lol

Cut him some slack, it's keeping Rich off the streets.

this comment actually made me laugh out loud

@@BashoftheMonth Rich off the streets and in the sheets

"How does it feel to see all your favorite franchises just go down in flames?"

Maybe there's a youtube channel where 4 drunken wine moms talk about the best and worst true crime things on earth, where their soccer mom audience post comments wondering why their soccer dad husbands are so inexplicably addicted to watching 1.5 hour videos of 4 drunkards in Milwaukee talking about the worst movies on earth.

It's popular enough that even South Park picked up on it. I don't know if they coined the term, but they called it "murder porn." It fits like a glove, too - women are irrationally addicted to it like men who watch too much porn, and it adds just as much value to the world as porn does.

@@afz902k there is??!!

double standards 😅

And you should be careful, very careful

Ha! Good comment but you didn't say anything about being a soccer mom or not. Anyways, I watched the full re:view without watching the show because Evan Peter's is going to give me nightmares. They happened to talk more about the real world stuff with dahmer Instead of details of the happenings in each episodes so there was no problem enjoying it.

Whoo

Based

@@amitmeena2961 "Haha! Good comment, so are you single?"

@@marcelosdbzmusic8072 "Haha! Everybody look at me, I'm the edgy boy on the block"

Will he be walking around with a gun pointed at his temple for the entirety of 10 hours? Also, will there be a narrator with an extremely nasal voice who'd try to gaslight the audience?

Well, the show got renewed for two more seasons so you might seen a Wayne Gacy Drama from Netflix in the next few years.

No no, he's got a point. Mike would make the perfect Gacy!

I wished he would ve played Ed Kemper and just stood over people quizzing them about The Star Treks and rewarding them with Cheetos.

Oh mai gaaaaaaaaadddd! that’s exactly what I thought. If Jay is play Dahlmer in a better adaptation, who Rich is playing?

The worst thing about him was the hypocrisy.

@@Owl90 I miss Norm.

@@zzzzzzz88 That's not his name.

I disagree .. @29:05 Mike gives the hot take: "Dahmer was a piece of s**t kinda boring guy who was like a failure on everything".. and a little later with an addendum: "a complete failure of a person with proclivity towards a weird sexual problem".

He's a real jerk!

I know, right? So convenient...

I love the idea that not having been in town could be a stronger alibi than having been prepubescent when the last murders were committed, and also not being Dahmer.

@@ArchibaldClumpy Didn’t you watch the show? ANYONE can be Jeffrey Dahmer.

@@ArchibaldClumpy I'm not saying I think Mike commited a series of gruesome murders as a child, I'm just saying, should new information arise about him being in Milwaukee at the time, maybe re-open the case.

Rich doesn't.

Wouldn’t a memorial for the victims just be a place for weirdos to go and vandalize it in Dahmers name?

@@idk-ol8ev that would be my guess

I'm not sure why we should "honor" a bunch of morons who got themselves killed by Dahmer. I mean one of the people he killed Dahmer went to jail for trying to kill his brother, and the brother was STILL stupid enough to trust Dahmer.

@@idk-ol8ev That's what the city of Milwaukee said when pressured about it, and they're probably correct.

@@idk-ol8ev yes, they mentioned it in the beginning

Extremely quotable.

I don't understand how anyone can find these true crime murder shows interesting. War documentaries about industrial-scale murder, now that's interesting.

Yeah except Fight Club is about guys urge to fight and true crime is about how murder gets women horny

@@capslockcapable1719 some people are interested in a more intimate killer

@@kimmmwest4641 I know your not, but for a second I thought you were implying people who like war documentaries were, like, murder sluts.

Sorry for your loss. It's terrible when anything like that occurs. As far as cruddy true crime stuff goes, I think it's on its way out, or at least will be held to higher standards in the near-ish future. Congratulations for at least trying to set the record straight.

Fuck sorry for your loss

That really made me angry to read. I’m sorry that happened to your sister and to her memory.

That's really unfortunate, it's so gross how these people profit off of tragedy by twisting and over-dramaticizing the details.

the inherent exploitation of the tragedy-even in the most tasteful, hypothetical attempt to tell the story to a wider, entitled audience-notwithstanding... I will NEVER understand why people who work on this media insist on leading the narrative down familiar narrative paths. There's never a good reason for it.

"Jeff, he who stars in terrible movies"

100%! I heard a lot about the show before deciding to watch it. My friends at work were recommending it like crazy. I had a lot of reservations, but I decided to take a look. I only got about half way through before I had to stop watching it because I started to fact check every episode as I went. It's ASTOUNDING how much stuff is completely wrong or made up. And this only strengthened the negative feelings I had about it from the start. They said they made it in respect of the families- false. They said Dahmer wouldn't be the central character- false. They said it was supposed to highlight the problems people of colour (and specifically gay men of colour) faced during that time- which they maybe did somewhat, but it feels a lot more like exploitation than awareness. They also wrote his mom's struggle with mental illness into being the comedic relief. I told myself that if it was AT LEAST a factual retelling of events then there was some merit to it and worth watching. But it failed even on that level, so, like Mike, it left me wondering 'what am I even getting out of this?'. This whole thing is just a cash grab with no thought put into how it actually affects real people. I rarely think there is anything that shouldn't have been made, but this show? It shouldn't have been made.

In what world does a straight man allow another man to lay his head on his chest and listen to his heartbeat?

I mean Tracy Edward is a pedophile, so I could not give a crap about disrespectful portrayal of him. But for the other victims it is disrespectful, inaccurate at time and some of the side character story is fabricated in some part to push a political narrative which feel scummy. Black and Gay people being discriminated by the police is already a powerful and factual narrative, but pushing for BLM comparison by creating fictitious side story is just irksome.

​@@mjwbulichHe was handcuffed and held at knife point. I don't know if you know this, but Dahmer was known to be like a real jerk to alot of people.

​@@mjwbulichyou are terrified of being perceived as homosexual even with anonymity on the internet. Hilarious

Yup and if anything it fuels future events like that because people with those fucked up thoughts realize how much it “celebrated” in our culture and media. It’s fucked up and gross. If you’re gonna make a serial killer movie make it from the police’s point of view and make it FICTIONAL.

Yeah. I thought about that when Mike said something about famous serial killers. The last thing they deserve is fame. Countless good people die and are forgotten, while the worst humanity has to offer get to enjoy a privilege once reserved for ancient Egyptian god-kings: Being remembered forever. Immortality.

He's dead

@@dannybowers4133 The would be serial killers are not, and they are seeing how much notoriety it brings.

@@dannybowers4133 Nope, he isn't. He lives rent free in a lot of minds. There's a few killers that do it simply for that. For the shock and fame, and the knowledge people will talk about them forever. A lot of it is about power, power over the victims, and power over the public. We can't get rid of them, no matter what.

Jay is right almost all of the time. Mike is consistently a bit hopeless by comparison.

I just hope and pray he never gets on one of those missing persons lists

Scrolled down to say the same thing.

Most accurate quote of 2022

Forgive me for asking, can you explain how women self identify with true crime? Got a Mom who can't enough of the genre Not being malicious just curious.

No, they did it from Rich’s desktop computer (where he reacts to videos)

@@aza3ful1 which is just upstairs of the sexual dungeon where Rich has all those kidnapped women Dick the birthday boy indeed

@@aza3ful1 No, he already had them all archived.

They were on the list way back when they ordered 50 balloons of acetone.

It was gross. Playing music that’s just short of Benny hill lampooning what’s likely a bunch of dead white women while at the same time claiming this movie was disrespectful to victims was a bit glaring. These two guys are idiots.

I saw someone post this recently. Can’t remember if it was a skit or just a meme.

This was the best comment.

@@donuts_are_good damn I hope they stole it from me

Exactly why I will not watch this shit , well said my friend

@@valley_robot Well, the show got renewed for two more seasons. Yikes.

"Dahmer, we'll have to travel back in time to recruit Jack The Ripper, *he's the only one that can defeat Thanos"*

Yeah. I find these people interesting ... looking how messed up our brains can be, what leads to that and what comes of it. But that's what books and serious documentaries are for ... preferably not just about these super popular cases.. There you get actual information packed as exactly that. Not some glorifying entertainment bs. I think it's absolutely disgusting to make money with these stories and playing them out for the world to see and try to shock the audience, just so that some people can be entertained. Make some stuff up, of that's the goal.

@@LipziG3R Same. But even then, it's a tightrope to pull off. When it comes to Dahmer media, the only one I liked is My Friend Dahmer. It's from the perspective of Dahmer's friend and gives you an insight into Dahmer's life.

It wasn't canceled, Fincher didn't want to do it anymore

it certainly did the subversive stuff Mike and Jay were suggesting might have been the intent for this show, like confronting the serial killer fandom aspect and showing it for all it's ugliness, but Mindhunter did it on purpose soo....

Mindhunter is wayyy wayyyyy better then this series

That doesn't sound sexy enough horrid murders pack that puch the slack Jawed public desires. - Paul marketing

The first season of Mindhunter was really damn good. The second was still pretty good, but not as much. It could have been fixed, though. It could have become an amazing show.

They are mentally unstable after all

Don't worry Mike will leak it all when he founds the funniest/most embarrassing moment for Rich to do so.

Dick the b̶i̶r̶t̶h̶d̶a̶y̶ ̶bo̶y̶ serial killer

This really re-contextualizes his birthday shirt...

The latest slasher horror sensation in the style of Silent Night, Deadly Night and Sleepaway Camp: DICK THE BIRTHDAY BOY.

Eyes on Evans

this joke is so cruel and hilliarious at the same time that I'm gonna steal it some day

"Fine Mr Goodman, but he still committed murder, so even if we dismiss the cannibalism charges, he abducted, drugged and murdered young men, my decision is he is guilty and will be executed."

😭

I feel guilty laughing. Good one man

😂😂😂

This is the kind of comment they don't come to the comments for

What did Jeffery Dahmer keep in his shower? Head and Shoulders.

EDIT: I didn't realize the hosts made this joke in this episode.

@@johnpederson8748 Your version of the joke is way better.

“Lost and found?”

There is no way in hell people wouldn't make it into a shrine for him.

Even if it was, like, a call center, people who worked there would not be left alone.

They should've built a butcher shop there

There is a weird point about halfway through where the creators almost went into damage control mode. They spent so long glamourising these murders they thought "oh shit, we should probably start saying how bad it is and remember these were people...err you people who are fascinated by him...shame on you! Now everyone, sit back and enjoy someone brutally bashing his face in with a pipe"

@@jebus89 tbf Jeffery Dahmer is one of the weirdest and most strange serial killer cases in American history. There's so much weird shit surrounding him and the people around him. It's hard not to glamorize him with a drama because he's a very mysterious guy and that just comes off as kind of charismatic in a drama even if he was an absolute monster.

So that's where this notorious "Man Hole" is

Come on don't do Jay like that

Now I wanna see a drama about an owner of such bar, who deals with loss of his clients after a serial killer appears in the area

Shhhh, they dont know his real name, he goes by Susan there

Not if it wasn't Club 219, where ol' Dahmer cruised for targets.

that's how that usually works.....smh

Remember, the "neighbor" in this show actually lived in a different building...so...

@@noneatall9060yeah the neighbour didn’t live next door at all lol

I was just about to look up what happened to him. Glad he hasnt been able to get away with it (though ofc he should be rotting in a cell)

Based Ohio.

Dayton, Ohio has suburbs? Lol

I mean, Mike took part on creating Slenderman.

As an Ohioan, I must ask you proper credit us for Dahmer

after videogamedunkey

Both of them are hacks but only ONE is a fraud.

@@plagueofangel8694 , and Mike is from the Chicago suburbs in Illinois rather than Milwaukee. But aside from that, 100% accurate.

He was just trying to watch night court

That's bullshit. Dahmer began killing because he didn't get enough Mayo on one of his hamburgers.

What? I missed the lore established by RL

Its while he was working with Shoji Tabuchi in Branson Missouri!

@@UnDefinedLegacy ...it's a joke.

every episode is evan peters playing a different serial killer

Episode one - A man walks through a packed fairground holding a balloon. Everyone looks happy except for him. He looks up at the rides, almost enviable of the riders' collective joy. JUMP CUT TO: Man from fairground is stood with a friend, who is on the phone. Man: Yeah, well me and my friend Rich Evans aren't coming back to be in your stupid movie!

Thank you for the genuine LOL I got from this comment.

Lmao

lmao

And local businesses, too!

Ayy lmao

Im just here to give you (OP) props for the 'Drums and Wires' XTC profile pic you have there ^_^

or even more exploitative than we could imagine.

"Lost & Found!?"

A polar opposite of Einstein,

His brain is slowly deteriorating from a combination of alcoholism, bad movies, star trek picard, and becoming elderly. We're seeing it in near real time.

"Not a Wanted poster" had me deceased

That's the reason he -loves- loved Star Treck. He just wants to go to his home planet.

"Mike to describe some horrific murder" From an episode of Star Trek?

@@Fanuc_Operator1990 You literally have this backwards...Mike would describe the murder and Jay would laugh. Jay is the one known for laughing at perverse things, do you even know these people or what?

@@olathianwhiskey416 You literally have this backwards...Mike would murder the Jay and describe the laugh. Jay is the one thing for laughing at perverse knowns, or do people know what you even these?

@@Fanuc_Operator1990 Only if it was the murder of an elderly person.

Most horrific on screen murder is Dahmer himself

THIS. was only a matter of time before they sell out. sponsors coming next

@@Motawa88how dare they make sure their videos get monetized! Anyways, I think bleeps can make swearing funnier than hearing the word tbh.

Hi John Kenny. I live in Baltimore. There are a lot of sleepy people here.

I live in the human trafficking capital of the US and let me tell you. We don't get nearly ENOUGH missing persons posters or bulletins. Like the state puts it all out of sight out of mind. Reminds me of the citizens of Derry in IT.

On average 60,000 people go missing every year in the U.S. never to be seen again. Where are all these people going?, Would be my first question and my second would be, Why are not more people questioning where they are?

I moved to Atlanta in 90 and had no idea that 28 kids where murdered from 1979-81. I know now that there were countless more that occurred before (wrote off as runaways since they were never found) and after (wrote off as runaways or not counted because they convicted a man of 2 murders (just 2) but blamed him for the rest).

I got a shop in Pittsburgh... in late December 2020, this group of people came in asking if they could put up missing posters in my store front windows. They were the friends and sisters of a girl that was last seen at the tea shop directly across the street from my shop 2 days before. It was brutal watching them. They were frazzled. Obviously been awake with stress the days leading up to them coming in. I felt so f*cking bad. The girl was in her early 20s. A few days after they came by someone found the girls bookbag and shoes on the Homestead Bridge, but she was never found. .... the saddest part, aside from her being gone, are the worn and sunbleached posters still on the streetlight poles around town. Even being laminated, theyre faded to being almost unrecognizable. Sad stuff.

Any existing fandom after disney purchases an ip

Legit 🤣

When has Mike forcing his friends to do black spine ever caused misery...

"Making money off People's misery is an industry." "HEY RICH, GET IN HERE!"

Now we know why Mike has been a friend of Rich for so long…

Thanks- now we're all dead

That was, like, before the whole covid thing and stuff.

Remember how everyone thought 2016 was such a bad year because a few extra celebrities died? Holy f*ck, we had no idea how good we had it. Now most adults hate most celebrities lol

Dude

I'm not dust

our OverLords have killed more

I really don't think I'd be capable of cutting out a human heart and eating it. I really have a hard time consuming organ meat as it is. Now human skin however, fry it a bit until it's crispy and nice, maybe add some seasoning, myeah. So anyway, what are you up to this weekend?

@@danielhaden6674 with enough butter, herbs and garlic you can even make snails tolerable to eat. I'm sure human is far easier than that to make palatable

@@Lilybun there’s an interview with a guy from Japan I believe? Either way, he travelled somewhere to eat someone and didn’t get arrested for it, and in the interview he described that the most similar meat to human is veal.

@@mesadrums375 i saw some guys eat a human placenta on finnish television, don't remember what they described it as being like other than disgusting

Exactly what I thought. Seems like they were setting up a gacy show at the end

@@T_R_O_Y_McClure it’s cause he was baptized the same day gacy got executed

@@RealTalkAlexV I get that. But did we really needed to see him doing vile things, in full Pogo costume? To me it seemed exploitative, looking to shock with another messed up serial killer, getting the same response as a celebrity cameo, but for the true crime community

@@RealTalkAlexV With that said, it was amusing to see Psycho Pete from Always Sunny in Philadelphia playing John Wayne Gacy

@@T_R_O_Y_McClure I wouldn’t put anything past Ryan Murphy! I bet we’ll be dished out another mini series, this time with John Wayne Gacy in no time.

I think about this whenever I used to go to the Eagles Ballroom and see the Ambassador

I feel the same way about Cryptosporidium, when we were the Flint, MI before Flint became Flint, MI.

Why? Ive been living for a year here and everything looks normal, if it wasn't for this video I've never had know that there is a Dahmer tour lol

@@regulustheron2565 "been living here for a year" come on man surely you can connect the dots

@@freeaudiojungle4407 I knew about Pogo and Dahmer already butt I've never heard people here or outside say something about the murders.

the part where he goes to glenda‘s apartment to give her a meat sandwich was so gross to me, it was like they were painting him out to be hannibal lector

@@xxplasticxx4893 apparently that story is true but the sandwich wasn't given to Glenda but a different neighbor who said they believed after the fact that it was human meat. Who knows though, one of the criminal psychologists who worked on Jeffrey in one documentary on KZfaq claimed in the last month leading up to his arrest the only meat Jeffrey was consuming was the free meat of his victims. It was the only type of meat packaged up and cooked in his apartment, there was multiple pans and pots with cooked human meat on his stove during his arrest. So apparently the cannibalism was in fact pretty hardcore towards the end.

That's the problem with these dramatizations like When They Ses Us, or Dahmer, people start remembering fake historical events. The Cnetral Park Five were never exonerated and Sarah Palin never said she could see Russia from her house.

@@capitanclassic8624 🎶One of these things is not like the others🎶

@@petewerehere yeah, SNL isnt really a dramatization, it's a sketch comedy.

Doxtater was killed in Dahmer's apartment shortly after the police left. He admitted to it in his police interrogation.

Did you watch the show? There was a pretty big dramatic scene of it

@@marcelosdbzmusic8072 Exactly

@@kingexplosionmurderfuckoff9376 .....no, if you look at his list of victims, there were 2 14 yr Olds that he killed. They only highlighted the one that nearly escaped.

@@marcelosdbzmusic8072 wrong 14 yr old

The mystery is there because the motive for the murders is rarely explored. As a society we focus on the symptoms rather than the problems because it is easier to be seen to be doing something.

@@MajorT0m To be fair it's hard to understand the motives of a serial killer and to a large degree I do think there's just something wrong with their brains. I agree with you when it comes to spree shooters and whatnot, though.

as little girls we're taught to be vigilant and scared of these men, so I think that's a part of it.

@@appalachiabrauchfrau Exactly. And, the only way to protect ourselves is to try to recognize/identify these men before we become their victims.

I love when he said "lost and found poster"

I wonder if it's due to the alcoholism, or if it's due to Mike having constantly been in the presence of Rich Evans for so long that he's absorbed, via osmosis, Rich's penchant for mush-mouth-speak and malapropisms. Hey, why can't it be both things?

Kids, this is why you don't start drinking before age 10.

I mean... He's not wrong.

🤣

It's common knowledge that soccer mom Susan Bauman moonlights as movie critic Jay to spice up her boring life

He’s always contradicting himself lol poor fellow wants to constantly sound intelligent.

@The Rue Morgue No he's not LOLOLOL

Correct… Jay dumps on soccer moms for rubbernecking Dahmer but literally has watched and has an easy familiarity with EVERY DAHMER FILM EVER MADE. Dude is a fucking hypocrite who needs to turn the microscope on himself. He loves and laps up exploitation unapologetically; can’t get enough.

I dont really remember that happening. They gave him all the cigarettes and coffee he wanted and he told them anything they wanted to know.

@@johnv6806 oh yeah, not the authorities, meant his Dad and Grandma.

Yeah that wasn't cool

It's a strange moment of wholesomeness where the subject matter is a potent mix of cynical and scummy.

“Well grandpa . . . “

@@PyckledNyk mike is 67, jay is 32

Wut

How dare you monetize a national tragedy!?

@OB Marte Do you have a website for your tour schedule??

You monster

Too soon

I mean that's what Bundy did, too. Just in a different way. It's absolutely a strong common thread for a number of serial killers. Also the need to possess and be close to their victims, only as corpses and not living, autonomous people.

For real. We keep glorifying serial killers and mass shooters and wonder why people keep wanting to be the next Dahmer.

Oh my god I know. I'm quite disappointed. At least Jay has some taste.

.... AHS took A LOT of patience for me to get through... not really an upstanding statement when describing a series. Dahmer ran out of gas about 2/3 through the series, i thought, if anyone is watching this, its usually horror fans who say they respect the victims, and not sensationalism of the killer..... really? ....really? 🙄

He's a paraphiliac

Imagine being so miserable you scoff at the idea of guilty pleasures.

@@zacharyhaynes8969 I'm imagining.... Now what?

In the Cocaine Bear episode of Half in the Bag Mike suggested a rating system for how accurate "based on a true story" is.

based

Not on a true story, just based.

I think you got your Mikes and Jays confused

Dick the birthday Dahmer

Well he'd be kinda perfect for whatever show they make about BTK...

"Let's just cuddle, it will avoid the AAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSSSSS"

The actor playing Dahmer was already too sexy and you want to make him even sexier?!

Dahmer The Murder Boy

The Midwest is kind of weird when it comes to serial killer glorification. Obviously, these are horrible creatures that should never be celebrated by any stretch of the imagination, but you'll be surprised how often people like John Wayne Gacy (who had a documentary series last year on HBO Max), the Angel of Death, Carl Watts, or Herb Baumeister (another guy who targeted gay people though not for cannibalistic purposes) get brought up.

Wait, there's Dahmer merch?

@@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 This makes me glad I live on a coast.

@@lolusuck386 Yeah I bought some yesterday

Dahmer was based seethe

I want to understand the psychology, and also the investigation that finally catches these monsters. But it is very frustrating how incompetent the cops are for a long time before they finally luck out.

Are you the alien girl from Mars Attacks!?

@@wt_neptune54 yes. Ssshhh.

Hybristophilia is a hell of a drug

Yeah... Let's not kill his innocence.

And Netflix will probably categorize that as LGBTQ and get even more backlash for that being the worst representation fucking imaginable

Thankfully we're going to nuke ourselves before that, and really seems like the better outcome.

He'll be played by one of the kids from Stranger Things. Screencap this.

@@GigaDonk99 Accurate, though.

I find it hilarious when people cried about representation, when Dahmer was indeed a member of LGB group

I had that feeling for the first time with this one. I think it's because he wasn't popularly known and it was only by chance that I read about it through wikipedia. Somehow, maintaining the popularity of a serial killer felt less obviously exploitive to me than drumming up new popularity for one that was pretty much forgotten.

I don't think they should be forgotten actually. On the contrary we should pay close attention to what they are and, more importantly, how they became what they are. We have to know the recipe as to better avoid it. Turning a blind eye on the darkest side of humanity is a very dangerous thing to do imo.

@@dilutioncreation1317 are you saying Dahmer wasn't well known or am I misreading your comment?

lol

I used to be fascinated by it too and watch that shit nonstop til I just decided why give evil screen time at all!??!

I just noticed that. 😂

They’re genius

Mike got his pun backwards at 0:52 though It should have been "my colon in a monster"

Who type editing this sheet hmmmmm

yes these "recreation" documentaries distort peoples understand of what really happened. All in the service of making the story sizzle more.

Exactly.

Or just do it like Fincher did with Mindhunter.

They wouldn't be as profitable.

But the true crime genre does that, and it’s just as awful and salacious and constructed. I prefer dramatisation - you can discuss larger themes (can a monster ever be forgiven or ‘saved’?). A doco can only deliver the facts, not the question we’re all asking by watching: why?! How?!

If they'd put Lt. Dangle on the case, they would've got Dahmer much quicker.

I felt she was overacting and Hamming it tf up. She got cringey at times for me.

Personally…as one of the many “soccer/wine moms”.. I don’t watch true crime shows for the fear factor. I’m more interested in: how could someone do that, why they did it that way, if the victim got away, and more of the facts of an event. I also like the ending of most of these stories that tell you that the killer got killed in jail or has finally got caught… If I wanted fear, I would go walking alone down the street.

That's exactly what Wes Craven said about horror movies. Its in our subconscious and everyone is capable of acting on sub primal things from our reptile brain. Good thoughts.

Funny glasses

Downs the Totino's pizza rolls like a fiend

It should have been told COMPLETELY backwards, start in the 2020s addressing how people saw the Dahmer killings today then crash to the reality of the trial which is where the public first know about Dahmer and the reaction to a cannibalistic serial killer. Their lurid reaction to this which by extraordinary coincidence came to public knowledge at the same time as Silence of The Lambs swept the Oscars and was a story all about a cold calculating cannibalistic serial killer. And I think it really should have been challenged the idea that Dahmer is really as he presents himself in court and prison interviews as if he's some detached semi-catatonic pathetic person. The idea that this is an act really should be challenged, I mean, there was no way he could evade responsibility he was caught red handed. The only way he could possibly save himself was to act like a malfunctioning android. But was he? Sure he wasn't a gleeful gloating slasher killer but does that mean he wasn't just another sadist? He killed people in ways that were slow, painful and also extremely varied, I think there's a lot to challenge the idea that he wasn't just another sensation-driven predator. I really don't think there's much point going to his childhood, while something in his childhood MAY have caused him to end up like this there's no way you can know what. I want a film that deconstructs the myth of Dahmer, and gets down to the man, who is - I believe - just another killer. It is my belief any cold blooded killer is a serial killer if they can keep getting away with it, if they can kill once then they can kill again.

What makes people like Dahmer, or Lizzie Borden, or whoever, interesting media fodder isn't "they did X", but "what causes a person to become capable of x"?

@@Hugsloth Sure, but when making a dramatization of a serial killer its probably best you don't lose focus of the fact that they are indeed a serial killer. Especially when not every viewer of your show is going to be familiar with the story.

or... it should not have been told. we don't need netflix drama miniseries about fucking serial killers

@Andrew Or you can just not watch. Just because Andrew doesn’t want something to be made, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t exist. Watch something else.

I'm glad I checked to see if someone else made this joke first. Nothing tackier than making the same joke as someone else, except for making THIS joke.

@@bulkeh weak people check comments. Go alpha and be your inner dad.

@@prowokator what if my inner dad is weak, man

@@bulkeh impossible, or at least very unlikely. Embrace it, it will feel natural, unlimited power on your fingertips!

@@prowokator i feel the strength! I know how to build a deck now

Did you just fuckin say that in Brazil serial killers are released back into the world after 30 years... that's absolutely terrifying

Max 30 years. Yeah, sounds like a great policy.

Reminds me of General Butt Naked running around without consequence today.

Oh man, wait until gringos learn about Guilherme de Padua

@@MrMadalien Well hey, if he's doing youtube now instead of killing people, maybe it was enough.

I thought for a second that movie was related to Dahmer even though I've seen it.

I just thought it killed a piece of Jay’s soul when he watched that and that’s why it was on there. Double entendre unlocked

Wait what?

The character was 2 characters. The one that was calling the cops throwing a fit was over exaggerated she called the cops the one night made a check u guys call when she seen the same kid missing in the paper she was never even in the same building as jeffery. His neighbor was fairly quiet

They mixed the woman who made that phone call and tried to help the kid with his neighbor

Hollywood will never allow facts to get in the way of an agenda.

The journalist who first went into the house with the police also said that it just smelt of chemicals not bodies.

This.

I love horror in general and went down a rabbit hole of serial killer docs and info about ten years ago. That shit still haunts me to this day. The fact that people are so into it like it's pro wrestling or something is alarming. I don't even want to watch this review and I love RLM's videos. I think a lot of people lack empathy/imagination and don't understand that under slightly different circumstances, they could be killers themselves. I try to stick with ghosts and goblin type horror stuff these days and avoid serial killer films whenever possible.

I went to fearfest in Raleigh, NC in May, I saw these things including a cutting board with a picture of Dahmer and it says something like I'm glad that you are here for dinner. It didn't offend me but I still thought it was trashy and had no interest in buying something that glorfied a real life killer.

Same, I like horror and horror themed stuff, but too many people in general are insensitive inconsiderate assholes who seem to unironically believe some of these things are cool. I have a similar gripe with people who are into witchcraft relates things who seem to think it's ok to steal body parts from cemeteries and murder animals for "rituals".

Yeap. Always say the exact same thing. I love the horror community and will collect Michael Myers and freddy kruger merch till no end. But when people in this community start collecting Manson dolls or Gacy paintings or toys. I absolutely check out with that. Those were real life pieces of shit that don’t deserve any more attention in any way. Hate how a ton of people in the horror community mix up idolizing these low lifes with just part of horror.

Glad to see these kind of comments. I saw this being pushed and was disgusted. They need to stop "honoring" these horrific people with cinema. They obviously did it because true crime stuff is massively popular (with so many American women I know, in particular). I hope that consumers actually stop supporting this stuff. I think it really may create future monsters who have nothing left to lose and think that maybe they can leave an infamous enough story that some boardroom psychos will glorify the story with dollar signs in their eyes.

Oh no, I love informative murder porn!

So hard to make people see this. These are real people who really suffered

The show actually did a pretty good job of not glorifying him tho. My awful opinion is that true crime moms are the same as WW2 documentary dad's, yea their obsession with these tragedies is weird but theyre not hurting anyone by consuming that type of content. I think what you're asking for is impossible, people will never stop being fascinated by tragedies so true crime will forever be one of the most popular genres of content. Not saying that's a good thing but I think humans are naturally too curious to stop talking about and consuming this type of stuff

This sort of thing was may more present in the 90s. Subcultures been revelling in serial killer smut since the 80s (Industrial, death metal, grind core...), then in the 90s it pushed mainstream.

when they started talking about the Milwaukee accent I immediately remembered a woman from that video shouting at a cop asking her to hand over her knives(?) or something saying "I'm soh sec of yer shit!"

Dos... a deer... a Midwestrn deer...

Considering that it’s apparently typical for people in Milwaukee to have Satanic altars in their apartments, you have to be prepared for anything.

Knowing Jay, he probably only picked victims that were later found to have survived.

Brite is 🔥 I grew up on Lost Souls

Also, that Mike's line about the show being called "My Name's Steven" made me wonder if we'll ever see a Netflix show about Dahmer called My Name Jeff

I mean that's kind of the problem with casting Evan Peters

it has, they're already posting Dahmer fancams to tiktok, some of which are "romantic" videos shipping him and one of his victims

@@headfangs the kids aren't alright.

Can't wait for the Twitter Bundy fans to get into thirst wars..... (please no)

What do you mean "gonna"? It started en masse almost immediately.

How do you not recreate how he was arrested, it’s better than any fiction they created. In this it’s because the cops find some pictures… in real life it’s because they checked the fridge as they were leaving and saw a human head. Who changes that aspect of the story??

@dude3000 Well hell, you’re right! I always thought they only arrested him because right before leaving they discovered the severed head. Huh. Thanks.