I never knew that even was an after story about Icarus and Daedalus. Also I worked once with cows, and can confirm that indeed they're boxes covered in leather, that consume grass and turn it into meat and milk. I just wish they had wheels instead of legs.

Even though I was very familiar with Daedalus (and Icarus), I thoroughly enjoyed this telling of the tale. The should thing was a bit unusual, though it seemed better the second time. As for my grandma... I just realized I don't think she even has e-mail.

Next time one of my players visits Salzu Yosmop, the svirfneblin who runs the "Battle Baubles and Curiosities" shop over in the adventurer's quarter, he will be promoting the "Yarn of Yielding" as a way to not get lost when exploring.

missed a perfect daeldalus pun

Ah yes. The story of history’s first yeet.

I don't know how true it is, but I recall reading that Minos' symbol was the double headed axe Labrys, which led to the maze being called the Labyrinth

Did the King of scicily have any, like, violation of Sacred Hospitality stuff happen to them for this? 'Cause that sounds like something there'd be a myth about.

And the moral of the tale: Do not de-Acropolate your relatives, even if they dare to outshine you with their unfair competence... *Unless, you have a galley with a full tank in port and prospects of helping a mad tyrant with his megalomaniacal building projects, then you're dandy.

Oh bull, this story took a VERY unexpected turn.

i just realized that minotaur is derived from minos and taurus, ive heard this story so many times, how did i miss that

"how would it work, how could i possibly attract that Bull to myself?"... well, wait a few thousand years, theres a think called The Internet!

I am sure it must have came up in a fight years after it happened. Minos and wife fighting over something unrelated to bulls. Wife: "You are proud of that bull huh? Well let me tell you something about that bull...."

I've always preferred Daedalus to Icarus. Even as a child, I thought Icarus unwise for not listening to his dad's warning. I admire Daedalus so much, on the other hand, that I might be the person who uses the word 'Daedalian' the most

The maze wasn’t so big, actually, but the Minotaur was.... that’s why no one escaped.

There's a good comic about the string. That particular one is safe for work but the others on the site not so much so I think I'll leave it at that.

Icarus isn't a story about hubris, it's a story about how we're so damn stupid as teenagers and have no life experiences to draw on so we feel absolutely impervious to harm

"What is a cow, if not just a box with skin" is some Diogenes tier philosophising.

4:22 - Greek mythology in five words.

After watching this video, I kind of feel guilty making Daedalus a guild (of wizard-engineers who invent Industry) and Icarus a city (where they build a magic-powered hydraulic generator which slowly destroys magic) in my D&D world. There's so much more I could have done.

7:39 Bag of String Holding, OBVIOUSLY!!! lol

I'm trying to wrap my head around the tidbit that Minos ask Poseidon for a sign/boon with the knowing intent that Minos will sacrifices that sign to Poseidon. Like. "Yo give a thing to prove my power and once I'm king, I'll sacrifice to give it back to you."

Been following since G&S ... so sorry to see the flogs get dumped around the same time that Legendary took over (I'm sure it was just a coincidence ... ;) ) I still follow you and a couple others, so I'll keep an eye out.

Funny thing. In modern times semen from valuable bulls is collected with a similar "Cow" contraption... makes you wonder ... things XD

It’s kinda amazing how many Greek Mythology stories involve King Minos of Crete and how awful he was.

Me and my mam were JUST talking about this yesterday!

New to the channel. I've got to say, pretty big fan! Gonna spam a few of these videos while...trying to sleep. Cause...that's important. Lol

Again, another one that I thought I knew more about, but no... It's all topsy turvy, once again. And for that, I thank you.

Daedalus: The Man Who Makes IT Happen.

I felt very judgy about the Queen organizing a sexual rendezvous with a sea bull until I realized I wasn’t there. I have no evidence of how gorgeous that bull was. It could very well be like 5x the beauty of THAT horse.

I didn't know about #stafe until today, but it's now my pandemic motto.

Maybe Icarus wanted to see whether Helios (the sun God) is true or not. Helios was venerated in Rhodes so perhaps, Icarus is so curious about this. If you're up there, flying, what would be the more important thing that you would not miss to check?

I clicked because of "Daedalus" - crit item from DOTA 2 - which you have to obviously rush as first time... as a Crystal Maiden.

Wow, that ending was dark... which I guess is only to be expected for a Greek myth. (Maybe Agamemnon's death was a call back to that?)

Shoulder wiggling is the best. Try to be sad while wiggling your shoulders, I dare you. I remember thinking that maybe the string was meant to be magically never-ending, but then why would they just get rid of the ball of infinite string? I mean, I don't remember if they ever address the Wings again either so maybe Daedalus just destroys all of his marvelous inventions as soon as they get used once.

you should really do these as a Premiere, I love the hype when everyone's in chat together. only question is do we do it at a "regular" time for us in the land down under, or do we do it at a more "american" time...

Can we please get a Balerophon episode?!

What would be your introductory mythology story/book to a newbie?

2:34 THIS IS SPARTA

Miss the Greek and sundry vlogs days

Pasifae potentially Greeks first furry to get a fursuit

Talos, Kalos or Perdex? I don't know about the first and last, but I think Kalos is the Greek word for "beautiful"? Which sounds more like an epithet than a name (but given that there are Anglo-Saxon fictional figures called things like Shield... maybe it is a name). Edit: Regarding the end of the story, I heard a version in which Daedalus became the tutor for Cocalus's daughters, and it was the daughters who claimed to have solved Minos' seashell threading (they asked Daedalus for help solving it); the three of them killed Minos to protect their tutor.

Historically, the idea of the Minotaur actually comes from the sport of Bull-Jumping-- athletes (the captive Athenians among them) would practice grabbing the horns of a charging bull and using them to vault themselves over the bull to safety. Naturally, if you weren't good at it, it would kill you. It was a form of entertainment.

Just finding the channel now, and I’m loving your mythology videos. Any chance you could put the Jason and the argonauts myths in a playlist? I have no idea what order to watch them in.

King Minus was one of my favorite Sesame Street cartoons.

Cougarpedia. Now there's a name I've not heard since...

Love it

Daedalus didn't tie the string to the and, he used superglue. The really clever thing about this trick was that he had to invent superglue first. Back when this channel was young: You mean back when this story was current events? Finally, I thought Icarus fell into the sea. Are you suggesting that this is not an accurate portrayal of the event? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landscape_with_the_Fall_of_Icarus#/media/File:Pieter_Bruegel_de_Oude_-_De_val_van_Icarus.jpg

love the vid

Loved learning about Coca-Colas. ❤

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Dael Dance Party!!!!

Where are all your Geek & Sundry videos? They are all marked private?

Hope you are feeling better.

Careful, Icarus...

More like wax bae-dalus sprinkling that wax into the sea from way up high.

If you were to Ship two mythological characters, what ship would you choose?

Y'know, I only ever watch your D&D videos, but something made me watch this. Maybe it was the copious amounts of gin I've had, but entertaining nonetheless.

Am I the only one who thinks that Daedalus didn’t tell his son to fly too close to the sun? I’m thinking when Icarus fell to his death he just told everybody that he warned him not to do it.