DAMN that is AFFORDABLE! TC Ampworks Deluxe Review
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Күн бұрынPedal Modelers that focus on a single amp model are all the rage now. Let's check out what TC Electronic brings to the table with the Combo Deluxe 65.
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0:00 Unboxing
0:53 Slideshow
1:51 Full Song: Life in America
6:49 Introduction
11:15 The Guitar
12:22 Sounds DIRECT
20:58 with Drive Pedal
22:53 with Power Amp
24:30 MY2CENTS
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@Superjet113 Жыл бұрын
Great review and always appreciate your honesty Henning. Take care, and animals at the end!
@petertauscher316 Жыл бұрын
TC just keeps doing it. They're so effin amazing.
@VincVEVO 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I just ordered that pedal. :D Thanks for a nice video.
@pads-zr9ln Жыл бұрын
Price is great, love the idea but if you cant get the sparkley clean out of the deluxe pedal, whats the point?
@hereonmars Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Im pretty sure I'm gonna pick up the marshall and will use your link when you post the video. Looking fwd to the shootouts too 😊
@EytschPi42 Жыл бұрын
you can always use ANY link and whatever you buy still counts! Thanks!
@hereonmars Жыл бұрын
@@EytschPi42 good too know thank you!
@indigosnow_ Жыл бұрын
Looks so dope! Wanna use this with my upright
@KrenarCilkuGuitar Жыл бұрын
That sounds pretty good, especially through the Ox. A tiny bit of room reverb in the DAW would make it sound even better!
@EasyHeat Жыл бұрын
These instantly caught my eye as an incredibly "affordable" and useful piece of gear being offered by TC. Me likey! As always Henning?! You beat the chase and raise the content bar once again! Bravo amigo. Oscar just told me to tell you: "Bork!" 🙃😉😘
@nedim_guitar Жыл бұрын
That semi hollow HB Tele in the intro song looks really nice! All the instruments look really nice! The song itself is pretty good too. Great example of good songwriting (I own the course and I recommend it to others). As for the three pedals in this series, well... I like the concept and the price and it will be interesting seeing the demo of the other two pedals. I wanted the Vox AC30 amp years ago, but the store didn't have those, so the guy sold me a Blackstar HT20, saying that I get the British and American one in that amp. Sure, it was a good amp, but it wasn't what I wanted. I still want the Vox amp. I've had some digital modellers and I never could make it sound good. I can't really be sure about this pedal either, I would have to try it out on my pedalboard. But I would need at least two of these pedals, because writing and recording music, I like to have some differences in sound/tone. Even though I want the DC pedal, I think the Combo Deluxe 65' is a better option because it's a bit more versatile. But it's not completely clean! That's just not right. By the way, I think they put the apostrophe on the wrong side of the number 65 on the pedal. :) Still, I don't think that any of the pedals in this series will replace my Boss IR-200. The IR-200 isn't perfect, I'm really struggling to get good tones from some of the amp models, but I've found three that I like and I'm just using the three presets that I made. I'm still chasing tone a little bit, but at least I'm also remembering to play.
@PooNinja Жыл бұрын
Out of the three this deluxe would be my choice 🤘🏽. Very cool pre’s
@simondixon6761 Жыл бұрын
Nice intro track Henning!
@sassycat Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t sound dreamy, but the sounds it does make? Holy smokes, that's a perfect blown speaker recreation many have spent decades chasing. It would have been interesting to hear it with humbuckers. Kittens at the end!
@Jaysteenn Жыл бұрын
Love it! I'm looking for a pedal for apartment use with my monitor speakers, what should I get? I want to put my pedalboard into an amp/cab emulation going into monitors for practice, these pedals and the IK Tonex look pretty sweet!
@mdrumt Жыл бұрын
Sounds good. Sounds like they need a patch to clean up gain staging a little.
@MrNachoponcho Жыл бұрын
I picked up the Marshall one and it’s pretty damn good especially for the price
@tcelectronic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great demo Henning - always a great watch! Regarding clean headroom. The knobs are modelled like the original amp. If you go past 2-3 on the real amp it also starts cranking and gets more alive (depending on guitar). We did consider creating a different knob response for this pedal platform, but in the end we decided to stay true to the original gain behavior. Keep the gain low and use the LEVEL to compensate. Hope this helps. /Michael
@EytschPi42 Жыл бұрын
Thank Michael! You can see in the video that I am trying and always come back to 5. Level is all the way up already. I would have had to give it more gain on the audio interface and that was already up quite a bit. It just felt like the tone was too weak in the lower range or of the gain knob. I‘ll experiment more!
@tcelectronic Жыл бұрын
@@EytschPi42 I see, so you would like to be able to compensate even more with the LEVEL knob. The weaker sounds is a compromise of not driving the pre's harder - just as on the original you will have to find the sweet spot. But yeah, try and experiment a bit. :) For what its worth, I do get some really glassy and full cleans when using my strat with this pedal. Thanks again. /Michael
@LiehrJazz Жыл бұрын
@@tcelectronic Got mine today so these are first impressions. I agree that the gain knob reacts pretty similar to the original's volume knob but I also agree with Henning in that I would like more clean headroom. This becomes very apparent on headphones. To get an inspiring volume on them I need to have Level way up and Gain at 5 where chords already start to break up. I never used my original amp (1998 reissue) as high as 5 but still got a room or stage filling nice jazzy clean sound for the venues I used to play in. I noticed that the Out jack is much louder than the D.I. so maybe this is something that can be fixed with an alternative firmware for us cleaner players?
@pads-zr9ln Жыл бұрын
@@LiehrJazz would a boost pedal help, I'm still a bit of a noob sp don't know if it will just push it to break up
@LiehrJazz Жыл бұрын
@@pads-zr9ln I would suspect that a boost in the front end would just push the amp into break up even earlier, yes.
@william7108 Жыл бұрын
Man I wish I could unpackage things as fast as you do I guess you have a lot of practice
@chrisblue1515 Жыл бұрын
Love you man!
@andyhightides Жыл бұрын
It would have made more sense if they labeled them Volume and Output Level. Most black and silverface amps start to break up between 4 and 6, so I think they did a pretty good job on the modeling aspect.
@StephaneBergeronPixelyzed Жыл бұрын
I'm with you on this Henning. My base needs to be completely clean, not edge of breakup. I know that's home to a lot of guitar players but not me. My Revv Dynamis 7-40 is the kind of clean I want. With my Strat, it only *starts* getting a little hair at 3 o'clock (7-8). My previous main amp was a 1989 red knobs Fender Twin. That had even more clean headroom (and was WAY louder ;). And both it and my Dynamis have round, chimey attacks and are perfect pedal platforms. This wouldn't be it for me. I also have an Helix and their Deluxe model is much cleaner than this. The vibrato channel model is a bit woollly in the lows and low mids but their Normal channel model is spot on. Stays clean past 5. True Fendery chime when clean. I wouldn't use it for dirt either but they did nail this one. I don't think hearing you play it here that TC nailed their version...
@kcrknp Жыл бұрын
He never turned the gain below 5. I would expect a bit of hair with the gain half way up.
@EytschPi42 Жыл бұрын
I know... I noticed that during the editing... I never had it below 5, but that's because it never felt rich enough (loud enough?) below five... there just wasn't enough meat to the tone in that range.
@neilwarden Жыл бұрын
@@EytschPi42 Try gain at 4 to 4.5 with Volume at 10 with bright off. I managed a Nile Rodgers style clean rhythm and a Kenny Burrell tone with a HB.
@StephaneBergeronPixelyzed Жыл бұрын
@@kcrknp You're right but, I mentioned it only because when I loaded the Deluxe model (nrm) in the Helix, it's set to 4.6 gain/drive out of the box and with my Strat that was pristine clean, no hair whatsoever and it sounds full but chimey. I didn't get the impression it was not "rich" enough as Henning mentions in his comment here. The normal channel Deluxe on the Helix starts having a bit of hair at a drive level of 6. On the vibrato channel it starts earlier. I assume the pedal emulate's the amp's channels the same way (gree=normal, red=vibrato) so this behaviour at least is consistent with the amp. Never played an actual Deluxe so I don't know how the real amp behaves, just the Helix model of it.
@quiksilver78 Жыл бұрын
@@StephaneBergeronPixelyzed Stick a compressor in front and turn up the level knob to 1 or 2 o'clock
@indisguiseFUCK Жыл бұрын
Good stuff! I had the Iridium, and currently have the Dream and the Ruby, which I both love. I got the Jims 45 today and really wanted to like it, but wound up returning it. Not for me, that's all... Obviously I was interested in this one as well. Could be a great option for people who don't want to shell out on the Iridium or the Dream... or any of the other more expensive options out there. I will wait what UA has coming for a Marshall style pedal... because we all know it's going to happen, and they were quite open about it on their forum as well.
@flagace4889 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I am curious. Why didn't you keep the Iridium?
@indisguiseFUCK Жыл бұрын
@@flagace4889 Hey man. I just used the Fender-y channel of it, which was okay... all while the Vox-style channel didn't blow me away and even York IRs didn't help with that. The Dream and Ruby both sounded and felt great to me right away. So I sold the Iridium and kept both UAFX pedals.
@graemeoddy2600 Жыл бұрын
Looks great value considering it's the same price as the Catalinbread F55 I bought recently. The F55 can run on 18 v to get more headroom.
@oldcrackadated Жыл бұрын
That would be a great pedal to hook up with H&K stomp man and orange cab , I’ve had lot of fun those hooked to all kind of effects pedals
@bluemtoo Жыл бұрын
Just got this pedal yesterday and can confirm that it sounds great directly into return of FX loop of Stompman, but is rather dull and weak sounding (for some reason) plugged into regular input in bypass mode. Might have to fiddle a bit more with that.
@zaqwoodward8851 11 ай бұрын
I like the that song at the beginning. What’s that st guitar with the white pickguard and pretty exotic looking top and neck? Is that a rosewood neck?
@berndkiltz Жыл бұрын
Hammer Song!
@SergeiVlassov Жыл бұрын
I think if you crank the volume on real Deluxe to 10, you will also get significant overdrive. I suppose clean tones live at lover volume and gain levels. Correct me if I'm wrong, never owned a deluxe reverb.
@maxmustardman298 Жыл бұрын
Ive been looking for a fender style alternative for my torpedo cab m with a 70s bassman as a preamp. Doesnt get much cleaner than that. Too bad the thing broke.
@ckallaher 3 ай бұрын
Very puzzled by the lack of a sparkly Fender clean from this pedal. Maybe they should make one based on the Twin? You are fantastic, as always, Henning. I really get something useful from your reviews, not just noodling. In this case, it’s “don’t buy that pedal!” Maybe the DC30?
@-BY205 Жыл бұрын
Nice song nice sound 🎤
@GazWJ205 Жыл бұрын
I might try one of these as I need a preamp for my dark sounding tube amp. My concern is, as is surprisingly often the case, it won't sound any better than the zoom g1four currently used a fender deluxe preamp with reverb. I've bought so many pedals now, liked them initially but ended up replicating almost exactly with a tweak of the zoom and selling them on again!
@neilwarden Жыл бұрын
That's interesting about your Zoom. I just A/B'd the TC against my Zoom G6 which I consider a budget modeller. The TC has quite a captivating sound on first listen as the boingy reverb is good. Gain at 4 was a lot harsher than my Zoom and TC did not sound good with a gain pedal. I was considering using the TC at a small cabaret festival gig coming up which has a very tight turnaround. I'll take TC as backup but gonna try ZOOM G6 as I like the Jensen IR's that came as an upgrade and the send return with overdrive is very good. I may sell the TC in the future.
@GazWJ205 Жыл бұрын
@@neilwarden I think everyone should have a cheap multi-effects unit as it really helps you filter down to just the special pedals that really add something unique.
@neilwarden Жыл бұрын
@@GazWJ205 I agree. A sleeper is the ZOOM MS50G, a real Swiss army knife. I had a few boutique pedals that were never used, Univibe', Phasers, chorus etc never used them, kept my drives and tremolo.
@gregs6424 Жыл бұрын
I really wanted to hear how this unit sounds clean. Why did you have the gain up for the entire video?
@jorgesilva6454 Жыл бұрын
I've counted six (6) boxes. Are there three new ones more to come? 😊
@damasterkarej Жыл бұрын
Did I missed out an episode about this bass? Or was it not shown? Looks nice.
@EytschPi42 Жыл бұрын
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@xjanssens Жыл бұрын
I know for a fact the mini USB connection (8:36) is way more reliable than the USB C, unless you provide a separate locking mechanism, like you find on e.g. Sonnet boxes. The regulation your are talking about doesn't apply to this device and merely is valid for charging connections.
@Alfgunnarp 6 ай бұрын
Cool hearing a cover of a Norwegian band!
@Margilio5150 Жыл бұрын
00:31 My thoughts exactly, but generally speaking this looks like a great alternative to go direct
@iangkey Жыл бұрын
Love the song, damn Henning so good
@lanesuzza Жыл бұрын
Stage Dolls…..
@gonzalocastillo2804 Жыл бұрын
How about the OD into a clean setting?
@BasementGuitarSuperstar Жыл бұрын
Damn you Henning for enabling my G.A.S. Lol
@chance6666 11 ай бұрын
Pienso que hubiera sido mejor si tuviera loop de efectos, para mejorar el sonido del delay y modulaciónes, solo nos dejan ponerlos al input e irán con las saturaciónes que le podamos poner. Lo pensé en alternativa del Nux Amp Academy, pero el Nux si bien tiene un poco menos de definición en calidad, es más versatil y su calidad puede mejorar con actualizaciones.
@bogdancapitanoiu Жыл бұрын
Just saying hello & merci
@toddlee7498 7 ай бұрын
TC Electronics did firmware update in September to dramatically increase headroom so problem solved. First day with it and so far so good.
@natearchuleta2003 7 ай бұрын
Good to know, thank you.
@bartvschuylenburg Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, this takes away my doubt. Not going to buy it. Not enough clean headroom for me. I’ll buy the UAfx Dream 65. I wish they had gone for modeling one of the larger and cleaner Fender amps like the Super Reverb or the Twin Reverb. Maybe they could make an optional firmware update for people who like clean headroom.
@trueworld3857 9 ай бұрын
Yeh I need a clean pre amp that takes pedals well. Any ideas
@bartvschuylenburg 9 ай бұрын
@@trueworld3857 Take a look at Effectrode Blackbird and put an Anasounds Element spring reverb and a good power amp & speaker simulator after it.
@paulschlachter4313 Жыл бұрын
The UA Dream was only cheaper for a promo. It's 399€ for most of the year.
@quiksilver78 Жыл бұрын
Has the UA Dream ever been updated? (firmware) I know it works but is it the same product as it was when it was released on Day 1? nothing extra? an IR loader of some sort? anything?
@DodgeCityBandits Жыл бұрын
Can you run these through a real cabinet for a live show application?
@bristtto7410 Жыл бұрын
Im wondering if anyone got any experience comparing this product with Nux Academy 🤔
@waywardspirit7898 6 ай бұрын
"Man that's a tiny knob", "She said". LOL.
@quiksilver78 11 ай бұрын
Not sure if other KZfaqrs/Presenters did anything with the audio in their videos BUT I got the same results as you Henning: I can't get past 4 in the Gain Knob and 7/8 in Level Knob before it starts going into "broken/ripped speaker" mode. Very unpleasant. Not sure if I should return the pedal or wait until they release a firmware update to tame the headroom issue.
@Alfgunnarp 23 күн бұрын
I am curious, did they update the firmware to solve this problem?
@quiksilver78 23 күн бұрын
@@Alfgunnarp Early September 2023 after it was released. It could still use a few more tweaks but no updates since then, sadly. However, I have personally tried the Mooer Preamp X2 and gotta admit that this TC pedal is head and shoulders above that Mooer pedal.
@Alfgunnarp 23 күн бұрын
@@quiksilver78 Thanks for the reply. I am considering buying it, but it`s important to me that it has a good pristine clean tone.
@davelanciani-dimaensionx Жыл бұрын
Well, you do have the gain on 5, and that's where an actual Deluxe starts to break up - but I can see that you have the Level on 10 already, so once you drop the Gain, you will also lose volume, and will have to add it at the interface/board input, possibly increasing the noise floor. Yeah, that's a problem.
@neilwarden Жыл бұрын
I bought one for the purpose of having it do a clean neck pick-up Strat sound like Nile Rodgers and a Kenny Burrell jazz sound with a HB. It's not super clean at 4.5 but close enough even down to 4. I'm not getting any noise through my Audient EVO8 into Logic. I set channel 2 a little heavier on the gain, maybe 5 and it that was good for a bit of boost. I have been using a Tech 21 Blonde which DOES get me 100% clean and the Blonde sounds exceptional with a Fulltone Fulldrive in front..... all analog. The TC isn't as good with my FD. The TC isn't perfect but straight out of the tin it's pretty inspirational. I was in the market for a Princeton Tone Master but this will make do with my Headrush FRFR108. Very compact and just add my Tremolo and it's a winner. Headphone out is good too.
@Frank-72 10 ай бұрын
The tremolo function is missing
@jroobz 10 ай бұрын
Does a deluxe do that? I thought they were wayyyy cleaner
@conordyer2307 Жыл бұрын
That's great and all but 2 of these pedals and you can buy a tonex....
@cgavin1 Жыл бұрын
That's amazing for 150 dollar pounds. I'm sure the lack of headroom will be addressed in a firmware update..
@jakollee Жыл бұрын
I don’t get it, so how is this a better deal than say, the Nu-x Amp Academy?
@quiksilver78 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if anyone will compare these to a Tech21 Blonde and/or Joyo/Harley Benton American Sound
@EytschPi42 Жыл бұрын
Those really can’t compete against modelers
@quiksilver78 Жыл бұрын
@@EytschPi42 So you would consider these to be 'upgrades' per se? Some of the Tech 21 pedals (which have a very similar footprint) are going for closer to 200EUR if not over that mark.
@neilwarden Жыл бұрын
I just bought the TC Dlx. It can't get as clean as the Tech 21 Blonde. While the TC is good for the money, the OD sounds are a bit crunchy. IMO the Blonde is more versatile and takes pedals better. If the Blonde pedal had a preset and reverb it would be better than the TC. I'm sticking with the Blonde for gigs. And...... 100% analog. The TC I will keep for jamming and rehearsing.
@KyussTheWalkingWorm Жыл бұрын
Still not convinced by the value proposition from these modeling pedals with 1 or a couple amps. Aside from the Mooers because they're actually pretty cheap. In the price range between the TC and Strymon/UA stuff I'd rather get one of the nicer analog preamp pedals, and on the higher end I'd get proper modeling hardware like Helix or Fractal stuff.
@vaughnwebbermusic Жыл бұрын
The Deluxe sounds like it has an OD infront of it. Sounds good though.
@hchoe741 Жыл бұрын
Would've been perfect with an fx loop
@pierredanzas9510 Жыл бұрын
USB-C is compulsory for only certain types of devices. Pedals are not yet listed. Btw, iPhones are not yet USB-C compliant...
@ronlight7013 Жыл бұрын
Harpo Marx move at 13:50
@LilOlFunnyBoy 5 ай бұрын
If these pedals are supposed to do one thing and do it well then it's a shame they don't have more flexibility as far as inputs, outputs and IR loading etc.
@thisisme4858 Жыл бұрын
Why have a reverb switch? Use the dial like a normal amp for reverb to save that footswitch for a boost Im never gonna turn my reverb on and off its just set and forget. Thats the general consensus with musicians
@ItsaCatsLife 6 ай бұрын
The USB port isn't a 'CHARGING PORT" which the EU requirement stipulates should be USB type 'C'...
@marzbitenhaussen 10 ай бұрын
23:03 “well, technically…”
@void_snw Жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of the gainy sounds from these, mainly the texture of it. Sound wise great but they just seem.. fuzzy? very raspy. very rough. kinda like one of my fuzz / drive pedals. Considering you can get one of the budget modelers for not all that much more.. eh.
@neilwarden Жыл бұрын
The gain is horrible IMO, I just bought one. OK for the money but I'm not retiring my Tech 21 Blonde.
@cgavin1 Жыл бұрын
There's a definitely digital sound to them when pushed yes.
@neilwarden Жыл бұрын
@@cgavin1 I agree my Zoom G6 takes pedals before it better than the Combo '65. As a quick fix the TC in front of my Headrush FRFR108 with a Tremolo is pretty good for rehearsals and practice I DO like the spring reverb emulation. As said in other posts I wont be getting rid of my Tech 21 Blonde.
@christian_oz Жыл бұрын
And that's pretty much all you get... an affordable pedal. Now as far as the sound... hmmm.
@brrblack497 Жыл бұрын
Just bought the UA Dream 65, sounds pretty close at half the $, ugh.
@lowercase3635 Жыл бұрын
Reminder that one iridium is cheaper than all three of the ampworx pedals.
@oldcrackadated Жыл бұрын
Has TC ever put out anything that wasn’t good
@Guitar_Smasher Жыл бұрын
Punctuation error: The name should read '65, not 65'. Those silly Danes!
@lowercase3635 Жыл бұрын
I’m waiting for someone on KZfaq to finally do a vs video against the UA Dream/ ACS1/ Iridium but everyone is trying to get their slice of pie from TC’s sponsorship and it’s kinda sleazy.
@EytschPi42 Жыл бұрын
you're gonna eat your shorts.... that video is already filmed and will come next week. If you think this is dishonest, you really shouldn't watch.
@lowercase3635 Жыл бұрын
@@EytschPi42 dude why is your ego so fragile? 😂 I said everyone. Not just you.
@PerryCodes Жыл бұрын
What else did we get from TC eh??? Hmmmm....
@PerryCodes Жыл бұрын
"Mystery" solved... I just saw the other TC amp vids LOL
@johnnymegabyte Жыл бұрын
Nothing Fender was harmed in the making of this video.
@HEZ63 Жыл бұрын
The only great sounding Tweed Deluxe amp sound, I ever heard, was the one of Neil Young on "Rust Never Sleeps", but from this I do not hear anything here. Muddy, fuzzy bass, bad , unbalanced overdrive is all, I hear. Nothing for me!
@twelvemeister 10 ай бұрын
lot of detectable hum .. they could have modelled that out
@braxal6983 Жыл бұрын
It seems to me that the market is already saturated with amp modelers to the point it is getting ridiculous. It appears every KZfaqr has to be paid to make a video of them. Sorry it is getting old. Haha
@johnnymegabyte Жыл бұрын
BOSS FDR-1 Fender '65 Deluxe Reverb, which people tend to forget ever existed, sounds better than this IMHO. I like TC stuff. I have UA Ruby + Two Notes ReVolt Guitar, covering my legendary amps tones needs. TONEX is on the horizon for later in the year
@Blues.Fusion Жыл бұрын
American Sound clone.
@EytschPi42 Жыл бұрын
Really not
@duppykitoon 10 ай бұрын
You say that it doesn't do clean, but not once during your video do you have the gain knob set below 5. It seems to me if you brought the drive knob down to 2 or 3, you would get a cleaner sound.
@EytschPi42 10 ай бұрын
Cleaner yes, it also considerably thinner and quieter… it Just didn’t sound good there. They updated the firmware now so it has more headroom
@Alfgunnarp 23 күн бұрын
@@EytschPi42 How does it sound after the update?
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