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Warlock then : Warlock Warlock now : Edgy mage

Used to gamble with my guild with my ritual of doom. Everyone would throw in like 10-20 gold, and whoever died, won.

Fun fact. The old eyes of the beast use to make it so that if you got a pet far enough from the hunter it would lose its tag as a hunter pet. So you could tame say like a level 5 boar in starter zone, eyes of the beast it, and then use it to grief low levels. They wouldn't see it as your pet, and you could mimic it moving around just like a mob would. Attacking it however would cause them to flag pvp and your pet in later xpacs like tbc and wotlk much much stronger because they still got your stat scaling so it was easy to kill them after that. Personally I think this might be why the original data was "lost".

Detect magic is used in PvP a lot especially against locks with Felhunters as it adds a dispel on the enemy so if the lock uses his pet dispel, it will remove the detect magic instead of polymorph..

I haven't played retail in a long time and basically my reaction to every one of these is: "wtf, they took that out?!"

Popping perception felt like activating sharingan. Lol.

I did like how mana was relevant back then. Raiding as a mage in BC, I remember fucking up my evocation on a fight (had to move or was stunned) and being OOM for a LONG time. It was my fault and I payed the price. A good mechanic

Sentry Totem also pinged your minimap when it received damage.

Lol I actually love how he shits on the totem bit then says it’s amazing once he learns he can take group selfies

I used to use my sentry totem to scout in pvp. It's especially useful for Capture the flag. You can warn your group about incoming players without having to cast farsight. The instantaneous switch allowed you to watch another location as well as your own freely. It's basically the closest the game came to split screen viewing. It was still highly situational but it had its use and I was sad to see it go.

The removal of scare beast and turn undead/evil were probably one of the earliest and biggest changes that were supposed to be based on "practicality" that really just contributed to the downward slide of WOW into it's current state of aoe damage spam and instant gratification with no risk even in dungeons, while removing depth of play and class fantasy world building.

I loved Shattering Throw on Warriors. Mages and Paladins used to get sooo angry when they'd bubble/iceblock and you just shattering throw them out of it.

I will be honest: i really liked having to level class abilities if it made sense, because it gave realism and coherence to the world. You pick locks, do you? Well you better start learning if you want to pick effing titan locks later on! And being able to make different poisons was amazing. You could even split them between daggers, so either go full dmg or go life leach/slow for pvp, etc! I loved this! That also really gave something to the feel of the class. And i also loved useless spells. Same reason, not everything in the world has to be super powerful and useful in fights, what world works like that? Flavour items, flavour spells, flavour npcs, that‘s what gave wow the feeling that differentiated it from other mmo‘s. And now look at it. There are many things i would change in current retail.

Random battlegrounds were ridiculous in Mop because healers were insane and never seemed to run out of mana. The games usually came down to how many healers each side had.

Divine Intervention was the best ability put into the game, I miss it so much.

Perception was always my favourite racial in bc. I played a human warlock, and perception stacked with paranoia to give you super stealth detection. It was niche, but niche is important.

Im beginning to doubt this guy actually played vanilla wow afterall

Poisons added such cool flavor, and perception got me killed soooooo many times yet made things feel even.

Eyes of the Beast was good for pet pulling specific mobs, like back in the day we used to use pet pulls in MC and AQ20

Mana Burning abilities can be used on Skeram in AQ40 to make the encounter completely trivial lol

Even though disciplin priests were increadible fun to play back in tbc because you of their flexibility with burst damage, mindcontrol & fear, sw:d, dispel & mass dispel and manaburn. Furthermore it was quite fun to have mana as a resource which you had to fill up during matches. But for shadow priests and mages this was kind of a joke, since you were most likely to be trained and completly useless oom. Edit: Not to forget, you could change the gear in arena matches back then. If people played heavy drain comps and the healer had access to good pve-gear. They often won based on that.

The doomguard's usefulness was in PvP. Essentially, in the time period where most people aren't level 60, and about 8 or so warlocks just happened to summon Doomguards into Northshire Abby, you know it might have some usefulness.

xD asmon’s reactions are 10/10 lol this ability should have been pruned, almost a minute later, we should definitely add this totem back in the game, it’s very useful

the poison on the dagger was a bit of a unique quirk the carracter had

I remember Perception, was an Undead Rogue at the time. If they knew you were there, Humans always got the opening on you. The one time I could get the drop on humans who knew I was there, I had to Vanish while in stealth for the improved stealth buff. If you were going to sneak up on one, you genuinely had to sneak up on them, not just stealth 40 yards from your opponent. See, this is what I liked about old racials and stuff. Sure, they were situational, but feeling like you were a specialist at something was satisfying too. An Undead Rogue was a Warlock killer, a Human Warrior was a Rogue slayer, a Tauren Druid could shrug off melee long enough to get one free spell with Warstomp, and a Dwarf could write off poisons for the entire duration of Stoneform. Moves became less specialized in the future, which might have made high-end pvp more balanced by not having auto-counter matchups, but it made open world and messy battlegrounds less interesting in exchange, with racials losing their impact in favor of being more general use.

Eyes of the Beast sounds like the most fun ability a hunter could have. What a goddamn shame they removed it.

"Even in a fantasy world you shouldn't be able to track mailboxes."ű Tell that to my ranger who has mailboxes as Favored Enemy!

I got the idea for a human warlock pvp antistealth build. Meant to travel in gank squads and buff teammates. So basically antigank squad XD

gotta love how the chat changes when he goes from sentry totem is useless to ohhhhhhh okay

Blizzard doesn't like to design fights around one ability but has no issue designing fights around addons that ruined the game more than any feature or change they ever introduced or removed.

Anyone else get the ad for the classic wow boosting service?

The mana thing started in cata. That’s when they made everyone able to go from combat to combat without having to eat or drink . You’d just gain insane amount of stuff out of combat. Then it snowballed heavy into mop and WoD

I remember times when it paid off to level lockpicking. Not every rogue was maxed out for it.

Bro, i missed poisons so bad. Classic was the best, what about the class quests to get certain skills? Those were great!

I remember the cabal of evil warlocks summoning those guys in the middle of Goldshire, killing all the low levels rolling around the place. Good fun, fun times to be had.

I miss mana burning as a priest. Could literally out pressure the other healer and force them to LOS or lose mana. was so clutch. combined with blood elf aoe was so fun to harass the other healer.

Being that one rogue in a hundred who actually leveled up their lockpicking to open max level lockboxes felt really good ^^ You were the hero that everybody wanted to add to their friendlist

Does anyone remember the hunter skill 'Volley'? Favourite AOE skill by far

ITS CALLED DIVINE INTERVENTION, OF COURSE IT IS OP AND HELPS WITH BOSSES

Asmon at beginning of the beginning of the ability description: Wait what?!? You could do that? Asmon at the end of the description: Yea that one was fun to use. I loved that ability

Perception was what I used to guard towers in alterac valley.

As a mage you could also use detect magic to spam on a caster so they would also have to remove your buff, like cannon fodder

Completely left out that you could use divine intervention during the beginning of AV at the gate, then as a ghost you would run through the gate spawn on the other time and cap 2 towers before the match started. By the time the game started 1-2 towers were burning.... so op

I was using sentry totem to monitor the wsg tunnel and ramp at the same time.

0:55 lmao his reaction to the piggybomb

Stoneform Viper Sting.. (dwarf priest) I remember doing that all the time.. Cause Viper just pissed me off so much

We were able to beat all bosses in WC during beta test with hunter (scare beast) lock (fear) and mage(poly). Was the most fun run i have done in a long time.

Yeah, Fear Undead used to be a huge benefit as a Holy Paladin playing against a lock with a fel hunter in arenas.

Loved Eyes of the beast..I used it to force people to tag up. They would always attack the pet thinking it was a glitch.

I remember bugging out Trail of the Grand Crusader in WOTLK with a well timed DI on the tank as the Anub'Arak was at 1% health... he died from the dots and we won the undeath run :D Guild Master walked away with the Wolf of the Horde. . .

I did the whole Maiden fight in Karazhan with Aspect of the Viper on....

Anyone else kept repeating the 0:55 part xD the look on his face is PRICELESS! XD

Actually dropping a doom guard in a newbie horde town after the attacked a newbie alliance town was priceless

Mana burn was so strong, arguably as good as viper sting. The effect was weaker, but the fact that it baited a shadow lock (allowing free heals) and being a constant threat needing LoS made it really tough to deal with against good priest teams.

Used to DI level 1s who didn’t know how to click off buffs good times

I feel the only reason you can track mail boxes is because that one guy who couldn’t find the mail box even though it was literally staring at him

Also to remind you, shamans ghost wolf form is also a beast, so you could've scare beast them or hibernate

Asmons reaction at 6:50 😂 there it is man

19:17 the face I agree with. Perfect reaction

The guy did not do his homework to realize the ghosts near undercity and in duskwood, that only warlocks could see with their buff, are there to help them farm shards at 60 lvl near the city....

Last time i remember having to worry about mana was in Dragon Soul heroic during cata. I'd actually run out of mana on some of the fights on my fire mage. Can't remember doing this in MOP. Think that's when mana became irrelevant.

Anyone remember when Shadow priests were mana batterys. It was the most fun time i had playing the game. Finally shadow had a raid utensil. Never topped damage charts but always kept my healers full on mana, and would get epic props for my efforts. God i miss those days

in RBG a lot of the fights actually are decided which teams healers run out of mana first.. D:

Could you use Divine Intervention to shild a player with the enemy flag in BG ??

Was not aware any of these was gone.. Have not played since BC tho.. So sad.

Divine Intervention was excellent in bgs I used the spell before the game started and I just respawned and ran to the enemy base before the doors open was funny as hell

holy pally was my main, DI-ing someone during a wipe made you feel like you were a very useful asset

Mana burn in Vanilla didn't do 10% of their mana, it did a set number of mana and a set number of damage. Which, if you were dueling a holy priest in full T2.5 /3 gear it could take 20 burns to empty them out. But if you were dueling a hunter or ret pally in T1/2 you could empty them in 3 casts. I mained a priest, and this wast the main defense to a hunter targeting you in a BG, just make them go OOM.

man i just leveled a pala in classic and i had turn undead on my hotbar all the way to 80. i used it a bunch of times.

I read somewhere that they were planning to bring back some of the old abilities like Eye of the Beast in Shadowland :)

Poison on dagger is cool for rogue but having charges PLUS time limit combined is a bit much. Choose one pls. This is on SoD as well

they need to replace dampening with mana burn abilitys but have it work like dampening

DERP you still put poisons on your daggers just you have to keep them in your bags. and new poisons are still timed just to an hour like all buffs

5:13 sentry totem wasnt useless. It was nice in WSG for flag runner movement

Viper sting was ridiculous.

5:00 No Asmond... it wasn't useless if you knew the secret trick, which is that you could stop your character from falling to death by switching over to the sentry totem's POV mid air, which would cause your character to stall, mid-air... resulting in loss of momentum and subsequently making you able to jump off even the tallest mountain/cliff in the game and land safely. EDIT: oh the guy in the video elaborated on this... damnit that's 2 minutes of life i will never get back

eyes was mostly used for pulling bosses

Warlock detect invis was the best thing in the anxx war quarter. Most ppl dont know, but all the weapons in classic were invisible

I love DI. The only thing I use it for is going to cities, finding new players, inviting them to my group and using it on them. If they are new, they might not know what the ability is or how to click off a buff, meaning they are just stuck there for 5 minutes.

Oh...ritual of doom and Soul Link...I miss them so...

Cant wait for when they add in burning crusade and then need to change the way classic spells work. The salt will be immeasurable.

I loved drain mana in arena, I would drain mana of ret Paladins all they would have left was auto attacks

I just realized dwarve rogues basically have cloak of shadows ..totally forgot about stoneform.

what if instead of track mailboxes, the had remember mailboxes, like flight paths. thats totally legit and ez

I love how he smiles the moment the succubes appears lmao 😂😂

You can track mailboxes irl with Google maps though :)

"Sentry totem is actually useless." Not true sir. I clicked a book through a wall using the sentry totem to see it on the table. Quest done. Kappa

What?!? I always thought that detect invisibility was used to see stealthed minions xD

Being Alliance and using detect invisibility in Duskwood was some funny shit. Those ghosts in the inn at the cemetery had level 40 something aggressive ghosts that only attacked if you could see them. So you just buff someone as they run past the area and the ghosts would chase and kill them. Same faction griefing was so fun.

Wasn't in classic, but Alter time for mages was the most interesting ability ever made in this game. Alter -> Blink -> Blink -> Handle a mechanic/soak something -> Alter back, made for the greatest game play experience. Pruning abilities is such a cock tease.

Mana burn abilities in arenas were literally how you won. I got to 2k rank in season two of BC playing a SL/SL warlock with a healing spec Druid. Drain their healer's mana while CCing the enemy DPS and it was game over. The good times when arenas were a blast!

I was a human lock on a PVP server, that perception skill saved my ass so many times...

specialization in felcloth? summoned a doom guarding that would attack the tailor

Right now mana classes like arcane mage and healers can run their mana low . In pvp it’s not unusual that healer went out of mana if both teams are good . While dps has mana for emergency heals, it can cast few times before it runs out complexity and he is screwed if he is in bad situation without mana . It’s different complete but it’s not bad

Drain mana was used on the some of the trash mobs at the start of AQ40 iirc. Otherwise they could wipe your raid. Don't remember how or why, but as a Warlock I remember always having to Drain those dudes.

It’s definitely interesting to see these come back. I’m glad to have eyes of the beast.

alot of history in one short video.

Ritual of doom was sick to summon inside a major city

Mana stopped mattering in Wrath, i remember Hpallys getting 100k mana after Ulduar and being OP as fuck in raids